The Syndicate

Sorry, that should read when I'm bad, not when I'm dead. I'm voice to texting in between rounds.

Sorry I haven't been around, I'm playing in a magic card tournament tonight I will say that I tend to bus my teammates soon as possible when I'm dead, and that's it's not something that has happened this game at all.

I'm going to vote for Mac. He'll probably vote for me in return, but whatcha gonna do? [VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:06 pm Quin was a “semi-limited doctor”. It’s possible town has two “semi-limited doctors” who add up to one regular doctor.

Tony’s role came with the same sort of qualifier too, if I remember correctly. So who knows

Yeah, I remember reading Tony's role and not quite getting it. I forget what it said now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:18 am Sig, Michelle, LC. And Mac. And Wilgy for not voting at all.

Calling it now, the scum are in there.

I didn't get any bad vibes from the people I interacted with last night. It felt like a group of covs trying to clean the shit left by the rest.
Weak. Probs all townies.
Mac is scum.
How is this post from scum TSP? Lile for a team mate?
Easy distancing points
Some player salad from DDL in there, with extra croutons.
I think that was supposed to be a POE list.

"Calling it now, the scum are in there." I think that's the regular salad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:18 am Sig, Michelle, LC. And Mac. And Wilgy for not voting at all.

Calling it now, the scum are in there.

I didn't get any bad vibes from the people I interacted with last night. It felt like a group of covs trying to clean the shit left by the rest.
Weak. Probs all townies.
Mac is scum.
How is this post from scum TSP? Lile for a team mate?
Easy distancing points

Some player salad from DDL in there, with extra croutons.

Or a vest and a roleblock

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:39 pm It’s Day 6 and we’ve only had 3 nightkills. The first one was a doctor.

Maybe a roleblocker is allowed to double-target?

That's not a strategy I would ever employ.

No I am not.

Maybe sig is the baddie. Looking over his ISO from around the start of Day 3, he states suspicion of Wilgy, Mac, Michelle, and Tony, focusing mostly on Michelle. Actually, the only thing he said about Tony was

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:58 pm Also re Dom, I want to bitch since I liked the TSP lynch.

which pings me. Like he wants to make sure, after the fact, that everyone knew he was voting for Tony.

There's

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:07 pm linki: Inactive getting replaced was one thing I disliked about Michelle as well, back in the old days before TS the first person to sub in was almost always mafia, now that doesn't hold true for here, but it has stuck with me.

I have, more than once, gotten away with sketchy behaviour as a baddie, through me or (even better) someone else invoking "That's how it was in the old days". sig is using it to dial back the Michelle suspicion, so I don't really know how sketchy it is. I could see a baddie trying to generate content for themselves, or it's real reconsideration.

Night 3, sig completely disappears. No posts from Wednesday to Saturday. This is the last night that we had a kill... if he were gone night 4 and/or 5, then absence might be suspicious. Either way, Tony could have sent in the Night 3 kill, so meh.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:41 pmSo everyone's thoughts on TSP? He's an active voice not put of the core four and he hasn't seemed to have gotten much in the way of suspicion?

This is pretty nice to see, if the timing is legit.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 pm Vote: Sloonei while I think
Why Sloonie over DDL?

This isn't so great... a light, generic question, and sig doesn't seem to even hang around for the response. His next post is after the lynch is done:

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:06 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:04 pm I kinda wanna lynch DDL/Sloonie both now.
We should lynch neither of us!
I get saving yourself, but at the same time forcing a no lynch? I'm not a fan of that at all especially given our gamestate.

Not looking at Tony, just DDL and Sloonei, even though all three were around at the end.

But then

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:28 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:54 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:09 pm I also really really don't like that TSP was around and let it stay tied.
That is wrong, by the way. TSP broke the tie. Sloon tied it again to save himself. The poll closed less than 30 sec after that so nobody was able to "let" anything about it.
My mistake

sig looks really good again, realizing and coming after Tony! DDL gets points here for honesty, since he's one of the other two who are receiving sig's ire.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:15 pm I'm still feeling Sloonie/DDL could both be mafia honestly.

