The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:14 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:10 am imagine if alison is town:

ur mafia. u see her softing KP. u let her shoot her shot (pyxxy). you dont kill her. u dont roleblock her. u just completely leave her alone

dont track. alison = 100% confirmed mafia
hmm

worth entertaining yeah. also MR was a better candidate for her to shoot so maybe paired

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:10 am imagine if alison is town:

ur mafia. u see her softing KP. u let her shoot her shot (pyxxy). you dont kill her. u dont roleblock her. u just completely leave her alone

dont track. alison = 100% confirmed mafia

hmm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:09 am I've tried to help with some reevals on Lily and Michelle but it seems nobody sees what I'm seeing there

Actually you've gotten me to second guess my quick townsort on Michelle. I think she's more in her town meta than not but perhaps not out of wolf range and I'm open to scrutinizing there

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:07 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:03 am I actually cannot be this wrong as mafia I get trapped into tmi too easily.
As mafia, are you more wont to bus or defend teammates…or outright ignore them, do you think?

I think I usually do at least some bussing/distancing as well as ignoring and more to the point have a hard time keeping up fake pushes on town

Like I'll be real this week is my 10 year anniversary with my bf and I already have a huge guilt complex about spending too much time on the internet and not with him so I'mma just post what I want when I want.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:01 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:00 am And I was definitely not a bystander at eod, I pushed hard for cape, you were there???
No you were not a bystander in the context of the end of day yesterday that was a terrible outcome for town, that observation was more of a description of how you've been on day 2, when we need people to actually help us catch back up. You know, the scenario in which said observation would actually be a sensible one to make.

Well I was multitasking and perpetually behind for the first few hours of d2 and have only really had the chance to post reactively. I've given takes where I have them but will flesh out reads when I have more time k.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:57 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:56 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:39 am I'd like to point out that I don't think Nutella has been anywhere close to her obvious high wim driving herself bananas town self at all at any stage of this game.
Like this is so cringe lol. I'm not super high wim because I'm fucking tired and busy irl and dont give a shit about mafia anymore but even with that I've still been pretty goddamn obvtown and you saw it clearly at eod and called me lock town at some point and youre just glossing over it now?
Yes because I am reevaluating this dumb game in light of it being a stomp. Do you have a problem with me reevaluating this game?

I have a problem with your huge double standard re sabi spew

I actually cannot be this wrong as mafia I get trapped into tmi too easily.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:54 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:48 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:46 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:38 am 112
Alison
Dyslexicon
Guillotine
Kate
Nutella
Party Crasher
S~V~S
Seanzie
Sloonei

I would much appreciate anyone who townreads the above names giving light to why. I have no interest in "vibes" or other such answers. I want real tangible line in the sand answers please. Or if you are in this list, please show me where you think you've been town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:39 am I'd like to point out that I don't think Nutella has been anywhere close to her obvious high wim driving herself bananas town self at all at any stage of this game.
Nutella is the one I'd clear from that list. (I've liked Sloonei's day this phase so far but not enough to remove him from sus-lists.)

But I'll admit I'm not familiar with Nut's play thaaaat much.

I'll throw together the posts/reasons that made me think Nut town tho.
Please do because from my vantage point she is not out of her wolf range in the slightest because her townrange is "compulsively solves the game in such a way as to make herself a huge threat to the mafia and becomes a focal point of every game she is town in" and I don't think that applies at all here. At this point I would have expected town Nutella to have some very strong perspectives and for them to be quite clear, but I don't have that. She feels like a bystander, in a game that had two town wagons day 1.
I don’t feel like she’s a bystander at all actually.

I feel like she’s made some very confident reads that have all been wrong. If I recall, ‘Cape is wolf’ ‘pyxxy is wolf’ ‘iawy is wolf’ ‘Scotty is wolf’

Does that make her bad? No, town is wrong a lot…but it’s almost like she’s just slinging mud to whatever will stick. And her track record thus far in this game…is not good.
Sorry but that is actually a bystander when you consider what town Nutella usually is. Hurling out hot take reads with no basis that all end up wrong is essentially outing for nutella.

This is just wrong lol you have seen me play in the last year post-giving-a-shit and you are just describing my town meta

And I was definitely not a bystander at eod, I pushed hard for cape, you were there???

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:48 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:46 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:38 am 112
Alison
Dyslexicon
Guillotine
Kate
Nutella
Party Crasher
S~V~S
Seanzie
Sloonei

I would much appreciate anyone who townreads the above names giving light to why. I have no interest in "vibes" or other such answers. I want real tangible line in the sand answers please. Or if you are in this list, please show me where you think you've been town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:39 am I'd like to point out that I don't think Nutella has been anywhere close to her obvious high wim driving herself bananas town self at all at any stage of this game.
Nutella is the one I'd clear from that list. (I've liked Sloonei's day this phase so far but not enough to remove him from sus-lists.)

But I'll admit I'm not familiar with Nut's play thaaaat much.

