The Syndicate

No, I have no night action. I don't know why I received the info, prob just someone with one of those mystery-gift abilities.

Oh I'm not dead ok

I have a bit of a quandary and should probably just lay it out

In the night I received info that a certain person is someone I can target and successfully kill in the day. However as we know I do not know their alignment and could end up killing town. I personally think that I should just go for it as I think it's more likely they are mafia, but if it ends up they're town I think that pretty much brings us to mylo and we'd want to sleep the vote in that case. I'm willing to hear input on this before I just toss out a hero shot lol.

Yeet your vegetables

I do think Quin was townier than TH in thread

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:49 pm TH/quin fine either way. I think TH is more likely a hit.

This

[VOTE: TH] aubergine

TH vote alison with me or I vote you

That's a spicy thought I'm having

It's you that TH tried to bus, huh Alison?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:21 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:17 pm I'm sorry but I refuse to believe nanook put two out of (presumably) four mafia in the out of thread gang and didn't bring them back after we killed two mafia d1

if the d2 thread was pure I'm never playing a nanook game again

There are like 3 people in this thread that were in D2. I'm betting they're pure. Now, it's my fault for locking up Alison if Alison's a wolf and it's Marmot's fault for not pulling them back but D2 thread could easily have been pure.

Also, Marmot could have pulled us back into the thread on D2. He could do it anytime between phases.

hmmmmm potentially spicy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:17 pm I'm sorry but I refuse to believe nanook put two out of (presumably) four mafia in the out of thread gang and didn't bring them back after we killed two mafia d1

if the d2 thread was pure I'm never playing a nanook game again

There are like 3 people in this thread that were in D2. I'm betting they're pure. Now, it's my fault for locking up Alison if Alison's a wolf and it's Marmot's fault for not pulling them back but D2 thread could easily have been pure.

okay maybe


there being a lost wolf makes this all p messy and I can see ways having 2 maf in punk chat makes sense sorry o great nanook i trust your logic

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:19 pm nutella is right though that it would be super weird for nook to just let everyone in the thread be town in d2

maybe we have to explore 4 mafia + 1 lost wolf theories? town seems to have a lot of KP (nutella, mac, FG's role seemed to imply she could beat up some mafia as well) to compensate for it

I guessss it's possible

Unless we think there's 4 factional mafia plus a lost wolf, but I think 3+1 makes more balance sense but idk this setup is weird on a lot of levels and I'm bad at thinking about this stuff

I'm sorry but I refuse to believe nanook put two out of (presumably) four mafia in the out of thread gang and didn't bring them back after we killed two mafia d1

if the d2 thread was pure I'm never playing a nanook game again

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:07 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:06 pm Wait.... WAIT.... I THINK I GET WHAT TONY IS SAYING NOW ABOUT THE RB!!!

There can be MORE than one wolf in punk chat, and if this is the case, Marmot is always town here! Because that would balance out the wolves almost having majority over punk chat!!!

huh

idk i'd be pretty surprised if there were 2 wolves in the original 4? bc that would imply d2 in main thread had zero mafia which...no

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:04 pm what if TL was the lost wolf who angled for a roleblock on himself because he was afraid of the punk chat roleblocking the mafia?

and if he's lost he wouldn't know who his mafia buddy was which means that any roleblock could potentially be disastrous, except on himself, the one person he knows isn't performing the nightkill

hmmmmmmmm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:02 pm yuck

unfortunately I sort of believe that TL legitimately believes that mafia controls the roleblock just due to the way that they're arguing for it

so if they're mafia they're TMI-ing that mafia does control the roleblock and if they're town they just didn't think it true

well I think most of us read FG's role as answering that question though I guess it's not definitive

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:02 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:00 pm It's weird to me that Marmot didn't reveal that he was the one who controlled that.

In addition to the stuff I said previously about Marmot, I also don't feel like he acted as a good mouth piece for punk chat. o:

that's fair, he was pretty cagey, but I think that may be chalked up to his personality/style

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:00 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:57 pm the fact that TL didn't think about how much that doesn't make sense makes me think he's probably just town lmao

it makes sense in my head

it doesn't. if you guys correctly suspected someone and tried to block them the mafia in your group would just always prevent it if that was the case and you would never be able to have a positive effect on the game. it's fucking nonsensical

you forget: there's a lost wolf and multiple day threads. There are multiple ways to orient it so that it makes sense.

It also makes zero sense if TL is a wolf, right?

oh yeah lost wolf


hrm

TL is just town lol

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:57 pm the fact that TL didn't think about how much that doesn't make sense makes me think he's probably just town lmao

it makes sense in my head

it doesn't. if you guys correctly suspected someone and tried to block them the mafia in your group would just always prevent it if that was the case and you would never be able to have a positive effect on the game. it's fucking nonsensical

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] vote alison with me lel

the fact that TL didn't think about how much that doesn't make sense makes me think he's probably just town lmao

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:55 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:54 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:28 pm Not confirmed as
A) Has a chance not to work.
B) You couuld have a different mafia carry the kill as you are in a chat and another mafia carrys it.

