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by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:00 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Inawordyes wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:07 am [VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

something something Vibe Tell, something something other people noticing picking up on it too and pointing it out ITT but not putting any importance into it
idgi
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:57 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

TheFloyd73 wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:26 am
Sabiplz wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:12 am
Sabiplz wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:05 am We are 9 hours from eod and once again 23 players and these are our "wagons":

Cape90 (2)
Creature (2) [Strawhenge vote does not count]
Le petit (2)
Sabiplz (2)

This game state is shitty. There is no consensus or anything.
Adding Chelsea (2)

I would like some actual dynamic wagons yall. Wake up
Do you think any of those five options have legs for bandwagons? MAYBE Creature, but I don't think there is a lot there, to be honest.

I agree with you though. For a game that's gone on for 27 pages thus far, the game feels stuck in limbo in regards to making much progress. Then again, I guess it's still D1.
Hm don't love this empty commentary from floyd. Just kinda summarizing the game state. What are YOUR preferences? What do you FEEL?
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:53 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Sabiplz wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:38 am
risiinq- wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:19 am can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig
OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.
Mmmm no it is you who are out of touch
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:50 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]



Morning, I am catching up


Nice to see mungbean, good first impression.


Also nice to see more pressure on cape and sabi as well, I was kind of thinking in my sleep that I really don't feel great about sabi. I'm sooorta willing to give creature another day in exchange for one of these wagons.
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:59 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Town creature is on like a higher tier of uninhibited threadblogging. He's made some of his typical sort of comments in this game but the overall effect of his presence has been limp and halfhearted
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:55 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Kinda wanna make things slightly spicier and move to cape or something
by nutella
Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:54 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Chelsea wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:52 am Thoughts on pyxxy?
Close to none
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:41 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

what i hear of the musical that version at least has some character development that makes sense. the movie was utterly ill conceived
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:40 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:45 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:44 pm I have movie plans with friends. See yall in a few hours. 💕
Wait, what movie?




Have fun
Heathers
GOAT tier movie
extremely garbage take
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:40 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

IBA wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:35 pm Okay wow wow wow I fucking hate the bats on my screen trying to parse this, I'll just take your fucking word for it christ
LOL you can turn those off
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:39 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:45 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:44 pm I have movie plans with friends. See yall in a few hours. 💕
Wait, what movie?




Have fun
Heathers
terrible movie
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

(I had kinda forgotten about the gf tho)
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Sloonei wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:03 pm This game is role madness, meaning that every player has a unique role ability.
This game contains a godfather.
people really do be not reading the OP smh
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:50 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

IBA wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:48 pm
Creature wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:42 pm
IBA wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:40 pm
Creature wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:39 pmI can prob confirm my role tomorrow in the first hour of the day.
why in the blithering fuck would you post this
I think current wagons are crap and I'm being pretty much ignored/suspected for bad reasons.
You don't have anywhere close to a wagon on you and there's a full day left

Jesus Christ

You realize that if you're town you're probably dying tonight now, right
I mean, everyone has a pr no?
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:55 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

hollowkatt wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:25 pm to expand something feels off about that nutella post and I can't put my finger on it but I'm trying to. Like earlier nutella said that cape was off for her and wanted to spend some time writing out their thoughts but in a nutshell what the thoughts come down to are "I don't agree with him" and "he jumped on me when Chelsea opened the door" which I don't often seen wolf cape being opportunistic in that way. I also think nutella thinking as much as they are about 3p is wolfy in general and specifically for her as even in large scale games where 3p is really super relevant she's focused on finding wolves, not finding 3p.

