The Syndicate

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I knew this was going to happen whoever killed me - you suck

thanks for the fun game SVS and Juliets

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Chronos: I called Arte he because his name Arte sounds male.

As for everything else: after everything yesterday I think I need to let it sink in. I did think the interaction between Eros and Fortuna was weird. He defended her all day and in one of her first posts she tries to distance from him. There is something niggling at me over this but I am not sure what it is.

ATHENA: I THOUGHT IF I POSTED ALL CAPS YOU WOULD NOTICE. HAVE YOU FINISHED YOU READ OF THE WISCONSIN VOTERS? WHAT THOUGHTS DO YOU WANT TO SHARE?

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Voted Indiana -

Linky with Eros thats nice but I will let her respond k?

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Fortuna wrote:Well, bye Arty. I never had anything against you. I just had to vote you to keep myself alive. I'm sure you understand. RIP.

And, I am going with Ohio for sure.

Linki with Eros - I appreciate your support. I don't like to give my opinion unless I think I have something worth saying. I don't like to be hasty or speculate too deeply b/c I know that can be risky.

Linki with Medusa. I think YOU are so bad.

wooo, so many linki, hold on Perse, I will look back and get back to you in a few.

You do realize you had more votes than he did. How did you survive the lynch?

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Fortuna wrote:
Fortuna wrote:
Athena wrote:
Artemis wrote:A lot of civs voted for Wisconsin
How do you know this? Seems to me, only a baddie would be able to say that.
Interesting. I agree with Athena. Can you explain yourself Artemis?

Ah, yes, this post. It caught my eye (meaning - got my interest) when Athena pointed out that Arty said a lot of civs voted for Wisconsin. How would Arty know that a lot of civs voted that way unless he was bad and knew who the civs were. That was all. I thought it was worth looking into. So, I asked Arty to explain himself, i.e. tell us how he knew a lot of CIVS voted Wisconsin. I thought my post was pretty self explanatory.

Linki with Perse....I forgot it was Arty that was the one who said that about the civs voting Wisconsin. This new name thing has be all messed up and confused. I like it when I can put a name with an avatar that I know. It is easier to keep track of who said what.

See that wasn't so hard. Why did it take you so long to respond? Why did you ignore Vesta?

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Fortuna wrote:wooo, so many linki, hold on Perse, I will look back and get back to you in a few.

I won't be holding my breath

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I just knew that no matter what happened Fortuna would not be lynched. I am surprised they did not switch it to me.

Linky with Fortuna - lmmfao! Yes you did! You said Athenas case against Arte was interesting! You wanted a response from him but never elaborated to me what was interesting in Athenas case.

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RIP Arte.
No Fortuna I am not throwing you under the bus. I am waiting for you to tell me what was so interesting about Athena's case on Artemis. Care to answer now?

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Eros wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I vote Fortuna.

Phoenix wrote:correct me if I'm wrong here, but it appears to me that the "case" on Artemis is the supposed "slip" with the "lots of civs voted..." thing and then there seems to be a few circumstantial things that seem reaching a bit. Is there any actual solid evidence?

The things that Apollo said about Fortuna seems more solid than the Artemis stuff in my opinion.
Keep this in mind folks. This is the only post Phoenix has made regarding Fortuna. Tagging along with another. Did Persphone grill the bird?

The only time Perseophone mentioned Phoenix is here:

Persephone wrote:If I was randomizing I would remove Medusa and Phoenix tbh.

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Mark it. Mark it with a B. Then put the Bad Guys in the oven and listen to them scream.

Lemme add to your suspicion. He also said he would look at Wisconsin voters to see if anyone jumped out at him but all he did was post the names of who voted for which state then added nothing else about Wisconsin voters.

Reminds me.

Athena: did you ever do your read of Wisconsin voters?

votes my gut its all I trust from here on out.

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I am not playing if I am asked to grill a bird I am a vegetarian.

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BTW she never agreed nor disagreed with Athena's post she just said interesting. Which could mean anything. That is why I wanted to hear from her to tell me what was interesting in the post.

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Well I guess we will have to disagree and wait (if we can be so fortunate) to hear from Fortuna herself. That would be ever so nice.

Sorry I miss typed but I hadn't checked votes so I really thought I had more than one. My bad.

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Well it is the truth I received vote and I dont know wtf to think.

I have given my reasons (several times today) why she is bad now give me reasons why she is good.

Damn right I am defensive.

