The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 pm I guess I was killed because I had Urist as my top scumread?
PR read i believe
^this. We were guessing there was a town version of the same PR that HK was, and when you asked if anyone had been in contact with Dunya, it kind of tipped us off.

I didn't understand the role at all, lol. Would it have been useful? Do I just find out who has extra powers from dunya or something?

I guess I was killed because I had Urist as my top scumread?

"Also," LC added as casually as he was able, "Any chance any of you... sold your soul or anything?"

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:41 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:44 pm I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions
Don’t expect people to answer questions.
I tried it doesn’t always work.
Like 50%.

Did I miss any questions for me? Lay 'em on me. I'm the Taskmaster.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:17 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:59 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:44 pm I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:04 pmSince what moment?

Just for answering tu urist that his "push" on me is weird o there is something else?
Well, it was around that time that I felt your posts were quite towny. Here and here.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:18 pm That's a legit night target, respectable.
Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.
1) I was comfortable because I suspected you for your earlier reaction to falcon and a wolfy post or two that I didn't like.

2) I might have changed my vote if I had been around and posting at EoD. Probably would have, since it wasn't doing any good on you. I'd rather vote for one of the top two candidates and hope to get it right so I look good.

3) Not really. I put some reads out there so I guess, but none of them are "core", just players I townread more than others.
Humm your here and here are pretty near in time, i've been townreaded by a lot of players d1, nothing in that day makes u think that?

1) what is bad in my react to falcon? Can u point that post u didnt like?

2) why u were scumreading marmot? And why u were scumreading hk? To think that u pro will vote for them?

3) well there is one more question, its weird as fuck this point. You are not behind your scumreads, you are not trying to do a core, then what are you aiming for this game?

1) Yeah, this post and the general progression leading up to it, I discussed it back then.

2) I wasn't, I skipped a bunch of pages when I fell behind, which is why I didn't try to get involved in the last half hour of the Day. If I had been present and playing I would have put my vote on one of them simply to take a stand, and I would have done whatever reading I could in whatever time I had in order to inform my decision.

3) I am aiming for deciding who I think is scummy, voting for them, and hoping I'm right.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:44 pm I think Alison is town

Hey, i remember that i asked you some questions

Samusamu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:04 pmSince what moment?

Just for answering tu urist that his "push" on me is weird o there is something else?

Well, it was around that time that I felt your posts were quite towny. Here and here.

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:18 pm That's a legit night target, respectable.
Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.

1) I was comfortable because I suspected you for your earlier reaction to falcon and a wolfy post or two that I didn't like.

2) I might have changed my vote if I had been around and posting at EoD. Probably would have, since it wasn't doing any good on you. I'd rather vote for one of the top two candidates and hope to get it right so I look good.

3) Not really. I put some reads out there so I guess, but none of them are "core", just players I townread more than others.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:36 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:32 pm @bestmafiaplayer, did you miss this post? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 39#p769527

It's a bad look for Urist with respect to HK, and not great for Sloonei if he chose not to include it in his wall.
That is a post by Urist. I have only ISO’d hollowkatt.

Ok, that's fair. I thought you had gathered interactions both ways.

@bestmafiaplayer, did you miss this post? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 39#p769527

It's a bad look for Urist with respect to HK, and not great for Sloonei if he chose not to include it in his wall.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:44 pm I think Alison is town

@Sloonei did your HK interactions contain this post??

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:07 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:15 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:09 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:16 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:51 pm If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game
Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?
I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.
tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.
You "want" to wolf read her? Are you wolf reading her, or no?
I can't speak for hollowkatt but it seems pretty clear from his posts that he is scumreading her.
This just looks like an attempt to throw shade at hk.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:20 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:13 pmAlison town
Care to explain your thoughts on this and DoO?
Alison would care more as mafia

Maybe she's mafia that ended up caring enough.

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:25 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine
Marmot TR’ed Urist even up to his own yeet.
Despite Urist SRing Marmot.
Not saying it clears Urist but it is a sign that Urist can easily be Town.

I’d suggest a Falcon vote.

@Sloonei
Would you be willing to vote Falcon with me?
IMO I think Falcon/Esooa are never W/W so if Falcon flips Scum then we can almost clear Esooa.

I guess, it's not like Marmot had any info, or infallible skills.

One thing I noticed in Urist's ISO is when Samu asked him for a game link, he provided one, and Samu didn't ever seem to look at it, he looked at yours and then was upset he thought it was Urist's and that's it. Which makes Samu look worse and Urist look better.