Maybe this doesn't make any sense to anyone else but I'm glad it's written down
this is the kind of response I was expecting tbh. HK town
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:44 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

We are ready for the siege
We are armed up to the teeth
Be careful how you live and breathe
Release what's broken underneath
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Inawordyes wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:31 pm Nutella I find it kinda funny that we both saw pyxxy's readslist and had completely different reads-takeaways from the self-awareness of the self-inclusion

Are we just destined to be diametrically opposed on every read this game?
It was a kneejerk reaction because it seemed so odd to me, but your assessment feels more right to me now lol
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:34 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Schiavetto wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pm
Creature wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm
Schiavetto wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm quick stop&jot

-feel decent abt nut, chels, quas, straw
-would be fine w/ snow, petit (Rask? Raskol???? i guess?????) chops for the time being
-have liked some cape but have felt variously sympathetic to some Less Enthused attitudes toward slot so eh
-conversation around pagecount/threadvolume is blegh
-every daughter post makes me groan, someone w/ an alignment read on them ping me & Help Me To See one way or the other maybe
I thought snow/risiinq seemed alright.
got the impression she was uncomfy in thread
Hm this is a new one
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Creature wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:57 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:55 pm Anyway, Creature, since you seem so bored again, I'll try to excite you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
That usually has the opposite effect. Try wagoning an actual wolf.
This aint it
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:16 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

IBA wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:42 pm
This whole thing feels procedurally generated.
Is this a read?
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:14 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:34 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:03 pm Town pile
Chelsea
DeeZees
falcon45ca
LordQuas
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Strawhenge
Valentine
Talk to me a little bit more about DZ/Valentine here.

I get your other scumreads
They both seem pretty comfortable in thread even if their entrances weren't the smoothest. After the first few posts DZ became what I think is his town self, getting reads and unfiltered thoughts out there. Similarly Valentine played up a newbie schtick for a bit but rather than continuing to lean into it she pushed through and started contributing her pov and generating a lot of interaction. I'm not really familiar with Valentine but I view it as >rand town to overcome resistance to participating by suddenly spilling over with content.
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Cape is a very strong player. Here he has looked quite solid, giving reads on a wide range of players with some amount of depth and originality. I don't think that's out of his wolf range by any means.
Probably correct, though I consider myself better at playing town then mafia, and this is coming from someone who got voted out 2 times day 1 in my last 2 Syndicate games as town, while I curbstomped everyone while I was mafia somehow.
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm I of course did not like how he jumped on Chelsea's push of me. I don't recall him giving any take on me prior, correct me if I missed it, but it felt like he tagged along with Chelsea pointing out that I had weak pushes early on
1. Incorrect, I gave this very questionable read about you
Cape90 wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:27 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:16 pm
DeeZees wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:13 pm just only off topic chat. it kinda comes from a time when people weren't like always hanging out in a discord together and mafia games were the primary site of social interaction
Thats quite nice i guess.

Must have made for some. ..... nutty....moments
[VOTE: deez] aubergine
nutella wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:19 pm
LordQuas wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:17 pm oh DeeZees is Dr Zeus? dude what happened you used to be funny
he randed mafia
DZ might be right in saying this is a decent look

