The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:17 pm This is the most I’ve jumped around voting people in a long while. It feels like it cheapens things, since I’m apparently as swayed as a plastic bag in a windy back alley

(Which as we know, is the most beautiful thing in the

(Nah, the young'uns don't even know that movie exists!)

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:50 pm [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:59 pm I do think Tutuu is still flinging rubbish and would advocate a vote there.

What's this then, bait? And you caught Scotty?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:23 pm I think linked wolves would have communication with their counterparts... or, easier, they are just all in wolf chat together. I don't think that would be unfair.
What do you think the wolf wincon is?
Because if it’s just ‘reach parity with town’, the current format makes little to no sense.

Scenario: our thread eliminates 3 wolves and the 3p. Great. Then we just keep no lynching if we’re convinced.
Meanwhile, other thread keeps whittling down and it’s 3 wolves v 3 town. Does that proc a win for wolves over there? What about the ones over here? Does town over here lose because other town couldn’t get their shit together? That doesn’t seem fair.

Unless we merge at some point, for some reason. I hesitate to ask, but does that seem like it would fit thematically with the show?

I think there will be a merge.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:21 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:16 pm I’m protecting jack tonite btw. Do with that what you
Me too.
lol you aren’t my doppelgänger ole buddy ole

I'm your pocketgänger.

I think linked wolves would have communication with their counterparts... or, easier, they are just all in wolf chat together. I don't think that would be unfair.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:16 pm I’m protecting jack tonite btw. Do with that what you

Me too.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:55 pm Question to all:
-Is it even on the table to consider a scum cop in a setup? What would be needed to balance that out?
Regardless, scumjack has no need to claim right now. He’s set himself up to be a NK target too early

Also, the other side started with 13 people vs our 14, which stands to reason the 3p without a doppelgänger is in our thread.
Hard to hunt for a 3p in a closed setup, but perhaps mech will reveal itself. I’d be wary of seeming benign claims this point forward.
Scum Jack... would not be a nightkill target? You mean, like, perceptually one in the thread, necessitating hard questions after a few nights?
Yeah, I guess that wasn’t explained well, but you got it. I mean, why would a scumjack claim cop this early if he doesn’t die after a few nights. He doesn’t

I know no one even suggested it, I’m just talking out loud

I think it's a good subject to discuss, even briefly.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:50 pm
-I find it VERY unlikely balance-wise that linked players would ever both be wolves, so it stands to reason that tutuu/Robyn is not w/w.

Wait, actually I don't know about this. What is the balance issue if the wolves are linked with wolves? I assumed that was the logical way to do things. But that was before I knew about timeshifting, which would allow for fast outing.... IF you knew the linked player.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:50 pm Here’s where I’m at mech-wise, since no one asked:

-When a player in one thread dies, they gain BTSC with their doppel in other thread.
-I find it VERY unlikely balance-wise that linked players would ever both be wolves, so it stands to reason that tutuu/Robyn is not w/w.
-Mac and Nutella were both removed from the game, which stands to reason they were both linked, and both get removed from the game when their doppel dies. Mac was probably VT
-tutuu has held her cards very close to her chest, as Robyn had professed in limited fashion. They are the same role, as professed. I expected more sharing and less despondent/unsubstantiated labeling from tutuu in this matter. There is definitely a world in which tutuu is wolf, and is categorically running with the delta= scum angle Robyn put forth, knowing full well it will be a mislynch and is easily dismissible as Tutuu’s responsibility.
-Balance-wise, it doesn’t make sense for a player to retain their role/powers if they die and go to the other thread, as they can’t be voted/would be OP.
-There is a good chunk of VTs in this game, which me no likey tbh. That’s tangential and doesn’t actually affect the game more than I don’t like an abundance of VTs in a large, closed, role-madness inferred type of game.
-we have a claimed cop in Jack, so it stands to reason we probably have one in the other thread. I agree with tutuu that there’s more likely to be 6 wolves in this game, meaning probably 3 wolves in this group of 12. That’s 1/4, or 7/28, for those keeping score at
Im vt relax honey

Im not holding cards close to chest im just arffff mimimimimi

Is that a snoring sound?