And in the end, he's the one outlier not voting Tony. Voting for Sloonei.

I say sig is Civ.

I think that makes three times that someone has claimed they wrote a great post but it got lost.

Very nice! Great to still see you around, Mr Sloon. I was afraid it would go quiet after tonight.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:18 am He'll I'm just trying to play a game in chill mode. I enjoy it. Don't force me to be normal Mac. He sucks.
That's the thing though, you are the low activity version of normal mac, who had all the attitude but none of the game-awareness to back it up.

That said, you have a point that I'm probably wasting time arguing with you. I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all.
So, Mac is a Civilian in your eyes?
Not sure.

Just that "I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all." doesn't really make sense if you are considering he could be bad, only if you know he's Civ.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:17 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:09 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:08 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:03 pm By the way, civilians lost that game.

The toxic environment created by the hot potato "winners" wasn't worth the trouble.
Uhm, I'm just challenging you on your thoughts about the lynch, dude. Like... I'm not being toxic? Wtf is this?
Dys is being extremely unpleasant about the "everyone confirmed town" thing and Sloon is being kind of annoying too.

There is also a witch hunt going on against people who do not agree you 3 are confirmed scum.
Luffy was mad the town core was good? Then two of them died and he pocketed Sloonei.

Yeah ok I'm just gonna stop here. Dudes scum. Figure it out. See you tomorrow.

I agree with the statements herein.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:18 am He'll I'm just trying to play a game in chill mode. I enjoy it. Don't force me to be normal Mac. He sucks.
That's the thing though, you are the low activity version of normal mac, who had all the attitude but none of the game-awareness to back it up.

That said, you have a point that I'm probably wasting time arguing with you. I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all.

So, Mac is a Civilian in your eyes?

Hope you have that vest bro.

CFD Long Con?

Looks like the Tony-Toni-Tone's have it. [VOTE: LoveYou3000] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:37 pm That said, no one besides Tony has actually responded to my case against Tony.

I responded a little, and I think there are a few people voting for Tony as well. That's not a bad response.

This is some dense stuff and I have truly only read some of it. So I can only comment on thoughts about those parts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:12 pmThe crux of my argument is that point at the end: Tony and I were the two most active players in the thread on Day 4, at least in the early portion of the phase. He claims, here and at the end of Day 4, that I was his top suspect and that this was articulated early in the day. But both as I was interacting with him in real time AND as I look back on his activity now, I do not sense that he was putting any pressure on me or that he was in any way truly skeptical about me. His vote and his claims that he challenged me on things are not supported by his activity.

Saying he challenged you on things when he didn't is not the best thing to do. Tony?

I do think that "putting pressure" on someone is more likely to manifest when that person seems to be skating by. An attempt to deepen their involvement. If the two of you were the most active players, why would you need pressure applied?

Everyone's content to watch the Tony-Sloonei show.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:14 pm So here's my thought, with the number of players and everyone being at least kind off active last phase I don't see mafia not putting in a kill.

So if we think a block occurred whom would be the most likely person blocked?

This starts to get very guessy and I don't tend to do that so I'd rather avoid it.

I would expect some strong leadership from the blocker if that were the case.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:28 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:26 pm And before anyone asks I know there could be more than 3 mafia total but in this setup it's very unlikely and probably too scumsided.
DDL Sloonei TSP scum team battle royale

Jokes on you - it's Michelle Long Con Epignosis for the win.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:31 am I have it on good authority that Epignosis may be intoxicated.

me too

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:19 am...relatable arguments for points.

I think I meant "relatable arguments with points" maybe? I don't have a point system working here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:47 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:43 am The thing is, I agreed with DDL's assessment of Tony last phase. I went to Tony's ISO to disprove DDL's read that Tony was one of the more solvey players, but it ended up with me agreeing.