At least not mafia
Like I made the post about you voting DZ over a pun in RVS like come on.
...ok?
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
2. I really don't think it's that hard too see but with reads like #114, #170, #199 (in fact the whole Creature push felt like pocketing Sabi's read). And then there is #339 which just feels like pocketing risinnq now? A lot of these things stuck out to me in terms of you, and to me, I would figure a better player would bring up better arguments to why people are mafia. I get wanting momentum and stuff out of RVS, it's just never my preferred approach in doing so, it feels like pushing LHF for the sake of it which I wouldn't expect a player of your or Quas' caliber to do. Also Quas has the whole thing of being very different to his mash self this game.
I can agree with people's reads without it being pocketing? I bounce off other people's takes a lot. I also had pointed out the schia post I found sus before risinq did.
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm He didn't follow up with a vote despite it landing me on the bottom of his reads list in 674, with a very noncommittal handwave of my early DZ read (not one of the ones Chelsea cared about afaik, so at least he's contributing something new but it feels forced especially since that was pretty inconsequential first-page stuff). He is self-aware of his hedginess and I actually kind of like that when it appears in his posts. I can relate.
I just started looking a lot elsewhere, also I wanted to write that readslist at the same time I also really wanted to sleep, so that sure didn't help me go into great detail on everyone, you can tell the first one I did was risinnq-.
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm But I particularly found IAWY's placement in that same readlist peculiar as the description sounded almost on the same level as the one of me.
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.
The use of "sometimes" was a good hint I was getting tired and didn't wanna actually detail the read. The missing puzzle piece here that distinguishes my read on you versus my read on IAWY was me kind of liking the over-explanation on his falcon vote as opposed to everyone else and I just didn't state it because I had already mentioned that and didn't feel the need to repeat (though it probably would have been good too repeat because stand alone it's confusing).
Alright, that's reasonable
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Rereading the list most of the other placements make sense but this felt so arbitrary to me. If Cape is mafia and knows I'm not, he knows that I'm usually not a very easy push, but the Chelsea pressure may have opened the door to me being a feasible target.
I will just say this, if you are mafia nutella, you just spewed Chelsea as town after you flip.
I am town and spewing her town. She's town.
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm However the primary thought in my head is actually not the idea that Cape/IAWY are w/w. It's actually that Cape is 3P. Cape may very well actually think I am mafia if so. This is a very egotistical part of the read but it's what led me there -- as mafia he'd be less likely to pressure me, because given my meta/reputation if he knows I'm not mafia I am likely to post myself clear. And he brought up 3P factions which is classically >rand 3p lol. I would generally rather hunt mafia primarily over 3p but with 3 of them I don't think we should gloss over their existence.
Counterpoint, the town game I immediately brought up SK on

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2426

I suppose you can counter counter point that and say I literally said this because originally I flipped mafia and had this thought as mafia as I was reading setup, but the game got reranded. OFC I didn't say this as the game was going on cuz duh, but I did get suspicion for that.
Yes, that is a weaker point, I don't begrudge anyone awareness of the setup
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 am
Strawhenge wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:30 pm 2. sirengif © me 2014. Hey @Cape90 what makes you think there are three third parties?
Read the first post of the game, there lies your answers.

I noticed it because I was looking for what time the game even starts, reread the thing about 20 times before actually seeing it since it was implied at the bottom
This is my explanation for why I noticed this in this game. I am assuming because of this, there are benign 3p which makes me not want to kill Colin for instance.
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm Maybe this thoughtdump is all nothing and he's town and I'm hedging on that way more in my head but I wanted to get this out there. The IAWY part is kind of a separate thing I tagged on because I haven't loved his thread position and it could fit. I think both Cape and IAWY are getting townreads for simply writing a lot of words and I want to push back on that.

I don't expect this post to be very popular, I don't have a strong conclusion, he could just be town and this is all spitballing. But fuck it I'm hitting post.
I am town, but I think it's stupid to think that a game solving post being posted would be for nothing. But this is my answer to your post so.

Also to be fair to you, towny post.
Yeah, I'm liking your response/engagement for the most part and you're not necessarily someone I'll end up pursuing strongly today but I'm glad I got the thoughts out
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:46 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Valentine wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:32 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:17 pm
Valentine wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:57 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:40 pm How is daughter omega town? Can you explain that read.
i don't really get the sense daughter... has a lot of stake in what happens? like it's early on but she's just posting and living her best life. there's no urgency to establish herself
How is not posting any thoughts about the game towny tho? I would assume the lack of stake is wolf motivated.