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Eros wrote:
Ceres wrote:
Persephone wrote:Cere:s tbh Idk wtf to think after today. I cannot believe I am getting votes because I was suspicious of someone who has yet to respond at all not just to me but to anyone. What do you think of the reasons for voting me?
Who do you think you will vote for?

I have the same gut feeling about Apollo still too.
I don't have anything on you right now, but maybe that's just the thing - you come across as way too civ. That's why I was curios to hear from Eros.
That's the kind of timbre I mean, Ceres. Offensive over little and defensive over little.

BTW Ceres here is why I am suspicious to Eros, in case you missed it in your last post.

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I give up really.

You are only responding to a small suspicion of Fortuna blowing into maddening proportions to encompass Mars, Hercules and me. All she had to do was answer herself, but instead you answered for her, still are.

You still have not shown why she is a civ.

I have never said I was voting for her I still have yet to vote. I do have other suspicions you know. I am still waiting to be convinced but I guess that will not happen.

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Eros wrote:And Persephone's timbre rattles me.

NO U

LInky Ceres yeah sounding civ is bad

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Cere:s tbh Idk wtf to think after today. I cannot believe I am getting votes because I was suspicious of someone who has yet to respond at all not just to me but to anyone. What do you think of the reasons for voting me?
Who do you think you will vote for?

I have the same gut feeling about Apollo still too.

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Eros wrote:
Persephone wrote:Eros: no need to get your panties in a twist. But again I will ask why are you defending someone that you do not know the alignment of?

Why isn't Fortuna answering herself tbqh your last post feels overly defensive of someone YOU do not even know is civ.

I do not understand your vehemence against me still but I guess that does not matter to you.

Defend herself against what is just laughable at this point. Obviously there is something to defend against since you have been doing all day lol

This was not the way to prove she is townie. All you have proven is she will not cannot or won`t defend herself. Which I absolutely do not understand.
Answering your volley of questions and suspecting you is now vehemence?

Thats how your response read to me. No need for eyerolling but it is what I feel.

I am sorry I suspect someone who has 3 people defending her but she has not posted one word about it herself. If it is suspicious to try and find baddies then I am very guilty. You do not find it odd that 3 people are defending one person who hasn't posted?

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Hercules wrote:Persephons. Voted Persephone previous reasone for the previous reasone for the for the for the for the for the previous revious revious revious reasons. Voted Persephons. Voted Persephons. Voted Persephons. Voted Persephons. Voted Persephone for the for the for the previous reasone for the previous reasone for the for the preasone for the preasone preasons. Voted Persephone for the previous reasons. Voted Persephone for the previous revious reasone preasons. Voted Persephone preasons. Voted Perseph

I can't wait for you to post your reason for voting me that I can understand.

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Mars wrote:
Vesta wrote:I am still a bit hung up on Artemis. Looking back at votes, she voted for Eros early, when it would make the most sense to hold your vote to defend yourself since she was a top candidate all day. The only way that makes sense is if she knew she would be saved. Lynch switch, votes stolen, etc. The insanification of Artemis also makes no sense. When I went back to see how she defended herself yesterday, it became clear there is no rhyme or reason. She's posting literally anything. It's not a story or specific video and not an insanifier, so I don't see how it isn't faked. Has anyone else been insanified like this so far?

I normally don't like to vote people insanified, but Artemis did have a chance to defend herself and would have been voted again if not for this insanification. Makes me rethink my possible vote for Fortuna today.
No, they haven't. And it seems odd to have an insanifier that prevents the victim from apparently making any contribution at all, especially when we've seen at least two other, more expected, insanifications this game. I think Artemis is faking. And since I'd better vote now to make sure... *votes Artemis*

I don't trust Persephone either. I really don't see the case on Fortuna; the whole thing about "she voted Atlas, and then he died!" sounds more likely to be setup than bad playing, and at any rate screams WIFOM. I don't like how several people are going after her for, in my view, almost nothing.

You do realize those are not MY reasons for suspecting Fortuna right? Because that is not my reason for suspecting her.

I am finally at a real computer instead of my phone and I am catching up and voting soonish.

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Eros: no need to get your panties in a twist. But again I will ask why are you defending someone that you do not know the alignment of?

Why isn't Fortuna answering herself tbqh your last post feels overly defensive of someone YOU do not even know is civ.

I do not understand your vehemence against me still but I guess that does not matter to you.

Defend herself against what is just laughable at this point. Obviously there is something to defend against since you have been doing all day lol

This was not the way to prove she is townie. All you have proven is she will not cannot or won`t defend herself. Which I absolutely do not understand.

