The Syndicate

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

Apollo wrote:Votes Phoenix

Electra wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

What?

Aphrodite, you, nor anyone else, has given a single reason to vote me.

Well, I am pretty sure I am pretty much alone among baddies.

I am still here Chronos! I will be joining your Phoenix vote, but I'm waiting to see what Zeus and Ceres do first (I assume Phoenix will either vote for you or miss the vote, the wily devil.)

Zeus is probably gonna vote for me.

For what reason? Who even knows? No one in the past two days has given an actual reason why I should be lynched.

Hermes, Artemis
And Fortuna cry out loud
Your dead condemn you

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

What?

Aphrodite, you, nor anyone else, has given a single reason to vote me.

Well, I am pretty sure I am pretty much alone among baddies.

I am still here Chronos! I will be joining your Phoenix vote, but I'm waiting to see what Zeus and Ceres do first (I assume Phoenix will either vote for you or miss the vote, the wily devil.)

Aphrodite wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Zeus wrote:Solum facit quod me incunctanter rogandis chronos est Eostre eum resurrexisse. Num et ipsa quamque teneor.

Rezzing me was no mistake...

Tbh I am reviewing all my thoughts. I am wondering about everyone I previously have trusted.

Do you believe there has been recruiting?
Because I do.

This game is ott with secrets and vote manips. Nothing has been what it seemed all game. Some people I would have sworn they were good have turned up bad and vice-versa. So I have to wonder if what i believe is true actually is.

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

Zeus wrote:Solum facit quod me incunctanter rogandis chronos est Eostre eum resurrexisse. Num et ipsa quamque teneor.

Electra wrote:Out of time, I think
The hourglass is out of sand
Timex is bullshit

Athena wrote:Not sure what you mean. It would be dangerous to assume that there has been no recruitment (which is my own belief) or it would be dangerous to think that there may have been?

Athena wrote:What about recruitment? If both teams had a recruit (which is common in games where the bad guys have only 3 on a team, and it would have to be both teams in some form or other--standard recruit or rez someone onto the team) for the sake of balance. There could be more baddies than we'd like to think.

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:Does anyone want to discuss how many baddies are on each team? We know there's only one left on the Spookshaw. At most two on the new Gods, right?

Anyone think one of the New Gods got NK'd? Just looking at how many players are left, it's very possible.

I'm thinking one left on each team, because I think Pandora's flip was a lie.

S~V~S wrote:Assuming said team members have not transcended this reality and moved on to another spiritual plane, why yes

Mars wrote:I can't even be mad at Chronos, since he's a fellow Whovian.

Medusa wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Medusa wrote:i'd love to visit Maryland but I'm stranded in the medusa cascade

Someone watches Doctor Who?

doesnt everyone?

Medusa wrote:i'd love to visit Maryland but I'm stranded in the medusa cascade

Mars wrote:This is a busy time of year for me, sorry I'm not around much.

As for my suspicions, Chronos, I do think it's odd how you seem to be calling everyone out, almost like you're just trying to see what will stick. I also am not sure what to think of Apollo and Phoenix, they seem to be locked onto each other. I'm feeling better about Apollo than Phoenix though. Helios I'm probably leaning the most civ on, he comes across as sincere.

Also, Electra has been pretty quiet lately. Wasn't she a fairly big point of discussion a couple days ago? Now she's just kind of gone.

Phoenix wrote:

Athena wrote:

Phoenix wrote:I know I will probably be getting several votes today and in all likelihood I will by the one that is lynched.

Lynching me will not help our cause, my fellow civvies. If you want to win, don't lynch me. In case no one has put it together by now, I am doing what I can to help. Hinzleman has obviously jumped onto this bogus "Phoenix must be Hinzleman" idea. I have missed the last 2 votes to try to force Hinz's hand. He had to either try to kill on a day where I missed the lynch vote...which would have proven to everyone that they were looking in the wrong direction...OR it would keep him from killing. It's really a shame that I've had to resort to this and you will see why when my role is revealed.

Anyway, I hope that my fellow civvies will not jump aboard this bandwagon and look elsewhere.

Sorry if I missed you saying it, but who do you think is Hinzelmann?

Apollo.

I don't really even understand why he has been so adamant about me being the best suspect for Hinzleman. Where is the evidence? Hinzleman killed on night 1 and whatever night Medusa was killed, right? So, how does that point to me?

I think Apollo could be Hinzleman because of how he's kept saying that I'm likely Hinzleman over and over and over again but has never really seamed to want me to actually be lynched. It's seemed very odd.

Does it really even make sense for Hinzleman to be me? I don't see it.