I'll throw together the posts/reasons that made me think Nut town tho.
Please do because from my vantage point she is not out of her wolf range in the slightest because her townrange is "compulsively solves the game in such a way as to make herself a huge threat to the mafia and becomes a focal point of every game she is town in" and I don't think that applies at all here. At this point I would have expected town Nutella to have some very strong perspectives and for them to be quite clear, but I don't have that. She feels like a bystander, in a game that had two town wagons day 1.

Ive had some pretty damn strong perspectives if you actually read my posts it's just that theyve also 180ed a few times

Like I highposted plenty d1 and have given plenty of takes and free flowing back and forth thoughts that are out of my wolf range, I'm not doing high effort posts because the game is huge, you know how I operate man cmon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:39 am I'd like to point out that I don't think Nutella has been anywhere close to her obvious high wim driving herself bananas town self at all at any stage of this game.

Like this is so cringe lol. I'm not super high wim because I'm fucking tired and busy irl and dont give a shit about mafia anymore but even with that I've still been pretty goddamn obvtown and you saw it clearly at eod and called me lock town at some point and youre just glossing over it now?

@MacDougall the longer you ignore that im top town the more sus you are. you were literally looking at sabi spew and ender quoted where sabi spewed me and you acted like it didnt exist

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:55 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:52 am [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names. it's a bad sign, tbh.
This applies to a bunch of people. Lily and dizzy, off the top of my head. These people aren't being included in lists because they aren't posting

lily and dizzy have at least been mentioned a couple times since sod to remind me of their existence

idk it's probably nothing and i thought sean was ok when they were posting

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:52 am
Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:50 am Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?
I thought about it and I don’t think so.

I’m operating under the assumption there’s only one.

The flavor of that role could literally be a meme. Or that sabi was the one responsible for the soup kill. But I could be wrong.

whats making me second guess is at the beginning of the night post nanook revealed alignments first and then roles, and sabi's alignment was "soup mafia" not just "mafia"

ok well now i am questioning that haha

oh wait i see what you mean

like "the mafia that has soup" as an alignment in the flip

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:50 am Question for the crowd:

Does specifying “soup mafia” on a vanilla role imply two teams or not?

i have no idea what it means but you seem really fixated on the two mafias thing which i think other wording in the op makes unlikely

tbh if literally no one has mentioned seanzie in all the random lists of names is that a bad sign

i forgot seanzie was playing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:47 am Someone pick a name for me to put my vote on, please.

pedro

oh but sod was 2 hours late

ok fair ig

tbf tutuu and dz were the only ones posting and are both euro (though tutuu has weird hours and was here at sod d1 so shouldve shown up smh)

They ghostin

Where is @Party Crasher

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:29 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:13 am Oh right there's S~V~S too

S~V~S is a hard null but like hard nulls are likely to be wolves because that's usually where wolves are

what does this reacc mean

they add an underappreciated crunch factor to many dishes

also dont forget radishes

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:26 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:25 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:22 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:21 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:16 am Y'all just playing decentralized gtg?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:17 amGth*
no, rondo is playing "look busy while everyone else gives reads so he knows where the danger is"
but that's a surprise tool that can help us later.
who are my partners?
I've never been one to care about partners. I'm saying you're doing a lot of busywork while many others are supplying reads and talking about the game you're asking potshot questions that thus far don't appear to be going anywhere.

Should they appear to go somewhere I'll retract that statement. Till then I'm very comfortable making it and standing by it.
Thats fair, its going somewhere thats why I want you to ISO

In fact I want everyones opinion on Sloonie / Kate / SVS and Wilgy / Urist / Ender

sloonei still very slight town lean but pretty close to null
kate town
svs the most extremely null slot in the game which is probably actually a wolf lean (someone i think creature said something to that effect and i agree)
wilgy town
urist town
ender is schrodingers alignment

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:22 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:07 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:06 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:16 pm Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): "Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody
There's probably one each on Dennis and me I guess? I dunno this isn't actually as helpful looking end of day wagon.
Mac look at Rondo for me pls
Also I think Scotty looks bad now for shooting a loverizer with the probability to take you down as well
Mac never loved iawy
Mafia! you wouldn't know it
…neither would Town! me

lmao i totally didnt understand that michelle post and read "mafia! you wouldn't know it" as a phrase like panic! at the disco

i like filling out surveys keep em coming

tumblr polls are consuming my life

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:21 am lets play a game, who is more wolfy?
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Urist, Golden - golden

Guillotine, Kate - Kate

Alison, RondoDimBuckle - Rondo

EnderWiggin, Creature - Creature

hollowkatt, Michelle, nutella - HK

Scotty, DrWilgy, Neon - Scotty

golden

really neither lol

alison maybe but prob neither

ender

hk

scotty

Y'all just playing decentralized gtg?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:52 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:32 pm Alright Golden you were right that everyone getting pushed yesterday was town so tell us who the wolves are cuz you have the best reads
I told you yesterday the two shitty wolf things that were happening

The push on Kate
The ‘too many people to make reads’

Guillo fits both. I think he’s wolf.

