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- Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:23 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 6]
But how the fuck am I "replying to everything that I'm not trying hard"?
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:57 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Yeah, first thing in the morning.... scanned the post and missed that sentence. I tried trying hard and it didn't work out, so I'm trying to take a backseat now.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:42 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
I agree, speedchuck is full of shit.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:17 amYou know you're full of shit when Epi thinks your linguistics argument is boring.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:42 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Is that what you read in that post?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:15 amYou keep replying everything with "I'm not actually trying hard" and we'll eventually have to lynch you for not looking civ enough. Just saying.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:51 pmI didn't bring up suspicion of nutella. My post wasn't about suspecting nutella. I didn't "frame" anything, and anyone who "picked up on it" was reading it wrong.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:00 pmYou brought it up bruh. And I didn't like how you did it.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pmWell, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pmnutellaLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pmFor whom?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pm
eeegeeggggghhhhh
And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
Framing suspicion in a way that town can pick up on, but that doesn't state it directly. I don't like that.
And then nutella's post was obviously lamenting that we got a town flip rather than scum. In most games, a town flip is worst scenario. This game is different, with lynched failing almost half the time, but it's NOT GOOD, even as you said.
And then the way you presented the obversavion, making sure to place yourself as a part of 'us' and reemphasize the bright side and the town win condition.
These weak bits come together to make me feel like you're trying too hard to be the nonchalant townie and fly under the radar while casting shade on nutella.
So, no, I don't like your post. If you had said "no, not alignment indicative" I would have assumed that it was just a post for the sake of posting. But the way you framed your suspicion is sleazy and suspicious.
Yes, part of nutella's post was "obviously lamenting" that mal was town. There was nothing in my post denying that lynching a Civ is bad, or that nutella thought so.
You would prefer that a player always use the third-person "the Civs" rather than "us" unless they're Confirmed Civ?
I agree, these bits are weak. Weak as hell, I dare say! You are so way off, I'm not trying too hard at anything right now. My nonchalance is pure, natural cool, my friend. I haven't seen "under the radar" in a Mafia game since 2012, so nuh-uh... and I would not want to cast shade on the unique and colourful flower that is nutella.
tl;dr "You're way off from the get-go, dude."
I'll respond to the rest of you suckas in separate posts.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:38 am
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- Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:29 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
LOL go for it, and be wrong. It'll be fun. Just promise to win it after I'm gone.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:02 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Helped me get a read on you early. I have never committedly believed you were bad, but it was a possibility. And I do love to help my Civ friends out by casting suspicion their way. I don't really know what you're going to do without my help from here on in.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:59 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
If people would stop asking me useless questions, I wouldn't have to answer with so much useless content.
As I said before, I haven't been all that suspicious of bob, but I have noted Sloonei's tunnel, and my level of belief in Sloonei's Civness and Mafia ability will need to inform me on how to proceed, should a bob vote come up. So far, a bob vote hasn't been the focus of any lynch, so, like many other players currently alive, I've kind of put off a strong bob analysis.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:53 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
blah blah blah blah Long Con talk blahSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:45 pm I have a couple of issues with some of the things Long Con said on the last page.This is not the sense that I got from nutella's post. That in itself is not a reason for suspicion. But it's not exactly encouraging that this whole conversation is staring off on what could be read as a soft attempt to scrutinize nutella for a point which (I think) does not really exist. I took her negative response to be purely toward Mal's town flip, and the remarks about needing to reconsider Day 2 activities was an afterthought. LC seems to have conflated the two together. I'm only highlighting this here because it's the foundation of the conversation that would ensue, and by my judgment nutella is clearly the subject.
This is a separate thought, but again one that alarmed me a little. He qualifies himself a bit too carefully here. "For the record, I always considered myself as potentially...". That's three different expressions of hesitation. A confident townie could just as easily have said "I could also follow Sloonei on a bob lynch", but LC here took a whole lot of extra time getting that leap of faith out.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:27 pmFor the record, I always considered myself as potentially following a bob lynch, based on a leap of faith in Sloonei's ability... but I never felt my skirt blown up by the case against him.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:46 pm On the Bob thing.