I am not getting how any of this is legitimate read
daughter's posted a few but they're peppered in.

i'm ... kind of confused how you don't think this is legitimate because the logic feels apparent to me? wolf need to control gamestate to push lims. if person not exerting tons of pressure, and they're not like, prone to completely freezing/inept at posting as wolf, is more likely to be town.

like i don't even feel like it's coasting because daughter is being more blatant about it. "when will i post game related post." is the motivation as a wolf saying something like that to just be... a cheeky, aloof wolf? it doesn't really sit with me as something i believe in.
I get this view, but still seems like it should be a weak read
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:44 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

pyxxy wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:26 pm D1 feelings so far, about half way through the phase:

groups ordered alphabetically

no idea:
Chelsea
ColinIsCool
DaughterOfOmega
IBA
Le petit poussin
Mungbean (tasty food tho)
TheFloyd73
WindwardAway

---

strong town:

good vibes:
Cape90
hollowkatt
nutella (also tasty)
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Strawhenge

unsure:
DeeZees
falcon45ca
Guillotine
LordQuas
Sabiplz
Valentine

bad vibes:
Creature
Inawordyes
pyxxy (is where I would put myself rn)

hooting and hollering:

---

Fyi I'm moving this weekend but I'm still registered as a resident of lurk city so please expect my behavior to continue 👍 ty and hope everyone is having a great weekend so far.

I said, "Better late than never / Just don't make me wait forever"
Pretty unusual to put yourself in bad vibes tier lol. It's honest self awareness but maybe too honest?

However @TheFloyd73 will surely be pocketed by your lyric selection. ;)
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:50 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

If Colin is Running Up That Hill maybe if he guesses someone's role he makes a deal and swaps places with them.



Gambit demon flashbacks
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Everyone should know you can highlight-quote instead of quoting a long wall only to respond to a tiny portion smh
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:25 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:17 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P
Are you running up the hills to say that?

Anyway what is your wincon if you're 3p and what was your intentions of posting this?
My wincon is to learn what people’s roles are or something. My intentions of posting this were to see what would happen
LMAO well now no one else is going to claim so gj
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:15 pm
Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:07 pm The Falcon x Schiav x Chelsea thing is something I want to relook at because it feels like there is one non town in here.
What's giving you this feeling?
Just something about the the way the conversation was being steered when I was reading it while driving by. I want to relook at it in a couple of hours Ave see if it was just in my head or not. Expect a more detailed response by then.
Im officially moving Sabi down to the Concerns tier for this.
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:15 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Strawhenge wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:31 pm
ISO: @Creature

1. The Rando Votes. Creature's first post in the game was to vote nutella. At this point Nutella has only posted once, so this is obviously a random vote move on the part of Creature. Random votes right out of the gate are null. But then Creature re-votes for Raskolnikov. Again in rando-vote fashion: with no explanation. However in context it's noteworthy that this revote comes three minutes after votes Creature, and a little less than an hour after hollowkatt rando-votes Raskolnikov. The timing of that feels very off to me, like Creature could be trying to look like a fun-lovin freewheelin towny makin joke votes, but not the kind of joke votes that could spark conversation.

2. Defensiveness. Creature's first game-related comment is 'Oh well shit', in response to Sabi pointing out that people scumread Creature (and Falcon) for popping in and dipping out. After another indifference post (I'll get to that in the next item), Sabi prods Creature for comment and he says '[...] Pushing falcon and me for dipping off is a pretty lazy thing to do and strikes as wolf scared to make enemies active in-thread.'. It's not as hollow as a straight-up parroting, but it does echo Sabi's post that basically points out the same fallacy. To me, this reads as a little too defensive for something that had already been shot down as angel-shooting (if I'm using the term correctly).

3. Indifference. I already said as much, but I'm not loving the, 'idk you're all boring me' approach. I've already been informed that this is just Creature Creaturing, but my scumdar pings with the lowkey aggro aloofness approach. I just can't get into the mindset of being town and telling my potential teammates this without contributing anything myself. He later claims that he's going to '[...] prob spend this night reading books [...]', reinforcing his outward boredom with this game. Two minutes later he says, 'You all got no thoughts on players who have been actually posting?' This is on Page 7 of the thread, at which point there has been plenty of discussion about players who have actually posted. What's most noteworthy here is that these indifference posts are interlaced with the defensive posts I mentioned in the previous item. The 'Oh well shit' at the angel shooting, then indifference, then 'nobody's talking about anything', then responding to Sabi by basically telling them what they had already said. The combination of items 2 and 3 are scummy to me.

