The Syndicate

Yeah, Oddmerta couldn't have gotten any notification from herm's power if he weren't town, right? Or I guess 3p?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:59 amcould you please tell me your N4 action?

Holstered.

Jules is Selesnya, and that's final.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:07 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:06 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm [VOTE: samu] aubergine

Why Samu over me?

he said he saw 2 people at alison and there were 3...

This is the decider, I think. He guessed wrong with the fake claim. [VOTE: samu] aubergine

Never mind, it was pat pat misspelled.

Sorry, people talk in acronyms so much I never know

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:43 am yea, interrogating samu any further is just like kicking a dead horse

leave the poor boy alone

pat apt

What's pat apt?

All right! Who's got some more delicious mechanical confusion?

I thought I was in trouble.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:30 pm tutuu: puts so much effort into avoiding even the tiniest miniscule potential spoiler about a show that's 18 years old, carefully putting everything in spoilers and putting warnings all over

long con:

But... you know Mr Eko, and that's like the first time he's even seen!

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:38 pm @Long Con is ur name a lost reference? (pls be careful with spoilers im watching atm)

Another what?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:54 pm Top 5 most adorable things

5. Tim saying he townreads someone based on them being cuddly
4. Poison Chan saying Kyaaaaa~
3. Ted spamming dorky gifs to make his frands smile
2. Juliets getting visibly excited she saw Alison scumslipping
1. Alison pouting

I created the Pout Smiley. No one out-pouts Pouty.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:31 pm Mac has a Barney.

Please someone catch the reference.

Barney.... Barney Rubble........ Trouble! Mac is in trouble.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:41 pm This day has been silly with all the doomsaying.

If Alison is town which is very likely the case we have three confirmed non mafia plus her.

SPF and I are essentially clear from interactions in my view.

Tutuu is near clear for just general play.

Herm was scummy anyway and tracked to to the kill with a dubious claim that Alison says she didn't even receive notification on.

Even if Herm flips town we're still well ahead with another night of massive PR advantage. The mafia are essentially doomed. The 3p is a concern but that's a different kettle of fish.

The game continues regardless of what happens today and we remain miles ahead regardless of who dies.

Agreed.

I don't have the same trust of tutuu though. If I survive and the game keeps going, I am likely to end up voting for her before long.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:35 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:07 pm WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

I AM THE MAFIA PRODIGY OF THE NEW MILLENIA

poison chan said her role implies there exists redirectors

so what if dyachei was redirected to TSP, and they saw TSP visit MR?

but tsp's info is so dubious on whetehr or not he doctored MR. and herm so scummy too. weh whatever maybe im not that smart maybe im pretty dumb

TSP said he holstered. nobody has claimed to visit MR.

Except me and Herm.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:41 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:34 pm reasons why im voting herm:

-he got tracked to a night kill, and i believe that the report is real. there is a small possibility that the reason he got tracked to the nightkill is because he visited that player when he "informed" them, but it's a pretty sketchy explanation

-he changed crucial information about his claim after several real life days and 50+ pages, by going from saying multiple times that he would notify everyone on the album he checked to saying that he would only notify one person on the album he checked

-he has scum equity with all of the flipped wolves

i have seen the sentiment of: "yeet herm and blame SPF if it's wrong", and while this is selfish of me, i don't want to take accountability if herm is town. i am not confident that he is mafia - but im voting him because there are more factors that point to him being mafia than not

and realistically, im going to end up voting wilgy tomorrow regardless of herm's flip

ps: i realized that i've been using the word "lynch" a lot in this game, and that's because it's extremely common vernacular on my home site. i assume that this site isn't okay with that type of language, and i will do my best to stop using it! apologies in advance for slipping up

This site has used "lynch" since its inception, but some folks in the past few months have brought over the idea that it's a racist term. I don't see it as racist at all, it's just a word for hanging someone without a trial. But I'm not interested in arguing with the Politically Correct crowd about something that doesn't matter to me either way. That's what Facebook is for.

