The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm curious about this:

Tension was heavily building upon juliets as a consensus suspect in conjunction with my interrogation of her (and sig's dying words of wanting her dead). However, since I have removed pressure off of her at the start of this Day phase, she has no pressure from anyone else, and no votes to speak of. Why is this?
Why did you not vote for juliets?

When sig was nightkilled, I decided to reconsider my reads.

I'm still considering it, but these Day phases are too damn quick.

I wanted to avoid tunneling, but the fact that she has avoided any pressure or votes whatsoever from the rest of you all is a bit disconcerting to me.

How did you reconsider them?

My gut is increasingly feeling better about Made.

juliets wrote:MM is changing my opinion from my gth read from bad to potentially good.

What makes you feel that way?

Long Con wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:MM: Town
Juliets: marginal Town
LC: marginal Mafia
MP: marginal Town (just don't like his vote on Juliets)
Sig: marginal Town
Made: Jury's out
Hmm, I was wrong about Glorf's initial Made GTH

What I don't understand is why Glorfindel would vote Made based on "Jury's out" and "gut feel", yet not pursue suspicion or questioning of you, LC, at all whatsoever, despite him reading you as "marginal mafia".

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote: Weren't MM and Glorf the only ones defending Made?

One of you guys is fishy.
I voted Made to see what other players would do.

Which of us is fishy?

What do you make of what other players did? Did any reads develop as a result?

I'm curious about this:

Tension was heavily building upon juliets as a consensus suspect in conjunction with my interrogation of her (and sig's dying words of wanting her dead). However, since I have removed pressure off of her at the start of this Day phase, she has no pressure from anyone else, and no votes to speak of. Why is this?

I can throw a vote behind Glorf for now.

VOTE GLORFINDEL

Made wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:VOTE MADE - this is a gut feel, literally a shot in the dark (like Kevin Costner in the Body Guard...)
What makes Made more suspicious than everyone else?
Metalmarsh89 wrote:VOTE MADE

^^I am making the above vote with caps lock turned off.
Both of these votes are no-u, I feel personally attacked.

Do you believe either or both of those votes is an opportunistic baddie? If so/not, why?

I'm beginning to suspect Glorfindel. He didn't like my vote on juliets, never really elaborated on why, and I find "gut feel" on the consensus scummy-looking player too weak for this stage of the game.

Glorfindel wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:VOTE MADE - this is a gut feel, literally a shot in the dark (like Kevin Costner in the Body Guard...)
What makes Made more suspicious than everyone else?

Isn't there literally anything you can point me to that makes you feel kinda yucky or unsure about him?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:VOTE MADE

^^I am making the above vote with caps lock turned off.

What do you make of LC and Glorf?

LC, what do you think? Who should die and why?

Glorfindel wrote:VOTE MADE - this is a gut feel, literally a shot in the dark (like Kevin Costner in the Body Guard...)

What makes Made more suspicious than everyone else?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:REMINDER THAT ALL VOTES MUST BE IN CAPS LOCK TO ENSURE I SEE THEM.

I keep waiting for the HA-HA HA!

Long Con wrote:Ugh, it just looks like sig was accusing Quin after night 1.

Thanks for double checking.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Is it possible that sig had information on a killer?
At the end, he suspected juliets primarily, then offered myself and Made as alternatives.

What do you make of that?

Without digging into his posts, I'd say it's unlikely he had information, but I'm not sure I'd double down on that assessment.

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:The reason is included right in that post.
Oh, my vote felt contrived. Well, hard to argue that other than to tell you it was not. Someone had brought up earlier that he wasn't around during the night.
Why should I read you as town?
Because I have posted genuinely without regard to what my posts may look like. I also have posted through the night on both nights.

That's fair. I'll leave you alone a bit for now. I don't want to tunnel too hard.

Whom are you suspecting most heavily? What questions do you have for me and/or anyone else?

Long Con wrote:
sig wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:MM: Town
Juliets: marginal Town
LC: marginal Mafia
MP: marginal Town (just don't like his vote on Juliets)
Sig: marginal Town
Made: Jury's out
everyone can't be town Glorf.
I'm a little bad, for spice.

RIP sig, our tracker! Is a tracker like a rolechecker, and can we get any info from his posts posthumously?

I imagine Jay set up the tracker role to be "I track X" and then sig would find out who X targeted that Night, if anyone.

Is it possible that sig had information on a killer?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Do you believe juliets is not a game solver?

How does that impact your read of her in this game?
No, I don't believe she is (correct me if I'm wrong juliets). You are a game-solver MP. I am sometimes a game-solver. But on the other hand, there are some people who just don't play transparently and wish to look at every player at once.

That doesn't impact my read. That's just not how I perceive her.

That's all fair. How do you read her?

RIP sig. Damn shame. I guess he was killed due to the power role hint.

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:The reason is included right in that post.
Oh, my vote felt contrived. Well, hard to argue that other than to tell you it was not. Someone had brought up earlier that he wasn't around during the night.

Why should I read you as town?

Long Con wrote:
Made wrote:Also, My vote didn't go through for Juliets?
I could see a Juliets and Made team where he intentionally didn't get the vote in... but what happened here Made?

Doesn't that seem unnecessarily risky of Made?

I think we need to consider that juliets could be town. I don't want her being auto-lynched come d3 even if I feel most strongly about her right now anyway. I'm frequently wrong about people in this game.

sig wrote:I'd encourage Juliets lynch tomorrow though.