I don't feel anything bad about Bob. But so far I've just read Sloonei's posts and thought "he had a point". I agree with Sloonei's points, but not hard enough to think Bob is definite scum. I'm suspecting Bob by proxy. But I don't want to ISO Bob myself because I'll probably just confirmation bias my way into voting him.
But while I was showering now, I had a thought. It's weird that Sloonei is tunneling so hard on Bob and yet nobody else is caring too much....
Also not a big fan of the way he sets up the hypothetical Bob vote in such a way that the responsibility is placed significantly on my shoulders rather than his own.
The highlighted section reflects the same attitude I just talked about above. Unless I'm misreading this whole exchange, Speedchuck did not bring this topic up, or else what was Long Con's initial post even supposed to mean? These posts just feel like we're pulling teeth to get reads out of Long Con. That's not something I associate with town behavior.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pmWell, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pmnutellaLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pmFor whom?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pmeeegeeggggghhhhh
And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
So yeah. There's that.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:49 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Christ. Don't put this on me. There's a short list of players that decided to jump to unsupported conclusions about one sentence I typed. You yourself called it "bullshit". I guess I should just not respond to that kind of thing, sorry for attempting to clarify myself. If you don't want to hear my so-called "empty nitpicky nonsense", then next time, don't ask for it.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:38 amSo? Notice how I said "how the last couple lynches have gone" -- Day 4 also went down in such a way that I'm not surprised there wasn't more of a push against bob.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:10 pmI started pushing bob on Night 3nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:52 pm Actually either way DDL's observation is fairly weak in the face of the Mal wagon. Given how early the lynch was more or less a foregone conclusion (and I think most players knew they wouldn't be around for EOD and were happy piling on Mal early), even if Mal had been bad it would have been far too easy to bus him and I just don't think I could imagine a version of yesterday involving a serious push against the Mal lynch. I honestly think DDL's observation is fairly NAI for Bob considering how the last couple lynches have actually gone down. I think in other situations I would readily agree with Sloonei that it's pretty strong evidence, but in the context of this game specifically I don't think it holds much water.
This is such a waste of time. If you believe I'm town why are you putting time and effort into this incredibly anal argument rather than hunting scum? I'll answer just because your points don't make any sense and I stand for nothing if not truth and clarity.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:04 amOk, first off, here's what I see:
But let's dissect the whole thing to make sure I'm understanding.
1. What is bullshit, if I'm right? Are you talking about speedchuck's idea that I'm suspecting you for something? In that case, I agree 100% - that's bullshit, and I do indeed know it.
2. Where did I imply that lynching a townie is ok? Of course you're disappointed we lynched a townie. I know that. What I didn't understand was your negativity toward the Chim-whatever flip killing certain theories. That's a good thing.
To put it another way: Your post would have made more sense to me if it had looked like this:
Very slight difference, but it highlights your feelings on the info in a totally different way.alternatenutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:57 pm Well shit. That result is disappointing. On the flip side, the Chimborazo flip kills a few of my theories on what happened on day 2... but I think there are still more sloonei-civ explanations that make more sense than sloonei-bad ones.
1. The bullshit was your claim that I was being overly negative. I expressed a negative reaction to the result, which we seem to agree is warranted. I then expressed that the result affected some thoughts I had on roles/mechanics/previous game events. Maybe part of the disappointment carried over just in that I had thought I had Day 2/some roles figured out and was disappointed that I was wrong. But since I stated my conclusion that I still think Sloonei is most likely town, it didn't end up making that huge a difference either way.
2. Where did I imply that you implied that lynching a townie is ok? Wtf? I do not even understand what is prompting your question. Nowhere did I imply that you implied that. And again, you are greatly exaggerating my "negativity" in the rest of my comment. Your rephrase does nothing for me and I stand by the way I phrased it as making more sense in my mind. Like I said, it's reasonable that I would have been somewhat disappointed to find out that I was wrong, not to mention somewhat disappointed at the loss of the specific town role that we had lynched in addition to the fact that we lynched a townie. And I will admit that the rest of my post is the result of a thought process that I didn't write out -- for a few minutes I was thinking that the Chimborazo flip made Sloonei much more likely to be bad, but another look through the roles reminded me of other town possibilities for him and Jack (fwiw I had thought Jack was Chimborazo, not Sloonei, but it connects don't worry too much about it).