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Apollo: I agree with your latest sentiment. But I also want to give the Defenders Of Fortuna a chance to post why she is the civviest of civ`s. To also explain why it makes me opportunistic and therefore a baddie.

I almost doubt Eros will respond as I made my post ahead of his by a few minutes yet he ignored my post completely.

I also may have misremebered who was part of the Defenders Of Fortuna - it may include Hercules as well but I cannot be sure since he is cursed. So I look forward to hearing from: Eros, Mars and Hercules before the lynch ends.

I hope its not in the last hour before the lynch ends as then it will be too late for us to weigh all options.

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Ceres wrote:I looked into the Fortuna case and she has 8 posts and missed Night 1 and Day 2 votes. On Day 1 she voted for Atlas because Atlas voted for her - not necessarily a baddie move, but the only situation of its kind so far - please correct me if I am wrong, then jumping on a potential bandwagon against Artemis and lastly not even trying to address the accusations made against her. Apollo might have a point about her being protected.

About low posters - I really don't think they should be ignored.

1. Aphrodite - 3 posts, 1 vote D0 and 1 vote N2 - no lynching votes.
2. Ares - 1 post, 1 vote D0.
3. Electra - 3 posts, 1 vote D0 and 1 vote N1 - no lynching votes.
4. Helios - 3 posts, 1 vote D0 and 1 vote N2 - no lynching votes.
5. Pandora - 3 posts, 1 vote D0 and 1 vote D2 for Prom.
6. Poseidon - 8 posts, 1 vote D0 and 1 vote D1 for Herpes.

and some special* cases of low posters who have been insanified, but have managed to vote on a regular basis.
1. Mars - 5 posts, missed only N1 vote
2. Herc - 7 posts, missed N1 vote
3. Phoenix - 9 posts, missed D2 vote

*Note that I have not included the insanified posts. These are all players that have less than 10 posts.
If you spot any mistake or if I missed someone, let me know.

At the other end of the spectrum, I think Apollo is the most talkative.:P

Thanks mom for doing this I was going to link up Fortuna`s posts but you have put it very well. I agree with your assesments of low posters. I agree just because they are low posters does not make them non contributors.

How do you feel about Apollo - I know we both voted him - are you still feeling the same way?

Eros wrote:
Apollo wrote:WHo do you think Pluto should have voted for, Eros? You haven't exactly made a case for any alternatives.
I mentioned something on Artemis that no one said anything about, but I'm under the impression that no one will vote for a bewitched individual anyway.

Perseophone's going after Fortuna seems awfully opportunistic and Medusa's echoingof it is just ironic.

And somehow even though you are not Fortuna this feels like a no u.

How is it opportunistic to try and find baddies?

Why do you think she is civ?

Why just because I find her suspicious am I bad?

If not Fortuna who you so blatantly defend then who should we be discussing? (and you are right so early in a game I will not vote for someone cursed but later yes I would consider it)

You and Mars have put yourselves front and center with your open defense of Fortuna. It is something that needs explanation imo. I mean why isn`t she defending herself?

And I shouldn`t be suspicious lol!

Look at me all you want I am trying to find baddies I am not infallible. I am a God but I still can make mistakes. Right now I don`t feel I have, but you have given me pause.

I also worry when others jump on a case I have made without adding any of their own thoughts. Like Fortuna did with Athena. Thats oppotunistic imo.

Linky Apollo - thats what I have been saying minus the Hinzelman angle.

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Eros wrote:
Persephone wrote: But maybe we should look at those who have just latched onto this without adding any of their own originality to the discussion aka Fortuna. here is her post:
Fortuna wrote: Interesting. I agree with Athena. Can you explain yourself Artemis?
So what was interesting? What do YOU think about what Arte said? What Athena said? You have just jumped in on this but yet added nothing yourself if it is so interesting I would think you would tell us what is so interesting.

Sure baddies will say "There are a lot/several civs who voted X" I have seen it happen but I have also seen players like Fortuna latching on without putting themselves out there in the limelight like Athena did. I am going to be very interested to see what happens with these three as this day progresses.
This post makes me way more nervous about its author than its subject.

Elaborate please. I am glad to hear Fortuna, Arte and Athena are nothing for you to be nervous over.

Linky Yes Medusa both are suspicious of me though neither has elaborated why. Idk about the Atlas thing.

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Apollo wrote:I also am keeping an eye on Artemis, but I think I would rather wait until I can ask her how she survived a lynch and get a coherent answer.

I agree here. Arte had 6 votes and Prometheus had 5. So two players who each had a second vote voted for Prometheus or there was a switch or save. I feel the latter is most likely.

