The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:I said I waffle on Dom, he fooled the crap out of me in Shawshank, and I totally misread him in CAH. Plus I have known him since he was like 13 or so so it is hard for me to NOT fall for his sympathy act. I thought I was exceedingly clear after he was saved but before he was lynched. I did not know Doms role, we did not have BTS, I was not on Doms bad team. It is what it is.

boo wrote:

Dom wrote:More importantly, I must vote in a way that preserves myself, as I also have two votes.



Epig, you're seeming desperate to make anyone look bad. I speculated on someone else's idea and swiftly said it could go either way.

If you genuinely think Epi is more suspicious than TH then I think you'll (probably) be safe voting for him, even after his vote would likely go to you as retribution.

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:More importantly, I must vote in a way that preserves myself, as I also have two votes.



Epig, you're seeming desperate to make anyone look bad. I speculated on someone else's idea and swiftly said it could go either way.

Desperate? I named tree people. There's four rotten runnin' round here. As I said, I'm callin' out da hypocriticals.

You wanna vote Turnips and save ya skin or not?

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Dom accused me of cheatin' the lie detector man when he himself hadn't said a word anyone could measure one way or another.
.

This isn't quite true.

Dom wrote:Anyway, I think this discussion about Epig's speak is valuable to an extent. It would be a very Epignosis thing to do: speak in a way that gets you out of LD statements and also seeming so Epig it's meta-epig.
Or something.

My reply:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 692#p58692

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:I am not on a team with Turnip Head.

How'd you feel about voting Turnips?

Epignosis wrote:Dom accused me of cheatin' the lie detector man when he himself hadn't said a word anyone could measure one way or another.
.

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:I am a guy. Lol.
I am assuming the icon confuses people. Understood.

And to Boo & Dom, what I meant was that why make all those different statements rather than just saying one bold "I am not bad" statement? The other statements just give the LD something to be tricked by, IMO. Does that make sense, or nah?

I apologize for not being as involved. My life is crazy busy and this is the first time I have played 2 mafia games at once and I probably shouldn't have done that...........I don't know how you all do it. I really do not see what people see in Epi. I do not know who to vote between SVS and Dom. Maybe I am just not experienced enough with Epi.................but I still do not like their votes for him. I really do not understand it and they to me refuse to think otherwise...............since Kate is voting Dom, I will not split but also vote Dom because I would rather one of Dom or SVS lynched than Epi. Also have good vibes from Kate.

SVS kind of answered why.


And I havne't yet voted, K4J. .

Sorry, I thought you and SVS voted Epi for some reason. I suppose my vote reasoning sounds pointless. I just do not like what I have seen between you and SVS. It feels weird. What is your opinion of SVS, BTW? I am sorry if you have said so.

kneel4justice wrote:I am a guy. Lol.
I am assuming the icon confuses people. Understood.

And to Boo & Dom, what I meant was that why make all those different statements rather than just saying one bold "I am not bad" statement? The other statements just give the LD something to be tricked by, IMO. Does that make sense, or nah?

I apologize for not being as involved. My life is crazy busy and this is the first time I have played 2 mafia games at once and I probably shouldn't have done that...........I don't know how you all do it. I really do not see what people see in Epi. I do not know who to vote between SVS and Dom. Maybe I am just not experienced enough with Epi.................but I still do not like their votes for him. I really do not understand it and they to me refuse to think otherwise...............since Kate is voting Dom, I will not split but also vote Dom because I would rather one of Dom or SVS lynched than Epi. Also have good vibes from Kate.

Turnip Head wrote:As for posting those quick checkable statements in the format that SVS and Dom used before me, well... If I hadn't done that, I'd be getting called out for not doing so, probably right about now. :P

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:In case I die, your mob includes Dom, S~V~S, and Turnip Head.

These posts always make me:


And you're quite confident.

Cocky/Confident is a trait of townie Epi.
Is it not?

Epignosis wrote:In case I die, your mob includes Dom, S~V~S, and Turnip Head.

S~V~S wrote:LOL

I am not rattling my lack of knowledge about Dom off to YOU, i am rattling it off to the LIE DETECTOR.

I have no knowledge of Doms role
I do not have BTS with Dom

etc.

I am not a baddie

Turnip head is not my teammate
I do not know turnip heads role

You can't push false accusations at people without peril with an LD (that is why, as a baddie centric player, I don;t have them in my games, but as a civ, i love them to bits)

Epignosis wrote:

Dom wrote:I think I'm seeing SVS's civvie game-- perhaps independent, but I'm leaning civvie.

You would.

Dom wrote:Anyway, I think this discussion about Epig's speak is valuable to an extent. It would be a very Epignosis thing to do: speak in a way that gets you out of LD statements and also seeming so Epig it's meta-epig.
Or something.

