The Syndicate

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:23 pm hyena still looking like pr though
Maybe MP thinks I look like a PR too and that's why she said I'm self-resolving?

I do not think that, no.

I don't think people understood any of that post I made, which is totally fine, but like... ask me?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:18 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm MP7 is definitely an outlier. Hard to say whether that's due to personality (Fire type, wow!) and lack of time or being mafia. I share Hally's suspicion of the pocket attempt but don't think it worked. Also a very weird response, seeming to not understand TSP is calling her + cayvie as vote candidates? Also she called Hyena "self-resolving" which makes me go hmmmmmmmmm.
Oh! I remember seeing the "Hyena is self-resolving" comment and scratching me head at it. Like, considering how much suspicion was being thrown my way, I would've thought I'd be the least self-resolving person right now.

I was talking about in general.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:13 pm Definitely agree, MP7 is very nice

but may be mafia

This could be said about everyone in the game, yeah?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:08 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm someone tell me how i should be reading mp. im nervous im being pocketed
Hey, MP, how should we be reading you right now?

Sorry, I feel like I'm being extra dense tonight. What do you mean?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:01 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:50 pmI am an out of place object in the Syndicate/MU forum mafia world, a Samurai Jack-esque castaway out of time who learned the game over a decade ago, took a long break from it and only recently returned to the field. I don't put wolves in boxes. I plinko board my thoughts. I think the phrase "process of elimination" is anathema to town success. I think a low number of large contentful posts is better than a flood of one liners. I find playing town much more stressful than playing scum and am geared to catch wily wolves rather than potato wolves. My process is very different, in many ways the exact opposite, of what seems to have become the norm in this strange new world. Some of you will probably not understand me, and that's fine. Some of you may be tempted to scumread me solely on playstyle, that's a little less fine. Keep an open mind, and we can work together and benefit from our different perspectives.
I actually feel a sense of relief reading this. I'm often put in boxes as both alignments, so knowing that you don't do the boxing thing makes me happy. Unfortunately, I am a PoE kind of player, even if I do end changing my PoE day by day (sometimes multiple times later in the game!). I definitely relate to feeling more stressed playing as town than as scum. I don't have to worry about being correct as scum.

Hyena, what do you mean by often put in boxes?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:58 pm IC claims, imo, work a lot like the council of joats for those who understand that reference, it's not really a problem to have multiples on day 1 or even later. I felt it was correct to policy claim it on a sub-in as town, and did... in retrospect too bombastic of an entry, worried this was going to be a high volume high pressure game like my previous MU encounters. This is much chiller and I'm super happy about that.

I don't know if TSP is the real one or not. I do like his posting, and in particular dropping "cayvie+mp7" as suspects right when he did is enough of a mindmeld (in the proper use, in the past and with zero prompting from my slot) for me to put him in effective never-yeet regardless.

I don't understand that reference. Mind elaborating?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm ok ran is probably town

But why?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm Annnnd I'm caught up, okay!

[VOTE: Cayvie] aubergine

Thinkin my vote goes here right now. By and large I agree with my fellow IC TSP. Cayvie had an awkward entry, awkward interjection in the Hally/Hyena thing, and instant why me fry me when TSP scumreads her, while pointing only to Hyena (looking like LHF town to me) as a suspect. Pretty level 1 stuff but it is what I have right now.

MP7 is definitely an outlier. Hard to say whether that's due to personality (Fire type, wow!) and lack of time or being mafia. I share Hally's suspicion of the pocket attempt but don't think it worked. Also a very weird response, seeming to not understand TSP is calling her + cayvie as vote candidates? Also she called Hyena "self-resolving" which makes me go hmmmmmmmmm.

Sabie doesn't have much down still. Would appreciate some discussion with her. Sabie, who do you think is mafia and why? What do you think about the use of subtitles in the original Star Wars trilogy, and their absence for R2-D2 and Chewbacca?

Minor Mist tinfoil but mostly feeling good there. Think Hally is town, their state of mind is palpable.

Hyena... is hard to follow for me but in a way that makes me think they are town. The thoughts seem genuine, as the kids say, and unagenda'd. "I was worried I would look w/w with Hally because if Evenstar was in this game and we were w/w Evenstar would bus me" is a heck of a take to manufacture.

How does Hyena look like LHF?

What do you mean by me being an outlier? What do you mean by don't think it worked? Where did I not understand TSP saying that? Based on my experience with Hyena, he was pretty obvious town part-way through the game so...?