TL if you acknowledge that you know B) then why were you trying to get yourself cleared by having the punk gang roleblock you

were you trying to go for a cheap townclear

Naw i just didn't want to sstop a town menber.

I was the first to vote and honestly outside the group was unsure of stuff.
And if mafia controled if it worked or not best choice is someone with out a power action and thouse not losing power on a towny

why not angle for a roleblock on whoever you suspected the most strongly in punk chat rather than yourself? if your opinion is that the people in the thread are so townie that you'd be scared of roleblocking a townie if you fire into them, why not block someone in the punk chat you suspected?

CAUSE I WAS THINKING MAFIA CONTROLS IF IT WORKS OR NOT.

that makes zero sense

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:54 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:28 pm Not confirmed as
A) Has a chance not to work.
B) You couuld have a different mafia carry the kill as you are in a chat and another mafia carrys it.

TL if you acknowledge that you know B) then why were you trying to get yourself cleared by having the punk gang roleblock you

were you trying to go for a cheap townclear

Naw i just didn't want to sstop a town menber.

I was the first to vote and honestly outside the group was unsure of stuff.
And if mafia controled if it worked or not best choice is someone with out a power action and thouse not losing power on a towny

why not angle for a roleblock on whoever you suspected the most strongly in punk chat rather than yourself? if your opinion is that the people in the thread are so townie that you'd be scared of roleblocking a townie if you fire into them, why not block someone in the punk chat you suspected?

yeah

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:54 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:50 pm rip me

I said to consolidate but I'm not a big fan of the quin wagon and there's no other wagon to consolidate to

is there anyone here who has interest in a TL exe

tony why is TL not in your POE

I think TL is town. My POE is probably better expressed as

TOWN:
me
nutella
hyena

OK:
TL
Quin
Marmot
Alison

HMM:
TH

I'm unsure on TH but what makes me lean town on them is their theory about Alison deepwolfing. I don't think a wolf tries to go for that regardless of Alison's alignment, and I think it's way more likely that TH just believes it (and may be right).

like, that was your group's way of affecting the game if you felt you had a suspect you might as well try and RB, why not try to do it

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:28 pm Not confirmed as
A) Has a chance not to work.
B) You couuld have a different mafia carry the kill as you are in a chat and another mafia carrys it.

TL if you acknowledge that you know B) then why were you trying to get yourself cleared by having the punk gang roleblock you

were you trying to go for a cheap townclear

Naw i just didn't want to sstop a town menber.

I was the first to vote and honestly outside the group was unsure of stuff.
And if mafia controled if it worked or not best choice is someone with out a power action and thouse not losing power on a towny

nice crosspost

ok this is about the explanation I expected but it's still odd to me

TL please explain the thing about you wanting to block yourself. I mostly townread you atm but that thing is just weird.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:45 pm Okay but TL has legitimately only shown up to defend himself while making a big deal out of how nutella could be scum and then voting Quin

fair

[VOTE: alison] aubergine


this is dumb but I think alison deepwolf world actually just makes this game make way more sense on a lot of levels

it's like similar to the feeling both thunal and I had in grasslands when we realized that spf being wolf made stuff fit together


idk maybe im dumb

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:41 pm I don't know what you guys are seeing about TL's entrance that makes you want to clear him

not clear, I just think it looks more like genuine thoughts but definitely could be mafia

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:40 pm Marmot has been too weird to be a wolf. Why did he pull people back into the thread, why wasn't he more open about his ability while he was here? Besides, the LC/Vul interactions look pretty solid both ways. I want explanation from Marmot about why he did the things he chose to do, but if he's a wolf I don't really understand his choices.

hm yeah the mech stuff does seem unlikely to be a wolf role i guess is a hangup i have

like I had marmot as towny d1/d2 i guess but eh

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:38 pmok why marmot

Who are you asking? Me, or TSP?

tsp, why is marmot town to him

Ok yeah TL's entrance seems towny and I want to trust his feelings on marmot+quin

ok why marmot

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine


*big shrug*

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:31 pm Has nutella attempted to shoot anyone today

I tried for TL, wasn't a hit

I don't like thissssssssss

[VOTE: trustworthy] aubergine

for now


I'm honestly so lost, I could vote just about anyone tbh


I do really believe Alison could be deepwolfing here and bussed strategically/had her defense prepared, but it also feels so weird to me that I believe that now since I towncleared her so strongly earlier -- but that's exactly what I'm afraid of, misclearing her when I know her wolf game is really strong.

Idk. I'm really not feeling good about this phase, can see nearly anyone besides Hyena as plausible scum atp

Ok I whiffed my shot rip yolo

I just realized the stated eod is EDT but daylight savings is ending tonight

Mmm yeah I can see that. Plus Mac believed it and he has wolfed with her with solid distancing to great effect.

thread is exhibiting DSDV


dead sloonei dead village

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

going back to thinking of aiming at turnip lol

<3

[VOTE: alison] aubergine


for mac

hmmm

That was an exciting 12 hours to catch up on