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boo wrote:Turnip Head wrote:Hedgeowl has remained on the poll ever since she died.
Host: Is the Hedgeowl option supposed to be on the poll? Are we allowed to vote for Hedgeowl?
Oops. No, she's dead.
No rezz pls?Hedgeowl wrote:maybe if you all had voted for me I would have been rezzed.Mister Rearranger wrote:Ebwop: Why is Hedgie on the poll?
reywaS wrote:Would it be in poor taste if I were to post a pic of pixilated bukkake?
maybe if you all had voted for me I would have been rezzed.Mister Rearranger wrote:Ebwop: Why is Hedgie on the poll?
BWT was brought up by k4j just before FHs post, but rather than addressing any suspicions against him he jumps at the possibility that rey is bad. Doesn't help his case here at all frankly. Maybe I am wrong since I haven't played with rey as much as others, but I tend to think of quiet rey as civ rey. I would love to hear BwT address some suspicions brought against him. It would clearly be in his best interest as well. I won't be here around the vote, so can't wait long either.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Interesting post, FH. I need to read through all those people later, but based on how I feel right now, I would lean towards rey. His quietness is starting to concern me. And I never like "quiet rey" as it is.
Dom and Rey crossed my radar for their defense of llama early on and as you say confusion over why I said he survived twice. Once that was cleared and FH made a very clear cut case suddenly Rey saw what we were talking about and both of them dropped it completely. Now Rey and llama were an indy teamies who antogonized each other the whole game in AGods recently, so it doesn't seem quite their style if they were baddies together, but I made a note of it.kneel4justice wrote:Can you provide some explanations for your list of suspects? I probably missed them, so a summary would be nice.Hedgeowl wrote:I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
Dang civvie Ninja! Way to end the Llama wont die saga. Love playing with you Logan! I only wished we had learned his role, but this saves another lynch from being used. Seems like its time for some analyzing.
My current list of suspects: Dom, rey, and DH. I will he back to explore these peeps further and encourage others to do the same.
As far as Dom, we got off to a rocky start because we were kind of accusing each other under false circumstances. However, I am suspicious of him because I felt like during his vote making decision he was playing confused, it's completely possible that his confusion was genuine, but to me it just struck me as something a scum would do. Later seeing that the following day he voted JJ while he claimed to be suspicious of Llama but not sure it was Llama's baddie behavior, I am very much thinking he was looking for ways to avoid lynching Llama and they could be baddies.
Rey, I haven't paid enough attention to. I will try to work on that, but nothing caught my eye, obviously.
As for DH, I keep repeating it, but he compared himself (?) to FZ, yet was not out of the gates, IMO and I have to wonder why he wasn't? Aside from that I just haven't got any clear townie vibes, or any strong feeling really, and since he compared himself to FZ I was kind of expecting him to be front and center, maybe I expected too much and that is my fault. Not sure!
Aside from those I am concerned about BWT, because he said he wasn't worried about the vote as we had plenty of time (day 1) but yet he ended up randomizing (or self voting) and he just didn't seem to be taking things serious, as I'd expect a townie to. He reminded me of WWE where he gave up but that was so early on that he would have had no reason to want to give up, so either he just doesn't want to be a baddie or it has nothing to do with his alignment.
Then Epi for being so quiet (although I am wondering if this is still in character as far as the I don't care if you suspect me attitude & he just has two major levels, extra quiet and extra talkative), who I now feel better about, but don't know if he is just perhaps on an opposing scum team, so I am keeping that in mind.
He can be über talkative and then slide back into quiet, especially if multiple games are going on at a time. So I don't tend to think of it as indicative in alignment necessarily.
I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
I wasnt meaning to call you out for it over others you were just the most recent. i just could see the logic in it the way you described it, so thank you. I wanted to make sure I wasnt reading boo's instructions wrong, because many have been voting seemingly at random.S~V~S wrote:I looked to see what the powers that corresponded to the lost numbers were, they did not seem to be powers that would overpower anyone (although the people I picked were civvies, IMO) were they to fall into the wrong hands, so i went with the LOST numbers as i like to do.
Is bizarre random behavior more acceptable from some people than others? If Kate were playing, she would have picked 8 too, solely becasue it is 8.
These numbers correspond the powers listed in the first game post correct?S~V~S wrote:I always pick LOST numbers when there are numbers to be picked. It's a luck thing, I guess.
And beware asking DH to elaborate or analyze. He will bring out a can of whoopass and analyze that crap out of things if he has time. I think that was Bioshock where i made that mistake as a baddie.DharmaHelper wrote:Yeah I know I'm just saying. Usually I go out of the gate pretty strong. Just balancing two games + other stuff has made that unlikely for now :P
Baddie llama and civ llama! I always suspect a llama without his tophat and mustache.S~V~S wrote:
If we are right about his role than its becAuse he had a protection the first lynch. He should die this time unless some other shenanigans are pulled.kneel4justice wrote:Obviously, I think Llama is scum. But is there a reason that the lynches aren't going through that we have to solve before we lynch him or no?