Why is it Tony now, Sloon? Suddenly it's a Tony-or-Sloonei thing on the table, and I don't know if that's the right thing.
I’ll explain later. I don’t have energy right now. It has something to do with the way he approached the previous phase, but it is not limited to that.

I’ll link to another Tony scum game as a way of suggesting that “looking solvey” does not clear him of anything.

We have 48 hours, get some rest!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:50 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:47 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:43 am The thing is, I agreed with DDL's assessment of Tony last phase. I went to Tony's ISO to disprove DDL's read that Tony was one of the more solvey players, but it ended up with me agreeing.

Why is it Tony now, Sloon? Suddenly it's a Tony-or-Sloonei thing on the table, and I don't know if that's the right thing.
I’ll explain later. I don’t have energy right now. It has something to do with the way he approached the previous phase, but it is not limited to that.

I’ll link to another Tony scum game as a way of suggesting that “looking solvey” does not clear him of anything.
HORSE

Spoiler: show
SHIT

Yeah, but why? I'm all good with classic friendly Epi condescending thunderous judgments, but at this point in the game I'd really prefer to hear more relatable arguments for points. The "HORSESHIT" argument is going in my ears, but it isn't reaching my brain.

The thing is, I agreed with DDL's assessment of Tony last phase. I went to Tony's ISO to disprove DDL's read that Tony was one of the more solvey players, but it ended up with me agreeing.

Why is it Tony now, Sloon? Suddenly it's a Tony-or-Sloonei thing on the table, and I don't know if that's the right thing.

If I were scum, I'd kill him to implicate you, Tony.

LOL couldn't hold on till dawn, eh Sloon?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:45 pmI’ll wait.

This is a dawn proclamation, then.

I was working for the last few hours of the lynch. I had to place a vote and leave, it's not easy for me to Mafia while working. I can go to a bathroom and quickly check in, but I can't interact and play to any real degree.

Linki: Sloonei, you have the floor.

Wow, I don't know if I have ever been in a lynch that voted No Lynch in such a way. Like, I think I MIGHT have seen a No Lynch due to some MYLO/LYLO situation that I might have understood. Not like this. I was at work while it was happening. I'm taken aback.

I will also [VOTE: DDL] aubergine.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 amMichelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.
She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.

I think that was "responding to you guys" and I don't know where the rest of the word went.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:50 am Besides that

TSP looks all game-solvey and I don't wanna lynch him.

Agreed, I had a look at his ISO and it is strong.

Mac is barely playing tbh he's just doing the more abridged version of Mac Attack due to probabvly not having read everything. Scum or just inactive townie coasting, pick one. We should lynch him eventually maybe.

I tend to agree, but I'm more in the camp "he will show us more before LYLO" than "lynch him eventually maybe".

Michelle feels game-solvey too. But I don't like the fact she spent the last EoD focusing on my voteless suspicions against her instead of the lynch poll. If nova flipped bad I'd clear Michelle for that, but nova flipped a civ so what we have left is some very succesful coasting by her if she's scum.

She's got some solvacious things going on there. I'm getting a 'possible teammate' vibe from you and Tony, with you both engaging her in suspicion around that time. I don't blame her so much for ding to you guys.

Lynching WIlgy is so 2017...

I had you pegged as a man who appreciates the classics...

Epi is meh. Activity is fine, whatever, but he's lacking more bickering and suttorness that I've come to know and love from Epi. That said the availableness argument still kind of excuses that. And today he did the Sloon thing which looks more like classic Epi.

Why do you bring up "the Sloon thing" and not "the Dom thing"?

Sig looked pretty legit N1 then vanished. It's weird for Sig not to be the focus in a game.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:27 pm

QUIN WAS DELETED.

HE WAS "THE HOT ROCKS POLKA"- A SEMI-LIMITED CIVILIAN DOCTOR.

Also, yeah, the doctor is gone... unless "semi-limited" leaves room for another protective role.

I think everyone else has been vanilla, including the Mafioso. So probs no doc.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:51 am Oh yeah and there's LC.

I could always lynch him but I'm not as passionate for it as I was in the first two days.

