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by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:25 pm Interesting that you should point that out.

Can you talk to me some about how you form reads, and what you believe to be alignment indicative vs unimportant?
Point what out specifically?

Sure. I'm not sure what to say though. I played in Champs Season 5 (qualifier, wildcards, finals, the last of which never happened) and tried to play a bit after that but always ended up slanking (especially by my standards) until post-COVID when I came back, and I'm trying to improve my game. I feel like I generally rely on my gut but I've augmented that with analytical methods plenty off and on, which... will be harder to engage with this game since it's flipless. I guess I just try to understand whether I think someone is genuinely making reads and statements versus fabricating content. A good part of that is why I end up asking questions especially to players whose brains I don't yet know or understand. I feel like I'm good at finding town and not very good at figuring out when someone is scum so that's why I ended up gravitating towards an approach that plays to my strengths, but I don't try to force it either, and I'll be known to really find something I think is worth pursuing aggressively if someone answers a question or says something that really doesn't compute with my understanding of how their brain works in such a way that I think they're making it up. Does this help? I hope so.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Seems like my read of cayvie is important here. Maybe I’ll go back and look at that practice game again.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:16 pm MP7, are you town?
Yes! Hehe.

I find it amusing that you asked it this way because it reminds me of someone who doesn’t play anymore (thellama73) who used to espouse that it actually was useful. That said, I don’t know how useful it is haha.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Alison wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:40 am Current Vote Count
cayvie (1): Hally
Hyena (1): cayvie
M Plus 7 (1): TonyStarkPrime, Ranmilia
Ranmilia (2): Mistyx, M Plus 7
Hally (2): Hyena, sabie12

Sorry about the poll everyone. I'll try to fix it for next time so I don't have to do manual vote counts.
Since this vote I have unvoted and Tony moved his vote to cayvie and Ran moved to cayvie, I think?

So it’s 3 for cayvie, 1 for hyena, 1 for ran, 2 for Hally, and then my vote.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Even still I feel like maybe I'm just not reading Mist right and you're onto something with it, Ran, so I'd say the confidence I have in my reads list in general is rather low.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

I guess if the downside is it's harder to make reads when the upside is the game is super friendly and lowkey then that's a worthwhile tradeoff. Even if like... yesterday and now I'm feeling like fuck I have like not nearly enough data to make any decision I can feel remotely confident in.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Day 1 sucks hahaha.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:57 pm So Mist is the bottom of your current reads? Are you comfortable voting her?

What pushes cayvie into top tier for you?
I guess by default, yeah. I'm not super comfortable voting her which is why it doesn't feel right. Maybe I need to try and re-evaluate people, but I'm not sure how to do that? We don't have a lot of posts to go by, especially as of recently.

Gut mostly, I looked at her ISO yesterday and I felt like her approach to Hyena/Hally and that whole progression over the course of the ISO was a strange thing for scum to do. It felt more like she likely believed it. I wish I knew what she was thinking now though, but I guess that applies to almost everyone.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:53 pm Okay okay, let's see. How would my reads look right now if I had to sort them?
Hally
Ran
cayvie
sabie


Hyena
Tony

Mist

???

This doesn't feel right, but I'm also not sure what to do.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Okay okay, let's see. How would my reads look right now if I had to sort them?
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

We have just over 4 hours? Yikes, let's hope there's some more activity soon.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:43 pm
Spoiler: show
sabie12 wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:31 am I am always a low poster in the beginning of games I am slow to start as I get a feel for things sorry that's just me. Also as I've said this week didnt go as planned for me but oh well.

I feel like this game is better for the scum team because they can kill us all easily and we won't even know for sure they're doing it.
Now that I can read ISOs I could maybe vote hally as they seem to have been perpetuating the random pokemon discussion and just seem different than the town game I saw before. Now that I read cayvie I feel her thought about hyena and hally may have been genuine but then she disappeared after Wednesday. I think tony is his usual town self. I could see maybe a vote for mist I don't feel like they're towny though I guess others do. I think MP seems like her town game before. I'm just not sure.

