The Syndicate

well, there you go

I think we're doing mighty fine.

Sorry I haven't been here all day. Lots of work

I think the obvious vote is Jack.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:53 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:50 pm
nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:00 pm Oh dear. We have people over this weekend, so I’ll likely be even more sporadically reading and posting than I already do. Same old same old, I guess.
@nijuukyugou cake for you if you can actually tell me what is going on in the game :P
Elo is there anything the rest of us can help you with? There was a lot of posting this afternoon I know.

@juliets. Thank you for checking in on me. I was so confused, but I think nova explained it pretty well. And I think I understand the whole jack/chuck talk. I am kind of taking a back seat right now to see what all happens, tbh. I feel like the game has been flipped upside down. I think the best thing is what you and Jay are doing by comparing players to known mafia (or potential mafia).

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:29 pm damn it. i'm still alive.

what kind of reaction is that?

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:00 pm Oh dear. We have people over this weekend, so I’ll likely be even more sporadically reading and posting than I already do. Same old same old, I guess.

[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention] cake for you if you can actually tell me what is going on in the game :P

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:01 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kidding
Not possible. Jack allegedly visited Nutella during the day, he should have been seen visiting Eloh if he's truthful and got tracked.

I am not gonna lie. I am very confused by everything that has been said in the past few hours.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm @Elohcin is your role something that can be for both alignments? don't claim, just a y/n is enough please.

yes.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:27 am my coworker asked me yesterday why my screen was always so dark. look away, mofo. look away.

Haha, that's awesome. Have you ever tried to explain the game to someone? Don't! They will think you are so weird. That's like 10th date material.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:17 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:29 am I am not sure what I think of LC now. Why would he come out and say he is 100% sure Jack is bad. If he is telling the truth and he can determine the alignment of a player as his power, then why give up his life (of course Mafia would kill him now, right?). There are still other mafia left. Wouldn't he want to be a little more vague and keep him life so he can keep playing and keep helping the civs catch baddies? Couldn't he put a little more effort in and build a case on Jack and get us to follow? I just don't know. I am confused.
Based on the claim, I'd say his role is obscenely difficult to nab a baddie with and that he got lucky. "Water turned to wine twice" or two nights in a row. It took two nights of luck for him to catch Jack.
That's like having a maybe-it-works-every-other-night cop. Not really worth protecting that slim-to-none possibility of another success instead of taking out a deepwolf leader.

Also, it would take a ton of time to case Jack in any convincing way, if it is possible to do so, and Long Con hasn't exactly been a top poster. Easier to just hand his stroke of luck over to town and see what happens.

wow, thank you for this chuck. I appreciate your understanding of this and for sharing it. I'm excited now.

thanks [mention]juliets[/mention]

@juliets, what do you think of this? Do you trust it?

I am not sure what I think of LC now. Why would he come out and say he is 100% sure Jack is bad. If he is telling the truth and he can determine the alignment of a player as his power, then why give up his life (of course Mafia would kill him now, right?). There are still other mafia left. Wouldn't he want to be a little more vague and keep him life so he can keep playing and keep helping the civs catch baddies? Couldn't he put a little more effort in and build a case on Jack and get us to follow? I just don't know. I am confused.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:10 pm I'm curious what you think Luna's civ self should look like and what you saw that made you change your mind on her. Elohcin

Luna always has such a sweet demeanor, very kind tone. And I feel like I always give her the benefit of the doubt for this. But this time....she is almost too sweet. Like....trying to cover up something.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:12 pm Elohcin could you be more specific on what looks odd about kites posts? I'm taking another look at him now.

I see an immaturity in his posts. Like he is trying to make it LOOK like he is trying.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:45 pm Elohcin, i don't know any of your scum reads. change that.

i dont have time to go through the rest of ddl, but i have no idea how jay put him in dark green. he's not clear for me.

this post is for Jay too as I told him I would tell him...

I know I fought for her in the beginning, but Luna has become one of my top suspects. She isn't acting like her civ self. Also, Kites. I don't know this person well, but his posts seem odd. Then there is Mata. I think this person could be bad. The whole building connections thing but will not tell us, that was weird. His "helpfulness" doesn't seem so helpful.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:46 pm That was a lovely summary, Jay

I'd like to hear more from you. I always think you are civ b/c of your tone, but I am starting to wonder here. Who do you think is bad? What are your thoughts on the game so far?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:55 pm Wait what.. When did Niju actually vote for Nutella? If Mac had a few more votes, than what are we even talking about?

