The Syndicate

Read through splints' posts.

So one question I have for splints, from earlier in the game, is what this post was about:

fingersplints wrote:RIP Banana and RIPIYWG Timmer. Sorry for missing the vote and general absence. Will try to be more around from here on out.

I like the points about sig, and am interested to hear his response. Lorab's post remarking about Timmer's low posting also bothers me.

LoRab wrote:Thinking about Timmer's death...and RIPIYWG Timmer of course...two things dawn on me. One is that the mafia team was going for a low poster. Two is that it would seem like good strategy for someone to separate themselves from killing a low poster by talking about how against lynching low posters they are. Just a thought.

Partially because the idea is similar to that of sig's (something discussed in btsc maybe) and this really just feels like trying to set up someone talking about lynching a low poster.

I read this as you agreeing that sig is suspicious (like the points about sig) but simultaneously suspecting lorab for suspecting sig? What was your gist, here? I don't see how you could suspect both sides of something?

As for the rest of splints' posts, she never really latched onto the cases against the known baddies, but has spent time commenting on things without getting too involved, a lot like how juliets often does. She NO U'd Epig at one point.

I'm not sure anything cries out as baddie specifically, but I don't get a strong civ vibe, either. The latest posts are a bit odd, to say the least, but maybe she's just not caught up?

Long Con wrote:

timmer wrote:@HOSTS, the front page post with the links to players' post histories has reywas's history on bass the clever. Could you change bass' link to show his posts when you get a chance, please?

Done. Good reporting! For your diligence, I grant you a Spirit Butterfly to flutter about you as you travel.

Thanks!

I started out going alphabetical, but bass' post history was boring. He could easily be bad or good, there's just nothing there to chew on.

I also tried looking through the lynch polls to see if juliets and luke's voting patterns matched up with a teammates in any obvious way, but nothing really jumped out at me there. I'll try to focus on reading the people currently being discussed.

@HOSTS, the front page post with the links to players' post histories has reywas's history on bass the clever. Could you change bass' link to show his posts when you get a chance, please?

So Mac... going through your posts, you've listed at various times about 8 people who you think are scum, but you've never stuck to one thought for more than about half a day. Can you clarify who you are most suspicious of, and why?

I also notice that you asked me about Dom way back. I have no opinion on him, like I've got no real opinion on most players in the game. I'm trying to catch up here, though.

I actually have the morning off, woo-hoo!

So I see there are a million votes on a million people. I'll try to look into each one. The one thing I'm familiar with the most is Tranq's declaration about Floyd having killed him. So bear with, I'm going to try to get back into the saddle a bit, here.

I'm not associated with any of the various lynch potentials, Mac. I'm sticking with juliets as lynch choice because I understand the case on her and at this point in the game, that's good enough for me. I'm definitely not opposed to a Floyd lynch, either, you can look back through my posts to see I've been consistent on that. Tranq would not have asked Floyd about killing him for no reason. If the lynch comes down to juliets or Floyd, I think we win the day no matter what.

I'm sticking with juliets as a target for today's lynch.

I'm not sure how to digest your about-face, I can't help feel like there is something I'm missing. That said, I'm happy to vote for juliets.

And I've also been working evening shifts all week (and right this second, as well) and it is very difficult for me to post while at work. I've been managing it because you are forcing me to defend against your ideas which are offbase, but I'm not really supposed to be here doing this.

Golden wrote:
Plus, I believe timmer to be lying about having no items. That was the point at which he guaranteed my vote, because there is no way that is true.

Hey, Golden?

Care to launch a sig bet on this? Because I HAVE NO ITEMS. I cannot be any more blatantly clear about it. You are wrong about me. And if I haven't worked very hard to day to flseh out new and interesting cases, it's because the case against juliets is solid as hell, and I'm pretty sure Tranq is likely on to something re: Floyd, as well.

I'm going to have to hold my vote for self-preservation, but I do believe a juliets lynch will catch a baddie, and if I must vote Floyd to save my life, it seems Tranq is pretty certain of his guilt and Floyd has not said anything to dissaude me from thinking that.

Golden wrote:
Because I believe that, as the sole survivor of a square with two other people, you probably now hold items that are bad news in the hands of a baddie.