For now I will [VOTE: hally] aubergine I'm sure I'll get grilled about that but that's what I feel right now. In the other town game Hally was so unsure and thought everyone was town and didn't want to vote people and this game seems different to me.
hi sabie, i’ve been feeling pretty unsure this game so i don’t get what you’re saying re: me. what game are you talking about? and i just wanted to talk about pokemon. why is that scummy? :p
re: mp, do you remember what her scum game is like at all?
Gosh it's been so long plus I'm not sure I ever got much of a handle on her town versus scum game. I would say her posting so far isn't particularly abnormal or anything.

I guess I can believe that her reads post was more likely trying to actually come up with thoughts on people than forced scum content, but I'm not sure how strongly I believe that.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:45 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

That doesn't even make any sense, I know their pronouns.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Oh dammit how the hell did I just do that, their* role card and why they* felt comfortable talking about themself*

I'm so sorry, ugh.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:41 pm Hi MP7!

Off the top of your head, what are the chances Mist is mafia here?

And what do you make of Hally wanting to talk about Pokemon, but not wanting to respond to the typechart exercise?
Hey Ran!

Uhhh good question. I think she's in the bottom half of the player list if I had to shake it out right now? I wish I could see more from her now. It's hard to express it as a chance, did you want like a percentage or something?

You know, that's a good question. I think it's fine? I'm not sure why her role card would have a bearing on why she felt comfortable talking about herself using that as a launching pad. Does that make sense?
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

sabie12 wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:31 am I am always a low poster in the beginning of games I am slow to start as I get a feel for things sorry that's just me. Also as I've said this week didnt go as planned for me but oh well.

I feel like this game is better for the scum team because they can kill us all easily and we won't even know for sure they're doing it.
Now that I can read ISOs I could maybe vote hally as they seem to have been perpetuating the random pokemon discussion and just seem different than the town game I saw before. Now that I read cayvie I feel her thought about hyena and hally may have been genuine but then she disappeared after Wednesday. I think tony is his usual town self. I could see maybe a vote for mist I don't feel like they're towny though I guess others do. I think MP seems like her town game before. I'm just not sure.

For now I will [VOTE: hally] aubergine I'm sure I'll get grilled about that but that's what I feel right now. In the other town game Hally was so unsure and thought everyone was town and didn't want to vote people and this game seems different to me.
I think this feels genuine to me even though it's also player salad, isn't it? Hmmm. I just feel like this isn't made up, especially the stuff on Hally.

I simultaneously feel like unsure about my reads but also like I'm running out of vote candidates though?
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Now I want to move my vote off of Scirrus/Ran hahaha but I can't! The poll is closed! Ahhhh.

Obviously I know to vote in the thread, and Alison is an amazing host, it's just weird to not be able to move it in a TS game hehe.'

Can I just [VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine for now?
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:08 am Post contains words "Tim Hortons"!!!

(And then you say: "What? Just for that? Ran, your methods are weird!"
But it was supposed to be MP7 saying that so we would get some opinions expressed on methods)
LMAO, now I'm really bummed I didn't ask.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:49 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:55 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:48 pm
Ranmilia wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:41 pm Noting a thing. Currently sitting on that thing.

Hally, what are your thoughts on Mist? Did you ever answer the pokemon type chart thing? (if so I missed or failed to note it)
i’ve liked how relaxed mist has been. like particularly how she doesn’t seem concerned with like looking towny. i do kinda wish she posted a bit more but i feel like as scum she might feel pressured to force more content. here i get the sense that she’s just taking it easy, which i think is more towny, and the takes she has given seem genuine
Huh. Can you point me to any post(s) in particular that feel that way? I'm looking at her ISO now actually and am not getting that impression.
idk it’s more like a general vibe. i’m not sure how to illustrate it with specific posts
Hmmm... I'm sorry we haven't been able to really see eye to eye on anything yet and work together. I don't know how to better make that happen.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ranmilia wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:10 pm I liked that Mist insisted on answers to "how does this relate to your play in mafia." So far she hasn't done much with that, so it's a bit of a loan read. I look forward to her conclusions.