Let's try to lynch at least one more baddie first.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:11 pmI have regret.

Wilgy's last post, six days ago. Did he forget about the game?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:50 pm Sloonei flaily
If I had made these kills, I would be steering directly into my own lynch. Why would I start flailing now? Do you ever actually try to read me?

Would it be the same situation for any of the other three Ninja Turtles, if they were alive instead of you?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:49 pm @DrWilgy @Dragon D. Luffy @Michelle @sig

Am I town or mafia?
Describe your new tactic, and how it helps you win.
I believe there’s a chance I was left alive so that I could be mislynched. I think it’s possible/probable that they’d be banking on a civilian or two to push the case forward. I want to get everyone’s opinion.

Epi pushed the case forward. You voted for him last night. Where does that leave you in regards to his alignment?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:49 pm @DrWilgy @Dragon D. Luffy @Michelle @sig

Am I town or mafia?

Describe your new tactic, and how it helps you win.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:13 pm [VOTE: Long con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:15 am Epi being mafia would help to explain why so many of my reads have felt unsatisfying.
If you flip scum he's lynching himself anyway so down you go buddy
What do you mean?
What’s my alignment?
I think you're town. Did you not like my question to Macdougall?
Just wanted to ask. Why am I town?

I believe I have you to thank for me not getting lynched day one. If you were bad, you would have no reason at all to switch the vote from me to a baddie.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:13 pm [VOTE: Long con] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:59 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:15 am Epi being mafia would help to explain why so many of my reads have felt unsatisfying.
If you flip scum he's lynching himself anyway so down you go buddy
What do you mean?
What’s my alignment?

I think you're town. Did you not like my question to Macdougall?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:15 am Epi being mafia would help to explain why so many of my reads have felt unsatisfying.
If you flip scum he's lynching himself anyway so down you go buddy

What do you mean?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm what do you have on him DDL?
Nothing.

Epi usually gives me more.
I can only get on when I can get on. We are getting ready for exams and the end of the semester and that's the busiest two times of the year for me by far. There is also an earlier deadline in "All My Circuits," so that gets prioritized over this one.

I apologize for not being around, but this is the best I can do.
I try never to judge activity. But I judge behavior. You could be much more assertive with your low post count, yet you seen to be accepting a more passive playstyle and that bothers me.
I'm not bothered by a passive epi. If anything, it's one of the reasons I town read him.

I initially typed "I'm not bothered by ass".
Yes, I think it's civ-Epi enough to go low key until midgame, and then spring out with a big case to suddenly control a lynch.
I controlled the last lynch though.

Oh, damn, that's right.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:53 pm sig and nova aren't partners.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:45 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 pm what do you have on him DDL?
Nothing.

Epi usually gives me more.
I can only get on when I can get on. We are getting ready for exams and the end of the semester and that's the busiest two times of the year for me by far. There is also an earlier deadline in "All My Circuits," so that gets prioritized over this one.

I apologize for not being around, but this is the best I can do.
I try never to judge activity. But I judge behavior. You could be much more assertive with your low post count, yet you seen to be accepting a more passive playstyle and that bothers me.
I'm not bothered by a passive epi. If anything, it's one of the reasons I town read him.

I initially typed "I'm not bothered by ass".

Yes, I think it's civ-Epi enough to go low key until midgame, and then spring out with a big case to suddenly control a lynch.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:33 pmWhat do you think about a drW lynch?
Looking back at his posts during the Dom lynch.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:25 pm On Dom: I'm very bad at reading him. Idk if I've ever seen him supa town and maybe this causes me to default to him being bad.
That's hedgey enough to warrant some suspicion.
Is DrW a player who knows Dom from many games?

Yes. Sloonei's right, though, Dom is hard to read.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:33 pmWhat do you think about a drW lynch?

Looking back at his posts during the Dom lynch.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:25 pm On Dom: I'm very bad at reading him. Idk if I've ever seen him supa town and maybe this causes me to default to him being bad.

That's hedgey enough to warrant some suspicion.

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