I started out subbing in "yeet" when I remembered to, even though it makes me feel like a spazzy gamerboy with a disappointing vocabulary. "Chop" is my new fave, as it brings to mind the executioner's axe coming down, and beheading is as traditional and classic a way to end a life as hanging is. I don't like "execute" or "eliminate" (or their short forms, "exe" and "elim") because I find them unwieldy. I'm a Chop man now, but I don't give a damn who says 'lynch'... we've been saying it in Mafia for over a decade, and I have never heard of it making anyone uncomfortable. But obviously I don't hear everything, especially those things that were unsaid for fear of social disapproval.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:27 pm Ok, what's an alibibi?

i think he was saying alibi?

I figured, but I don't know if his home site refers to an alibi as a Mafia term, like 'camouflage', or if it's just a weird way to describe fooling an investigative role.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:34 pm reasons why im voting herm:

-he got tracked to a night kill, and i believe that the report is real. there is a small possibility that the reason he got tracked to the nightkill is because he visited that player when he "informed" them, but it's a pretty sketchy explanation

-he changed crucial information about his claim after several real life days and 50+ pages, by going from saying multiple times that he would notify everyone on the album he checked to saying that he would only notify one person on the album he checked

-he has scum equity with all of the flipped wolves

i have seen the sentiment of: "yeet herm and blame SPF if it's wrong", and while this is selfish of me, i don't want to take accountability if herm is town. i am not confident that he is mafia - but im voting him because there are more factors that point to him being mafia than not

and realistically, im going to end up voting wilgy tomorrow regardless of herm's flip

Blame me as well if that's the case. He's not your pet yeet, he's a community one.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:22 pm You hinting that you think u have mech info that there is a godfather in this game kind of kills my passion and if it turns out to be true im not signing up for any more closed setups on syndicate tbh

You can play my games, Nissan. All open-setup.

Ok, what's an alibibi?

I'm done trying to analyze this today. This page was way too f'ed up for me to follow, and it's upsetting me a little, so I'm done.

If everyone decides for some reason not to yeet Herm today, I'll find out from some synopsis later, because I can't do it anymore. Either I'm having a stroke or this has become way too deep in the weeds for my brain by a long shot. I read this last page and I have zero usable thoughts coming from it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:40 pm WHY WAS TUTUU ROLEBLOCKED BY THE MAFIA IF THE MAFIA WEREN'T SHOOTING INTO SPF/MAC/ALISON?

WHY I SAY?

WHYYYYYYYYY

She wasn't roleblocked; she's just pretending she was because she's scum and wants to mess up our analysis.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 pm @Long Con, can you tell us action on N3 for the list?

I targeted Radishes.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:33 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:30 pm

this has been my mood over the last few pages

I don't get why you felt that way about me pointing out the answer to your question that you had missed.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:26 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:21 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:48 pm i simply dont believe that herm claimed well over 50 pages ago with the specific claim that he would notify everyone on the album that he investigated, and then realized that he misread his role PM 50 pages later and changed his claim at a point when it would be beneficial for him to do as scum. it's too coincidental and i have trouble believing herm would misunderstand his own role so badly

oddmerta sticking his neck out for herm does admittedly make me less sure

You said you have 100% evidence Herm is scum. What's the current stance on that front?

Elsie, lol, read up two posts #7612.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:48 pm i simply dont believe that herm claimed well over 50 pages ago with the specific claim that he would notify everyone on the album that he investigated, and then realized that he misread his role PM 50 pages later and changed his claim at a point when it would be beneficial for him to do as scum. it's too coincidental and i have trouble believing herm would misunderstand his own role so badly

oddmerta sticking his neck out for herm does admittedly make me less sure

You said you have 100% evidence Herm is scum. What's the current stance on that front?

So if Herm is scum then Oddmerta is 100% his partner.

It's really really weird if a host notification about a player checking an album randomly goes to only one town member on the album, IF there's no bad guys on the album, AND it results in a positive trackable visit.

That convoluted mess is far too crazy for me to believe, sorry Herm. I've been playing for 15 years, and I have never seen such a bizarre, convoluted role.

Yes, I see. I understand. My vote is not necessarily permanent.

This all is getting super-sketchy.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:17 am Also this is why I dislike mechanics heavy games, it's a lose-lose for me from here. If I lose, well, I lose. If I win then half the work was completely out of my hands and nothing to do with me at all, just getting carried by Tracker GOATs.