Athena wrote:

Phoenix wrote:I know I will probably be getting several votes today and in all likelihood I will by the one that is lynched.

Lynching me will not help our cause, my fellow civvies. If you want to win, don't lynch me. In case no one has put it together by now, I am doing what I can to help. Hinzleman has obviously jumped onto this bogus "Phoenix must be Hinzleman" idea. I have missed the last 2 votes to try to force Hinz's hand. He had to either try to kill on a day where I missed the lynch vote...which would have proven to everyone that they were looking in the wrong direction...OR it would keep him from killing. It's really a shame that I've had to resort to this and you will see why when my role is revealed.

Anyway, I hope that my fellow civvies will not jump aboard this bandwagon and look elsewhere.

Sorry if I missed you saying it, but who do you think is Hinzelmann?

Athena wrote:Out of curiosity, did anyone seem connected to Pandora?

Zeus wrote:i was silenced yesterday. Although nobody noticed.

Helios wrote: I told one person I don't like that style of case-building. I am sorry my opinion is not exactly the same as yours on all matters.

Pluto wrote:Wait, I'm still alive?! Yay!!!!! Also, another excellent result in that we have another confirmed baddie down. BIH Vesta!

Chronos, I'll comment on it tomorrow. Right now I'm very tired and my brain is a bit addled.

Aphrodite wrote:Every time Pluto is up for lynch someone else dies although this time with some kick ass results!
BIH Mr Town

When else have I been up or come close to being lynched? Because this is the first time in this game I remember it happening.

Helios wrote:Alright that one was definitely my fault. Thought the lynch was tomorry.

Ceres wrote:Sunshine, keep this in mind

Mum always said not to forget your mitts when it's cold outside.

Chronos wrote:Ceres, you think Helios is on a baddie team?

It is very much a possibility. I''m really glad you were able to join us for dinner, dear. Seconds? Get it?

Helios wrote: I've been hella busy lately can answer most of this. I vote for night votes because they require no thought whatsoever. And I'd rather not everyone be on me for just no-thought voting every day poll. Anyways, I'm sleuthing now as you can see, so there.

And what do you mean you've finally seen the light. Because I questioned you? :rolleyesemoticonidon'tthinkwehavehereyet:

This is not how you were raised, my darling boy. All your actions and this kind of justification, work against you, the light is what you really are. You look like you're coming down with something. Here, take this scarf.

Thank you for your insightful answer.

Chronos wrote: Do you have any thoughts of your own?

Iunno. Ceres appears to want me gone a fair bit with the run-of-the-mill "u r teh quiet lel" suspicion. I don't trust anyone who goes solely off that when they've been so active and have so much more at this stage. It's a very easy and inoffensive thing to do. Speaking of Ceres, another question for her.

Electra wrote:I am mystified that the shrouded one has gone eight entire Days evading any form of meaningful scrutiny. Impressive.

About half of Vesta's 76 posts are fluff (entertaining fluff, but fluff still).

Day 1: Hermes
Day 2: Artemis
Day 3: Artemis
Day 4: Missed
Day 5: Phoenix
Day 6: Phoenix
Day 7: Missed

A terrible week, wouldn't you say?

Poor perception as well, at times:

Vesta wrote: Very useful. 7 Wisconsin voters, one now dead, leaving 6 Wisconsin voters. Therefore it is no longer 1 in 7 odds. For each of us Wissies we know our own roles, so 1 in 5 odds. Of those on the list, Electra is not eligible for a vote today, leaving 4 options for today.
My options would be:

Persephone
Apollo
Athena
Prometheus

Irregardless of the Wisconsin vote, Prometheus stood out to me for his Day 1 defense of it doesn't matter who dies. However, since Hermes flipped civ that gives me pause. Persephone made a good point about Athena vs. Artemis switching focus away from Wisconsin voters. Of the 4 listed, I personally have the most suspicions of Athena and Prom-boy. My vote will be going to one of these two depending on what happens in thread.

This could all be a huge waste of time though if Hinzelman really is Electra.

With no Day 1 Electra vote, how could Hinzlemann have made an attempt on Night 1?

Oh wait- Vesta figured out this principle the same day:

Vesta wrote: Athena could not be Hinzelman if she didn't vote, but have any of his kills gone through?

Indeed, much of Vesta's focus seems to be on tracking down Hinzlemann. Even after Hercules was lynched, there still seems to be a focus on the serial killer. And Vesta still spoke as though I could be it.

