The Syndicate

Chronos wrote:

Zeus wrote:Solum facit quod me incunctanter rogandis chronos est Eostre eum resurrexisse. Num et ipsa quamque teneor.

Rezzing me was no mistake...

Ceres wrote:

Mom always says that carrots are good for your eyesight.

I wonder where everyone is. Did they not like my chicken casserole? Where are the other two bad boys? The sunny one is running away from responsibility yet again. Such a shame. It makes his case even worse. Same goes for Milky Way.

linki - Aphro, would you like to try my chicken casserole?

Aphrodite wrote:

Pluto wrote:Aphrodite seems awfully quick to jump at Apollo for discussing the 'yet' thing from Pandora and then not voting that way. I can understand why Apollo didn't vote for Pandora in that situation though.

I think right now, I'm leaning toward either Aphrodite, Phoenix, or Mars for today's vote. Phoenix because of him jumping on Apollo's theory/case and I've had bad vibes from him most of the game. Mars because he seems to have very shoddy reasons for any of his votes.

I think you need to look closer at my post about Apollo. That is not the reasons I found him suspicious tbqh.

Mars wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:Mars You voted Poseidon d1 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d 2 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d3 lynched a civ.
Day 4 you failed to vote.
You vote Zeus not lynched.

Day one flimsy reason for voting Poseidon. The next day you drop Poseidon and latch onto the Artemis wagon. You vote for him 2 days in a row but the kicker is that even though several reasons were listed you vote Artemis day 4 because you felt his curse was faked because why would the hosts not let you say anything on topic or defend yourself. Funny you didn`t mention your fake curse of insanification. Why would the hosts allow it? You couldn`t post anything readable on topic nor could you have defended yourself.
So It is ok in your mafia playbook to vote for someone cursed even though they cannot defend nor be understood and read right?

Day 4 you missed the vote but said you were not suspicious of Hercules but would have voted Athena thats so funny because......

Day 5 you do not vote Athena because you see nothing damning about her even though you were ready to vote for her day 4 lol so contradictory haha what is even better is that you vote Zeus the person who is defending her why? Funny reason tbh... you claim he was trying for civ cred. I do not see how it is possible for the baddies to know who is exactly civ becasue there are two baddie teams. No way to know for 100%. Your whole vote post read as insincere and justtrying to find any reason not to vote for Hercules who you again defended by saying you thought it odd people were discussing him each day.

So what say you about you voting past and reasons?

Tbh you are my top suspect for todays lynch.

You're twisting my words about Artemis. I clearly believe that there's actual insanification in this game, considering I myself was insanified (that would be an incredibly stupid thing for me to claim otherwise, and I like to think I'm a slightly better player than that). My main issue with Artemis, which I expressed in the thread, was that a. several people seemed to be insanified at the same time, and it seems unlikely that there would be that many insanifiers in one game, and b. Artemis' insanification didn't read like any I've actually encountered before, which led me to believe it was made up.

This game has loads of secrets, so I don't see how it's so unlikely a baddie team could have gotten a role check or something, and that's what I was suspecting with Zeus. I was never terribly suspicious of Athena, but I would have voted her over Hercules in Day 4 because I was actually leaning civ on him. Obviously I was way off, but I simply didn't get bad vibes from him.

I readily admit that several of my reasons have been flimsy, because honestly I've not been as attentive in this game as I should be. It doesn't make me a baddie, just a bad civvie. But I have been trying to go with whatever makes the most sense to me.

I am not purposely twisting your words its just how you read to me.

Another question what did you find that made you so sure of Hercules that you defended him when his name was brought up? (two times that I noticed)

Aphrodite wrote:PS Mars I do find it unlikely the baddies got a
rolecheck. Maybe a dead rolecheck but not a regular
rolecheck as I believe that would skew the balance
of the game.

Apollo wrote:

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo why didn`t you respond to Phoenixs last post? Asking about your "case" and that you really haven`t tried to lynch him and when you had the chance to finally vote him after talking about him for DAYS you did not vote for him. tbh its that post of his coupled with Ceres thoughts that really make me doubt he is in fact Hinzelman.

I've explained more than once that I didn't vote for him two days ago because by that time I thought Hinzelmann was probably dead. When Hinzelmann proved to be alive, I immediately voted for Phoenix (for which you criticized me. Make up your mind.)