Why are you mostly feeling good about Mist?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:36 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:34 pm like i dont think either of them actually expects the wagon for the other to get off the ground, or their reason for voting to be taken particularly seriously.
So, like, this thought and, in general, all the ones about me and Hally being scum together are, I think, genuine, even if I don't know if it's alignment indicative or not. :3 For a brief moment after I started accusing Hally the way I did, I was a little worried that it might be taken as two scum bussing since there are people I'd do that with if I were scum with them (Evenstar from last years MU Champs, for example).
This post is either very good or very bad.

What do you mean?

Hey Hally! Yeah, I got to it just now.

Thanks for responding anyway. Is there anything you want my opinion on?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm someone tell me how i should be reading mp. im nervous im being pocketed

How are you reading me though?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:20 pm yea i actually liked hyenas longish post i just quoted. i can buy that as a genuine thought process

What did you think was genuine specifically?

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Hey Ran! Welcome to the game. If you don't like to use POE, how exactly do you most prefer to solve? I'm not sure I got enough of an impression of it here.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:44 pm tbh it’s really hard to get into this game when the activity is so low. i feel like i have to force stuff just to keep the thread moving

I apologize for my part in that, I'm remembering why I just don't have time for games as much as I enjoy them unfortunately. I think we still can do this though!

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:33 pm what if hyena is town and mp is scum pocketing me over my incorrect hyena sus?

For not having a reason to call me scum you're certainly speculating on it quite often. Is there something I can do?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:31 pm also this game still exists. is hyena actually scum? should i be tr’ing mp just for giving me warm fuzzies? all will be revealed

I think I liked that Hyena response I got. What do you think of it?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:32 am
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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm hyena, jic you missed it, i asked what your actual reads are if you have any
Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).
I seem to remember you getting to action more quickly before. Why are you taking it slowly here?

Also, I think you're right, it must have been that game! Hahaha that's the only game I've been wolf here since my return and it wasn't even my original rand because of the zombie sub-in. Gosh that feels like ages ago, doesn't it?
Yeah, I usually try to get to action as quickly as I can, but a couple of factors in game are stopping me from doing so at the moment. The two main ones are 1. I haven't had a chance to interact with everyone yet, which means I don't have a complete picture of the game yet, and 2. the small size of this game, which is making me feel like I have to be more accurate with my reads early on since we could be in LYLO as soon as tomorrow.

For #1, I feel like the only people I really have thorough interactions with is Hally (who I've had the most interaction with), Cayvie (who I haven't directly interacted with yet), and Mist (who I don't need as much interaction with since I've got a lot of experience with her). Outside my interactions, the only heavy interacting between two people that I know that's happening without rereading the thread is between you and Hally. What I'd like to see is more interactions between people I haven't seen interact yet. Of the people I named above, I'd really like to see you and Mist interact right now, because I don't know how you two as a pair fit into this whole game just yet.

Even if those interactions did occur though, that still leaves Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie, who I've got pretty much nothing on? Wanna know why I'm fencesitting on the people I've made genuine reads on so far? Because I don't know how Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie are going to fit into the whole equation yet. Everyone outside of those three could be town for all I know. Thus, based on the incomplete picture that I've got right now, I'm just taking guesses right now.

How #2 plays into this though is that because of the low number of players and the number of yeets/night kills/vig shots that we all potentially have this game, I feel more nervous about sticking to my guns because I don't think I can afford to be wrong as often as I usually can. In a normal 9+ player game, we at least have two days where we can miss on hitting scum without losing. That's not the case here. I feel like we have to make sure we hit mafia either today, tonight (with a vig shot), or tomorrow. If anything, I think the low number of players makes me more nervous about the game than the flipless mechanic.

Hey Hyena, I'm not sure I understand why you want to see Mist and me specifically, can you elaborate on that?

I appreciate the response, thank you.

I'm here!

Hey so I used that Pokemon Picker because I honestly didn't really know what my top X pokemon were! Hehe.

Top 10: Toxapex, Wobbuffet, Falinks, Espeon, Magneton, Exeggutor, Porygon, Tangela, Cursola, and Abomasnow

Top 20: Toxapex, Wobbuffet, Falinks, Espeon, Magneton, Exeggutor, Porygon, Tangela, Cursola, Abomasnow, Sableye, Claydol, Oddish, Crustle, Salazzle, Golisopod, Starmie, Froslass, Vikavolt, and Chandelure

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:10 pm idk. hyena/??

like hyena acted real weird over the rest of the day. im not the first to mention all the hedging but i noticed it too

Why does him acting weird make you think scum, like... can you expand on the A --> B --> C part of this, where A is Hyena = acted real weird and C is naming Hyena on your scum team. What is B?

[VOTE: SCIRRUS] aubergine

Now we have three wagons at two a piece.

I need to spend some more time in cayvie's head actually. I feel relatively confident about my ability to read her comparatively.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm thinkin mp and cayvie

That would actually be a lot of fun.