[VOTE: urist] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:53 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:58 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:53 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:38 pm Barring any major developments, it makes the most sense to solve Esooa's slot.
I still don't understand this. Why do we have to flip esooa? I'm aware that she voted for Marmot yesterday but she's not the only one who did that.
Go thru HK's ISO. Esooa pops up like 30 times, far more than any other player. They just reek of scum buds, look for yourself
soooo about this then
Well even outside of name pop ups, their interactions just look wolfy to me. Have you looked at them? What do you think?
Ima butt in.
I think that there very end EoD reactions isn’t something I’d expect a partner to do.
I also think your pushing for this way too much then you should be.

You might be right.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:23 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:47 pm Esooa is where my vote would be if the deadline was right now. But the deadline isn’t for like 30 hours, so I’m on Long Con because he should be talked about too, according to the small portion of the game I’ve looked at.
Which portion of the game did you look at to lead you to pick out LC here?
Looks like Hollowkatt was defending me, the jerk.
Ah, it does look like HK didn't want to switch to you even though Samu was pushing for it. What is your read on Samu?

Samu looks better to me now, I think he's town.

Um... I was calling HK a jerk there, not myself. It can be read two ways.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:47 pm Esooa is where my vote would be if the deadline was right now. But the deadline isn’t for like 30 hours, so I’m on Long Con because he should be talked about too, according to the small portion of the game I’ve looked at.
Which portion of the game did you look at to lead you to pick out LC here?

Looks like Hollowkatt was defending me, the jerk.

Falcon's reaction to suspicion felt towny as well.

This is pretty much reactions to catching up the last five pages.

I laughed out loud when Gavial was like "I just want to work together and be productive. Just one thing: DO THE TASK!"

like omg

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:18 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:34 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:28 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:22 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:21 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:14 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:50 pm
LC been sitting and comfy on their vote.
Are you saying LC is the howling wolf?
Prob, also want to know how other see that wagon
I have zero thoughts or opinions on LC
Okey, u want to share something else?
Sure, there's a wolf on my wagon.
I also think esooa/gavial/marmot/falcon/samu aren't wolves.
leaning town on DoO. Dunno on Alison/Bo/TSP/Urist/LC
also, who tf is JessieKruger?
Thinking not Doom based on HK iso

One wolf in each list sounds pretty good to me.

Gavial-Doom is probably town vs town.

I liked Samu's push on Urist for trying to take Samu down over his EoD voting. I think Urist could be scum here.

I think Esooa is town. Sloonei is Alison? I would yeet that slot, I thought Alison was sketchy.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you a scumbag??

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:04 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:18 pm That's a legit night target, respectable.
Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.
I just wasn't really online yesterday mostly... I checked back in a half our before the elimination and saw hollowkatt with 4 votes, and everyone else had 1. Looked like things were under control to me, so I didn't force any posts.
Okey, but now u can weight in that questions take your time but do it please.

Good night to everybody

Ok, I will. Good night!

Samusamu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:02 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:18 pm That's a legit night target, respectable.
Hey u, i still think that u can be scum furthermore knowing the.state of the votes in the eod in hk.

Please, respond the follow questions:

1) why your vote was confortable in.me last day?

2) without knowing the result it is prob that u can change your vote last eod?

3) do u have a core? Who and why?

And weight in what happen during the eod.

I just wasn't really online yesterday mostly... I checked back in a half our before the elimination and saw hollowkatt with 4 votes, and everyone else had 1. Looked like things were under control to me, so I didn't force any posts.

That's a legit night target, respectable.

I mean.. I "can see it", as in it's not beyond my ability to imagine by any means.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:26 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:25 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:19 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:58 am Well, caught up. Crazy thread, tight as a tourniquet in here. I am still comfortable with a vote on Samu, and I'm going to lay my chips down on Alison being his teammate. Not for her activity level or meta, because I get that she is out there, fighting the good mafia fight, on several battlefields. I don't buy her defense of Samu, it was just a little too pointed, it hinted at intent to me. As much as I loved the Tarot card opening, it's NAI unless I picture he satisfaction of easing into a game with a fun purpose, as a wolf. I like it better as a wolf tactic, and maybe I want to believe that a little more than is ideal.

I don't know DoOM that well, but I'll just put it out there and call her town. I don't specifically know her wolf range though.
Meta based or?
Yeah, I can see her posts as town DoOM.
But can you also see them as scum?

No, I'm saying I do not think she is scum, and I do think she is town.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:19 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:58 am Well, caught up. Crazy thread, tight as a tourniquet in here. I am still comfortable with a vote on Samu, and I'm going to lay my chips down on Alison being his teammate. Not for her activity level or meta, because I get that she is out there, fighting the good mafia fight, on several battlefields. I don't buy her defense of Samu, it was just a little too pointed, it hinted at intent to me. As much as I loved the Tarot card opening, it's NAI unless I picture he satisfaction of easing into a game with a fun purpose, as a wolf. I like it better as a wolf tactic, and maybe I want to believe that a little more than is ideal.

I don't know DoOM that well, but I'll just put it out there and call her town. I don't specifically know her wolf range though.
Meta based or?