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Artemis wrote:Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

- Poet Dylan Thomas.

Breathe deep the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsitter people look back and lament
Another day's useless energy spent Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love and has none
New mother picks up and suckles her son
Senior citizens wish they were young Cold hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colours from our sight
Red is grey and yellow, white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion

~ Moody Blues Late Lament

Such a fun catch up.

Looking forward to hearing from Athena and her thoughts on the Wisconsin voters as promised from Day 2.

And am hoping that Fortuna will work up some sort of response.

Apollo your voting record so far has been iffy at best. Who are you watching as your top suspects for this lynch?

Chronos you say that Arte and Athena should be looked at for today. What have you found looking back? Are they your suspects for today?

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Fortuna wrote:Michigan.

so you are not going to respond to any suspicions against you? Good to know.

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Ceres wrote:
Pluto wrote:
Ceres wrote:You alright dude, bro(-in-law)?

I distinctly remember having this super wacky teacher from Saint Paul back in high school, so this one's for her.
I'm fine. I just love robots and ketchup. You got a problem with that?
Oh Me! So this is whom my daughter ended up with.

I ended up with a little devil that adores robotic ketchup. lol

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Apollo wrote:But how are we going to get across Lake Michigan? In some sort of boat-like contraption? That seems pretty far fetched.

I am a God I do not have need of "contraptions".

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Michigan is conected to Indiana and Ohio.

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Damn RIP Prometheus!

I think I will go back to Iowa. I have googled and read the roles and have seen nothing to indicate anything other than Iowa being the tall corn state.

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I guess Pandora voted without posting

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Vote Artemis of the two top vote getters I feel more strongly about Artemis. I feel he covered his slip so well he went in a circle. His response did read genuine but then he made his vote post and it left me wondering about him more. I do still wonder about Prometheus and his need to not care about what happens during lynch just getting on with the nights.

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I have posted about Arte, Athena and a bit about Fortuna. Still have bad feeling about Apollo.

I would have liked to have discussed Fortuna in more detail but her posts so few as they are its hard to decide since she has not bothered to respond today.

I have said what I thought about the responses I got.

I just wish there was more to go on.

Did Arte slip? Was Athena distracting? Does Prometheus only care what happens at night? Will Fortuna ever add thoughts?

Darling Pluto do you think his vote post a decoy trying to get some not to vote him because he is drunk and surely will not defend?

Pickle I am.

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does anyone have any thoughts about what I posted about Fortuna?

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So thanks for responding Arte and Athena.

Arte your post seemed genuine to me I also get that when you put yourself out there you can be first to be suspicious. Not that it makes you good suddenly but it does sate the ping I had a bit. Who do you find most suspicious? Are you looking at Herpe voters as well as Wisconsin voters for any correlation or will your vote be based solely on who voted Wisconsin? I would like to hear a lot more from you before lynch if you have time.

Does anyone think that Poseidon was being saved in the lynch yesterday?

Athena you are very smart so maybe I need to look a little closer. I await your thoughts on the Wisconsin voters. Though you do seem quite focused on those votes what about the Day 1 lynch? What do think of all the Herpes voters? I am not really finding you suspicious enough to vote for but I would like to hear more from you.

Apollo greetings and salutations to you as well. Thanks for the thoughts. I found Prometheus vote odd as well. But why just Prometheus? He was not the only one to not voice an opinion on the discussion at hand (Poseidon/Herpes) so why are you only looking at him?

Ceres (Mother) I wish I knew what you were saying. I cannot wait until you are uninsanified.

We need to hear from everyone. Low posters included.

Hosts I am sorry I did not vote for a favorite avatar

They all were unique and awesome. I thought for some reason that we had until the end of the day.

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First how awesome Laura's role is interactive it should be a huge help for us! I agree with her that it is indeed likely that Hinzelman voted for Wisconsin. I do wonder about the tie, if it was a tie.

As far as the Artemis/Athena go I do find it odd Artemis wrote a lot of civs then went on to say several civs. Athena's strong reaction is well idk. Let me discuss this.
Arte: I agree it is likely that civs voted for Wisconsin but it could just as easily be baddies and/or indy's in there as well so to say a lot or several civs seems to be like glossing over what you have posted. Again how do you know there were a lot/several civs and not baddies and/or indy's.
Athena: Nice to know you think so highly of yourself

Modest aren't you? lol I have to ask you how do you know there are not a lot of civ's who voted Wisconsin? Why are you so intent of throwing all this at Arte? I mean I voted Wisconsin too but you seem to be distracting us from looking at Wisconsin voters and instead drawing eyes to Arte. Why? I do find what he said odd but I find some things you have said odd as well. Why not look at the Wisconsin voters? Is it because you voted Wisconsin as well?

