The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:00 am Super keen to hear from Wilgy and Dyslexicon.

Yeah! This ride ain't over yet!

If the mafia would like to concede, it is an option.

I think we have enough leeway to keep Alison around a little longer.

* dealing with 2 mafia...

With an Alison-Herm mafia team though... do the Day 4 reactions from them really line up with that? Talk about laying it on thick.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:30 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:26 am We have three living green checks from Alison.

She is not a protective.

She is alive day 4.

The only world we lose to is a world in which she is mafia.

Just saying ... We shouldn't discount out of hand infoyeeting her today. I'm a bit wobbly about her alignment right now I'm ngl. It's not like we can't just turbo Herm tomorrow to get back to status quo. Yeeting her and flipping her green today hard confirms three players to every other town. At this point the mafia might not even really be able to justify flipping her for that very reason.

Just saying we should discuss this.
i would only consider doing this if we could guarantee that her yeet would give us autowin, and i don't feel that we're at that point yet

also im probably against it just on the principle that i dont like infolynches

It's not precisely an infolynch when there's a clear conspiracy surrounding it.

I'm with you on this, Joseph. Is there some way to verify Alison tonight? I guess she could be Nude, the mafia rolecop, and then tracking her would give us false complacency. As in, she verifies the alignment of each player she rolecops.

Didn't the host say roleblocked players get notified?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:09 am There’s the complicating matter here that MR actually is on the album in question

Isn't it only complicating if we believe Herm?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:02 am SPF are you gonna get mod killed lol?

inorite?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:01 amLC target Radishes if your recipient does indeed get notified because it'll work if Juliets is covering him and won't if she's not. - Hey here's another potential reason why Radishes died, but Alison cop checked him so that's neat.

Shit, yeah, I DID target Radishes last night. Could have been bad for ol' LC. Thanks, Alison!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:59 pm I’m tempted to say it’s irrelevant if I did or if I didn’t — the mafia knew that I was assigned to doctor MR, that I was aware of this fact, and that I would as necessary and chose to take the shot anyways.

But no I didn’t doctor MR.

Kind of good if we really did catch Herm like we believe.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:57 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:24 pm @TonyStarkPrime did you doctor Radish?

Why did this post just give me deja vu? Asking non-sarcastically... argh, that's weird.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:21 pm me not realizing that herm was meant to have notified me on the check was one of the worst unforced errors I've seen in a while tbh. what a stupid throw from someone who tries hard to be careful and make the right play

I'm not sure you could have realized it before Herm let us know that's part of it? Like, just recently?

There maybe a Strongman kill... but I am a strong enough man to rise above the seething hatred that bubbles up and rises, always pulsing just beneath the surface of my cool veneer, threatening to overwhelm me in a tidal wave of red if I were to slip and lose control for just a second.

We're cool, but if you see my left eyelid twitching, run and grab an ax or something. And pray.

Right, he vigged JPIC... pretty Civilian kind of guy all around, yes.

I mean... not too hard for them to plan their block right, if they have one. Is this a confirmed mafia roleblocker?

Heavy dose of WIFOM is the only way I can see TSP being scum here. He's bad, and engineered this night so that we could get here and look at him, and come to the conclusion that a scum wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:14 am Draft 1 of the plan;

TSP doctors Radishes.

Was TSP blocked?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:44 pm Nice work dyachei.

Sorry for wrongly townshielding a Herm, everyone else was right to suspect that slot.

Also I green checked LC.

Nice! LOL come on, you guys knew I was town all along.

The fact that Herm wasn't even supposed to be able to target a player with ANYTHING using his claimed role is damning enough; I don't think we need to hear anything from Herm about it. [VOTE: herm] aubergine

...and?

Is everyone cool with me not revealing my song title? I think it puts me at greater risk for a soup kill and doesn't add much to solving.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:44 am @Long Con hey buddy please claim your song and album if thats alright

@Herm please check whatever album Long Con claims

@Poison Chan please lie detect Long Con's song claim

My album is In Rainbows. Not sure that claiming my song is the right move though.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:15 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:14 pmI hate dying when winning looks like a sketchy prospect.
"winning looks like a sketchy prospect" does not seem like a natural attitude for town to have given the events of this game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:20 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:47 pm Oh. JPIC was the reason thread wasn't open on N1. And here I was hoping Cindy Kate had finally come to its senses. What if someone vanillarized JPIC or some similar action, making his whole role useless? Night was open and Tutu wasn't capped. Looks like he was out of function. Does that make things make more sense?
Hey that's a bloody smart theory.

No one has claimed vanillarizer though. I don't think there is one.

Do we know there are no vig shots left?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:38 pm It is true that for me everything does not fit together perfectly. Something is up with JPIC for example. His living should have made us not have Night 2 open thread but we did. Host says it wasn't host error. Night 2 was also the night Wilgy says he tracked JPIC to tutuu. So the whole JPIC N2 thing is just weird. Maybe there was some crazy day action that caused the open night and Wilgy just lied like most people are saying. But the whole thing is suspect to me.

Could he have been put on the lift, his action delayed, and we won't have night 3 chat instead? I ask this with only a loose understanding of whether or not that is possible.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:06 pm Regarding falsification, my result is highly unlikely to have been falsified, since Ted did indeed target Tim as claimed by Ted. And that is the result I got.

Are we still Tim > Wilgy? Can someone explain why again? I don't mind. I will put my vote on whomever isn't the yeet so that I can track them.