I... don't like that MP7 is conducting a lot of questioning dialogue, but did NOT ask me "Ran, what was that one thing Mist did that you found scummy?" That's a bit of bait I hung out in a way that I thought was very obvious to start a dialogue on. I'm concerned this questioning is not genuine.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

MP7, I'm going to put my vote on you for now. If you are town, please don't freak out, continue on. :hugs:
Okay, that makes sense, I would also like to see more of where she goes with it.

Sorry, I didn't know, I must have not thought of asking.
by Tangrowth
Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Okay so I got some much needed sleep and I actually have emotional energy haha, I'll see what I can do off and on before deadline. I would love to chat with people.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

I'll try again tomorrow. Sigh. I can't cheerlead myself right now.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:02 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:00 pm I was going to move my vote but since cayvie and Hally have the most votes now I don't know what to do.
Oh wait nevermind, one of the votes for Hally is Scirrus.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

I was going to move my vote but since cayvie and Hally have the most votes now I don't know what to do.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:58 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

I'm feeling my town reads are cayvie, Hally, and maybe Hyena and TSP? Not sure about the latter two. Everyone else is the POE. Everything in flux though.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:48 pm
Ranmilia wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:41 pm Noting a thing. Currently sitting on that thing.

Hally, what are your thoughts on Mist? Did you ever answer the pokemon type chart thing? (if so I missed or failed to note it)
i’ve liked how relaxed mist has been. like particularly how she doesn’t seem concerned with like looking towny. i do kinda wish she posted a bit more but i feel like as scum she might feel pressured to force more content. here i get the sense that she’s just taking it easy, which i think is more towny, and the takes she has given seem genuine
Huh. Can you point me to any post(s) in particular that feel that way? I'm looking at her ISO now actually and am not getting that impression.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:45 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Ran, why exactly do you think Mist starting the Pokemon meme thing is alignment indicative? I feel like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do regardless.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:43 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

ISO Links

cayvie
Hally
Hyena
M Plus 7
Mistyx
Ranmilia -- formerly Scirrus
sabie12
TonyStarkPrime

[mention]sabie12[/mention]
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:22 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm cayvie's ISO is pretty funny. Otherwise I'm not totally sure I understand the Hyena/Hally train of thought exactly, but it seems to be lacking strategy to me. I don't think she's scum.
what makes you feel she’s not scum? its ok if its just a feeling
Maybe it's silly but like... reading through the stuff she said on you and Hyena reads more like a townie with a perhaps unconventional theory than a wolf trying to fake content.
hm. okay. is there anyone you do feel is scum or not yet?
Not yet, no. It's not typical for me to develop scum reads at the start of the game; I'd rather solve by finding town. I suppose it depends though. I'll see what else I can look back at.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:24 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:20 pm I'm sorry everyone, I just feel a bit frustrated.
Hey. :3 I'm having fun. You're part of the reason I'm having fun here. I want you to have fun, too. I'm sorry if I'm part of the reason you're frustrated.
No, you're totally fine. I certainly don't blame anyone for that. I haven't found my footing at all.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:23 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:46 pm
i don’t knooooooow :|
Sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying, I'm really out of it right now. Remembering why I'm on a break tbh.
i don’t find you annoying nw!
Okay, I'm glad! Thanks. I feel like emotionally worn right now and it's showing hahaha.
you don’t have to be here rn if you’re not feeling great! we still have a whole day
I have a lot of work to do this weekend though.
oh. rip :sigh:
I really appreciate the sentiment, I promise.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
Replies: 1303
Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:22 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm cayvie's ISO is pretty funny. Otherwise I'm not totally sure I understand the Hyena/Hally train of thought exactly, but it seems to be lacking strategy to me. I don't think she's scum.
what makes you feel she’s not scum? its ok if its just a feeling
Maybe it's silly but like... reading through the stuff she said on you and Hyena reads more like a townie with a perhaps unconventional theory than a wolf trying to fake content.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:27 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Spoiler: show
Ranmilia wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:16 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:44 pm
Ranmilia wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:28 pm Annnnd I'm caught up, okay!