Both of Arte and Athena should be looked at by everyone to see how they feel. I like looking at all sides and have no problem with closer scrutiny in my direction because of my vote for Wisconsin.

But maybe we should look at those who have just latched onto this without adding any of their own originality to the discussion aka Fortuna. here is her post:

Fortuna wrote: Interesting. I agree with Athena. Can you explain yourself Artemis?

So what was interesting? What do YOU think about what Arte said? What Athena said? You have just jumped in on this but yet added nothing yourself if it is so interesting I would think you would tell us what is so interesting.

Sure baddies will say "There are a lot/several civs who voted X" I have seen it happen but I have also seen players like Fortuna latching on without putting themselves out there in the limelight like Athena did. I am going to be very interested to see what happens with these three as this day progresses.

Why would someone insanify my Mom Ceres? I do not remember anything in her posts but perhaps I should read back she may have struck someones nerve. It does seem as if she is saying she thinks Poseidon is Mr Stone because of how Mr Stones picture was added late and that Poseidon had shown up late as well. They both showed up around the same time - is this right Mother? I also think she is saying Arte is a smooth tongued poster.

Prometheus' seeming to defend Arte pinged me slightly.

Still watching Apollo who has quieted down a bit today - but so did I because of rl. So yes I am still a bit suspicious of him from day 1.

Eros post about Mars has me wondering what you mean. Explain please. Some might say that post of yours is bullshit as you do not explain what makes it bullshit. lol

Gosh we are so lucky to have so much to discuss. It will hopefully lead to a better lynch than the last one.

I will be in and out today to discuss.

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@Hercules - sparse? Really? I found it quite helpful and active tbh.

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I forgot to say I voted for Wisconsin - that 70's show plus the string cheese I am eating led to my decision.

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Aww RIP Hermes. So sorry you were taken out so soon.

Damn I almost voted for you as well but went with my gut. Still a lot of interesting discussion today.

Great pictures everyone! Its going to be hard to pick just one

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I am going with my gut on this one and voting Apollo. He has seemed all over the place. Poseidon to Fortuna then to Hermes leaves me wondering. I think I have stated all my other suspicions well enough already.

Votes: Apollo

LOL Artemis @ Herpes

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Prom's vote pinged me as well - just like Hermes and Mars did.

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deciding my vote real soon

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Wow my last post should not have gone through. I was going to respond but Apollo had beaten me to it.

I would just add that if You (Hermes) was only able to post in video on Day 1 and was unable to defend or post properly at all, how would you like it if people started voting for you "randomly" without rhyme nor reason because it is just random? Thats why random just never works! Its always better to look for some sort of reasoning especially with all thats been going on OI am suprised by the amount of random votes tbh.

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Hermes wrote:Does medusa being insanified make her 100% confirmed civvie?

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If I was randomizing I would remove Medusa and Phoenix tbh.

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Apollo wrote:
Persephone wrote: Link Apollo - Its not a question but a response to your response about your wanting to vote Poseidon. You said what about it - so I answered.
Glad I could help.

Glad my point about it still stands.

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Yep thats what I am saying Hermes and I am not alone in my thinking.

Nice no u

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Hermes wrote:Sorry I don't know what's going on in the thread, I'm yet to catch up which is why I voted random.

Also, just because someone is insanified does that mean she is exempt from a day one lynch? It's day one, it's a hard poll. I don't think anyone should be exempt.

How often is someone insanified on day 1? Hardly ever!

Would you want to be voted for while you could only post Elvis videos and could not give opinions or defend?

Big eye Hermes

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Link Apollo - Its not a question but a response to your response about your wanting to vote Poseidon. You said what about it - so I answered.

still 15

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Me thinks I have hit a nerve of Apollo.

What do you mean what about? You defended it. You defined it to me in more than one post.

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Its not that you were not her Poseidon its that you failed to vote in the Day 0 poll.

hmm

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I am going to vote for one of the following most likely:

Mars - weird early vote, stranger reasoning.

Hermes - weird flyby vote without adding to the discussion or noting that Medusa is under some kind of posting thing.

Apollo - his willingness to follow a vote that had not even happened or alluded to. I find it strange that he was willing to follow a vote by someone who is under a posting thing and is unable to fully explain.

these are subject to change but unlikely given the amount of time left for this lynch.

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what about your wanting to vote for Poseidon Apollo?

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