I believe Tim's seeming desperation level is not Town indicative.

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Alison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:40 pm If that theory is true then JPIC stayed home (the first message was true) and Sloonei sent the second message about him visiting tutuu as a false report.

Also I interpreted the "no host errors" comment as being a statement that there were no issues with night action resolution. The phrase "at this point in time" makes me think it's a "yes, everyone has gotten the proper info right now" and not "I have never made a mistake sending a night report up til now"

but sprityo died d2 and he was the falsifier. he couldn't have acted n2
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Good point, nothing was falsified on Night 2.

Is there a falsified report reality where Wilgy, Dizzy, and Tim are all town?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:34 amI'm also missing something around me, Ted, and Longcon. I can't see any reason for LongCon to lie about tracking Ted, so something happened with my role block that I can't figure out. I'm not strong enough on mech stuff yet I guess.

You got the wrong guy, friend... I didn't track anyone.

For an art project in high school, we had to make a visual image based on a song. I chose Planet Telex. I got a couple of friends together, we smoke two joints, and I played the song for them, asking them what they saw when they heard the song. One of them described a desolate landscape and a Broken City, which is easy to understand when you listen to the song. The other said, "Triangles. Triangles within triangles infinitely."' So I made a piece with both those elements.

I don't think a member of the town fights this hard to survive in this situation. That's the bottom line for me, Tim is not town.

but you lied too...

[VOTE: tim] aubergine

I'll get on the Tim train. Wilgy is making me feel like he's town.

This is exciting. Good ol' dizzy!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:57 am Personally I think there are just as many holes in Long Con's claim. I still don't understand how he could have misread his role PM as vanilla. When asked "I guess it's because my role is unimportant" is just straight bullshit honestly. If anyone is phoning it in cuz their team has been tanked it's probably him lol. Also his role doesn't super make sense in the context of all the other ones.

Honestly, I had just smoked some weed, and I spaced on it. If you need to resolve me based on that, there is absolutely nothing I can say in my defense. I wouldn't even think of making up a role like this, I'd probably make up something that at least has been seen before.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:02 am Wilgy seems to be making some effort to engage with the game which means that despite my suspicions on them they can stay alive for now. LC had a townie response earlier and I would flip him later than Samu and Dizzy if I was playing this mountainous.

Mountainous means there are no roles and everyone's vanilla, right?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:57 am Personally I think there are just as many holes in Long Con's claim. I still don't understand how he could have misread his role PM as vanilla. When asked "I guess it's because my role is unimportant" is just straight bullshit honestly. If anyone is phoning it in cuz their team has been tanked it's probably him lol. Also his role doesn't super make sense in the context of all the other ones.
Looking at my own role card I just don't see how he could have mistaken that his said vanilla town if he really had a role ability. One of the things I've seen LC do in the past is scum slip. Remember that GOC where he slipped and said the name of one of the scum teams then made up an outlandish story to say how it happened?

Haha good times

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:30 am did wilgy change his result?

why do people keep changing shit. LC did this too

kinda want to scumread that but not sure why scum wilgy does it

Woah, back it up there, what did I change?

Right, I don't think that Ted's role and mine would interact meaningfully at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:34 am LC does the recipient of your action not receive a notification that they can't vote on you?

I don't know, I haven't used it yet. I think the utility increases dramatically at endgame, while being kind of useless for the first 3/4 of the game.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:23 am @Long Con how is your role worded, as vaguely and paraphrasingly as possible?
Does it make it so votes against u and by u target are worth 0 votes?

Can u check ted's claim and tell us how does ur role interact with his, if both of u happened to target each other?

Where's Ted's claim? This thread has a nasty habit of acquiring 10 extra pages overnight, and I tend to skip most of them.

My original claim post is practically verbatim.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:58 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:57 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:53 pm @Long Con how did u confuse "on 3 separate times you can make it so you and another player can't vote for each other" for "vanilla town"? was it the alcohol?
I guess. Maybe it's that my role might as well be vanilla. I don't know.

I don't see how it's suspicious though. You should just laugh at me and drop it.
towny response, you can be exed last in the poe

That is acceptable.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:53 pm @Long Con how did u confuse "on 3 separate times you can make it so you and another player can't vote for each other" for "vanilla town"? was it the alcohol?

I guess. Maybe it's that my role might as well be vanilla. I don't know.

I don't see how it's suspicious though. You should just laugh at me and drop it.

I am not in either of those two albums.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:10 pm why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

I didn't do anything wrong... I claimed because Mac asked.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:09 pm wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

Damn, I hope you're right about Wilgy then.

Why so narrow?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:07 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:05 pm also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah
I doubt the soup kill would be relative to role claiming. If it exists it'd be relative to song claiming. These roles aren't written to have names.

Didn't it already kind of exist and we killed it?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:05 pm also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

I can make a player unable to vote me the following day, and I can't vote them either.

Three times.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:59 pmmy first thought is that long con's ability felt more like a mafia ability than a town ability, tbh. i do not townread him even if i believe that the claim is probably real

It's real, I'll prove it if you like. It's pretty harmless. I see how it could be a mafia ability, but do you really expect yet another member of the mafia to be so sucktastic? tutuu would have a field day.

That is the role I forgot momentarily when I said I was vanilla. :hah:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:23 pm Can we get a list of everyone whose role forbids claiming?
Mine doesn't.

Also tutuu secretly voted me.
Claim then dude

On three separate Nights, I can select a player. Neither of us will be able to vote for each other the following Day.

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