Then he miraculously survived the lynch which should have claimed either his or Pluto's life, and I cannot vote for him today. Why didn't I "lead" a lynch against him? I was unaware that I held a leadership position in this body. I voted for him yesterday and convinced many others to do the same. I'm not sure what else I could have done. I will be voting for him again tomorrow, assuming I survive that long. I still think his voting record tallies with Hinzelmann's kills better than that of any other player.

Pluto wrote:Had absolutely no time to check in and vote at all today. Really sorry about that. RIP Eros. I'm sorry I doubted you at times. Probably would have voted Phoenix again today.

I would like to hear more from those who voted for me about why I'm so suspicious? Because either there isn't much of a case on me or I missed something somewhere. Quotes would be nice as well.

Apollo wrote:Oh, and I voted West Virginia because I want to go east!

Phoenix wrote:Apollo setting himself up for an epic fail.

Aphrodite wrote:Eros I am not worried if people look at me I have nothing to hide.I am trying to prove myself as we all are. I don't know why the Apollo voted Wisconsin. Following that logic got us no where and aren't you one that believes everything WZ says because he said no one got anything for voting Wisconsin. I don't believe that but you may.

Apollo - yes lets [img]http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj18 ... er.gif[img] Are you most sure about Phoenix? More so than Helios, Pluto, Ares or Mars?


OO thanks for looking at Pluto Eros I knew his votes were wonky but had not got to do an analysis.

Ceres wrote:Since nothing is happening and I really have to go, I'll vote for Helios. If he's not the SK, I can see him being part of a baddie team where his teammates keep him posted, so why should he bother to catch up in the first place?

Eros wrote:I recall voting for you one Day and you didn't seem bothered by that one bit. It would seem you have the civilians firmly on your side, which would mean you are in an extremely comfortable position as Hinzelman.

Apollo wrote:

Electra wrote:Hmmm... now that I think about it, I have a few questions. What has Eros's opinion been of Apollo for the duration of the game so far?

Also, what's the theory behind why players are being removed from the poll?

And who does everyone think is most bad right now (only one name please, if you had to choose) and why?

Thanks!!!!

Oh man, I did not even notice that I am not on the poll. Prometheus flipped Mr. Ibis, but we have some reason to believe that not everyone is flipping correctly, so maybe he is still alive. Otherwise, I have no explanation.

Eros was suspicious of me at first, but seems to have decided to trust me now.

My top suspect is Phoenix today, because I think he is most likely to be Hinzelmann.

Zeus wrote:

Eros wrote:I believe Apollo is a good guy. My vote for him not too long ago was entirely in jest. I believe he has our best interests in mind despite his rough voting record. He and I see eye to eye on numerous things, and that makes me feel good about him.

There is something up here.

Apollo wrote:Who am I kidding. I do know where my vote is going, and I'm busy tomorrow so I might as well do it now.

*Votes Phoenix*

S~V~S wrote:I will write a better post later with videos and such~ I am right in the middle of stuff, lol~

Poor Pandora, being reborn did not help her much.

Pandora has been lynched, she was Low Key Liesmith

Your choice tonight~ Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock

Mars wrote:Phoenix's insistence on being a lazy civ is striking me as weirdly genuine. It probably doesn't matter at this point, but I'll *vote Pandora*. If she comes back bad I'll be right back on Phoenix though.

Pandora wrote:There also seems to be many inactive players. This also contributes to the confusion. I kind of feel like I am an armed man walking into a room full of people who are all wearing the same costume. Who do I shoot?

Zeus wrote:Personally I don't feel great about Pluto especially after his quick in and out vote for me. But this Mars stuff is interesting. Not sure about Apollo and still haven't made my mind up about the "You have no reason to suspect me yet" comment. I can see it could be quite innocent but on the other hand...who said it anyway?
I feel Eros is trustworthy however.

Vesta wrote:

Phoenix wrote:correct me if I'm wrong here, but it appears to me that the "case" on Artemis is the supposed "slip" with the "lots of civs voted..." thing and then there seems to be a few circumstantial things that seem reaching a bit. Is there any actual solid evidence?

The things that Apollo said about Fortuna seems more solid than the Artemis stuff in my opinion.