Also, ha, no, I don't want to believe in a scum cop. A scum can fake being a cop just fine without a freaky role.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:55 pm Question to all:
-Is it even on the table to consider a scum cop in a setup? What would be needed to balance that out?
Regardless, scumjack has no need to claim right now. He’s set himself up to be a NK target too early

Also, the other side started with 13 people vs our 14, which stands to reason the 3p without a doppelgänger is in our thread.
Hard to hunt for a 3p in a closed setup, but perhaps mech will reveal itself. I’d be wary of seeming benign claims this point forward.

Scum Jack... would not be a nightkill target? You mean, like, perceptually one in the thread, necessitating hard questions after a few nights?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:51 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:47 pm Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ

Vote delta for a free win ᕙ(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᕗ
Ok if this’ll make clock out faster

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

But... isn't that what you did?

Good mech, I think I agree with all of it

Jack, maybe if you'd been a bit more patient then you would not have had to out yourself.

Okay, well then there I go I guess

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:23 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:40 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:46 pm What does everyone think of DarlingMonroe?

Why is no one talking about them? Their posts seem performative. Is it just me or
Blatantly and obviously town. I'd bet the whole game on it.
Man, if you say so.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

When someone makes declarative statements like this, I gotta listen, even tho

Then why aren't you voting Delta?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:52 pm And I was like, "is robyn a detective?" but then Jack is claiming it and I don't know if two are likely.

tutuu, tell me you understand.
We dont have a red peek on delta

I dont have a case on delta

Just trust the process ... Smile and wave ...

Cool, let's hear about the process.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:50 pm [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

Did you get your free win??

And I was like, "is robyn a detective?" but then Jack is claiming it and I don't know if two are likely.

tutuu, tell me you understand.

I'd love a delta case that one could sink one's teeth into, not sales pitches and "robyn thought so"

Just wanna say that I was surprised Mac was playing, because I love that guy, and it sucks he's gone.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:20 pm Since I'm probably the most consensus townread anyway, I'm going to claim a green peek on DarlingMonroe @Scotty @tutuu @Cape90 @Lime Coke

Do me next.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:25 pm Far too big of a gap in votes between PSV and Porscha. Kinda gross.
I'm sorry you don't like it. It was 5-3 a couple of minutes before it closed, and I made it 6-3 because I felt like it. So you can blame me for the grossness in part. Jack said it was yucky too.
Hmmm... How do I describe it?

Stapled on, as in just put there because it can be. Wolves don't have a reason to not vote Porscha so why not?

Does that help?

It's more clear, but I disagree. Wolves know Porscha's town, so they avoid voting there and let the town voters take the blame.

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:18 pm @Lime Coke sanity check me on my long con read

Save your sanity and stop trying.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:25 pm Far too big of a gap in votes between PSV and Porscha. Kinda gross.
What's that mean to you? Like does that indicate PSV is bad with someone on Porscha's wagon? Or something else?
It implies stapled on votes, meaning I'd be surprised to not see a red on the Porscha wagon, possible, but would be surprising. In spite of this train of thought, we have no natural way to explore it immediately without flips, so it shall rest for now.

"Stapled on", I am unfamiliar with the meaning.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:25 pm Far too big of a gap in votes between PSV and Porscha. Kinda gross.

I'm sorry you don't like it. It was 5-3 a couple of minutes before it closed, and I made it 6-3 because I felt like it. So you can blame me for the grossness in part. Jack said it was yucky too.

*town, not own

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:03 pm LC's read on me is the only read I can follow and it's just OMGUS.

Like I don't know that he suspects Scotty and PSV but I don't know why.