[VOTE: Cayvie] aubergine

Thinkin my vote goes here right now. By and large I agree with my fellow IC TSP. Cayvie had an awkward entry, awkward interjection in the Hally/Hyena thing, and instant why me fry me when TSP scumreads her, while pointing only to Hyena (looking like LHF town to me) as a suspect. Pretty level 1 stuff but it is what I have right now.

MP7 is definitely an outlier. Hard to say whether that's due to personality (Fire type, wow!) and lack of time or being mafia. I share Hally's suspicion of the pocket attempt but don't think it worked. Also a very weird response, seeming to not understand TSP is calling her + cayvie as vote candidates? Also she called Hyena "self-resolving" which makes me go hmmmmmmmmm.

Sabie doesn't have much down still. Would appreciate some discussion with her. Sabie, who do you think is mafia and why? What do you think about the use of subtitles in the original Star Wars trilogy, and their absence for R2-D2 and Chewbacca?

Minor Mist tinfoil but mostly feeling good there. Think Hally is town, their state of mind is palpable.

Hyena... is hard to follow for me but in a way that makes me think they are town. The thoughts seem genuine, as the kids say, and unagenda'd. "I was worried I would look w/w with Hally because if Evenstar was in this game and we were w/w Evenstar would bus me" is a heck of a take to manufacture.
How does Hyena look like LHF?

What do you mean by me being an outlier? What do you mean by don't think it worked? Where did I not understand TSP saying that? Based on my experience with Hyena, he was pretty obvious town part-way through the game so...?

Why are you mostly feeling good about Mist?
So, MP7
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm thinkin mp and cayvie
This is, at least in my eyes,TSP calling you and cayvie mafia and suggesting that we vote the two of you out.
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm thinkin mp and cayvie
That would actually be a lot of fun.
And your response is "sounds like fun!"...?

Not seeing how Hyena might qualify as LHF, when they are/were vote leader, many players have been discussing them, and their own words say they're often put in the proverbial box, is strange to me. These combined strangenesses are examples of why I am viewing you as an outlier with a very different perspective of the game.

If you're unfamiliar with the "box" theory entirely, it's here: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Newcomb%29
A lot of people I've seen around the vicinity (of syndicate/MU/champs spec chat) have pointed to this article as a major influence on or description of their playstyle. I'm not so much a fan, personally.

Your pocket attempt on Hally, if it was one, did not work as Hally remained suspicious of you.

Mist's typechart exercise was a good discussion starter, she has done only one major "scummy" thing I find potentially worrisome, and other people I've sorted as town so far are also townreading her - not solidified but I'm satisfied to not vote there at the moment.

Would you say this style of asking many questions is indicative of your own general playstyle?

Yeah, it was a joke? I guess that wasn't clear. I was saying that I thought being teamed with cayvie would be a lot of fun. I played a practice game with her on MU for this Champs season.

I understand the outlier view better, thanks for explaining.

I have not read that, thanks for linking!

I "pocket" players as town all the time because I don't do well when I'm working to solve in isolation. I see your interpretation, I guess I just didn't understand if you had a conclusion from it?

Got it re: Mist.