Why?

juliets wrote:Glory - civ
MP - civ
sig - civ
made - mafia
MM - mafia
LC - I'm unclear, sorry

I dont do real well on GTH. Its one of the reasons I don't play much anymore.

Is there any reason you feel more unclear about LC than the rest?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:dang quin sorry -

MP what makes you read me as mafia?
I don't get the impression you really cared about where you placed your vote on d1, and I still get that vibe despite your explanation. You don't seem to want to genuinely solve the game.

I also found it dubious that you probably civ read me but had no opinion on anyone else, with no accompanying explanation.

I find it most questionable that you said I was looking for any reason to vote for you, yet you indicated no reason for thinking that previously, and this thought is completely compatible with your 'probably civ' read of me you expressed previously.
Just because you're a game-solver, doesn't mean everyone is. :P

Do you believe juliets is not a game solver?

How does that impact your read of her in this game?

I'm totally going to die tonight.

sig wrote:I might switch my GTH reads,

I could see juliets being mafia, but so could I see MM and Made

Why?

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Ok I am voting for sig - I'm suspicious that he's spending too much time in baddie chat
VOTE SIG
This feels a bit contrived to me.

VOTE JULIETS
hahaha you were looking for any excuse -
Do you then believe that my vote is manufactured? Wouldn't that conflict with your town read of me?
I haven't seen a reason you latched onto me so yes, it seems like you were looking for any reason. It doesn't conflict with me thinking your civ.

The reason is included right in that post.

Everyone is GTHing Made as mafia. Explain.

juliets wrote:dang quin sorry -

MP what makes you read me as mafia?

I don't get the impression you really cared about where you placed your vote on d1, and I still get that vibe despite your explanation. You don't seem to want to genuinely solve the game.

I also found it dubious that you probably civ read me but had no opinion on anyone else, with no accompanying explanation.

I find it most questionable that you said I was looking for any reason to vote for you, yet you indicated no reason for thinking that previously, and this thought is completely compatible with your 'probably civ' read of me you expressed previously.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Ok I am voting for sig - I'm suspicious that he's spending too much time in baddie chat
VOTE SIG
This feels a bit contrived to me.

VOTE JULIETS
hahaha you were looking for any excuse -
Do you then believe that my vote is manufactured? Wouldn't that conflict with your town read of me?

juliets, unless I'm mistaken, I never got an answer to my question.

Glorfindel - Town
juliets - Mafia
Long Con - Town
Made - Mafia
Metalmarsh89 - Town
sig - Town

RIP Quin. That's unfortunate.

GTH reads everyone, please. I'll share mine momentarily.

I would like to hear more from Glorfindel on how he is reading other players. I feel he is town reading juliets and mafia reading me, but that's all I got.

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm a bit confused of what LC and Quin think of each other right now and why.
I suspect him because I find his early suspicion and vote change disingenuinousousus.

I'll take another look.

I still think juliets is suspicious. Someone tell me why she isn't.

I'm a bit confused of what LC and Quin think of each other right now and why.

Glorfindel wrote:
juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Ok I am voting for sig - I'm suspicious that he's spending too much time in baddie chat
VOTE SIG
This feels a bit contrived to me.

VOTE JULIETS
hahaha you were looking for any excuse -
This is kinda what it looks like to me too...
VOTE MOVINGPICTURES07

What specifically leads you to that conclusion?

sig wrote:voting me is one of the worst things that could happen to the civs

Are you claiming a power role?

juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
juliets wrote:Ok I am voting for sig - I'm suspicious that he's spending too much time in baddie chat
VOTE SIG
This feels a bit contrived to me.

VOTE JULIETS
hahaha you were looking for any excuse -

Do you then believe that my vote is manufactured? Wouldn't that conflict with your town read of me?

Glorfindel wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:I'm not getting the baddie vibe from Juliets that I did in Election Night Mafia...
Can you elaborate at all? What specifically bugged you about her posts there that isn't ringing the same here?
It's hard to explain - it was kinda like she was driving an agenda (particularly on the 'weaker' players). Not seeing that at all here. Seems a lot more 'open-minded'.

That's fair enough, I'll keep this in mind, especially since I'm scum reading juliets at the moment.

juliets wrote:Ok I am voting for sig - I'm suspicious that he's spending too much time in baddie chat
VOTE SIG

This feels a bit contrived to me.

VOTE JULIETS

juliets wrote:sig is too quiet I am getting suspicious.

What motivation would a mafia sig have to be quiet?

juliets wrote:I agree that MP is probably civ but I don't have any good vibes about anyone else. I need to hurry and get some.

Why do you feel I'm probably civ?

Glorfindel wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Hi I'm Poppy.
OK, Rico. We get it already. Do you have anything else to say for yourself?
What are your thoughts?
Seems to me Rico always ends up doing weird stuff like this. I doubt Jay had either the time or the inclination to come up with some kind of curse for his role so I doubt it's legitimate.

Rico isn't playing (hence the non-player blue). I was asking in general.

Glorfindel wrote:I'm not getting the baddie vibe from Juliets that I did in Election Night Mafia...

Can you elaborate at all? What specifically bugged you about her posts there that isn't ringing the same here?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:MP is a civread for me. He spent his catchup reading the thread as opposed to plotting a kill. I won't be voting for him today.

@Made. I suppose that's possible, I find a baddie-sorta alignment to be more believable.

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