The Syndicate

Johanna wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:27 pm I think the last couple pages are out of a Shakespeare play.
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Much Ado About Nothing

As Ya'll Like It

I'm ready to hammer. I don't think we're gonna accomplish anything else today.

I'm not very inspired by SoA's presence today. He starts off by trying to argue with JJJ's solve as a ludicrous approach, but didn't give us anything to work with outside of JJJ's solve. He did try to discredit JJJ and Sloonei, but Sloonei is confirmed town at this point and JJJ is Sloonei.

Outside of that, SoA voted Dolby as the counterwagon. Fine. SoA also pointed a finger at falcon. K.

Did he voice any other suspicions that I missed?

I'm glad we cleared that up.

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:14 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:12 pm juliets tells me that "ya'll" is the correct spelling, but every device I have tried to autocorrect it to "y'all".
You all
You all
Y’all

That's what I been saying!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:15 pm I think the key is in the pronunciation, and perhaps even the geography.

The Kentucky y'all is definitely "y'all". It abbreviates a sort of "ye all" instead of "you all". Maybe Alabama does it differently.

"ye all" sounds like a Medieval attempt of this pronoun

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:13 am Like... I don't get why you guys are going for me specifically is the thing and I'm worried it might be scum motivated. I even saw Jimmy askin' for an early hammer just now once Sloonei returned.

Tbh, I've talked about you and tried to ping you with questions since the start of Day 2, and haven't heard any responses to them, so what's a marmot to do?

I distanced myself from the thread for a bit, and it felt wundervoll

juliets tells me that "ya'll" is the correct spelling, but every device I have tried to autocorrect it to "y'all".

Good morning ya'll

(Oh, add TSP to the TR pool, I forgot that one)

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:54 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:32 pm General question for whoever wants to brave it:

If someone in the consensus POE is eliminated today and happens to flip town, is there any way in hell that both Dyslexicon and ilario are town-aligned?
I think no? I dunno. I think if the POE is that wrong, we'd see more pushing from them against players not in the POE. Instead, we have consensus TRs in myself, NAA, Dizzy, Jo, and I believe irelio too. You're like the one exception, being a player not in the consensus POE, but still drawing suspicious.

Like if you're town and POE'd right now, you have a unique perspective on the rest of the game knowing that we're all wrong about you, and had the ability to convince us that the POE is wrong and we should look elsewhere. Since the entire POE is only pointing at JJJ outside of themselves, I think the POE is right.

Maybe I'm projecting too much what other people think of the game, but I'm running errands right now so not really doing my research very well

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:32 pm General question for whoever wants to brave it:

If someone in the consensus POE is eliminated today and happens to flip town, is there any way in hell that both Dyslexicon and ilario are town-aligned?

I think no? I dunno. I think if the POE is that wrong, we'd see more pushing from them against players not in the POE. Instead, we have consensus TRs in myself, NAA, Dizzy, Jo, and I believe irelio too. You're like the one exception, being a player not in the consensus POE, but still drawing suspicious.

Like if you're town and POE'd right now, you have a unique perspective on the rest of the game knowing that we're all wrong about you, and had the ability to convince us that the POE is wrong and we should look elsewhere. Since the entire POE is only pointing at JJJ outside of themselves, I think the POE is right.

G-Man probably plays a mean game of scrabble though

I clipped my own post.

I meant to say "I'll just keep doing that until I am challenged"

I feel like I'm on auto-pilot right now, but everyone's telling me that's ok and not really challenging my view of the game, so I'll just keep doing that until.

Thoughts on that feeling Jay? How do you feel about the gamestate?

It's not your fault Jay, it's NAA's for not herding us well enough.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:02 pm 2) Baddies know that the longer they keep Jay in the game, the more suspicious his status becomes.

I know this is an argument that is often made, but I don't think the risk of leaving alive to hunt down the mafia is worth the tinfoil that may come from keeping him around.

Also, there are so many strong players in this game that are probably civilian, it's not all that surprising that JJJ is still alive.

Johanna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:30 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:23 pm I'm at I don't care who we chop as long as they flip mafia wowee
Wow, how did we not think of that before???