3.1. Following his indifference, it's interesting that he attacked me for, 'complaining about the thread being active.' This, from the guy who said, 'idk you're all boring me' and saying he was going to go read.

4. I don't know what to make of this with regards to alignment, but this is interesting. Creature says hi to pyxxy, and asks, 'Got something?' As of the time of writing, pyxxy has yet to post in the game. Pyxxy isn't @'ed in the post either. Did Creature see that pyxxy was online? I can't put my finger on it, but this is odd to me.

5. This little read list pings my scumdar a little. I'll reiterate that I have no experience with Creature, so this might be his style, but saying one player (Le pitit) feels 'awkward', another player (IAWY) feels 'weird', and '[not knowing] what to make out of nutella' feels like a very soft and unengaged post—especially in context with the rest of his posts. Then he walks back his thought on IAWY in a similar fasion, then casts a for Valentine.
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TL;DR: Creature's clash of indifference and defensiveness is pinging me to lean scum. I'm open to hearing others' thoughts on this, as a lot of you have more experience with Creature than I.
I like this post fwiw. Decent summary and while some of these things are kinda just how Creature is, there is enough uncomfortableness that in total I think he is more in his scum meta than not.
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Sabiplz wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:07 pm The Falcon x Schiav x Chelsea thing is something I want to relook at because it feels like there is one non town in here.
Nah
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:10 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Re: iawy, it could just be that I strongly disagree with his reasoning on falcon and won't see eye to eye there, but I really didn't like how he retroactively justified it. He seemed to select falcon as LHF, then when it was pointed out to him that falcon was not just devoid of content he backpedaled and pulled something out of the content he could justify as a wolf read (and it was little more than "he omgused dz") that I find it hard to believe he really believes in. I'd like to see IAWY engage in more depth with other slots and react organically to developments rather than sticking his feet in one outdated push.

As a side note falcon and chelsea are possibly my two top town atm and I hope they don't clog the thread arguing
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:06 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

falcon45ca wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:04 pm It would seem there's some confusion on what I mean/meant by "white knighting":


White Knighting is when an individual inserts themselves into a situation with the sole purpose of making themselves look good.


I do feel Chelsea did this, and I don't think it's particularly towny.
That is not the usual meaning
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:03 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Town pile
Chelsea
DeeZees
falcon45ca
LordQuas
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Strawhenge
Valentine

Nullish
hollowkatt
IBA
Le petit poussin
Mungbean
pyxxy
Sabiplz
TheFloyd73
WindwardAway

3P??
ColinIsCool
Guillotine (kinda a joke bc he was my prerand 3p guess but also he has nothing really going for him either way so sure)
(Cape90?)


I Have Concerns
Cape90
Creature
DaughterOfOmega
Inawordyes
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:58 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:55 pm but the most you're talking about being bad don't really seen that impactful or bad if you take like, just a few seconds to think it over IMO and you've played enough to see surface level stuff.
Like what i don't get is you are referring to things that happened in the first few pages of the game, of course they are all relatively weak and I've moved past most of them atp.
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:55 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

I need to go run some errands so yall can chew on that and tear it apart as much as you want (I will be checking in from transit a bit) but gonna try and do a full playerlist rough-sort before I head out
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:53 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Okay so.

Cape is a very strong player. Here he has looked quite solid, giving reads on a wide range of players with some amount of depth and originality. I don't think that's out of his wolf range by any means.

I of course did not like how he jumped on Chelsea's push of me. I don't recall him giving any take on me prior, correct me if I missed it, but it felt like he tagged along with Chelsea pointing out that I had weak pushes early on. I protest that they were any weaker than is warranted in the first few pages of the game but I also protest that Cape cared about this read at all. He didn't follow up with a vote despite it landing me on the bottom of his reads list in 674, with a very noncommittal handwave of my early DZ read (not one of the ones Chelsea cared about afaik, so at least he's contributing something new but it feels forced especially since that was pretty inconsequential first-page stuff). He is self-aware of his hedginess and I actually kind of like that when it appears in his posts. I can relate.

