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by timmer
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Np... the great part is y'all get to sit back after the draft while I obsessively add box office for months lol
by timmer
Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

And I just checked... Dark Phoenix's release date was changed a whopping 6 days ago. I made my spreadsheet 2 weeks ago. Dayum.
by timmer
Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

@DH, I'm going to dumb down those rules about moving onto future rounds, I don't think we have enough players to give anyone a pass straight to round 3.

And if we have to drop lapluie out of the game, I will likely only drop the bottom 1 player out when we head to the golden globes round...
by timmer
Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

No prob, I know this is new for you guys.

On terms of Oscars and golden globes etc eventually gold derby will have their Oscar predictions up but they haven't launched it yet. Once thru do the world's most obsessive awards predictors will be our guide lol
by timmer
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

So that first question I will be using the-numbers.com as they get the official daily reports for box office.

To that second point, while a lot of the eventual awards -y film won't be known yet, many can be guessed. If a studio has strong faith in their film for awards they will set it an awards friendly date. Watch for films set to open in September or October for instance, which is where many start their run.

If you see a film with a frequent Oscar nominee opening there it may be srs bsns. Also many strong Oscar hopefuls actually will be listed as opening in early January 2019... they will get a tiny qualifying run in ny/la to build buzz, generally over Christmas, and then open wide January 3rd. Watch for big sounding films with big names opening the re.

Now a film like that will earn you no box office but strong awards potential.

Actors and box office.... yes if an actor is going to be in 3 films that may be better then 1 it spreads out your chances but.. you better be sure about those film because as soon as the actors first film opens they are locked on your roster for good lol
by timmer
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

And I've opened a separate thread for the actual draft!
by timmer
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

M Plus 7 wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:09 am Oh man, I'm first? I don't even know. Is there a list of movies somewhere? :p
http://www.imdb.com/calendar/

Remember, only films that open after May 1st!
by timmer
Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:54 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

God damn my honesty....

From random.org:

1. M Plus 7
2. lapluie
3. INH
4. ricochet
5. JJJ
6. Golden
7. iron dwarf
8. Dunya
9. DH
10. Timmer
IP: 255.230.109.113
Timestamp: 2018-03-31 03:52:57 UTC
by timmer
Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:31 pm @timmer how many movies will we get to pick before we switch to picking actors? And the draft order is the same for the Actor Draft, a new order, or inversed?
There are 5 rounds of films, and I'll have to double check but I think 7 rounds of actors. The order is inverted for the actors, so whoever gets the first film will get the last actor.
by timmer
Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:57 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

dunya wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:58 am wait wait wait.

so whoever picks first the second and third and fourth have to pick completely different choices?

perhaps i didn't read the rules as well as i should have lol
Oh yes, it's no different than fantasy sports, only one team can have Mike Trout!
by timmer
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

DharmaHelper wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:23 pm TBH I'm just hoping for a top draft position. Whoever gets like the first 2 or 3 picks is just going to swipe up the big money movies.
Me too! In the league I'm in on the other site, they just did the draft order and I'm picking.... 14th out of 16. :sigh: It's brutal. With our group of 10, I think you could be 9th or 10th and make 2 picks that equal the big money films.... but 14th out of 16? Fuck me, I'll struggle to find films that can even gross $100 million with that.
by timmer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Easiest is for people, once they make their pick, to use the "@" thing to holla to the next person... this will be interesting indeed, and if it flops, we won't even know it for months, lol
by timmer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:28 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Yup Between May 1st and Dec 31st it's all box office-based, and as of Jan 1st, strictly awards based.

It will be five rounds of movies to start with.

Unless someone jumps in in the next few days, I'll assign a draft order and we can start a slow draft April 1st, so get ready!
by timmer
Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:48 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

So... close...
by timmer
Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

We have plenty of time on this, I would want to start that draft around April 1st so hopefully we can find 2 more!
by timmer
Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

MovingPictures07 wrote: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:08 pm I know nothing about movies, but I'll participate too if it helps get this off the ground!
[mention]MovingPictures07[/mention]

You should sign up, then... :mafia:
by timmer
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

G-Man wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:27 pm How involved is this? Are we constantly picking up and dropping picks or do we ride out the year?
You could reasonably do the draft and then not even look at your roster for months at a time.