I also think the case on cape was shit and I need to look back at whose case was the worst, especially anyone pushing the ‘hunting for 3p is wolfy’ line that is just never true.
Without deep diving I'd say Rask and Marmot were most cause of the cape wagon?

Ender catalyzed it most which is why I want to evaluate him today

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:21 pm @Inawordyes has died, he flips TOWN:

**Love Is In The Air**

This game starts the day after Valentine's day now, so it's probably in a few other things too ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

Anyways on d1, pick someone to be your lover. You'll receive a chat with them on n1 and d2. By EOD2 you may decide to Get Engaged or Break Up. If you Break Up, you can pick a new lover to have a hood with for n2 and d3. If you Get Engaged you have a hood with the same person for n2 and d3.

On d3:

If you Broke Up, you have the option to Break Up or Get Married--a d3 Break Up will kill your current lover, and you may choose a new one for n3/d4. If you Get Married, see Married section.

If you Broke Up on D3 and chose a new lover, on D4 you will have the choice to Break Up again, killing your lover, or Get Married to your lover. You may not take a new lover, even if you Break Up.

Married section: if you Get Married, you will not be allowed to take any new lovers, and if either you or your lover die you will both die. However you will receive a 24/7 hood for the rest of the game, and you have a 50% chance to receive an alignment check on them.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ Alison
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Golden
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ Kate
@ Lilypetal
@ MacDougall
@ Marmot
@ master radishes
@ Michelle
@ Neon
@ Nutella
@ Party Crasher
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ S~V~S
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ Urist

F

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

With iawy town I think his insight on Scotty is very very worth following
oh come off it nutella. You wanted iawy just as dead as I did.

Pot meet kettle

I voted you at day open and the main thing that gave me pause on iawy was his stuff about you which I agreed with

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:30 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?
I was gifted that shot from someone. Did you give that to me?

Otherwise I forgot to use my ability, however unbelievable and stupid that sounds. I misread my role.

Hrm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:24 pm Scotty looks real bad atm

Nvm I'm back to thinking this idk why I assumed otherwise

Something vibe tell something dodged early sus into v/v/v wagons something figured hea toast soon anyway and gets the free kill off on iawy in the open

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:14 pm sure if iawy is town we'll take the free pelt that is scotty

Lmao ok maybe

I'm so confused rn should come back when I can focus

sig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:40 pm Unless we assume Scotty and the entire mafia team weren’t paying attention to the thread I don’t see why a mafia scotty would’ve shot IAWY right now.

Yeah I mean possible he just decided to "out"/sac himself but I think it's prolly just a town shot

Ehhhh

I keep changing my mind lol

Creature town for that maybe

Look ma I accidentally did a reaction test

[VOTE: party crasher ] aubergine

Idfk lol

Lmao sorry I'm multitasking haha

Scotty killed him didn't he

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:21 pm @Inawordyes has died, he flips TOWN:

**Love Is In The Air**

This game starts the day after Valentine's day now, so it's probably in a few other things too ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

Anyways on d1, pick someone to be your lover. You'll receive a chat with them on n1 and d2. By EOD2 you may decide to Get Engaged or Break Up. If you Break Up, you can pick a new lover to have a hood with for n2 and d3. If you Get Engaged you have a hood with the same person for n2 and d3.

On d3:

If you Broke Up, you have the option to Break Up or Get Married--a d3 Break Up will kill your current lover, and you may choose a new one for n3/d4. If you Get Married, see Married section.

If you Broke Up on D3 and chose a new lover, on D4 you will have the choice to Break Up again, killing your lover, or Get Married to your lover. You may not take a new lover, even if you Break Up.

Married section: if you Get Married, you will not be allowed to take any new lovers, and if either you or your lover die you will both die. However you will receive a 24/7 hood for the rest of the game, and you have a 50% chance to receive an alignment check on them.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ Alison
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Golden
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ Kate
@ Lilypetal
@ MacDougall
@ Marmot
@ master radishes
@ Michelle
@ Neon
@ Nutella
@ Party Crasher
@ Porscha
@ RondoDimBuckle
@ S~V~S
@ Scotty
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ Urist

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[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

With iawy town I think his insight on Scotty is very very worth following

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:33 pm Yeah IAWY is almost certainly mafia but lynching IAWY today most likely means Mac dies too

Why do I have deja vu lol

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:29 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:26 pm I gotta go but I'm just going to park my vote on golden since any other exe is going to be suboptimal atm
I kinda think with Cape being town and iawy being very likely wolf that Golden was townsiding hard last EOD and am thus inclined to give him space
show why
1) Cape and IAWY competing wagons
2) Assuming Cape town IAWY mafia
3) Golden tried very hard to get people to move from Cape to IAWY
4) This is townie

No he didn't??

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