But I particularly found IAWY's placement in that same readlist peculiar as the description sounded almost on the same level as the one of me.
Cape90 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:21 am Inawordyes - Someone who I consider to be towny sometimes. Like on #335 with Valentine and him asking about Valentine's read on IAWY. Perhaps overexplainy on something I wouldn't exactly consider AI. Like now with IAWY versus falcon, things took an unexpected personal turn I guess, one that I would never really find alignment indicative. #411 This read on DZ is pretty underwhelming.
Like yes he says "towny sometimes" while the only positive in my blurb is that he "liked the bluntness" but this really goes nowhere. He goes on to state that several things from IAWY are either NAI or underwhelming. Which has about the same level of neutrality as most of the blurb about me except that he was able to latch onto Chelsea's push.

And spoiler alert, I have not felt good about IAWY either.

Rereading the list most of the other placements make sense but this felt so arbitrary to me. If Cape is mafia and knows I'm not, he knows that I'm usually not a very easy push, but the Chelsea pressure may have opened the door to me being a feasible target.

However the primary thought in my head is actually not the idea that Cape/IAWY are w/w. It's actually that Cape is 3P. Cape may very well actually think I am mafia if so. This is a very egotistical part of the read but it's what led me there -- as mafia he'd be less likely to pressure me, because given my meta/reputation if he knows I'm not mafia I am likely to post myself clear. And he brought up 3P factions which is classically >rand 3p lol. I would generally rather hunt mafia primarily over 3p but with 3 of them I don't think we should gloss over their existence.

Maybe this thoughtdump is all nothing and he's town and I'm hedging on that way more in my head but I wanted to get this out there. The IAWY part is kind of a separate thing I tagged on because I haven't loved his thread position and it could fit. I think both Cape and IAWY are getting townreads for simply writing a lot of words and I want to push back on that.

I don't expect this post to be very popular, I don't have a strong conclusion, he could just be town and this is all spitballing. But fuck it I'm hitting post.
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:23 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Schiavetto wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:08 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:04 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P
...we just ignoring this or
siren.gif

I'm rusty on my mafia role lore; are there third-parties that aren't anti-town? Why would Colin just come out and claim third-party?

unless it's lingo and he's saying 'threep' aka 'threap' which means 'to scold; chide'
in some communities it's standard for 3rd party/survivors/etc to claim early as like, sign of good will/intent to townside yadda yadda
I'm trying to remember if this was something often done here in Colin's time
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:20 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

I have some Concerns about cape that are maybe too complicated to make sense, gonna try to type something up when I get on computer
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:00 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Schiavetto wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:42 am Search found 65 matches: awkward

Search found 5 matches: awk


Again, "coming to the rescue" feels pretty strong given what you're actually responding to.
YMMV on how much pushing there's been, but it's like def not a stretch to imagine town seeing the several posts in thread expressing some level of skepticism/wariness around awkwardness, anticipating the (bad) direction that might steer the phase in, and like, saying something abt it.

&like it's fine to speculate or even prioritize your concern over the opposite world, where that's just wolf fronting, but I don't think your remarks on her slot are nearly as grounded in the thread content as hers are, and I think her posts are a lot more grounded than your post suggests, even if she didn't go so far as to compile the examples upfront
Schia can be town now
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P
...we just ignoring this or
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:46 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