Yeah, I can see her posts as town DoOM.

Well, caught up. Crazy thread, tight as a tourniquet in here. I am still comfortable with a vote on Samu, and I'm going to lay my chips down on Alison being his teammate. Not for her activity level or meta, because I get that she is out there, fighting the good mafia fight, on several battlefields. I don't buy her defense of Samu, it was just a little too pointed, it hinted at intent to me. As much as I loved the Tarot card opening, it's NAI unless I picture he satisfaction of easing into a game with a fun purpose, as a wolf. I like it better as a wolf tactic, and maybe I want to believe that a little more than is ideal.

I don't know DoOM that well, but I'll just put it out there and call her town. I don't specifically know her wolf range though.

Hey Gavial, what does 'PL' stand for?

But major interactions happen all the time when it's not two scum performing theatre.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:53 am I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

How what works again?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:53 am I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

How what works again?

King Croc

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:40 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:40 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:36 am As of right now the only scum team that would be to the extent of LolCatting would be Falcon/Samu/Alison/BK
Which I really don’t wanna believe is the case here.
I'm not ready for anything like that.
I would honestly be disappointed in that.

*deep breath*

*close eyes*

Ok, let's do it. [VOTE: everyone] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:36 am As of right now the only scum team that would be to the extent of LolCatting would be Falcon/Samu/Alison/BK
Which I really don’t wanna believe is the case here.

I'm not ready for anything like that.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:35 pm Gavial is doing way too much right now. extreme wolf vibes

I do not feel extreme wolf vibes from Gavial.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:20 pm Urist looks pretty oppurtunistuc pouncing on Samu's and my interaction, calls us a w/w team before announcing he won't be back for awhile.

How do others see that?

I thought that was arbitrary.

AND I guess I have to reread, because I thought those other guys were going after falcon and no one had the same POV I did on it, and now you're saying that I'm jumping on the Samu train or something.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:38 pm Oh, what a coincidence, LC wants to join the club too.

You think I'm a wolf because I think Samu is suspect?
Not necessarily, but you're someone that deserves scrutiny. What don't you like about Samu's explanation exactly?

I tried to explain it in the post I identified it, I was hoping that would answer such questions. I don't buy the evolution of the seeming joke vote blossoming into a big Gotcha that I don't agree with in the first place, and I don't like that he walked it back and asked the thread for falcon meta.

I intended to convey that Samu was trying to sound reasonable, not that I thought it was reasonable.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:38 pm Oh, what a coincidence, LC wants to join the club too.

You think I'm a wolf because I think Samu is suspect?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:00 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:12 pm The other 6 Princes of Hell are Satan, Lucifer, Leviathon, Mammon, Belphegor & Asmodeus
Did you get that from your scum chat?

No, I recently watched Constantine and then went deep into Wiki on some demonology stuff.

We talkin' Keanu Reeves or Matt Ryan?

Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:40 pm

Why isn't it serious? You know something I don't?
He voted you off a tarot card, and you are being very defensive about it.
Hi, flame-fanner. That's what qualifies as "very defensive" these days? Looks casual af to me.
If you say so... Falcon looks mighty uncomfortable given the context in that exchange if you ask me though.
Well if you believe that, then by all means pursue it. How do you read Samusamu's follow up? Can you understand what he's trying to say?
I could be wrong, but I think he is saying his vote was a reaction test and that you didn't react well, which I agree with.
More than a reaction is a shit test, there is not a good or bad reaction or response to that per se, but i can make reads from that. The result is far to say, falcon is scum, but is something that i really dont like and i will take it in consideration in the progression of falcon's game, cause i dont know falcon and i dont know if it is something normal in his game approach (if anybody know it, it will help me).

So i wanna conclude this topic.

Know there are other interesting things

I don't like this post, this explanation, and most of all, this backstep into a *very reasonable* callout for helpful meta on this strange person you've encountered.

[VOTE: samusamu] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:40 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:31 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:01 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:59 pm
Yup, what do u think of that?
I don't think you believe it
I dont "believe" what?
I don't think you believe I'm scum.
I don't like Falcon's responses to a clearly non-serious vote.
Why isn't it serious? You know something I don't?
He voted you off a tarot card, and you are being very defensive about it.

Hi, flame-fanner. That's what qualifies as "very defensive" these days? Looks casual af to me.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:08 pmChariot... this seems to imply an uninformed flavor, encouraging you to use your intuition to find the scum. It fits well with your town playstyle. I think this is a good town indicator for LC.

This looks like just my style. Go with the gut, take my time. Perfect.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm I have decided that I will make all my reads this game with a tarot deck. Who wants to go first?

me me me me me

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:50 pm Taking a deal from dunia is almost certainly a bad idea. She sounds like a Gambit Demon.

I know, I'm already salivating.

@dunya, I've come to bargain.

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