Phoenix wrote:The more I read the more the case on Artemis seems like a trumped up bandwagon. I can't remember who said it, but when people call something a slip it's usually only a slip if it's blatant. Twisting english to make something a slip does not make it actually a slip.,

Phoenix wrote:

Pandora wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.

Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.

Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.

That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."

I have been rereading Phoenix and notice that he jumps at other's cases quite often. I found it interesting that in the case on Artemis he thinks slips are unimportant, but with Pandora, now that he is being discussed as a candidate too, they are suddenly important. He acknowledges this is "more of a slip," and I agree that Pandora's statement sounds more of a slip than Artemis, but seems opportunistic and inconsistent to me. This combined with his vote for Zeus making it a tie with Herc, has me pretty suspicious of his intentions.

I am likely to vote here, since my vote for Helios didnt make him magically appear like Electra.

Pluto wrote:Aphrodite seems awfully quick to jump at Apollo for discussing the 'yet' thing from Pandora and then not voting that way. I can understand why Apollo didn't vote for Pandora in that situation though.

I think right now, I'm leaning toward either Aphrodite, Phoenix, or Mars for today's vote. Phoenix because of him jumping on Apollo's theory/case and I've had bad vibes from him most of the game. Mars because he seems to have very shoddy reasons for any of his votes.

Mars wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:Mars You voted Poseidon d1 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d 2 not lynched.
You voted Artemis d3 lynched a civ.
Day 4 you failed to vote.
You vote Zeus not lynched.

Day one flimsy reason for voting Poseidon. The next day you drop Poseidon and latch onto the Artemis wagon. You vote for him 2 days in a row but the kicker is that even though several reasons were listed you vote Artemis day 4 because you felt his curse was faked because why would the hosts not let you say anything on topic or defend yourself. Funny you didn`t mention your fake curse of insanification. Why would the hosts allow it? You couldn`t post anything readable on topic nor could you have defended yourself.
So It is ok in your mafia playbook to vote for someone cursed even though they cannot defend nor be understood and read right?

Day 4 you missed the vote but said you were not suspicious of Hercules but would have voted Athena thats so funny because......

Day 5 you do not vote Athena because you see nothing damning about her even though you were ready to vote for her day 4 lol so contradictory haha what is even better is that you vote Zeus the person who is defending her why? Funny reason tbh... you claim he was trying for civ cred. I do not see how it is possible for the baddies to know who is exactly civ becasue there are two baddie teams. No way to know for 100%. Your whole vote post read as insincere and justtrying to find any reason not to vote for Hercules who you again defended by saying you thought it odd people were discussing him each day.

So what say you about you voting past and reasons?

Tbh you are my top suspect for todays lynch.

You're twisting my words about Artemis. I clearly believe that there's actual insanification in this game, considering I myself was insanified (that would be an incredibly stupid thing for me to claim otherwise, and I like to think I'm a slightly better player than that). My main issue with Artemis, which I expressed in the thread, was that a. several people seemed to be insanified at the same time, and it seems unlikely that there would be that many insanifiers in one game, and b. Artemis' insanification didn't read like any I've actually encountered before, which led me to believe it was made up.

This game has loads of secrets, so I don't see how it's so unlikely a baddie team could have gotten a role check or something, and that's what I was suspecting with Zeus. I was never terribly suspicious of Athena, but I would have voted her over Hercules in Day 4 because I was actually leaning civ on him. Obviously I was way off, but I simply didn't get bad vibes from him.

I readily admit that several of my reasons have been flimsy, because honestly I've not been as attentive in this game as I should be. It doesn't make me a baddie, just a bad civvie. But I have been trying to go with whatever makes the most sense to me.

Eros wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:

Eros wrote:

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?

I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.

I am sorry. I was at work I thought he was doing a vote analysis not a summary. I never said anything regarding a summary.

But again I will ask what is the case on Pandora?

I never said I didn`t need anyone and thats mean to imply. We all need to work together with everyone giving opinions whether we agree with them or not that is the best way I know how to find baddies.

The context was clear that he was not providing an analysis, and what's more, he said as much.

But I'll leave it.

Here's the Pandora thing:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 679#p39679

And Mars is no good, if you ask me:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 700#p39700

Eros wrote:

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?

I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.