Step 1: coffee

Step 2: pants

Step 3: let's just vote JJJ off today so we can be sure that mafia can't poison the whole triad.

Then again, I suspected Sloonei at various points Day 1 and 2, and didn't have much trouble at all townreading JJJ.

You both are definitely different people, which I appreciate.

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:58 pm JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
I have always wanted to catch JJJ as a baddie. I don't believe that I ever have. With only a few games left in my tank, I don't know how many more times our paths will cross. All this notwithstanding, JJJ is the part of the dynamic duo that I am more concerned about. There were a few posts that did not feel like the Jay I remember. It's not difficult for me to read him as supa-towning this thing hard out of the gate like this to maximize the baddies numbers advantage and put this thing to bed neatly and quickly.

SLOONEI
RIght now, he's toeing the line of standard-issue Sloonei. He started out less solvey, but it seems to be increasing. I wasn't a fan of his philosophy of building a POE based on who can be townread the least. He's not the only one who has espoused that line of thought though. Projecting town isn't all that hard in my limited experience. Overall, he feels like a slightly different model Sloonei, but nothing that requires a recall.

Here are the explanations for his reads on the two of you @JaggedJimmyJay. Tbh, the read on you isn't very compelling. I see things like "I've always wanted to catch JJJ as mafia" and "JJJ is certainly capable of supa-towning and wrapping this game up quickly and neatly", and wonder what the conviction that brought him to that conclusion is. Easy tinfoil, but nothing convincing.

The Sloonei read is kinda similar too. In both cases, he makes a comment along the lines of "This player is different than I remember".

It is very curious that one of you ended up POE'd while the other was townread.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:23 pm Maybe dumb read, but Dolby seemed the most bothered about "the triad" and even dubbed it as so. And then spf and Sloonei is poisoned. MANY CONVENE MUCH SUSPICIOUS
This actually moves me a bit, so I don't think it's dumb. I can also note that Dolby has chosen me (quite specifically me, while still strongly town reading Sloonei) as the member of the triad to tinfoil.

Here I am, alive and unpoisoned.

Dolby isn't the only one. Falcon is currently voting for you. You developed a wagon yesterday (even if it was never serious). G-Man put you in his POE, while Sloonei was a TR.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:13 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:10 pm Here's every player sorted by post count on Day 3

Dyslexicon - 113
JaggedJimmyJay - 106
Marmot - 68
NotAnAxehole - 48
TonyStarkPrime - 43
Johanna - 36
falcon45ca - 17
ilario - 13
G-Man - 9
Son of Anarch - 9
Dolby - 0

PoE is still at the bottom
Why you shading people based on post count, you should always kill the players who are least likely to be mafia due to the fact that they are dissociated from their partners by heavy posting.

I thought about shading people based on how seriously they take their coffee, but realized I'd have to eliminate myself first.

Dizzy actually reminds me of dunya from Congress of Vienna Mafia, and in that situation ilario is me. A lot of players wanted to yeet me, but obv-town dunya white-knighted me from all such attempts after we found each other in that game.

Here's every player sorted by post count on Day 3

Dyslexicon - 113
JaggedJimmyJay - 106
Marmot - 68
NotAnAxehole - 48
TonyStarkPrime - 43
Johanna - 36
falcon45ca - 17
ilario - 13
G-Man - 9
Son of Anarch - 9
Dolby - 0

PoE is still at the bottom

I just want them all to come convince me why my order is wrong at the very least.

Or that the scum team is something else.

Or something. Anything.

vanity wagons for vanity players \o/

[VOTE: Son of Anarch] aubergine

I want to have my vote somewhere, but it's too early to put Dolby at Y-1 imo.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:52 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pm which I guess isn't necessarily fair.
I don't understand this concept of "fair". Mafia is a single player game.
I believe it's only single-player for the SK, which I suppose Dizzy did claim.
You don't consider Skyrim to be multiplayer too do you? Just because NPCs are present, doesn't mean it's a multiplayer game.

Are you an NPC?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:41 pm which I guess isn't necessarily fair.
I don't understand this concept of "fair". Mafia is a single player game.

I believe it's only single-player for the SK, which I suppose Dizzy did claim.