What's my read on you?

I suspect Scotty because he's reminding me strongly of the last game we played where he was wolf and I was own.

I suspect PSV because I believe they are trying to capitalize on the D1 yeet of a villager by using refuted logic, and that is wolfy to me.

Both these reasons are already in the thread, but I like you, so you get a re-type.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:14 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:12 pm Also I gave my opinion on one of your posts and later I voted you. Calling that particular investment isn't right
Which I found lazy tbh... idk how stating there was one player left to check in is suspicious... it just screams you grasping at straws to get anyone lynched.... which if you are town (which I highly doubt based on your behaviour), I don't see how it is helpful.

I usually see earlier Day 1 votes as reaction probes. I don't think it's lazy, I think it's a great way to get conversation swingin'. My read on you is that you're the one getting overly defensive, and it feels wolfy. "It just screams you grasping at straws"...either you are prone to exaggeration, or you are freaking out a little bit too much. It wasn't a huge case, it wasn't even something tutuu was pushing others to follow, it was a vote. It's Mafia, ya get votes. I probably have a couple right now, I'm not telling them they're screaming and grasping at straws.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:52 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:51 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:48 pm Can we stop with this if not super active with dozens of posts = not town?

A lot of the wolf seem to be trying to control the narrative of such.
I don't feel that's been the mood?

Hmm, yes. Porscha because she had 10 posts and etc etc was a big part they voted to lynch them. And for me it’s being the same thing because other than that there’s no reason to realistically think I am not town

Ithinks you doth protest too much, again. Framing the suspicion against you as "Must be due to lower number of posts, because my play has been pristine so there's to other reasonable reason I could possibly be suspected" is just not true or reasonable itself. I just gave a reason unrelated to your post count above, and I don't think it's unrealistic.

Another reason is that you hopped on the illogical assumption that there must be a wolf on the Porscha votes, which is a position that I consider pretty wolfy because it makes no actual sense, and I've described how it makes no sense, and you still held on to it. That's not scumhunting at all, but I think you want it to look like it is.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:51 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:48 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:46 amPush you?
I mean. Not off a cliff. Show me some conviction behind your read. Why am I wolf? What makes me wolfy? Surely you haven't seen me howl at the moon, so what's got your tinsel in a tangle? I'm not feeling the sincerity.
Honestly, your feelings aren't a concern to me in this regard.
There’s that word again

Your recognition skills remain adequate.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:05 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:27 pm "uhhh why are we having a semantics argument?" We're not. You are receiving a correction for being disingenuous.
disingenuous because Scotty said concerned and not concern? Would it make u look any better if Scotty said concern and not concerned here??? I am confused because to me it really doesn't do anything for you/Scotty saying concerned doesn't make you look worse to me?

I think you missed the post where I explained it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:58 pm And whaddya mean "these". You're trying to group my Porscha vote and my PSV suspicion together and say they're equally not real?
Yeh.

OH, duh, because I'm a wolf. Sorry, I was looking at it from MY perspective.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:51 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:48 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:46 amPush you?
I mean. Not off a cliff. Show me some conviction behind your read. Why am I wolf? What makes me wolfy? Surely you haven't seen me howl at the moon, so what's got your tinsel in a tangle? I'm not feeling the sincerity.
Honestly, your feelings aren't a concern to me in this regard.
LC's content itg is SO limp that I'm considering reversing my scumread there just because I think LC is a better wolf than what I'm seeing.

Still leaves me with the thoughts "Why is LC so off from me if we're both town and he's not explaining his reads well?" and "If not LC, then who is a wolf?"

Still enjoying the performance.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:51 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:48 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:46 amPush you?
I mean. Not off a cliff. Show me some conviction behind your read. Why am I wolf? What makes me wolfy? Surely you haven't seen me howl at the moon, so what's got your tinsel in a tangle? I'm not feeling the sincerity.
Honestly, your feelings aren't a concern to me in this regard.

