The Syndicate

lol im voting with pyxxy i dont super love that

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (3): Hally (18), Vivax (18), Jackofhearts2005 (51)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (90)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (30)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
vivax (1): santygrass (79)
neon (1): Seanzie (96)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:16 pm Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?
i talked about his treatment of me earlier too

like he expressed some reason he thought i *could* be wolfing but clarified that he still thinks i'm probably town and it kind of felt like papering over tmi and/or testing the water on if i'm pushable bc a couple others have sussed me
Wolf Jack wouldn’t even have tmi and I wasn’t stating a certainty on anything so what are you even on about?

what? it's still tmi that im not wolf even if you dont know for sure im a player lol thats a weird thing to be hung up on

it's..the way you went about talking about me was strange? because you kinda harped on what miiiiiiight be poteeeeeentially wolfy for me but kept insisting you still think i'm town and it just came across a bit slimey idk

i think we should let it rand between 5 wagons obviously

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:16 pm Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?

i talked about his treatment of me earlier too

like he expressed some reason he thought i *could* be wolfing but clarified that he still thinks i'm probably town and it kind of felt like papering over tmi and/or testing the water on if i'm pushable bc a couple others have sussed me

i'm almost top poster today but of all people to beat me it's seanzie loool

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:13 pm Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (82)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)

lol this wagon spread tho

Manny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:12 pm @Manny you have to at least set previous eod/sod so it doesn't count votes from before
oh lemme check doing that

look at the image i pasted a few posts ago and use those post nums for d1-4

that should be right

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (91), santygrass (74)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (82)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (26)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (49)

wait it just decided to work all of a sudden

i changed nothing lol it just posted this time

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6540

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (11), Porscha (23)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (17)
vivax (2): Seanzie (90), santygrass (73)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (77)
schiavetto (2): DrWilgy (23), Inawordyes (77)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
manny (1): Manny (23)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
ilario (1): Michelle (37)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (46)

but how did you get it to post anything at all aaaaa

@Manny you have to at least set previous eod/sod so it doesn't count votes from before

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:08 pm If only someone could think of a way to count votes at the top of the page in an easy to find place that didn’t require a plug-in

honestly yeah theres few enough people in thread that we could use a poll now @MacDougall lol

i wont even have my computer over christmas so if i live that long (god forbid) i wont be able to help

nope still nothing

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:09 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:08 pm

@Lumi i have this but clicking post vc (either the eod5 one or the top button) doesn't do anything, what am i missing
Try adding the current post number instead of the 0 for the EoD5 postnumber.

i thought they said to leave it as 0 but ill try

@Lumi i have this but clicking post vc (either the eod5 one or the top button) doesn't do anything, what am i missing

yeah you have to set eods, i put stuff in so it should be on day 5 but i still can't get it to post

hmm yeah can't get it quite working

oh wait how do i set the days

Nvm I think i got it

I'm going to resist installing the thing as long as I can (read: if lumi dies before me I will try)

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm Also, EoD is in 1 hour 10 minutes?

2, it's been at 7pm est

Manny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm @nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.

ooooof okay. yeah im concerned now thank you

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:35 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:32 pm I am going back and forth on what that means for Falcon, I’ve already stated earlier that I think it delves more into the side of “TMI spewing Falcon mafia bevause you’re also mafia so your confidence is because you know and you can’t know unless you are mafia”, but I can ofc see it both ways
meh it's possible
It feels like pulling teeth trying to get you to engage with me here, that’s a really sucky feeling when I’m genuinely trying to solve and level with you on something we both agree about

was more referring to this post

i'm engaging with your process as best i can on my own terms, not sure what's so frustrating about it other than i just don't have very strong reads atm

like i usually have a few "if x flips town, then y, if wolf, then z" chains in my head but they don't go past that step, i don't plan every possible scenario out

i'm sorry i think the way you think through things just doesn't really mesh with mine

i'm not that methodical i'm a vibes player

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:55 pm I’ll go even further down that trek - Sean said earlier that he thinks there’s a good chance that Iawy/Santy could be W/V, and in the V!Santy world, me pushing on Santy’s vote in this scenario is scummy opportunism. If Falcon is town and Santy is town (and/or Jack), then does that affect your townread on me? If yes, then does it affect your scumlean-ish read on Sean for calling out the situation?