Anyway I'm done with this conversation and with your empty nitpicky nonsense. It's distracting from actually solving the game. What do you think about bob?
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:44 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
I don't understand your confusion, it's a pretty simple interaction, and it has been explained already. I'll try putting it yet another way, in the hopes that you understand.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:29 amThis is exactly my point. If not that, then what was it about??
I saw the malakim role flip, and I thought "Cool, this role was involved in some earlier theories - now that we know it was mal, some of these theories will tighten up considerably, becoming closer to *solved*."
nutella saw the role flip, and expressed disappointment, specifically about the way that Chimbroazoa "killed" some earlier theories.
I was like "Yo nut, that ain't a bad thing!" That's all. That's "what it was about", and I can't wait for the chance to pick apart some innocuous post just because it didn't solve the game.
- Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:04 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Ok, first off, here's what I see:
But let's dissect the whole thing to make sure I'm understanding.
1. What is bullshit, if I'm right? Are you talking about speedchuck's idea that I'm suspecting you for something? In that case, I agree 100% - that's bullshit, and I do indeed know it.
2. Where did I imply that lynching a townie is ok? Of course you're disappointed we lynched a townie. I know that. What I didn't understand was your negativity toward the Chim-whatever flip killing certain theories. That's a good thing.
To put it another way: Your post would have made more sense to me if it had looked like this:
Very slight difference, but it highlights your feelings on the info in a totally different way.alternatenutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:57 pm Well shit. That result is disappointing. On the flip side, the Chimborazo flip kills a few of my theories on what happened on day 2... but I think there are still more sloonei-civ explanations that make more sense than sloonei-bad ones.
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:51 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
I didn't bring up suspicion of nutella. My post wasn't about suspecting nutella. I didn't "frame" anything, and anyone who "picked up on it" was reading it wrong.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:00 pmYou brought it up bruh. And I didn't like how you did it.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pmWell, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pmnutellaLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pmFor whom?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pmeeegeeggggghhhhh
And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
Framing suspicion in a way that town can pick up on, but that doesn't state it directly. I don't like that.
And then nutella's post was obviously lamenting that we got a town flip rather than scum. In most games, a town flip is worst scenario. This game is different, with lynched failing almost half the time, but it's NOT GOOD, even as you said.
And then the way you presented the obversavion, making sure to place yourself as a part of 'us' and reemphasize the bright side and the town win condition.
These weak bits come together to make me feel like you're trying too hard to be the nonchalant townie and fly under the radar while casting shade on nutella.
So, no, I don't like your post. If you had said "no, not alignment indicative" I would have assumed that it was just a post for the sake of posting. But the way you framed your suspicion is sleazy and suspicious.
Yes, part of nutella's post was "obviously lamenting" that mal was town. There was nothing in my post denying that lynching a Civ is bad, or that nutella thought so.
You would prefer that a player always use the third-person "the Civs" rather than "us" unless they're Confirmed Civ?
I agree, these bits are weak. Weak as hell, I dare say! You are so way off, I'm not trying too hard at anything right now. My nonchalance is pure, natural cool, my friend. I haven't seen "under the radar" in a Mafia game since 2012, so nuh-uh... and I would not want to cast shade on the unique and colourful flower that is nutella.
tl;dr "You're way off from the get-go, dude."
I'll respond to the rest of you suckas in separate posts.
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:47 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Well, since you brought it up, it moves the needle two hairs from 'Town' to 'Scum' for nutella, based on the idea that a reaction that doesn't seem quite right to me evokes feelings of possible fakery.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:41 pmnutellaLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pmFor whom?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pmeeegeeggggghhhhh
And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:37 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
For whom?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pmeeegeeggggghhhhh
And do you consider this to be possibly alignment indicative?
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:27 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
For the record, I always considered myself as potentially following a bob lynch, based on a leap of faith in Sloonei's ability... but I never felt my skirt blown up by the case against him.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:46 pm On the Bob thing.