Sure, I would say that, especially in the earlier part of a game and/or if I don't feel like I understand where other people are coming from and/or if I don't have a lot of experience or knowledge about how someone approaches the game.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
Replies: 1303
Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

I'm sorry everyone, I just feel a bit frustrated.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:46 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm someone tell me how i should be reading mp. im nervous im being pocketed
How are you reading me though?
i don’t knooooooow :|
Sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying, I'm really out of it right now. Remembering why I'm on a break tbh.
i don’t find you annoying nw!
Okay, I'm glad! Thanks. I feel like emotionally worn right now and it's showing hahaha.
you don’t have to be here rn if you’re not feeling great! we still have a whole day
I have a lot of work to do this weekend though.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

cayvie's ISO is pretty funny. Otherwise I'm not totally sure I understand the Hyena/Hally train of thought exactly, but it seems to be lacking strategy to me. I don't think she's scum.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:17 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
Replies: 1303
Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:03 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:52 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:41 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:30 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:33 pm what if hyena is town and mp is scum pocketing me over my incorrect hyena sus?
For not having a reason to call me scum you're certainly speculating on it quite often. Is there something I can do?
idk i’m just kinda paranoid about how quickly you tr me and wondering if it was a genuine attempt to solve my alignment or just trying to win me over. i know im very susceptible to being pocketed because of my personality so i get wary when i feel like someone might be doing that. and outside of tr’ing me there isn’t much to read you on. but i know you’re busy
Is there anything I can do to assist with the underlined, like... any post(s) specifically in interactions with you that you would like me to talk more about or something?
well can you talk about why you tr me?
TL;DR version is: effort, genuine, I really liked our interactions.
okaaaay. but do you think i wouldnt put in effort or seem genuine as scum? like, is there anything in particular that gives you that impression or is it more a general vibe or some combination?
Look, I'm really having trouble forming any reads. I'm just going with my gut for now and throwing tinfoil out the window. My gut likes you. I feel like it happened organically and that it was evident in real time, but I guess not. I guess you could say general vibe?

I also think yeeting the player most trying to solve the game on d1 in a flipless game is a really bad idea.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:14 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:12 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:10 pm Hyena, thanks. Got it re: boxes, that makes sense. That's odd to me because I feel like it'd be the opposite, but I guess my anecdotal experience could be skewed.

Re: alignment indicative, I'm not really sure. I think my random post speculating about pivotal player/yeet was not a post I'd bother faking if I were scum here, otherwise I don't think so.

Re: self-resolving comment, I don't get why this is so confusing but honestly let's just drop it. I was literally just talking about in my own perception. It was a rumination on the gamestate. I feel like no one understood it. That's on me.
Okay, I'll drop it. Sorry if I'm being annoying and nitpicky. :hug: Just doing my thing and trying to figure things out. <3
It's really okay.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:12 pm
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Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:11 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 pm
Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:41 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:28 pm
Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:32 am
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm

Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).
I seem to remember you getting to action more quickly before. Why are you taking it slowly here?

Also, I think you're right, it must have been that game! Hahaha that's the only game I've been wolf here since my return and it wasn't even my original rand because of the zombie sub-in. Gosh that feels like ages ago, doesn't it?
Yeah, I usually try to get to action as quickly as I can, but a couple of factors in game are stopping me from doing so at the moment. The two main ones are 1. I haven't had a chance to interact with everyone yet, which means I don't have a complete picture of the game yet, and 2. the small size of this game, which is making me feel like I have to be more accurate with my reads early on since we could be in LYLO as soon as tomorrow.

For #1, I feel like the only people I really have thorough interactions with is Hally (who I've had the most interaction with), Cayvie (who I haven't directly interacted with yet), and Mist (who I don't need as much interaction with since I've got a lot of experience with her). Outside my interactions, the only heavy interacting between two people that I know that's happening without rereading the thread is between you and Hally. What I'd like to see is more interactions between people I haven't seen interact yet. Of the people I named above, I'd really like to see you and Mist interact right now, because I don't know how you two as a pair fit into this whole game just yet.

Even if those interactions did occur though, that still leaves Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie, who I've got pretty much nothing on? Wanna know why I'm fencesitting on the people I've made genuine reads on so far? Because I don't know how Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie are going to fit into the whole equation yet. Everyone outside of those three could be town for all I know. Thus, based on the incomplete picture that I've got right now, I'm just taking guesses right now.