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:51 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.
i don't know what this says about me/us

I'm not sure it says anything. I was just trying to consider the gamestate and why I felt like there was/is a significant number of players that fall into this sort of thing and follow the train of thought somewhere.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:49 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:40 pm This was a lot of fun already! I really can't wait to get to play with every single one of you more. I should at least take a slight to moderate break, but I'll be back whenever I can later tonight I'm thinking. I'm going to try to pick apart things more upon my return.
Yeah I think it must be at least like 5 years since I've played a game with you nice to see you again!

Yeah, wow, I guess so. Time flies for sure. Likewise!

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:38 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.
I don't even know what my point is here, I just was thinking about how I was struggling to wrap my head around Hyena and then it somehow devolved into this thought. Funnily enough I'm not sure Hyena is that sort of player because he's more likely self-resolving?

Also please know that this is obviously based on my perception, so I mean no offense or misunderstandings or anything -- it's entirely possible that I have the wrong one? Especially since I haven't played with a lot of you much. But anyway. Be back soon!

This was a lot of fun already! I really can't wait to get to play with every single one of you more. I should at least take a slight to moderate break, but I'll be back whenever I can later tonight I'm thinking. I'm going to try to pick apart things more upon my return.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

I don't even know what my point is here, I just was thinking about how I was struggling to wrap my head around Hyena and then it somehow devolved into this thought. Funnily enough I'm not sure Hyena is that sort of player because he's more likely self-resolving?

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm
Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.
idk im gonna assume he’s ic unless someone cc’s

Oh got it, I thought you had a behavioral read. My gut likes him for some reason that I'm consciously unaware of, but that's all I have.

I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:23 pm aw this is so cute. sc kept being all like “hally you would love playing with mp shes like you.” i feel the love

Absolutely mutual! Hehe.

I trust Hally, don't care, they can take me to F3 so I can re-evaluate and shoot them if they're really scum. glgl

One town read down at least.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm (is mp pocketing me. asking for a friend)

Yes, I am. I pocket people all the time as town. I thrive off of working with someone.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:17 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:04 pm Not getting to meet any of my students face to face, for as much as it's 100% the right decision, is a major bummer that I'm not sure I'll ever get used to.
oh rip, yea it must be hard teaching remotely. i actually studied education in college! what do you teach?
It definitely has been a challenge. Thankfully I taught over the summer (even though 5-week virtual teaching was hellish tbh it gave me a lot of good experience), so between that and the second part of Spring semester, I at least had data and feedback to work off of, and I think I'm doing the best I can given the circumstances. I basically am teaching hybrid now, so I record videos in roughly 30-minute segments or less and I generally post them ahead of time, and then during class I'll hold Q&A-type sessions in Zoom. It seems to be working pretty well, or at least as well as it can given there's no remotely perfect solution to various obstacles.

I teach Accounting, hahaha. Right now it's Accounting Information Systems specifically. Fun, right? Hehe.

That's so cool! I actually briefly considered Education because I really wanted to teach, but then I pivoted to Accounting because I found it intriguing, I was good at it, and I liked math and analyzing but I didn't want to go too theoretical and then later found out accounting was much less math and more a bunch of framework application and I still really liked it. During undergrad I figured I would just teach later when I retired or something? But I felt the itch still, and I considered PhD programs after talking to one of my Master's professors about why he really enjoyed being in academia. Despite the PhD program being a net negative on my mental health it was soooo worth it.
oh gosh, i could never do accounting. i don’t have a mathematical mind at all

Excel does the math for you!

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:15 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:07 pm Hally, I can trust you, right? Please.
yes! but can i trust you? dun dun dun!!

Absolutely.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:07 pm So many of Hyena's thoughts are hedgey and I have no clue what to do with it.
im getting confused myself. the cayvie read especially kinda feels like forcing content because he says cayvie is town but then doesn’t actually say anything in the paragraph about why. it’s all just fence sitting

maybe mist knows if this kind of waffling is typical for hyena

I definitely would appreciate other perspectives on it myself.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:12 pm I was talking today with some of my first year grad student friends with classes for whom this is their introduction to teaching. It's weird.

Oh gosh, I couldn't imagine.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:04 pm Not getting to meet any of my students face to face, for as much as it's 100% the right decision, is a major bummer that I'm not sure I'll ever get used to.
oh rip, yea it must be hard teaching remotely. i actually studied education in college! what do you teach?