/the first phase lasts until Dec 31st, so if you draft a few big budget films and with some rudimentary research a few awards hopefuls, you can sit back and enjoy your life, lol...

The first big shift typically happens during fall film festival season when the toronto/telluride/new york premieres happen, and that's september, so... there ya go :)
by timmer
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:03 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

DharmaHelper wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:54 pm
timmer wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:59 pm The list is literally every single movie coming out. Box office will count from May 1st to Dec. 31 so any movie whatsoever that the internet says is coming out can be yours to draft. If that film you draft changes its release date to next spring you can dump it and grab another available film.
Any movie that's in theatres may 1st or any movie whose release date is on may 1st onwards?
It must open in theatres on May 1st or later. Sadly, a certain superhero movie will be missing by mere days...
by timmer
Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

For awards potential check out gold derby. They should soon start putting up Oscar predictions etc. For which stars are in which films you've got imdb and also hsx could help.
by timmer
Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

In terms of awards potential, some films will earn bank and get lots of noms (Dunkirk) others will not earn any money by Dec 31st (Phantom Thread) but get noms.

For this year, Ad Astra seems like it had awards potential galore but it isn't opening, as of now, until Jan. 4th. So you could draft it, but you would have to count it as a zero for expected box office. It would be exclusively for awards, and THE BOTTOM BOX OFFICE EARNERS DON'T MAKE IT TO THE AWARDS ROUNDS. lots to think about....

Also you can stock on awards y films but choo with box office strong actors, or vice versa, or find a balance between the two.
by timmer
Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

The list is literally every single movie coming out. Box office will count from May 1st to Dec. 31 so any movie whatsoever that the internet says is coming out can be yours to draft. If that film you draft changes its release date to next spring you can dump it and grab another available film.
by timmer
Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

I added a poll and included myself in it. I had hoped to only run the game but I'll participate if it means we get the numbers!
by timmer
Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Ideally it needs about 10-12 players!
by timmer
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Hmm, sounds like not enough interest, it was worth a shot!
by timmer
Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Re: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

Here is a cut and paste of the complete rules for how it works:
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Studio Draft & Ownership:

Each studio head will draft a roster of 5 films and 10 actors to compete with for the season. Just like real world studios, your hope is that the films and actors you own the rights to will earn lots of money and win all the awards.

Film selections will perform as an umbrella pick, earning points based on the money and awards that the film is responsible for as a whole (including directing, writing, acting, crafts, etc.).

Actor selections will perform as an individual pick, earning points based on the money and awards they receive for their roles in all their films that open during box office season play (regardless of whether or not another studio owns the rights to the film). An actor selection who is also a director or writer only earns points as an actor. For example, in 2014, Angelina Jolie as an actor pick was eligible for Maleficent, but not Unbroken. Angelina Jolie as a director earned points for the studio that owned Unbroken as a film pick.

Each film and actor can only be owned by one studio.

Draft begins April 1 and will conclude before the end of the month. The draft is your first chance to acquire films and actors that you'll own throughout the year--unless, of course, you drop your rights to them. The order of the draft will be determined at random and follow a snake pattern. In a snake draft the first to choose in round 1 becomes the last to choose in round 2 and the first again in round 3. Each studio will fill all of their film slots before selecting actors.

While the draft is in progress, no changes to your picks are allowed. If you make a selection it is locked as soon as you submit--no edits. However, once the draft is complete and all studios have a full roster, studio heads can begin dropping and adding selections as they see fit up until Dec. 31, 2018, as long as the film has not had an official opening yet. Once a film or film that an actor is in has had its theatrical box office/streaming premiere in the US, limited or otherwise, that film and/or actor selection becomes permanently locked to that studio roster for the season.