I don't feel anything bad about Bob. But so far I've just read Sloonei's posts and thought "he had a point". I agree with Sloonei's points, but not hard enough to think Bob is definite scum. I'm suspecting Bob by proxy. But I don't want to ISO Bob myself because I'll probably just confirmation bias my way into voting him.
But while I was showering now, I had a thought. It's weird that Sloonei is tunneling so hard on Bob and yet nobody else is caring too much....
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:25 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
I feel like you are treating this additional information, which could be a crucial piece to solving the game and/or nailing down Sloonei's alignment, as a negative. Sure, lynching a Civ is not good, but this knowledge might help us win.
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:47 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Damn, sloonei went from a really Civ read to your worst scum read by the end of that list!
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:44 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Clearly nothing has helped me hunt scum, INH's absence included.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:39 pmit's probable in my head so don't try to dissuade me. Either way, I think someone with 0 posts is a big fat question mark, now or down the road. Civ or mafia, how has INH's presence helped LC hunt scum? Isn't INH a "possible inactive scum"? How can you ever get a town read on INH?
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:43 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 1]
No, I chose sig because someone mentioned him and INH, and it made me want to see what posts they had, if any. Sig had some, so I looked, and saw two things that I thought a scum might do: push a cool-sounding but baseless accuation that someone else made, and pairing a Civ with a baddie teammate.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:33 pmI know you're townie and all, but did you choose sig because he threw some shade your way? You take people suspecting you almost as an automatic sign of scumminess.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm I'd go sig out of the two. I could see him being scum from these selections taken from his 13 posts.
Maybe it's just me, but this "scum slip" was ridiculous, so trying to hearken back to it is fishy.
This "her and JJJ" pairing, for the sin of low-poster chasing. I can see this coming from a mafioso mindset.sig wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:33 am Howdy, sorry for not voting, I'd have gone for Daisy or LC since I didn't really see the case on any player. I'll address Daisy really fast, but first I want to say I really dislike the movement from her and JJJ to go after low posters who are kind off present, but not. I'll be totally honest I'm not very present and I find it odd people expect massive posts thanksgiving weekend. I also didn't expect this game to have 1400+ posts before day 3.
So since no lynches are impossible at this point one of the two, I'm assuming Jack due to vote break down has to be civ? Since mafia doesn't have a lynch survivor. Either way one of the two players should be seen as lock clear civ.
@sig your last post was a week ago, did you forget about the game?
There are a number of people here who have suspected me that I haven't levelled accusations against. Jack was my main suspicion and one of my biggest supporters. Due to the glaring flaws in your assertion, I'm forced to wonder what your motive is. A dunya-sig w/w pairing? Perhaps.
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:35 pm
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- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 1]
I'd go sig out of the two. I could see him being scum from these selections taken from his 13 posts.
[mention]sig[/mention] your last post was a week ago, did you forget about the game?
Maybe it's just me, but this "scum slip" was ridiculous, so trying to hearken back to it is fishy.
This "her and JJJ" pairing, for the sin of low-poster chasing. I can see this coming from a mafioso mindset.sig wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:33 am Howdy, sorry for not voting, I'd have gone for Daisy or LC since I didn't really see the case on any player. I'll address Daisy really fast, but first I want to say I really dislike the movement from her and JJJ to go after low posters who are kind off present, but not. I'll be totally honest I'm not very present and I find it odd people expect massive posts thanksgiving weekend. I also didn't expect this game to have 1400+ posts before day 3.
So since no lynches are impossible at this point one of the two, I'm assuming Jack due to vote break down has to be civ? Since mafia doesn't have a lynch survivor. Either way one of the two players should be seen as lock clear civ.
[mention]sig[/mention] your last post was a week ago, did you forget about the game?
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:50 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 5]
Rumours like that are greatly exaggerated. I've tried one or two zany things, like getting my own team to kill me, but I don't really have a "weird scum game" rep. I've been very good at using a silver tongue to sway the thread to my scum ways in the past, but I don't even think that's the case lately.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:28 pmSomeone who has a longer history with LC can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the underlined is his MO.colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:21 pmLean good, because he's playing the weirdest scum game if he's bad. I'm not putting that past him, based on his apparent reputation here, but that's some heavy tinfoil.