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Yes. Thank you. This is it right here.Flyin' High wrote:I voted john because I honestly wasn't getting civvie vibes from him. My vote had nothing to do with llama. I was pinged by john's Day 1 comments and still felt those pings Day 2. Being wrong is a real bitch, but unfortunately it happens in mafia.
As for llama, at this point it is definitely looking more like he does have a team that is helping him. But before I jump to 100% conclusions, I want to read through the roles to look at all of the possibilities.
A) The lynch was a tie according to DH:
The final vote tally on the poll was 3 Sorsha v. 4 llama
So for it to be a tie, someone had to put a 4th vote on Sorsha
As far as I can tell, the only extra vote available was the penis envy prize
So assuming no unwritten game secrets, whoever won that prize put it on Sorsha
B) DH broke the tie in favor of lynching llama and llama survived
No civvie roles had been assigned yet so his survival was either to do unknown unwritten game secrets or being part of a mafia team
Possible roles that could survive a lynch are:
Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.
The taint; the grundle; the fleshy fun-bridge: You’re stuck between the dick and the asshole. No one wants to join you, so you’ll survive the first attempt on your life. Once in the game, you may pick 5 players, and force them to discuss what they call this area of the human body, making their votes worth 0, or roleblocking them if used at night. If you use it during a lynch, it cannot be used in conjunction with the one time ability of Pixelated Bukkake.
Or maybe the indy role since we have no clue what their powers may be?
The Balancer: SECRET ROLE
Occam's Razor does seem to point to llama being bad based on surviving Day 1.
C) llama had 8 votes to john's 6 votes in the Day 2 poll, but john ended up lynched
Possible explanations include:
Someone used the lynch switch Day 2
Switcher (Passive): One lynch switch. You do not get other powers until this has been used. You may not opt out of having this power. The player you switch the lynch to must have at least 1 public vote.
The person with the stacked deck happened to pick cards that john had raising the votes he started with (this is highly unlikely because they'd have to have picked 3 cards john had and chances of that seem slim to none)
Stacked Deck (Passive): You may trade in any amount of your white cards, for other white cards of your choice. If another player has the white card(s) you choose, you will get a different card, and that player or players will start the following lynch with +1 vote for every card you picked that they hold. You may get other powers while holding this card. You may opt out of having this power, allowing someone else to get it. If you are killed why you hold this card, it automatically transfers to a random player you could not have won with.
Perhaps the thief attempted to steal an awesome point from john knowing he didn't have any which made him start at +2 votes, but this would have resulted in a tie and no one has mentioned there being another tie
Thief: You may pick another player, and steal 1 Awesome Point from them. If they have no Awesome Points, they start the next lynch at +2 votes.
The midgets and the smegma targeted john Night 1 (but again, like with the thief this would have resulted in a tie, not john straight up getting lynched so I find this unlikely)
Two midgets shitting into a bucket: Each night, you may pick another player to empty your bucket of shit on to. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your bucket dumped on them.
Smegma: Each night, you may share your... dirt with another player. This will put them at +1 vote in every lynch from then on. You may not pick the same player again until three other players have had your dirt shared with them.
The explanation I find the most likely is that the Pixelated Bukkake voted for john
Pixelated Bukkake: Once in the game, you may pick up to half of all currently living players, and force them to vote for a player of your choice. Your lynch vote is worth 2, and every player you do not have BTSC with who votes for the same player you do has .5 added to their vote total (to a maximum of 3 extra votes on the person, or 6 people voting for them). This +.5 does not occur during the lynch you force votes. Kill on even nights.
My current thinking is this: I think thellama is the Taint. (when am I ever gonna get to say that again!?
The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama yesterday.
If this is what happened, then llama should be vulnerable tomorrow since the taint can only survive one lynch.
With all of this in mind, a possible alternative explanation for Day 1 is that llama and two of his teammates (one of which is the Pixelated Bukkake) voted for Sorsha which caused the tie.
Llama appeared to be the lynch candidate day 1, but according to DH it was a tie and he choose llama, who still didnt die. So not only were there vote shenanigans to save llama, he also survived. With only two roles taint and the hog and both bad that could have survived this is a big flag. Then he once again appears to have the most votes, but didnt and John is lynched instead, so yes someone is working to save llama and aint no civ I bet.Dom wrote:I'm confused.Hedgeowl wrote:For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.
So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.
He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?
For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.
So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.
ture.Mister Rearranger wrote:See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:
Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.
If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.
I just read through his comments and didnt see him withholding info? Do you mean when people asked him for more information about the tie?Epignosis wrote:I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.
Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
Thanks.thellama73 wrote:Hedgeowl wrote:No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?thellama73 wrote:Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.thellama73 wrote:The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.
I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.
but with two baddie teams, that could be a set-up and you could still be bad. I find llamas survival the most damning part of this whole thing. DHs sudden defensive posturing didnt do him any favors either though.johns2jj wrote:If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.
No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?thellama73 wrote:Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.
Thats what she... Oh hell you know...DharmaHelper wrote:Bukakke messes with a lot of things.