To note: This is an annual game. Next season, any returning studios will allowed one contract pick before the start of the draft. A contract pick is an actor that the studio owned in the previous season and wishes to bring along for a consecutive season without the threat of another studio drafting him or her. If retained, your contract pick is an automatic first round actor pick in the draft, meaning you’ll make your first new pick on your turn in the second round. This could factor into whether or not you draft someone this season, knowing what they have in the pipeline for next season. If you play again next season, you maintain your studio. If you don't play again, a new player will inherit your studio.

League Structure:

Round 1: Box Office Regular Season

The box office round runs from Tuesday, May 1, 2018 to Monday, December 31, 2017, making any film with a US opening, limited or otherwise, in that time frame eligible to be drafted & earn points, as well as the actors that appear in them. Box office earnings is for US totals only, not international. Limited/awards qualifying openings count, even if no official box office earnings are reported. Films with openings before or after the season cut-offs are ineligible to compete (in any capacity) in the league. For example, in 2017, Logan could not be drafted by a studio. Hugh Jackman could be drafted by a studio, but his role in Logan was ineligible because it opened before the start of the league. His role in The Greatest Showman was eligible though because that opened in the window.

Festival screenings/premieres do not qualify as official openings. For example, any film that showed at Sundance or Berlin is available for draft, unless of course they have their theatrical run begin before May or after December.

Films without official release dates set are eligible to be drafted. If they never get their release date, they can be dropped and replaced as the owner sees fit. Similarly, films without official titles can be drafted, so long as it is clear which work-in-progress film is being drafted.

Film selections will earn points based on the total box office earnings of that film, represented as one full point for every million dollars earned and down to the fraction of one thousand dollars.

2016 example:
- Finding Dory earned $486,295,000 by Dec. 31, 2016 for 486.295 points
- Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk earned $1,738,000 by Dec. 31, 2016 for 1.738 points

Actor selections will earn points based on a percentage of the total box office earnings for each film they’re in. The total box office for each film will be divided evenly by all league actors that appear in the film (in any capacity—credited or uncredited) validated by being listed on the film’s IMDB page. Totals of films starring only one league actor will be divided by 2 (not 1).

2016 example:
- Finding Dory had 4 league actors, each earned 1/4 of the film’s points for 121.57 each
- Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk had 2 league actors, earning 1/2 of the points for .869 each

Rounds 2 through 6: Awards Playoffs

At the end of the regular season on Dec. 31, 2018, box office tallies will be finalized and only the 12 top grossing studios will advance while the 4 lowest grossing studios will be eliminated.

In this postseason phase of the league, the focus of your studio now turns to how well your films and actors perform at a select number of awards shows. In each round, studios will compete for the highest number of nominations and wins at five different shows. The order of rounds is determined by their air date—I expect that round 2 will be the Golden Globes, round 3 Critics Choice, round 4 a collection of all the guild awards, round 5 BAFTA and the final/round 6 is the Oscars. At the end of each round the lowest scoring studios will be eliminated from play with only the final 4 competing at the Oscars.

Earning awards points:
Your film and actor picks earn you points in the following ways during awards play:

- Nomination: 1 point each (films earn 1 point for every nomination in any category, actors earn 1 point for every nomination they specifically earn, but not for ones their film earns)
- Best Film win: 10 points (film selections only; for the Golden Globes, 10 points will be given to the two films that win Drama and Comedy/Musical); if a studio owns a doc, foreign or animated film they only earn 10 points for BP-equivalent wins, not their genre-specific categories (that counts as "All other categories" below)
- Actor win: 5 points to actor selections, 2 points to film selections (lead and supporting, and only 2 points to an actor and film when part of the SAG ensemble win)
- Director win: 5 points (film selections only)
- Screenplay win: 5 points (film selections only)
- All other categories: 2 points (film selections only)

In the case of a tie during any round, a winner must be determined between the tying studios. To settle this, the points each studio acquired in nominations will be removed. That means which ever studio earned the most points based solely on wins will advance. If this process does not determine a winner then a hierarchy of wins will be established, where a studio with the rights to the winning film in this succession of categories will move on: Best Film, Best Director, Best Screenplay (Original then Adapted), Best Lead Actress then Actor, Best Supporting Actress then Actor, Animated, Foreign, Documentary, Score, Cinematography, Editing, Song, Production Design, Costumes, Makeup, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing. (Note that the hierarchy is for film rights, not actor rights.)

