S~V~S wrote:LizKeen wrote:I vote Democratic Mafia.
I am not a fan of clique mafia, it's why I stopped playing before. So if game order is decided by votes I fall on the side of weighted . Just curious though, why can't games be played in the order of submission or by whose game is ready first?
Weighted votes are more likely to reward cliques unless there is a large voter group, imo. For instance let's say you have a group of five that can be expected to give preference to each other. One of them, and only one, has submitted a game. If all five of them vote for it with their first preference vote, that gives it 20 votes. With a minimum of 10 games, you would need alot of voters to eqalize that advantage in a weighted system. Not saying we have that situation, but if we did, its impact would be minimized by not weighting votes. Plus its more transparent which I like.
And we do do first come first played in the speed queue. Running that queue as supply side and this one as consumer demand driven balances out nicely. Also deadline pressure can be the incentive some people need to finish a game. Plus it is fun
We have a lot of exciting games coming up, it will be a good year!
TBH, that's not an accurate representation of how weighted votes work, SVS.
Ideally, everyone would create their own queue. Submit it. Then, the aggregate would be calculated. SO, let's say there's 5 games to be ranked. Let's say a group of 5 people rank the same game as number 1. That gives it 25 points. Now, if any five people rank another game #1, or if some rank it #1 and some #2... a balance can be met quite easily. 4 #2s plus 2 #1s but this new game in the lead now. This, of course, is only considering selected votes.
This is absolutely no different to when you have, let's say 4 votes, and they're all worth 1. So four people vote for a game they want to play. That STILL requires 4 other people to vote for another game to even tie it.
The weighted system basically allows us to run run off elections in a world where certain games did not get submitted. Users can vote for their favorites without fearing: 1) how other people are voting and how that might affect the order and 2) that some games will receive NO votes because ideally, every game submitted by every person would receive 1.
In addition, your complaint about cliques seems very... wrong to me? If 5 people want to play a game first-- how is this unfair? How would it be unfair that their first choice gains a lot of support/points just from them? If there's more demand for the representation of the game, then it should be represented as such. Right? More votes=higher preference.
By any real, reliable measure, he lost. It just would have been assured with alternative voting.