Ok, I searched the word tie in the forum and sorsha was the first to note this originally about your post and also MR. I havet found MRs comment yet. I would understnd your confusion but not MRs unless I can see what he actually said.johns2jj wrote:I thought there was a tie based on my only previous game where ties led to no lynch.
Wait, I missed that. Others commented on a tie when we didnt it fact know that? This is highly suspicious and a mega slip if true.Sorsha wrote:Seem aggressive? I'm asking questions....
And can you explain to me how MR and john seem to have both known that there was a tie?
Whats up? No u is frankly one of the lamest passive-agressive bullshit comments of all time. (can you tell I dont like it? )DharmaHelper wrote:Unless boo lied to me and made me break an imaginary tie :P
oh, ok. Thanks! So you broke a tie and no one died! Why....that still makes me think Llama is likely bad.Was it a tie? Epi posted votes and it showed 4 for llama and 3 for sorsha i believe. What am I missing?DharmaHelper wrote:Good thing we can change votes huh?
It was in fact a tie.
I know, I am sorry. I hate voting for you, especially early.thellama73 wrote:Well I don't like the looks of this one bit.
Reading through the roles I have to agree with this. No civ had received card powers yet, so how could a civ possibly have prevented this lynch? There are multiple baddies possibilities, but this cant have been a tie because the card czar would decide correct? No one died, so it has to be a lynch surivival which based on roles screams baddie to me.johns2jj wrote:No civ can lock into a power AFAIK without three awesome points. No one should be able to have 3 awesome points yet. To survive a lynch you have to be bad, or have hidden votes against you allowing the lynch to fall on another. If the lynch actually should of fallen on another then my vote is misplaced but I believe I am not acting in error. Only time will tell one way or the other.
Well unless you are Doin' it in the butt, I don't think you get a say.Epignosis wrote:Unless the woman has Multiple Personality Disorder, I don't think that instance should count.Elohcin wrote:insertnamehere wrote:We're all fucked aren't we. The baddies in this game are just TOO GOOD.
That's what she said.
Don't give up guys
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I would have preferred:
"The baddies in this game are just TOO GOOD."
"That's what she said."
Sorsha wrote:Yeah, game over.
It's a game mechanic. One of the roles does this i think.S~V~S wrote:Um, huh?
RIPiywg FZ! I am surprised FZ was killed early again. Not sure if because she was unknown or because of her suspicions. Will have to do a reread.kneel4justice wrote:This SUCKS.boo wrote:Night 1 End: Bringin Reagan Back
Ronald Reagan was brought back in time. The time-continuum was not changed. Weird…?
FZ got murdered by… doin’ it in the butt. Well, stay classy FZ.
Today’s question:
Daddy, why is Mommy crying?
FZ. has been killed. Thanks for playing!
It is now Day 2. You have 24 hours to lynch someone, please get your answer cards in in the first 23 hours of the lynch. Metalmarsh is your Card Czar today.
Thanks! I clearly have not been paying enough attention to the polls since I usually vote towards the end anyway. It will make it easier to not miss a vote though.boo wrote:You are. It's sort of become more common lately (in my experience), and I'm a fan (especially in a 24 hour day which I don't really care for, easier to vote if you're unsure if you can be back later and then change your vote if you're able to).Hedgeowl wrote:Are we allowed to change our vote this game? Did I miss something?
kneel4justice wrote:I honestly cannot understand what happened with the last minute voting, to me it looked like an attempt to save Llama but I am trying to keep an open mind, since quite a few people seem to be opposed to the idea that he is scum, but I really don't see it. Sometimes I am really nervous before a lynch but I was feeling really good about this. He did multiple things that I think are clear indications of being scum such as emotional appeals/switching up playing style, I forget the other thing at the moment. I just genuinely don't get it. I would appreciate it if some people who think Llama is civ would explain why, and that especially includes those of you who voted for Sorsha, which I am not sure I get either?
FZ, also can you explain your thought process, because I do not even know your opinion of Llama despite you voting him.
I completely understand getting confused, but this makes no sense to me based on your baddie analysis program you are using in the other game. How could you "get confused" ?insertnamehere wrote:Well, shit. I'm sorry S~V~S. This is why I don't play 2 games at a time.
S~V~S wrote:*Sloooooowly backs out of the thread*
You know we have a smiley for that you just added. 
Thanks it must be my iPad then. Dom is normal again, but BWT has a smiley instead as his avi. Oh well.S~V~S wrote:Dom had that Avi for quite a while, as I recall.
And Day Zero is a day to get the feel of things, and the feel of people. Since you can't vote to lynch anyhow, alot of people use the time to settle into the thread before we go into the cat/mouse phase.
Epignosis wrote:And God were the girls hot! Keds with no socks. Short khakis shorts. Take me back!reywaS wrote:Being a teenager in the 90s was indeed awesome.Epignosis wrote:Is that what the kids are calling them now?Sorsha wrote:Try to get awesome points so you can lock into a cool role otherwise the roles switch each night. That's what I'm going with.
I remember they used to call them "cool points." If you did something awkward or stupid, they'd say, "Gimmie 10 cool points, bro."
Ah, the 90s.
No fucking skinny jeans or sad throwbacks to 80s fashion.