How #2 plays into this though is that because of the low number of players and the number of yeets/night kills/vig shots that we all potentially have this game, I feel more nervous about sticking to my guns because I don't think I can afford to be wrong as often as I usually can. In a normal 9+ player game, we at least have two days where we can miss on hitting scum without losing. That's not the case here. I feel like we have to make sure we hit mafia either today, tonight (with a vig shot), or tomorrow. If anything, I think the low number of players makes me more nervous about the game than the flipless mechanic.
Hey Hyena, I'm not sure I understand why you want to see Mist and me specifically, can you elaborate on that?

I appreciate the response, thank you.
Well, I mean, do you know Mist's alignment already? If not, are you interested in figuring it out? Is Mist interested in figuring out yours? I don't know any of these things based on the lack of interaction between you two.
Those questions are loaded as fuck. I get your point though I guess, but like, I've barely interacted with half the game?
Yes, lol, those questions, and other questions I've asked, are intended to be loaded. And yes, I know you've barely interacted with half the game. I haven't either. That's why I wanted to see you and Mist interact more. :P
Hahaha, it's cool, I got it.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena, thanks. Got it re: boxes, that makes sense. That's odd to me because I feel like it'd be the opposite, but I guess my anecdotal experience could be skewed.

Re: alignment indicative, I'm not really sure. I think my random post speculating about pivotal player/yeet was not a post I'd bother faking if I were scum here, otherwise I don't think so.

Re: self-resolving comment, I don't get why this is so confusing but honestly let's just drop it. I was literally just talking about in my own perception. It was a rumination on the gamestate. I feel like no one understood it. That's on me.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:46 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm someone tell me how i should be reading mp. im nervous im being pocketed
How are you reading me though?
i don’t knooooooow :|
Sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying, I'm really out of it right now. Remembering why I'm on a break tbh.
i don’t find you annoying nw!
Okay, I'm glad! Thanks. I feel like emotionally worn right now and it's showing hahaha.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:52 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:41 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:30 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:33 pm what if hyena is town and mp is scum pocketing me over my incorrect hyena sus?
For not having a reason to call me scum you're certainly speculating on it quite often. Is there something I can do?
idk i’m just kinda paranoid about how quickly you tr me and wondering if it was a genuine attempt to solve my alignment or just trying to win me over. i know im very susceptible to being pocketed because of my personality so i get wary when i feel like someone might be doing that. and outside of tr’ing me there isn’t much to read you on. but i know you’re busy
Is there anything I can do to assist with the underlined, like... any post(s) specifically in interactions with you that you would like me to talk more about or something?
well can you talk about why you tr me?
TL;DR version is: effort, genuine, I really liked our interactions.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:58 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:49 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:44 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm ok ran is probably town
But why?
our reads seem to align pretty closely atm
Oh, I see!
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:57 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:47 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 pm Hey Hally! Yeah, I got to it just now. XD

Thanks for responding anyway. Is there anything you want my opinion on?
any thoughts on cayvie? or ran’s entrance? or maybe sabie (heh that rhymes)?
Let me ISO cayvie momentarily actually.

Ran's entrance is fine I guess? I need to talk to her I think, our brains probably aren't very similar and that's okay!

Sabie seems genuinely perturbed but I'm not sure how to gain anything alignment-indicative. Maybe I'll quickly ISO her too and see if I can pick at anything.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:56 pm
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Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:34 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:20 pm yea i actually liked hyenas longish post i just quoted. i can buy that as a genuine thought process
What did you think was genuine specifically?
i liked the part about how he felt he didn’t have a full map of the game because he hadn’t interacted with a lot of ppl yet. i felt that because i also make reads primarily through interaction and have been feeling similarly stifled by ppl not being around much
Okay, this makes sense, thanks.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:46 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:23 pm someone tell me how i should be reading mp. im nervous im being pocketed
How are you reading me though?
i don’t knooooooow :|
Sorry, I'm not trying to be annoying, I'm really out of it right now. Remembering why I'm on a break tbh.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:41 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:28 pm
Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:32 am
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm
Hally wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm hyena, jic you missed it, i asked what your actual reads are if you have any
Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).
I seem to remember you getting to action more quickly before. Why are you taking it slowly here?