I guess not. You wouldn't believe it, but I'm town and I'm trying not to vote other townies. When you're unwilling to back up your read on me then it just comes off as trying to go for the easiest target.

I'm not unwilling to back up my read on you. I've been perfectly clear. I don't understand why you think you can gaslight the thread about it.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:52 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:48 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:46 amPush you?
I mean. Not off a cliff. Show me some conviction behind your read. Why am I wolf? What makes me wolfy? Surely you haven't seen me howl at the moon, so what's got your tinsel in a tangle? I'm not feeling the sincerity.
Push her. Not off a cliff. But off of a boardwalk into the ocean next to the beach.

Sounds like retirement. I'm in. [VOTE: potentialsheltervet] aubergine

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:48 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:46 amPush you?
I mean. Not off a cliff. Show me some conviction behind your read. Why am I wolf? What makes me wolfy? Surely you haven't seen me howl at the moon, so what's got your tinsel in a tangle? I'm not feeling the sincerity.

Honestly, your feelings aren't a concern to me in this regard.

Push you?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:41 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:39 am Still pushing the baseless logic and making it an "assumption". Cool, that oughtta work. You are such a wolf.
Care to engage with any of my posts, milord?

Which ones?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:36 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:13 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:13 pm I don’t see you as wholly committed to any read this game
I am wholly committed to my PSV read.

In actuality though I am kinda amused that your read on me just... materialized and mineralized. Even being the subject of it I don't feel that pressured. I feel more like I'm having my back scratched than being poked with a stick.

That's honestly the best I can ever do.

Still pushing the baseless logic and making it an "assumption". Cool, that oughtta work. You are such a wolf.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:00 pm MacDougall has been removed from the game.

nutella has been removed from the game.

robyn has been removed from the game by the host by request. Please do not publicly discuss or speculate about this one.

Workday Two continues.

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lol bruh robyn was the reason i joined this since they asked me to

We appreciate your presence despite her absence.

I guess it's still relevant in that it was our first indication of the interesting mechanics of the game

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:04 pm sorry just been busy with irl stuff and keep forgetting about this game, can someone fill me in on the robyn stuff i havent had time to backread

I don't think it's relevant anymore

I have zero townreads, I hope I figure some out soon.

"uhhh why are we having a semantics argument?" We're not. You are receiving a correction for being disingenuous.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm Yeah, you seem exactly like last game.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment since I am very much not
Surely you see my concern then.
I don’t see you concerned, actually. And that’s the
Same word, different meanings.
uhhh why are we having a semantics argument?
“Concerned: (adjective) troubled or anxious”
“Concern: (noun) worry, solicitude or anxiety”

What are we talking about here

"Surely you see my concern then"... 'concern' meaning a possibly important factor, a potentially relevant POV.

"I don’t see you concerned"... looking for me to emote about it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm Yeah, you seem exactly like last game.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment since I am very much not
Surely you see my concern then.
I don’t see you concerned, actually. And that’s the

Same word, different meanings.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:13 pm I don’t see you as wholly committed to any read this game

I am wholly committed to my PSV read.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:11 pm I don’t believe that you actually suspect me, Long Con. I think you named me as a potential scapegoat to make up a case on down the line if things don’t go your way.

If you had been more committed to reading me as bad, I would be less inclined to feel you’re trying to sneakily tie a rope around my ankle before my race

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

That feels

I'm surprised it's getting under your skin this much.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm Yeah, you seem exactly like last game.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment since I am very much not

Surely you see my concern then.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:01 pm But in this one, I will say there is a layer of hesitation im noticing. He even admitted on this page that he is waiting for other people to step in and he’ll follow.
What did I say?
dude I don’t know I’m not an encyclopedia

Something something I could vote that way something something scotty my best friend something

Yeah, this isn't Creative Writing.

Yeah, you seem exactly like last game.

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