Vesta wrote:For possible last new gods I can't decide if a Herc teammate would vote to save or throw him to the wolves. If they had already lost a teammate than it might be worth it to try and save him, which makes me look at Phoenix's vote particularly because he tied in with Zeus. However if they gave up on him then Ceres or Zeus as the last Herc voters might be possible. Chronos and Mars are other options if they wanted to stop the tide against Herc, but I think that is less likely. Since Zeus was an early suspecter of Herc, it's more likely that Phoenix is the possible candidate for the last new god.

At quick count looks like Electra, Helios, and Poseidon missed the last vote.
(Herc too, but we know who he turned out to be )
Haven't heard anything from Electra really, have we? She was also a Wisconsin voter if I remember, but that option may have not done anything for Hinzie if WJ is right. If not, then highly possible as an inactive spook too. As of right now I am voting Electra as place holder since we can change votes.

I want to look at low posters next as well.

Votes Electra

Another thing that bothers me in retrospect:

Vesta wrote:

Eros wrote:

Vesta wrote: I have a hard time believing that Eros has no candidates. I find I suspect everyone first, then slowly start trusting others, so my list is rather long, but not conclusive at this point, which is really the problem. Who to pick?

In other words, Vesta, you and I are at the same stage.

Now knowing who Eros was, he clearly had people he trusted.

Going to post this now to give people time to reflect on what it could mean.

Ceres wrote:

Mom always says to be polite and respect your elders.

I'm being so silly again. That was an impersonal 'your', for everyone. I am very sorry about that. Have a brownie!

Electra wrote:Athena voted third for Hercules. That does her credit.

I do wonder about this ancient exchange:

Athena wrote:

Ceres wrote:In an attempt to give Athena a chance to defend herself, here are my thoughts:

1. The Artemis episode was extremely confusing. I went back and forth on who was the non-civ in that equation because to me this was too elaborate to be a civ on civ dispute, and at one point I really thought there were two baddies involved. Artemis made a 'slip', which could have been completely plausible at the time, but that is not what made me suspect her, it was her very calm and calculated reply to Persephone's post. Athena on the other hand, has the "I know I'm a civ", "I'm just a civ' rhetoric which to me always sounds like baddies trying to convince themselves that they are civs.
2. Survived a night kill.
3. She has explained why she used the term 'curse' when people were talking about insanification in Arte's case, but I still get the feeling that she knew something the rest of us didn't.

This is the best I have so far, although I have to admit that Fortuna is in a similar situation:
1. 'I know I'm a civ which means that my defense attorney is also a civ.'
2. Managed to survive on day 3.

1. It was either civ on civ, or she's a seemer type role. And I can't help but know my own role. I'm sorry if stating that I'm civ is suspicious. I'm not sure I see how it is, but whatever.

2. Yes, I did. And I am thankful for having been protected. How is that suspicious?

3. I really don't understand this one, still. In my mafia experience, the term curse is generally used as a posting restriction that a player has. How is that not what was happening? What term would you use for "a posting restriction that is given by another player through their role or by the hosts"? Curse has always been what I've seen used, and so I use that term.

Your reasons don't add up to me being bad. I respect that they make you suspect me, although I don't really see how any of them are suspicious. But, like some others didn't see what I did in Artemis' posts, we all play the game differently. Sometimes, things that are not how we play look suspicious because it's not what we ourselves would do.

linkitis: Again, how is surviving a night kill attempt suspicious? And how does suspecting another player and making a case mean someone is bad?

Ceres wrote:Chronos, when you get to your dessert, keep this in mind

Mom says to always spit those watermelon seeds because you really don't want a giant watermelon growing inside you.

I hope I am not too rude, but I would like to bring to your attention the case of another couple of very naughty boys. First there's Mars. He defends that boy with no manners, Hercules, I don't know why, maybe because they are playground buddies and they are so similar, not to mention the fact that he constantly goes to war without putting on his armor. I'm shocked. Then there's Pluto. He's tied with Phoenix, is the only one who suspects Eros, and what is the lynch result? Exactly! Having Phoenix lynched would have been too obvious because of his voting record. And let's not forget his cry of joy that he was not on the poll. So fake! And wishing better luck to that other bully. Such a bad boy. Both of you bad boys!

Aphrodite wrote:I feel like my suspicion list goes like:

Mars
Pluto
Helios
Apollo

Apollo why didn`t you respond to Phoenixs last post? Asking about your "case" and that you really haven`t tried to lynch him and when you had the chance to finally vote him after talking about him for DAYS you did not vote for him. tbh its that post of his coupled with Ceres thoughts that really make me doubt he is in fact Hinzelman.

Aphrodite wrote:Wonder what happened to Athena??

Electra wrote:Scallop shells really start to stink in the sunshine.

Know what I mean?

For a breath of fresh air, I think I'll examine those who have had next to no scrutiny, though I'm still quite likely to vote Mars.