LordQuas wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:52 am
Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:49 am
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:42 pm
Creature wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:41 pm Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday
Do you have no thoughts or comments to make
This really pinged me because before this it's mostly filler (and it's rvs so grain of salt) but after it's just this mass of content and it felt so timed because they were barely making comments and then said this about Creature ewwww
from my *extremely* limited experience with sabi they seem to be content averse beyond drive by reads anyways. Not convinced they wouldn't just do it hypocritically as a villager is whats giving me pause
Oops quas already said exactly the same thing gg
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:49 am
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:42 pm
Creature wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:41 pm Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday
Do you have no thoughts or comments to make
This really pinged me because before this it's mostly filler (and it's rvs so grain of salt) but after it's just this mass of content and it felt so timed because they were barely making comments and then said this about Creature ewwww
I do sorta agree with this but also my limited impression is it's exactly NAI for sabi. Like I(w) found them(v) a very easy fake push in the mash because they spammed a lot of non-content chat without really contributing takes themselves
by nutella
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:38 am
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:42 am Every single post nutella makes seems like "what's a post that looks surface level bad that I can push"
Lol you literally always wolfread me for just posting thoughts

Also @Chelsea you can click the little arrow in a quote to jump back to the post

Anyway you seem town. Would be nice if you notice my many posts that aren't "surface level pressure" but for one thing my schia read was not surface level as I explained it later and for another bouncing off things other people notice (like on creature) is just how i play as town and you should know that @Cape90 you too
Chelsea wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:33 am
LordQuas wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:31 am i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"
I'm debating if Cape TMI'd Scia or not. Right now I lean: Other people will check in and tell me so not my problem. I still think Sabi and nutella are wolfier
Why sabi afaict this is the first time you mention them
by nutella
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:30 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:29 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:24 pm I'm too fixated on you rn for you to qualify for my greatest contribution to D1's ever, but yes i would consider myself a very accurate SR when it counts because of the way I SR
Cool. I'm pretty sure you're town, so you'll be eating crow by game's end.



Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel a bit bad for you, cuz you seem quite proud of this read
I vibe with this lol. Sorry iawy but I reread your read and just don't really think it's anything to write home about
by nutella
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:17 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]



Live a little, talk a lot, it's the way this goes
I've come to fear the little knives beneath their well-pressed clothes
Their arms are reaching, reach is spreading through the neon glow
Their mouths are moving, but their voices sound like telephones
The traffic hums, the traffic grumbles near my old window
The street lights flicker, glow and hover like suspended snow
I used to watch the moon retreat and wonder where it goes
Now I just wonder why my head is overrun with ghosts
by nutella
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:14 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Inawordyes wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:07 pm
Creature wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:01 pm Le petit's posts felt the most awkward for me.

IAWY pushing two LHFs here feel so weird for then.

I dunno what to make out of nutella rn.
Is it just weird? Or is it scummy? If it's weird, but not scummy, then what makes it notable enough to feel off, but not off enough to be mafia-indicative for you?
arete af post
by nutella
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:12 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Schiavetto wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:04 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:01 pm
risiinq- wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:52 pm
Schiavetto wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:40 pm Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup



but.

But!!!!


If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that
Schiavetto wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:40 pm or i'm wrong in both worlds but that would be p embarrassing, we won't talk abt that possibility
these two schia posts were very wolfy, but apparently they have a wolfgame in a mash so im not gonna make any evaluations yet - as the rest of their posts are ok.
I agree that was super wolfy, reminded me a lot of agendaed "if not x then y" associations I tried to paint when wolfing in the mash that just ended, but I do also sometimes just naturally make those reads as town so idk
hot take, villagers should be allowed to be wolfy as long as they can also make themselves towny & i think there's a lot of Probably Helpful Thoughts that get thunk that might also be accurately called """wolfy"""
I don't disagree with this, god knows I'm all about having no filter as a villager, just trying to tease out if there's a possible motive underlying it
by nutella
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:09 pm
Forum: The Syndicate's 10-Year Anniversary Festival
Topic: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 4592
Views: 93417

Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 1]

Inawordyes wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:04 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:02 pm iawy already walling -.-
Read my walls tyvm, I don't write my thoughts just to have them ignored because people will reading 1000 3-30 word posts but refuse to read 1000 words in 1 post
I always try to read every post but I can't guarantee I have the patience to parse it fully or that i can follow the thought process in such a long and rambling paragraph

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