Play my Spider-verse game when it comes out. Mechanics-heavy, but an omnipresent soup kill and several ways that scum can deceive info roles will highlight good old-fashioned detective work for the most part.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:25 am And a townie from that album gets notified of tbe search

The thing that confuses me is why no townies have been notified of the first two searches. Didn't LC say he had not been notified yet is one of the albums?

Not me, I think it was Alison.

NO ONE has been notified of anything Herm has done, I don't believe this claim, and my vote is staying as of now.

Never doubted you for a sec, tutuu!

When considering the inverse, that scum-Dizzy did this to implicate Wilgy... I find that much harder to believe.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:27 am So Wilgy's "red flag" is that he claimed that only one person visited on n1 but in fact both Dyslexicon AND Tim are claiming to have?

Also that he tracked JPIC to Tutuu but Tutuu didn't get post capped.

Hmmmmm

For the Dizzy/Tim conundrum... is it true that Dizzy didn't claim until after Wilgy? If so, then that smacks of a not-enough-info false claim. Like, he thought it was a done deal that only Tim had visited, but there was a slanky deviant with some extra info to add, that nobody expected!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:07 pm TSP is our doc right?

Wait Wilgy actually posted already and said this, voted Herm and bailed without claiming his result?

What kinda shit lol.

The mafia is probs just Wilgy and Herm I guess.

Wouldn't mafia Wilgy come prepared with a result that's designed to ingratiate him with the towncore?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:00 am Super keen to hear from Wilgy and Dyslexicon.

Yeah! This ride ain't over yet!

If the mafia would like to concede, it is an option.

I think we have enough leeway to keep Alison around a little longer.

* dealing with 2 mafia...

With an Alison-Herm mafia team though... do the Day 4 reactions from them really line up with that? Talk about laying it on thick.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:26 am We have three living green checks from Alison.

She is not a protective.

She is alive day 4.

The only world we lose to is a world in which she is mafia.

Just saying ... We shouldn't discount out of hand infoyeeting her today. I'm a bit wobbly about her alignment right now I'm ngl. It's not like we can't just turbo Herm tomorrow to get back to status quo. Yeeting her and flipping her green today hard confirms three players to every other town. At this point the mafia might not even really be able to justify flipping her for that very reason.

Just saying we should discuss this.

i would only consider doing this if we could guarantee that her yeet would give us autowin, and i don't feel that we're at that point yet

also im probably against it just on the principle that i dont like infolynches

It's not precisely an infolynch when there's a clear conspiracy surrounding it.

I'm with you on this, Joseph. Is there some way to verify Alison tonight? I guess she could be Nude, the mafia rolecop, and then tracking her would give us false complacency. As in, she verifies the alignment of each player she rolecops.

Didn't the host say roleblocked players get notified?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:09 am There’s the complicating matter here that MR actually is on the album in question

Isn't it only complicating if we believe Herm?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:02 am SPF are you gonna get mod killed lol?

inorite?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:01 amLC target Radishes if your recipient does indeed get notified because it'll work if Juliets is covering him and won't if she's not. - Hey here's another potential reason why Radishes died, but Alison cop checked him so that's neat.

Shit, yeah, I DID target Radishes last night. Could have been bad for ol' LC. Thanks, Alison!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:59 pm I’m tempted to say it’s irrelevant if I did or if I didn’t — the mafia knew that I was assigned to doctor MR, that I was aware of this fact, and that I would as necessary and chose to take the shot anyways.

But no I didn’t doctor MR.

Kind of good if we really did catch Herm like we believe.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:57 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:24 pm @TonyStarkPrime did you doctor Radish?

Why did this post just give me deja vu? Asking non-sarcastically... argh, that's weird.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:21 pm me not realizing that herm was meant to have notified me on the check was one of the worst unforced errors I've seen in a while tbh. what a stupid throw from someone who tries hard to be careful and make the right play

I'm not sure you could have realized it before Herm let us know that's part of it? Like, just recently?

There maybe a Strongman kill... but I am a strong enough man to rise above the seething hatred that bubbles up and rises, always pulsing just beneath the surface of my cool veneer, threatening to overwhelm me in a tidal wave of red if I were to slip and lose control for just a second.

We're cool, but if you see my left eyelid twitching, run and grab an ax or something. And pray.