Also, I think you're right, it must have been that game! Hahaha that's the only game I've been wolf here since my return and it wasn't even my original rand because of the zombie sub-in. Gosh that feels like ages ago, doesn't it?
Yeah, I usually try to get to action as quickly as I can, but a couple of factors in game are stopping me from doing so at the moment. The two main ones are 1. I haven't had a chance to interact with everyone yet, which means I don't have a complete picture of the game yet, and 2. the small size of this game, which is making me feel like I have to be more accurate with my reads early on since we could be in LYLO as soon as tomorrow.

For #1, I feel like the only people I really have thorough interactions with is Hally (who I've had the most interaction with), Cayvie (who I haven't directly interacted with yet), and Mist (who I don't need as much interaction with since I've got a lot of experience with her). Outside my interactions, the only heavy interacting between two people that I know that's happening without rereading the thread is between you and Hally. What I'd like to see is more interactions between people I haven't seen interact yet. Of the people I named above, I'd really like to see you and Mist interact right now, because I don't know how you two as a pair fit into this whole game just yet.

Even if those interactions did occur though, that still leaves Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie, who I've got pretty much nothing on? Wanna know why I'm fencesitting on the people I've made genuine reads on so far? Because I don't know how Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie are going to fit into the whole equation yet. Everyone outside of those three could be town for all I know. Thus, based on the incomplete picture that I've got right now, I'm just taking guesses right now.

How #2 plays into this though is that because of the low number of players and the number of yeets/night kills/vig shots that we all potentially have this game, I feel more nervous about sticking to my guns because I don't think I can afford to be wrong as often as I usually can. In a normal 9+ player game, we at least have two days where we can miss on hitting scum without losing. That's not the case here. I feel like we have to make sure we hit mafia either today, tonight (with a vig shot), or tomorrow. If anything, I think the low number of players makes me more nervous about the game than the flipless mechanic.
Hey Hyena, I'm not sure I understand why you want to see Mist and me specifically, can you elaborate on that?

I appreciate the response, thank you.
Well, I mean, do you know Mist's alignment already? If not, are you interested in figuring it out? Is Mist interested in figuring out yours? I don't know any of these things based on the lack of interaction between you two.
Those questions are loaded as fuck. I get your point though I guess, but like, I've barely interacted with half the game?
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:02 pm sabie seems like she’s really struggling to get into the game but idk if that’s scummy or just because of irl stress
She was pretty low-posty (with no connotation intended) from what I remember but that was ages ago.
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:41 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:30 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:33 pm what if hyena is town and mp is scum pocketing me over my incorrect hyena sus?
For not having a reason to call me scum you're certainly speculating on it quite often. Is there something I can do?
idk i’m just kinda paranoid about how quickly you tr me and wondering if it was a genuine attempt to solve my alignment or just trying to win me over. i know im very susceptible to being pocketed because of my personality so i get wary when i feel like someone might be doing that. and outside of tr’ing me there isn’t much to read you on. but i know you’re busy
Is there anything I can do to assist with the underlined, like... any post(s) specifically in interactions with you that you would like me to talk more about or something?
by Tangrowth
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: LGBT+ Mafia [END - Mafia Win]
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Views: 21540

Re: LGBT+ Mafia [Day 1]

Hyena wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:36 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:34 pm ok town core is me/mist/tony/ran

poe is mp/cayvie/sabie

hyena swing slot but lean town
What if Mist and I are the team? :D Or Tony and I?
Why are you asking this? Lmao.

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