G-Man could be mafia though. With Lime Coke flipping town, G-Man's efforts to tie falcon and Lime Coke together on Day 2 seem premeditated.

Also, I guess G-Man was playing Scrabble at the time so there is a bit of an excuse, but I found his reaction to Dizzy's claim that he targeted spf Night 1 to be extremely slow and cautious.

I don't know if I'm ready to call G-Man scum yet. I think he was put in an unfair position to work out of given his inability to participate at all Day 1, and his presumably limited time to contribute since.

That said, I'd prefer a yeet of Son of Anarch, Dolby, or falcon, not necessarily in that order. I think they all have a lot more working against them based on their own behavior.

(but yeah, we were lizzymarm, Dunia has a cat name lizzy and I am a marm)

Dizzy, have you relooked at ilario yet? I know you mentioned you would at some point.

Johanna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:32 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:32 pm
Johanna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:23 pm I think Marmot was in Stardew Hydra and I'm pretty sure that's it with regards to playing with other people still alive and posting. Other than Dolby. I don't want to think he's a woof.

Who were you in that hydra again? I forget.

I've pseudo blocked that game from my memory given how poorly we were stomped.
Horde Scum. Were you with Dunia?

No, I definitely didn't play that game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:23 pm Or maybe I'm just thinking too hard about things that can really go both ways

Johanna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:23 pm I think Marmot was in Stardew Hydra and I'm pretty sure that's it with regards to playing with other people still alive and posting. Other than Dolby. I don't want to think he's a woof.

Who were you in that hydra again? I forget.

I've pseudo blocked that game from my memory given how poorly we were stomped.

There's some pretty vote records for anyone interested.

Could it really be possible to have a PoE of falcon, G-Man, Dolby, SoA, and Johanna? That literally means that none of the PoE touched the main wagon of Lime Coke.

It's kinda unfortunate that the two people who died EOD2 didn't vote at all. Well, Lime Coke voted earlier in the day, but eventually sheeped spf's no vote

Day 1 Votes

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Day 2 Votes

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Another observation. If there are any more cc's to be made, this is the last day they can reasonably be believed imo. If we missyeet today, we're left with zero room for error, and the last thing we'd need is a 50/50 between two roleclaims.

I believe we're at Sloonei and TSP as our PRs.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:31 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:28 pm I think the best piece of evidence I can give to clear myself is that if I was mafia I would just poison myself so I don’t have to read NAAs posts anymore
What?

Do you think he's Maf or Town?
I think He’s town which is why I’m looking for that sweet poison to put me out of my misery

Is it because you're in it? Maybe I've missed it, but this sort of posting completely doesn't jive with what I've seen from you throughout this game

(also I selfishly don't want you posioned cuz you're a fun chap)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:12 pm I very rarely play with this ties rule, so I’m open to theory. I believe it’s more common on 451.

I used it in Bread Mafia to give mafia a bit of an edge since I believed they were otherwise at a disadvantage on setup/numbers.

I think it's a reasonable way to rebalance a game, and to encourage players to not play for or allow ties, which I dislike.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:08 pm By the way, you're all wrong about ties, this is exactly one type of situation where ties can be useful to town because mafia decides ties. So you can theoretically validate 2 slots at once.

How so?

The way I see it, if one player is selected in a tie, we have no idea if the other is wolf or town. Mafia has a distinct advantage in the case of a tie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 am Being a consensus townread is unfamiliar territory. Should I change how I dress or something
Who needs clothes

Naked mafia here we goooooo.

Too bad Good thing this isn't video mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:18 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:17 am Being a consensus townread is unfamiliar territory. Should I change how I dress or something
Do you agree on the game state at least?

Almost. I'd replace ilario with g-man in my list.

That said, a poe of 4 right now doesn't feel right, especially after Lime Coke was a miss yesterday. It feels too easy. Like, if ilario, Dizzy, JJJ and myself are all town, how did we collectively get sig, and then that one wrong?

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Being a consensus townread is unfamiliar territory. Should I change how I dress or something

Wow, I still haven't gotten out of bed yet!

I'mma go make some sex, be back later

Can someone write a musical number explaining the use and benefits of PoE, with like people dropping dead all over the stage and everything

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