Him listing Jack as his biggest suspect two nights in a row before Jack is killed is one of the biggest reasons I lean town. I can't figure out a motive for that as scum at all. He also questions Epi when Epi said his JJJ vote made him look better, which is mostly a good look (if a bit WIFOM). I wish he had more content in the last few days though.
- Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:30 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
I know malakim from HCRealms, and it would be great to have him over here playing more games. I might have been hesitant to vote him out, but for the fact that he seems to have forgotten about this game. Clearly he's the one, I'll throw my vote on the pile.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:54 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
Long history of calling out dunya as well.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:49 pm Another question for people who are good at analyzing this sort of thing: Why might Jack have been killed? He was still on a lot of people's radar and has been a controversial figure for much of the game.
He was after myself and Quin most recently, as well as malakim.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:29 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
No, seriously, I am not doing anything on purpose. I would so much rather have just been right about everything. And we both know that there's not that much going on in CC123, that I would need to *focus* there and have this be my side game to troll. Mountain Mafia was very exciting to start, after having only CC123 for so long.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:49 pmI feel you. And I think he is being doing it on purpose to makes us confused and avoid being both lynched and NK'd. But that's also something a civ would do. Especially a seasoned civ who is probably more interested in Chicka Chicka so he would come here just to troll us.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:57 am LC is an odd case right now. Still want to gutread him as good. I'm interested in thoughts about how he handled Eloh's read a few posts ago, as well as his readlist that (lol) put Jack as number 1 scumread right before the lynch.
His vote on JJJ, even as he said, looks like posturing but he hasn't taken advantage of it. I think that goes for a lot of current things LC is doing. They look like convenient town or scum tells, but then he keeps hanging lampshades on them. The level of self awareness is throwing me for a wine spiral.
"Actually, my vote on JJJ was worthless"
"I don't know why you're defending me Eloh"
"readlist with Jack as bad RIGHT BEFORE jack dies"
Feels weird. Super honest with a smashing of wine. I keep writing "gut says town" on this post but I'm not sure what my gut says beyond "Urgh I feel terrible."
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:20 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
Fortunately for you, I no longer believe in myself.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:13 amI don't know, I might be giving you a run for your money.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:11 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
That is a totally understandable feeling. I have have been as crappy as possible this entire game, it seems. You probably should lynch dunya and DDL, because they're some of my greenest reads.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:57 am LC is an odd case right now. Still want to gutread him as good. I'm interested in thoughts about how he handled Eloh's read a few posts ago, as well as his readlist that (lol) put Jack as number 1 scumread right before the lynch.
His vote on JJJ, even as he said, looks like posturing but he hasn't taken advantage of it. I think that goes for a lot of current things LC is doing. They look like convenient town or scum tells, but then he keeps hanging lampshades on them. The level of self awareness is throwing me for a wine spiral.
"Actually, my vote on JJJ was worthless"
"I don't know why you're defending me Eloh"
"readlist with Jack as bad RIGHT BEFORE jack dies"
Feels weird. Super honest with a smashing of wine. I keep writing "gut says town" on this post but I'm not sure what my gut says beyond "Urgh I feel terrible."
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:32 am
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- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Also, I have grey eyes.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:30 amDoes hazel just count as Brown/Blue/Green to some people?
https://www.edow.com/general-eye-care/eyecolor/
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:28 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
"Odd" I will not deny.
Linki: whatcha mean, speedster?
Linki: whatcha mean, speedster?
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:04 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
How is ignorance of the nightkill mechanic alignment indicative at all?
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:37 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
I don't really see how my JJJ vote makes me look any better.
I didn't vote him during his lynch. I voted him the day before, at the last second, when it wasn't even going to kill him. And by my clock, I actually missed the deadline and had my vote on Mesk, as I said. When JJJ actually went down, I did nothing to help that happen. I voted my old suspicion Speedchuck, and I think that when I left my vote on speedy and went to bed, it tied him up with JJJ, or possibly someone else who was a contender that day... I think the JJJ thing only took off after I went to bed, when Epi came in to push it. Yeah that's how I remember it. After I expressed suspicion that Epi was holding back his vote in order to have some baddie control over the lynch.