Maybe I'm not worried about scammin' the polygraph man.

Epignosis wrote:Accusin' me of tryin' to cheat the ol' lie detector man, eh? Well, this ain't hard with you only makin' eight posts, Dom:

Dom wrote:^Not a bad idea, perhaps.

Very good opening post.

I just thought of American Horror Story as I read .

Speculation
Your opinion
Nobody knows what you think.

Dom wrote:I'm tempted to vote train because I love the Orient Express.

Nobody knows what tempts you or what you love.

Dom wrote:Voted Train!

You voted train.

Dom wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Interesting... two "joke" votes one on top of the other.

My thoughts exactly.

Nobody knows what your thoughts are.

Dom wrote:My best friend is visiting, and I don't have a lot of time. I don't want to miss a vote, and I'm not convinced on either Epig nor HEdgie. So I'll randomize for Lizzy.

Unless your best friend is playing, nobody knows if this is true. You clearly didn't want to miss a vote. Nobody knows what you're convinced of. You probably randomized Liz.

Dom wrote:Stopping in:

What I meant is that I am not convinced that Epig has nefarious purposes. I think he's probably joking... And I think that anyone who votes Hedge isn't getting that.

Nobody knows what you think.

Dom wrote:Sorry to see you go FH.

I don't have time to address specific concerns or anything, but if I read like I wasn't making sense, it's likely I wasn't because until this morning, I hadn't sat down and closely read the thread. I was skimming along to keep up and such, but nothing that I should have been doing, and for that I apologize.
In addition, I had no idea Lizzy had a vote on her. I don't remember getting a link notification, but I would have re-randomized if I had known that.

Nobody knows if you were sorry to see FH go. Nobody knows if you have time to address specific concerns or anything. Nobody knows if you hadn't sat down and closely read the thread. Nobody knows if you were skimming along to keep up and such. Nobody knows if you had no idea Liz had a vote on her. Nobody knows if you remember getting a link notification. Nobody knows if you would have re-randomized if you had known that.

Dom wrote:Lizzy, I don't think it was clear that I didn't notice that you'd vote for yourself, then if it was, like I said, I wasn't reading very closely. I was skimming. I had a few minutes before we were out for awhile.

Anyway, I think this discussion about Epig's speak is valuable to an extent. It would be a very Epignosis thing to do: speak in a way that gets you out of LD statements and also seeming so Epig it's meta-epig.
Or something.

I think I'm seeing SVS's civvie game-- perhaps independent, but I'm leaning civvie. Epig could go either way.

Nobody knows what you think. Nobody knows if you were skimming. Nobody knows if you had a few minutes. Nobody knows what you think about how I jaw. Nobody knows what "a very Epignosis" thing is.

As soon as you've said a few syllables or hummed a few bars the old lie looker can look at, then you can try a little chin music on me. Until then, here's at you kid.

Lizzy wrote:

Dom wrote: In addition, I had no idea Lizzy had a vote on her. I don't remember getting a link notification, but I would have re-randomized if I had known that.

Were you trying to get me lynched?

I didn't see you make a post after you voted or upon your return to say 'I r sorrow about that', only the one to justify why you were not voting for Rob. So pardon me if I'm not buying this.


Are you trying to get me NK'd? And you seem like the most involved player thus far.

Epignosis wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Epi, you said you didn't notice Lizzy's self-vote until after Dom voted for her too. Can't you see how Dom could have missed Lizzy's vote well? He even said he was in a hurry at the time. Lizzy never explicitly stated her vote was a self vote, and so someone who was skimming and not looking at vote tallies could have completely missed it. The suspicion against Dom seems it can mostly be explained by the him not paying as much attention as he should have. I think you might be reading too much into it.

You know, you ain't too perceptive for a man runnin' the wire. I was suggesting that people oughta lay off Dom, who went random on Liz right after she cut herself without his noticing.

Even Sra. Tildes said I was defending Dom. I wasn't, however, because I think Sra. Tildes and Dom are partners in crime. I was just pointing out what was a rotten reason for voting a fella.

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:My best friend is visiting, and I don't have a lot of time. I don't want to miss a vote, and I'm not convinced on either Epig nor HEdgie. So I'll randomize for Lizzy.

This is weird for me.
Was Epi being serious??? (Serious question). Because it seems like you're treating his suspicion of Hedgie as serious, and I'm not sure I understand that.
It would have, to me, made more sense if you were saying you're not convinced on either Epi or Meta (since they're the ones who IMO did something to be concerned about (although I am not), not Hedgie). So I am a little puzzled as to this.

S~V~S wrote:Interesting... two "joke" votes one on top of the other.