I do find it interesting that you seemingly thought Sean’s reasonings for scum reading Santy were better than mine, and yet you’re down on Sean over his while still townreading me as “that silly goober Iawy, he makes no sense sometimes”

i'm pretty solid on you town regardless

and i don't think i ever said i scumlean seanzie, i don't think i do in most scenarios actually

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:51 pm In a T-T world (or even a T-T-T where both of them + Santy are town), where does that put things?

then i prob go back to neon?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:51 pm There’s also the fourth option, where Jack is genuinely confident in his solve - but Falcon is also town.

and that's included in the same scenario where i said nothing about falcon's alignment if jack is town

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:51 pm why is Jack being town with genuine confidence in his solve the least-likely of the three?

no that's 3 which is second most

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:35 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:32 pm I am going back and forth on what that means for Falcon, I’ve already stated earlier that I think it delves more into the side of “TMI spewing Falcon mafia bevause you’re also mafia so your confidence is because you know and you can’t know unless you are mafia”, but I can ofc see it both ways
meh it's possible
It feels like pulling teeth trying to get you to engage with me here, that’s a really sucky feeling when I’m genuinely trying to solve and level with you on something we both agree about

i am engaging?? i am just extremely waffly and unsure of what i believe at the moment i'm sorry

but i guess my personal ranking of those is currently 2>3>1?? idk

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:39 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:21 pmIt’s like [Jack is] absolutely convinced that Falcon is mafia to the point where [Jack] [knows] Falcon is mafia. The scout to my understanding is basically just an “NPC or Player” cop, so there is no way as town that [Jack] can know that Falcon is mafia; the only way that [Jack] can know that Falcon is mafia is if [Jack is] also mafia

The confidence [Jack has] in this read being correct is way too high. So either [Jack and Falcon are] both [mafia] together, or [Jack’s] manufacturing the confidence to justify pushing Falcon. That makes [Jack] look extremely scummy
If I insert Jack’s name into this comment from earlier, does it make sense to you and/or is something that you can find agreement with as far as the situation goes wrt to own read on Jack in this scenario?

i can see it either way

i guess that is, either of three ways
he's mafia with falcon
he's mafia pushing town falcon
he's town with genuine confidence falcon is a hit

i know this isn't helpful lol

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:32 pm I am going back and forth on what that means for Falcon, I’ve already stated earlier that I think it delves more into the side of “TMI spewing Falcon mafia bevause you’re also mafia so your confidence is because you know and you can’t know unless you are mafia”, but I can ofc see it both ways

meh it's possible

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:30 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:27 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:25 pm So the next logical step in the mental chain Nutella, using Sean’s #3 as a slight bolstering effect, is that if we agree that in broad strokes there’s direct mafia influence in Falcon’s wagon, then is that good or bad for Falcon?
if i accept that premise and sean's premises then falcon is somewhat more likely to be town yes

the thing is i am still going back and forth a bit on jack

but at this moment i am leaning jack wolf falcon town

not enough to fight the falcon wagon particularly
If you take Sean’s case out of the equation and stick solely to “I believe there is a mafia on Falcon’s wagon, faking confidence in a scumread to justify their vote there”, does it still make Falcon look more like town getting pushed or does it make Falcon look more like mafia getting bussed?

i lean the former? maybe?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:25 pm So the next logical step in the mental chain Nutella, using Sean’s #3 as a slight bolstering effect, is that if we agree that in broad strokes there’s direct mafia influence in Falcon’s wagon, then is that good or bad for Falcon?

if i accept that premise and sean's premises then falcon is somewhat more likely to be town yes

the thing is i am still going back and forth a bit on jack

but at this moment i am leaning jack wolf falcon town

not enough to fight the falcon wagon particularly

but yeah reasonable process lol

i dont give a shit about spew i give a shit about flipping wolves

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:10 pm But it’s like I see Wilgy get super heavily pushed and only not die because of NPCs causing a tie, and then nobody wants to push Wilgy anymore. And now the same thing is happening with Neon where she got pushed pretty heavily yesterday, didn’t die, and today nobody wants to push in that direction

yeah i just have this problem where i feel they're townie whenever they post wowee

i just don't think santy is faking confidence and his thought process of using jack's confidence to bolster his read rang 1000% genuine to me because I had pretty much the same process while reading back (just with that twinge of doubt about jack that is now growing again)

1) yeah thats fair about neon, i shouldn't be dismissing her as a wagon so easily

2) i somewhat acknowledge the irony/parallel i guess but it doesn't change the fact that santy made perfect sense lol

i guess i don't necessarily think sean is wolfy for it i just don't get it lol

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:35 pm like im starting to see falcon could be town with some of his posts but the firmness with which you have been fighting this wagon is incomprehensible
I had looked at that as well, but Sean has been playing with me a bit lately, and he's getting more familiar with my tone.

the bewildering thing though is he kept saying like he hadn't actually found you town particularly and more just wanted to give you time to show if you are town but that uncertainty didn't show in his responses to votes on you

like im starting to see falcon could be town with some of his posts but the firmness with which you have been fighting this wagon is incomprehensible

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:22 pm ive mindmelded with like almost all of santy's posts in the last few pages and iawy's position is utterly baffling to me lol
What about my position?

the hard defending falcon for completely indecipherable reasons? yeah no youre gonna have to help me out there

all circles presuppose they'll end where they begin but only in their leaving can they ever come back round

brain go round and round

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