So, how does that make me look any better to you? To YOU, who have been nipping at me all game... this information (did I use it right?) should, by rights, be shaping up into a nice little case against me. And yet, when the brass ring is within your grasp, you pull a 180 on it.
What gives? Are you bad?
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:08 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 5]
It's not something you're going to end up being proud of. Unless you're bad, of course.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:19 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Ha! I copied your name list, forgot to add you. Light green for you.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:15 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Long Con
dunya
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Quin
Kylemii
DrWilgy
Elohcin
insertnamehere
nutella
sig
malakim2099
colonialbob
speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005
dunya
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy
Quin
Kylemii
DrWilgy
Elohcin
insertnamehere
nutella
sig
malakim2099
colonialbob
speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:37 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Hey, that's cool. I remember when I switched to Jay that I was surprised that Mesk had so many votes. I was also surprised because by my clock, the poll had ended. I went to look at the ended poll, and saw I could still change my vote. I was like "WTF?" and switched to Jay. I double checked the end time and then went to the Main Page and compared the forum clock to my computer clock, and saw they were a couple of minutes off somehow.
Then the poll ended and went down in history. But the real truth is that by my clock, my vote ended up on Mesk. Analyze that, suckas!
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:26 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
I still really want to lynch Jack. I need to reevaluate my reads, I'll try to rainbow up a list to recall where I stand. I know I've been quiet; I've been doing a lot more reading than writing because of priorities that trump deep Mafia play. Most of my opinions are going to be based on whose cases and analyses I believe in the most, as opposed to my own ventures. I know that makes me not as good as most of you, and I do feel shame about it. It's just hard to avoid right now.
Good news is that I finally, tonight, about an hour ago, finished recarpeting our open-riser winder stairs. Now I have to move on to sanding all the baseboards before painting them white and putting them back on the walls. We're hosting a Christmas party on Dec 10 and certain upgrades needed to be made to the house. And those damn stairs took so much longer than I wanted them to.
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:08 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
The purpose of that was presumably to crank up the heat on it at some point if necessary? Or to support some players' latent suspicion of me so that they would feel more confident coming after me?
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:00 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 3]
Do you really want me to respond to the inspiration thing? 'Cause you aren't understanding it.
- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:58 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
What's not adding up? I cast a vote for the guy because I preferred it... based mostly on what Epi was saying as I recall.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:56 pm...Actually, in your words, you didn't recall adopting the JJJ suspicion... at all. You didn't specify "early" as what you were denying. But you voted for JJJ on day 3 when I encouraged people to switch to him at the end, and yet you never said anything about suspecting JJJ before or after that and you voted for speed on day 4. Something's not adding up here.
- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:57 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Well, I never campaigned to get JJJ lynched; he wasn't a suspect of mine. I voted for him in the last few minutes because I liked it better in the end than the vote-for-low-poster choice (Dom/Mesk).
- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:52 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:51 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Yeah, I changed to JJJ in the last couple of minutes of that lynch. Wilgy called me an early adopter of the JJJ suspicion, which wasn't true.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:11 pm I'm going to leave Kylemii alone to let him do his thing. I think we tangled enough and got off on a damn tangent, and I respect his resoluteness even if we disagree on certain things. I do want to hear other people's opinions about my grievances though.
Moving on.
Somebody read this whole exchange. Now look at the below:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:07 pmDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 pmYou right. Idk what made me think you agreed with it. Bad feeling about LC absolved.
The hell?JaggedJimmyJa
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Voters: Epignosis, nutella, Long Con
- Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:48 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Do what you must. There's no way I'm voting for you tomorrow.
- Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:07 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 pmYou right. Idk what made me think you agreed with it. Bad feeling about LC absolved.
- Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:44 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
- Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:37 pm
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
I don't recall adopting the JJJ suspicion. Are you sure your memories of that are accurate?
- Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:39 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Good job, Civs! Hopefully this will lead to total game solving.
- Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:11 am
- Forum: Previous Side Missions
- Topic: Mountain Mafia [END]
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]
Took a final look at vote tally. Epignosis is here. Hasn't weighed in or voted yet. Planning to vote late to have the most control over the lynch?