RIGHT. Niju couldn't have saved Mac with her vote and it's not like she tried to get others to swith off mac and vote with her. She was just being a lazy civ imo.

posting now...still catching up...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:26 am I’d be interested to know who your own suspects are, Elohcin.

I will have these to you before I go to bed tonight. I really gotta go get to work. I am pressure washing the back deck and the house trim today and I need to get it done before it gets too hot outside. I'm doing it this week b/c less cake work, Epi is home for spring break to be with the kids, and I was able to borrow the pressure washer machine.

My involvement is directly related to the amount of work I have. This week, I have two cupcake orders and that is all. I can be involved.

I couldn't even tell you the games I was bad in. Once I am out of the game, the name of the game is gone from my head. I didn't even remember the name of the Gossip Girl game I brought up, I just remembered the way I was treated. If you notice, it was Dunya that mentioned the title as she was the host. I have too many RL things to remember to keep mafia details in my head.

I want to hear more from chuck today. Are you off your meds man?

ebwop *one meaningful post a day* That is how niju plays when she is paying attention. she comes in once a day, takes it all in and gives a meaningful post and then is out.

sorry, I was getting coffee and what not. I do have to go soon and get to work.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:04 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:59 am I think LC and niju would be easy targets for mafia. Honestly, I think they are civs who just aren't paying attention to a damn thing. They are the kind of civs this game that keep civs from winning.

I'm going to be working most of today. I'll probably only be back come Day 2
Why do you think they’re civs?

I think they would be here and paying more attention if they were bad. Niju would be making at least one meaningful post. She would be trying instead of forgetting. I have been in her shoes - civ, busy, and forgetting I am even playing mafia. I have never forgotten I am playing when I am mafia. LC is one of the syndicate's original hard core players. Maybe things have changed for him, but I don't think he would sign up to play and be this lazy if he were bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:48 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:44 amWhy niju? You opinions of baddies seem to be jumping arround. Have you played with niju lately? This is normal.
Click here

Yeah, sorry. I shouldn't have asked. I was reading backwards. Never done that before and probably won't again. Doesn't work for me.

I think LC and niju would be easy targets for mafia. Honestly, I think they are civs who just aren't paying attention to a damn thing. They are the kind of civs this game that keep civs from winning.

I'm going to be working most of today. I'll probably only be back come Day 2

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:22 pm Based on a combination of those interactions and my impressions of players at face value:

Dragon D. Luffy
dunya
nutella

Jackofhearts2005
juliets
Kites
Matahari
novaselinenever
Spacedaisy

Elohcin
leetic
Long Con
Lunalee
Neverwhere
reywaS

speedchuck

nijuukyugou

Why niju? You opinions of baddies seem to be jumping arround. Have you played with niju lately? This is normal.

I shouldn't be starting at the end and.going backwards with reading thr thread, but I'm on my phone and it would be difficult to find where I left off.

Matahari wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:36 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:31 am I'm not sure on how to feel about Matahari's read posts. Feels like they belong to mid-D1 rather than the aftermath of a lynch and a Mafia flip.
That’s because some of them are. Several people asked me to post what I had, so I did, even though things can change from day to day.
To be fair about Elohcin, I’ve spent the last couple hours rereading Gossip Girl. Elo called the posting style a Chinese fire drill, and commented on how things were moving too fast near eod. But she handled it well and discussed changing her vote on a few of the lynches. On day 4, reywaS was lynched, and he had been gone most of the day. He posted early about who he would vote for, but he never came back. Close to eod, elohcin noted that she hoped he would come back and vote to tie things up. She was a civ, she tried to be fair, she did comment on the craziness of all the last minute stuff, but she didn’t get upset about it. Probably because Rey could have come back if he wanted.
But I still don’t feel good about her being so upset today.

Rey was in discord at that time talking with friends (including me). He could have come in and voted. He could have participated. He chose not to. I did not feel bad voting him. You are missing my point.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:56 pm Very early in game, I thought I saw a subtle connection between DDL and Nova. Not indicating good or bad, just kind of having civil conversation, in and around lots of Jay posts. I thought it might develop into something indicating something, but it stopped after the thread got so busy. I also thought I saw a connection between Juliet’s and Jay, a bit later, but I didn’t see the connection with Jack that someone else brought up. Anyway, early stuff got dropped with more recent stuff.

DDL no read, not a boat rocker?
Dunya town
Elohcin leaning bad, I don’t think her posts felt genuine, but her reaction to the lynch was more important. I remember in Gossip Girl, I wasn’t really crazy about the way the lynches were handled, but I came around to appreciating it. Elohcin played that game but she didn’t get upset at all over the last minute vote switching. Her reaction today felt personal.