Elimination Chart:

Round 1 (Box Office):
Top 1 advances to Round 3
Middle 11 advance to Round 2
Bottom 4 eliminated

Round 2 (Golden Globes):
Top 9 advance to Round 3
Bottom 2 eliminated

Round 3 (Critics Choice):
Top 8 advance to Round 4
Bottom 2 eliminated

Round 4 (BAFTA):
Top 6 advance to Round 5
Bottom 2 eliminated

Round 5 (Guilds):
Top 4 advance to Round 6
Bottom 2 eliminated

Round 6 (Oscars):
Top 1 wins

General Advice on Strategy:

There are really two things you need to focus on when drafting for your studios--money and awards. Selecting box office juggernauts is going to secure your spot in round 2. This is a good thing. You can’t win the league without making it beyond box office.

But once you enter the playoffs your box office won’t matter so you’ll want to keep in mind that in order to make it through the playoffs you’ll need to own some awards contenders as well. As an example, the top 5 grossing films drafted into our 2017 league (that debuted from May to Dec.) were: Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Wonder Woman, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man: Homecoming and It —few of which were major awards contenders, but the owners of each of those films did make it to the playoffs.

The hardest rounds to navigate are box office and the Golden Globes. Box office because not all big money films secure you enough awards capital to matter in the later rounds. The studios that owned Darkest Hour and The Post last year were eliminated in box office. Golden Globes because there are so few categories to compete for. Nominations here are important or you'll drop out.

The best and clearest advice is to have a mix of blockbusters and awards fare—for every Marvel film you pick, add a Call Me by Your Name. Or pick an actor that excels in both arenas, like Woody Harrelson who banked money from War for the Planet of the Apes and awards for Three Billboards. Additionally, you’ll want to keep a close eye on the playing field as the season progresses, adding and dropping films & actors as their buzz rises and falls. Actors in high grossing films with small casts (think Sandra Bullock in Gravity, for instance) can earn you a lot of box office points, sometimes more than film picks can.

But essentially it all comes down to what you believe will have the biggest presence of the year, and that’s what makes it fun to compete.
by timmer
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?
Replies: 95
Views: 3625

Anyone up for a fantasy movie draft?

This is a fun event I'm a part of on a different site, and thought it might find a welcome home here, as well?

The basics:

It's a fantasy draft combining films and individual actors to compete on two fronts - box office and end-of-year awards.

The first draft is for films, followed by a second draft for actors.

You are free to drop films and replace them with available ones right up until the day they are released in the United States, but once a film opens (including preview screenings on Thursdays!!) it is locked on your roster forever.

You are also free to drop actors and replace them, as long as they have not had a film open while on your roster... replacement actors may have had a film open already, but since no one owned them yet it is okay.

Phase 1 of the contest lasts from May 1st to Dec. 31st. and is the box office phase. All of your films' box office receipts count up until Dec. 31st and no more, so a huge film that opens Christmas Day may not actually make you as much money as you had hoped.

IMPORTANT: on Dec. 31st, the bottom most grossing players are eliminated. We then move to Phase 2-6 which are Golden Globes/BFCA/Guilds/BAFTA/Oscars, with each phase dropping the lowest scoring players out until only a few remain (we will have to tweak this once we see if we get enough players)

To win, you need enough box office to get into the awards phases, but not so many box office films that you then have no Oscar contenders...

I can explain more later, but for now.... anyone interested???

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