The Syndicate

I'd assume joe was going next, confirmed useful role

Like why do you assume that if you're not mafia when he was the only unclaimed left idgi

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:43 am I didn’t really hint so much as told him straight up he was probably going to die, lol.

:fry:

Haha remember all those other games where the real mafia were miscleared on convoluted mechanical stuff but the people who just were villagery were correctly cleared


So yeah I'm weighing mech stuff on less towny people less

Or it's nova and he's mafia rolecop and knows the watcher is dead lmao?


Fuck
I have to stop myself from going down too many rabbit holes


But that is something ig

So if it's not the graverobber thing then it's either 112 via nova's theory, or the mafia is dead and we just have to yeet thundercat or w/e

Ugh my gut/heart really want to believe I was right about nook but when I stop to consult my brain I am honestly having a hard time getting past the mayor thing because like there *probably* isn't a graverobber and he's just actually the mayor and I'm being silly

The 112 theory is worth considering but she's been pretty towny overall and nook hasn't lol

Plus I hate to do this but him trying to push me is legit not a good look, I understand that I'm not cleared but there are hints in my iso from d3 that I shot poly and like.... come on man i'm obv town so if you're really not mafia you're not solving whatever puzzle we have here

I'm skimming back through some stuff and like

For pretty much the whole game I have nanook in the same tier that I had poly/sabie/myo who I was all 100% right about

My ego wants to trust that I'm just goat

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:24 am Mafia 4 could be a rolecop, and 112 rolecoped Joe as Seraph then just guessed you being the obvious target seeing the early phases hmmm

Huh


....Huuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh



I can maybe actually dig this


Hmmmmm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:23 am The yeet definitely got stopped, so that's a mayor role. Mafia 4 being a 1-shot mayor is not something I want to believe lol

That's not what my theory was, my theory was he chose a dead town role to steal but it's so close to what sabie was so it seems p unlikely


I'm kinda feeling like we should just use the yeet on thundercat today and see what happens?

Did you like hint to him to use it last night or sth and would it work on his death

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:39 pm Woof, I actually thought he was the loudmouth. Rip.

I'm confused by this, what makes you think he wasn't now

Oh nook thought he was loudmouth he said


Uhh it's possible he was and just never used it right? It doesnt trigger on death I dont think?

I would also like to know what kyle's role supposedly was

Idk I can't let nook get away if I was right so I think he should always be chopped at some point, god forbid we get to a lylo

Kyle reminded me of the doppelganger mafia role and that made me doubt my nook theory and it did feel kinda crackpot tbh, I just literally can't come up with any other way anyone here can be scum

Sooooooo maybe we just chop thundercat lmao?

I also potentially blocked the n1 kill (though it could have also been on protected-me or recruited-alison)

Yes my role is unprovable I can't help that but I fucking buried all the mafia and have been 9000 miles out of my scumrange since d1 lol

Hrmmmmm

Also nook wouldnt kill joe bc then he'd have to kill me next and hes tryna misyeet me

Oh wait nook said he knew kyles role?

That uhh maybe points to not nook but aaa mindgames

Oh no kyle is dead

Btw nookie im so town im making potato soup for dinner tonight

112 tracker, nik gunsmith, nova watcher, nutella vig

Ngl I forgot about the doppelganger lol

Bet the dead mayor in spec chat rn is pumping their fists at all my posts

Like flips being janitored being part of the setup literally does not preclude, and in fact makes likely imo, there being a mafia role that steals dead roles

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:39 pm No flips is part of the setup, not a role

Finally, this is a Semi-Open Setup with role reveals on lynches and day kills unless otherwise prevented. Night kills will be no reveals unless changed.

This actually suggests there’s potentially an ability that gives night flips (a reverse janitor, whatever that’s called), but night deaths not flipping is CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGUOUSLY part of the setup, not a role

In other words, fuck off

I fucking know that, I don't mean literally janitor, I mean whatever it is that can steal the dead roles

I'm done here we can pick back up tomorrow after you use your stolen ability (:

No u

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it


yeah, that's the solve


sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

@everyone this is like 98% the case if nook survives


literally nobody else can be mafia


only other possibility is we have to kill tc

Not wasting any more time arguing with mafia, we don't actually need to discuss anything further, I've solved the last piece of your little puzzle, your last little deus ex machina that you thought could save your doomed team, it's over mate

Like fucking read my posts I literally tried to reason why kyle could be scum and you talked me out of it

You are the only possible scum so I had to reason out how

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm I honestly don’t know how you could possibly seriously believe what you’re saying lol

This is just a blatant lie, you're outed

You insist on using the wording "setting up"

It's not some grand scheme (haha) it's literally just me trying to solve the game and I think I've found it


You're the one with clear agenda to push me here, it's your only possible out

Sorry I'm not letting another "nanook gets a bullshit mafia win due to role madness fuckery" happen

Not "setting up" just trying to figure out the solve, if I accept kyle as town you are literally the only person who can be mafia so I had to figure out why it worked and I just did


You saying I'm "setting it up" is just trying to make me look bad because I'm the only possible place you can try to push lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it


yeah, that's the solve


sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

Of course you are that was abundantly fucking clear

Yeah I just actually figured it out sorry

i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it


yeah, that's the solve


sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:16 pm Think 112 not being blocked and being let track means Mafia 4 isn't a blocker

fair enough

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:16 pm who could have even blocked her on N3? Has there been blocks outside of visiting Flanders in Martin's case or the Gambit deals?

the idea being kyle

p sure nook is just scum and we wont have to worry about it tho

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:11 pm Martin and Nik were told they were blocked specifically, so think if she was she'd know. Don't think it'd be ambiguous between the result that is "no secret"s and being blocked, that's shitty.

mmm maybe

but lolsprityo

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:56 am unless roleblocked lol

i cant tell the difference between a green peek and getting roleblocked by design of the setup i believe

here. idk if she confirmed that they'd look the same/she wouldnt be told if rbed but it's something to consider

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, obviously we’re proving my claim today, I’m not fighting that

But you’re setting up to kill me tomorrow too even when I’ve proven my claim and that’s fucking stupid

no, we will get kyle's claim and reevaluate from there, are you even reading what im saying

Yeah a lot of “MAFIA PROBABLY HAVE A SECOND ROLE THAT CAN STOP A TK” and similar is setting up to still be able to push me after I prove my role

again we'll also see if the wording is different, myo "survived" it rather than turning it into a no elim, mayor role should turn it into a no elim

like it's optimal for kyle to remain a mystery for today, if you survive we will need to scrutinize him

tutuu's check is p strongly in his favor tho unless hes somehow another mafia role that can mess with that


did we decide we thought tutuu wasnt RBed specifically bc martin had been told he was rbed and she wasn't? or did she say something like she was told she'd get the same answer if she was RBed and if someone had no secrets? i feel like she said something like that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:07 pm I mean, yeah, obviously we’re proving my claim today, I’m not fighting that

But you’re setting up to kill me tomorrow too even when I’ve proven my claim and that’s fucking stupid

no, we will get kyle's claim and reevaluate from there, are you even reading what im saying