I’ll be back in a few with more.

Did we have people playing that game who were asleep when lynched?

I remember a time on this site when, if sanified, you would not be lynched. Players gave you a phase so you had a chance to defend yourself in case you were civ. These days, players will ignore you for a whole phase b/c someone made a confident, but wrong, claim. Even if you are pleading with them to listen. These days, you can be accused and lynched without being given a moment for defense. The fact that mac was bad is beside the point. I'm glad y'all got him. Good for you. But it's the principle. Jack can say I complain a lot. Fuck that... I have principles.

Now... I'm done talking about this. It is only taking away from finding baddies in this game. I am setting my feelings aside and moving forward.
We got a baddie!!! Let's do it again.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:47 pm Dunya also townlock.

all these townlocks. SMH.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:41 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:18 pm can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy
What? I didn’t say jay bussed anyone. jay was the one who instigated that lynch.

I thought bus=instigator, sorry.

can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy

another reason you can't do this crap, JJJ, is b/c of time zones. it is very disrespectful to those across the pond. Mac may be bad, and if so....good for those voters, praise be. But if not, that poor man had no way to defend himself b/c the thread decided to change things up on him while he was asleep. this is why we have 24 hours to discuss, so that everyone can be involved WHEN THEY ARE AWAKE. Voting someone while they are asleep and not giving them time to rebuttle is horrible.

linki...okay, he was mafia. my point still stands.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:06 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:01 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:58 pm I hate to see all this stirring up here at the end. Daisy says she is voting Mac b/c she is sleep deprived and annoyed and "I hope you're right Jay" but Jay is on neverwhere and not Mac. WTF people. we had 24 hours to work this out. switching around at the last damn minute usually is a mafia thing trying to get voted away from their team, am I right?
Jay presented a case for Mac being bad that had some good points, but he also brought up earlier in EOD that we could default to an inactive player which in this case is Neverwhere. He elected to do that.
that's fine, but goodness, it stresses me out. I have been involved all day back and forth reading and staying caught up. what is the point of even being here throughout the day. I might as well just come in the last hour and read 10 posts and vote. it makes the whole day a pointless waste of my time. I hate mafia these days.
Everything leads to this point. There is purpose in all of it.

I don't agree. I feel like I wasted my day staying caught up.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:01 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:58 pm I hate to see all this stirring up here at the end. Daisy says she is voting Mac b/c she is sleep deprived and annoyed and "I hope you're right Jay" but Jay is on neverwhere and not Mac. WTF people. we had 24 hours to work this out. switching around at the last damn minute usually is a mafia thing trying to get voted away from their team, am I right?
Jay presented a case for Mac being bad that had some good points, but he also brought up earlier in EOD that we could default to an inactive player which in this case is Neverwhere. He elected to do that.

that's fine, but goodness, it stresses me out. I have been involved all day back and forth reading and staying caught up. what is the point of even being here throughout the day. I might as well just come in the last hour and read 10 posts and vote. it makes the whole day a pointless waste of my time. I hate mafia these days.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:58 pm I hate to see all this stirring up here at the end. Daisy says she is voting Mac b/c she is sleep deprived and annoyed and "I hope you're right Jay" but Jay is on neverwhere and not Mac. WTF people. we had 24 hours to work this out. switching around at the last damn minute usually is a mafia thing trying to get voted away from their team, am I right?
Where were people voting before, Eloh? I hate CFDs.

mostly nutella, some luna

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:58 pm lurkers start appearing near eod

shit, just coming in to see the host post and wrap up the day and it is sheer chaos. this is how mafia win folks. SMH

so much linki, I pushed through

I hate to see all this stirring up here at the end. Daisy says she is voting Mac b/c she is sleep deprived and annoyed and "I hope you're right Jay" but Jay is on neverwhere and not Mac. WTF people. we had 24 hours to work this out. switching around at the last damn minute usually is a mafia thing trying to get voted away from their team, am I right?

came back in to witness EoD and bam, things have changed. I will not catch up before the end. What did Mac do?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:45 pm Here's a lynch salad as a parting gift

Nutella > Speed > Never > LC

Linki - Too much information. Meaning she's bad and knows you're good.

OH!

Dunya, what does tmi on me and jay mean in response to nutella? Like, are we not supposed to bring up old games like that? Or is it like the truth being stretched?