It definitely has been a challenge. Thankfully I taught over the summer (even though 5-week virtual teaching was hellish tbh it gave me a lot of good experience), so between that and the second part of Spring semester, I at least had data and feedback to work off of, and I think I'm doing the best I can given the circumstances. I basically am teaching hybrid now, so I record videos in roughly 30-minute segments or less and I generally post them ahead of time, and then during class I'll hold Q&A-type sessions in Zoom. It seems to be working pretty well, or at least as well as it can given there's no remotely perfect solution to various obstacles.

I teach Accounting, hahaha. Right now it's Accounting Information Systems specifically. Fun, right? Hehe.

That's so cool! I actually briefly considered Education because I really wanted to teach, but then I pivoted to Accounting because I found it intriguing, I was good at it, and I liked math and analyzing but I didn't want to go too theoretical and then later found out accounting was much less math and more a bunch of framework application and I still really liked it. During undergrad I figured I would just teach later when I retired or something? But I felt the itch still, and I considered PhD programs after talking to one of my Master's professors about why he really enjoyed being in academia. Despite the PhD program being a net negative on my mental health it was soooo worth it.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:09 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:59 pm Now that I've caught up, I can say that based on the post count alone I expected more solving and for the game environment to be tenser, but I'm relieved that this game has been really fluffy so far. Apparently all we need to keep games fluffy is to have more LGBT+ people in games, who knew?
i’m glad it’s very relaxed since i’m just coming off a very stressful champs run. i kinda want a nice chill game and this is definitely what i was hoping for!
Me too, I've been dying to play again but I don't think I could handle a stressful game right now. Transitioning plus virtual semester has made some of my days feel rather turbulent but this week has been pretty good so far.
oh good! i hope that continues!

Thank you so much! Me too. Dysphoria is a bitch.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:02 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm i wish sc and sabie would come play, but i guess we have a lot of time still. i’m not used to 72 hr days
Honestly I might have trouble if the days were much less than 72 due to work and everything else, so I'm glad they are, but I also understand your position and sense of urgency here. In my experience longer phases can make it harder for interactions too potentially.
i actually don’t mind this one being longer phases! just because it will hopefully be more relaxed. but yea, interactions might be harder because ppl may not be around at the same time. im sure we can manage though!

Yeah, I'm optimistic too!

Hally, I can trust you, right? Please.

So many of Hyena's thoughts are hedgey and I have no clue what to do with it.

Not getting to meet any of my students face to face, for as much as it's 100% the right decision, is a major bummer that I'm not sure I'll ever get used to.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:59 pm Now that I've caught up, I can say that based on the post count alone I expected more solving and for the game environment to be tenser, but I'm relieved that this game has been really fluffy so far. Apparently all we need to keep games fluffy is to have more LGBT+ people in games, who knew?
i’m glad it’s very relaxed since i’m just coming off a very stressful champs run. i kinda want a nice chill game and this is definitely what i was hoping for!

Me too, I've been dying to play again but I don't think I could handle a stressful game right now. Transitioning plus virtual semester has made some of my days feel rather turbulent but this week has been pretty good so far.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm i wish sc and sabie would come play, but i guess we have a lot of time still. i’m not used to 72 hr days

Honestly I might have trouble if the days were much less than 72 due to work and everything else, so I'm glad they are, but I also understand your position and sense of urgency here. In my experience longer phases can make it harder for interactions too potentially.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm hyena, jic you missed it, i asked what your actual reads are if you have any
Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).

I seem to remember you getting to action more quickly before. Why are you taking it slowly here?

Also, I think you're right, it must have been that game! Hahaha that's the only game I've been wolf here since my return and it wasn't even my original rand because of the zombie sub-in. Gosh that feels like ages ago, doesn't it?

Now that I've caught up, I can say that based on the post count alone I expected more solving and for the game environment to be tenser, but I'm relieved that this game has been really fluffy so far. Apparently all we need to keep games fluffy is to have more LGBT+ people in games, who knew?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm We're all poison

There's some sort of joke to be made here but I can't put it together.

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:52 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:49 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:48 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:19 pmPoison - very strong - CHAOTIC GOOD, honestly sneaky is the only one I don't relate to too much although I try to be in some games I guess
Cool, we both relate very strongly to Poison. Though, sneaky to me can also mean manipulative, which I certainly can be when playing mafia.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:19 pm I guess as for how that combination as explained above plays into mafia: I can and will change my mind on a dime, I will passionately argue for or against someone if I really believe it, even though I try to stay level-headed I will get emotional, I will try to cheerlead others, I will ramble (lol) and, I will probably spend way more words than I need to in order to get into someone's head but it's really important to me that I do.
I remember reading the MBTI thread here and noticing you tested as an INFJ. Mostly everything you said above is pretty consistent with most INFJs.
im infj too \o/
Me, too! \o/

Even more hype, woo!

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