"Now that I have set this in motion I am hedging my statements"

I've been very clear all along about what things I am sure about and what things I am not. Is your preference that I don't do this? Don't you think it's better that the civilians are told exactly where my thought processes are at? I don't think it does you or the town any favours for me to pretend or lie about exactly why I think you might be bad, better that I be honest.

I have no items in my possession, Golden.

Golden you are trying to decide if it is fair to extrapolate? You already HAVE extrapolated, and are voting me and causing others to vote me as well even though you admit to thinking juliets is bad which I agree with you on. But now that you have sat this in motion you sure are hedging your statements fast and making sure people know you aren't sure. This is blatant. and in a previous post you suggested I need to die urgently. Why?

Golden, you are leaping to assumptions and need to realize that you clearly (from my POV) do not know everything you think you know, and are ignoring what I'm trying to tell you (without busting the rules). I can honestly tell you that I had an item in my hands that was not what it seemed, and I had never heard the term Obsidian Dagger before Epig died from it today.

And as for me being passive, I've been passive in every game I've played in the last 6 months, except for when I've found conclusive proof that I wanted to pursue. I've made too many mistakes by only half paying attention and then leaping into poorly-formed suspicions, so I no longer do that until I'm sure. This has been my play as both baddie AND civ, and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Also, you suggested that you thought my suspicion of you was not legit, but Golden, who is the one person who I know was near me when I died? Of COURSE I've been eyeing you all game, look back through my posts. And I've tried to ask people, when I could, what they thoguht of you.

I can't undo what happened last night, but you can realize that your assumptions about last night are NOt entirely accurate. I'm at work,so my posting will remain sporadic today.

Sorry for the garbling I'm on my phone in transit.

Golden you've tried to attach a motive and alignment and history to me that I cannot defend against without breaking the rules, beyond what I've already said. You ate partly right and very largely partly of base with some odd your thoughts in this game. I soak you would see that, and I will once again caution everyone that some items on the map do not do what they are advertised as doing.

Golden, I don't have time for a lot of detail here, but I think I can say that you have hit on some truth but are misguided about some things as well. I am not a fan of info dumping but will say that I have come into contact with an item that was not actually what it said it was and there have been consequences. I've tried to help the cause and ultimately it seems have caused more trouble than anything.

So, with the time I had for the game today, I just read back through Canuckle and Juliets. I'm going to give Canuck a pass as I think she is probably hinting at the truth with the indy thing, and frankly I only like lynching indies when there is no clear case on a baddie. Juliets, however, I can see as bad. Reading through her posts, there is a lot of the usual juliets polite questions etc. but VERY little content of her own. The only thing she has consistently hung onto from what I can see is the sig case, which, whir I've supported it for tangential reasons, is based on very little meat. Juliets' posts feel like she's just saying what needs to be said to appear to be engaging. Thus, a vote for juliets from me.

Nice lynches today! I voted no in the poll, I'm busy, unable to post much more but I've followed my pocket suspicions as best I can, I don't see why I should be punished for working long shifts.

Voted Sog. I don't trust him or Golden. SVS makes a good point about Canuckle I will consider a vote there layer on.

I've voted Golden in section 1. My gut tells me he is bad. As foe the second section I have no suspects and it appears that bubbles is going to be lynched so I tossed the vote away on eloh.

I'm having a gallbladder attack so don't expect any more from me for this evening.

I don't put much into the undertones of the epig Typh stuff yet, nor am I sure yet of where things are with MacDougall or bugle. I'm at work and wok only sporadically be able to post on breaks.

I think Goldens idea about Bubbles mentioning me hours before a night past where I died, to preemptively distance, males no sense. Who does that? As for Sig being the one to kill me, I have no opinion on that, but there is something pingin me about how Golden is defending him. I don't trust it.

I'm mostly caught up. I'm not sure I trust Mr. Golden. I'm also not sure I trust Mr. Sig. I definitely prefer the case against Sig than Golden's case on Bubbles.

Will catch up in the game tonight!

Oh hai.

I apologize for missing the vote.

I'll try to read through and comment when I get hoe, but it's a very busy day for me.

Voted Other because my fave music is EDM. Will tune in more later.