I know. I was wondering where rey was. Someone needs to go PM him on discord and tell him to get his butt in here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:27 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:25 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:07 pm Elohcin, could you summarize your gripes with nutella in just a sentence or two?
I'm sure my iso isn't too long.
Very well. How do nutella's most recent posts today while you've been around feel to you?

like a facade of pompousness, but she is scared she is found out.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:21 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:53 pm I could vote ddl actually but part of the reason is from the angleshooting thing and also he's gone for EOD
Why are people voting for you and why are they full of it/wrong?
Eloh is always wrong about me and refuses to see reason. Jay is misguided but will come around. Two of ddl, Mac, and juliets are bad and the other thinks they're clever.
I would argue that I am not always wrong about you. I have, however, always thought your posts sound baddie aligned except for one game recently. I don't recall which one. But again, I'm not always wrong. You have been bad before, so of course I have been right sometimes.

What makes you so confident in two baddies among DDL, Mac, and Jules?
I'm not so confident about it, but I have some suspicion on all three of them and would be fairly surprised if none of them were bad. I'm leaning a little more town on Mac and more bad on juliets and ddl for various reasons that are unrelated to their voting for me but it does seem that I'd be a convenient bandwagon vote for scum.
Okay. I just feel like when someone makes a statement like, two of these three players are bad, it exudes confidence. Like you know it to be true. Remember, one must be careful what they claim in games. I as completely ignored in my last game for a whole phase and voted for wrongly b/c the cop made a claim against me and everyone believed them. In fact, I think you might have been that cop. I never completely hold those details b/c I have too many RL details to remember. But yeah, be careful on your claims.
Oh yeah I felt so bad about that, it was partially people taking my words entirely the wrong way but partially me not being careful enough about my words. I'm not trying to imply anything like that here, they're just all people on my list.

Right. So...instead of "Two of these three people are bad" how about, "These three are my top suspects, I propose that at least two of them are bad."

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:07 pm @Elohcin, could you summarize your gripes with nutella in just a sentence or two?

I'm sure my iso isn't too long.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:53 pm I could vote ddl actually but part of the reason is from the angleshooting thing and also he's gone for EOD
Why are people voting for you and why are they full of it/wrong?
Eloh is always wrong about me and refuses to see reason. Jay is misguided but will come around. Two of ddl, Mac, and juliets are bad and the other thinks they're clever.
I would argue that I am not always wrong about you. I have, however, always thought your posts sound baddie aligned except for one game recently. I don't recall which one. But again, I'm not always wrong. You have been bad before, so of course I have been right sometimes.

What makes you so confident in two baddies among DDL, Mac, and Jules?
I'm not so confident about it, but I have some suspicion on all three of them and would be fairly surprised if none of them were bad. I'm leaning a little more town on Mac and more bad on juliets and ddl for various reasons that are unrelated to their voting for me but it does seem that I'd be a convenient bandwagon vote for scum.

Okay. I just feel like when someone makes a statement like, two of these three players are bad, it exudes confidence. Like you know it to be true. Remember, one must be careful what they claim in games. I as completely ignored in my last game for a whole phase and voted for wrongly b/c the cop made a claim against me and everyone believed them. In fact, I think you might have been that cop. I never completely hold those details b/c I have too many RL details to remember. But yeah, be careful on your claims.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:47 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”
This is what I'm thinking. Does baddie dunya toss votes here and there before landing on her actual choice? I find this behavior odd.
you find it odd for me to switch my votes throughout the day?

I don't know if it is normal civ or baddie behavior and I just have never noticed it before. So I was asking the thread.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:46 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”
This is what I'm thinking. Does baddie dunya toss votes here and there before landing on her actual choice? I find this behavior odd.
I was just giving Dunya shit for voting Mac after telling me to get over voting Daisy.

That's fine to have your own reasoning. I am just telling you what I am getting from dunya's voting. It seems like she is just placing votes willy nilly before settling on who she actually wants to vote for.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:53 pm I could vote ddl actually but part of the reason is from the angleshooting thing and also he's gone for EOD
Why are people voting for you and why are they full of it/wrong?
Eloh is always wrong about me and refuses to see reason. Jay is misguided but will come around. Two of ddl, Mac, and juliets are bad and the other thinks they're clever.

I would argue that I am not always wrong about you. I have, however, always thought your posts sound baddie aligned except for one game recently. I don't recall which one. But again, I'm not always wrong. You have been bad before, so of course I have been right sometimes.

What makes you so confident in two baddies among DDL, Mac, and Jules?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”

This is what I'm thinking. Does baddie dunya toss votes here and there before landing on her actual choice? I find this behavior odd.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] look up

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