The Syndicate

Mine.

Thanks, Epig

Lizzy:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I love you Dom, but never again >:(

Let me say, I was bummed when Dom got killed. As a host, you want to see roles take shape, and I like to think that I write interesting independent roles. But you brought him back!

Elmo Blatch had no Night kill. He would inherit Bogs' and Hadley's kills if they died. However, if someone voted for Dom and he was not lynched, then Dom could kill someone that voted for him and frame anyone. So finally he got to use his power and kill MR making it look like you did it.

Had MR not voted Dom, who knows?

That is an awesomely devious power!

Great game all around! I got to change my style up a bit and it worked for all of a couple days before I screwed myself with the contraband distribution ill.

I was sad I didn't get to use it more.

Thank you everyone!

lizzy I almost killed you instead of Russ. I definitely would not have won had I done that

Mongoose, why did you kill me in the first place?

Thanks sorsha!

Bullz you played an awesome game. I was convinced MR was Bogs. I actually can't believe how wrong I was. I asks you if you trusted me because I thought you were Red!

MR why did you send me a gift??? You didn't trust me at all?????



Epig this will always be one of my favorite games. I loved every second of it!

S~V~S wrote:I can't believe i rezzed that guy, lol.

MR you sending me tht pack of smokes actually kind of killed you

SVS I can't believe you rezzed the SK. Heh.
I was convinced you were Andy. I thought that's why you knew you wouldn't die inJJS lunch.




Epig about half of Jose were us talking about mafia in general and education and writing though haha.

Holy crap!! I didn't realize the game had ended and I've been PMing Epig about how nervous I am for my plans!

Thanks for the compliments all! I truly fought hard this game and I'm glad it payed off

SVS I felt especially bad about how I was playing you. Especially lately we have been good at reading each other and figuring out how to win together. It killed me to do that to you. You were Andy right?

My THREE kills this game were Russ, MR, and SVS. I'm so sad the till isn't role Epig developed didn't get played more.

Well what the ACTUAL fuck???????

i voted for bwt. i don't know how long dinner will be.

If I had to vote right now is vote BWT probably. I've suspected him the longest of the people left and I was thinking MR to be civvie until his recent antics.

MR, your total incooperation isn't helping. At all.

S~V~S wrote:Thank you, that is what i thought, i could have looked it up too, i just figured you knew, lol.

I need to sleep on this, tbh. Not so much on who I trust, but on who i distrust more. Also hoping to hear more from BWT. I am glad the poll crept later~

Same. I am working tomorrow so I'm glad we got some extra time.

MR, svs and I are not voting for each other. Who would you vote for if you couldn't vote for either one of us

It was Hadley SVS.

S~V~S wrote:MP is FAMED for throwing people under the bus, he throws them under the bus before the bus has even left the depot, lol.

And you are VERY good with words, MR. You can be almost mesmerizing.

And the part that Dom referenced re the John lynch was a different issue than your post. Um, I still think the world is all puppies and sunshine since he came back

Who killed you, Dom?

Hadley, I think. I'll check after I make this post. I'm on my phone so multitasking is hard

MR I have said several time what is significant about the voting record is that you/Mp voted for them AT THE END. when it didn't matter anymore. ... You didn't throw them under the bus, you covered your ass after it was nearly certain they were dying

S~V~S wrote:i don't think he actually saved me, but i am not sure he either knows that or even cares. Which says chaos role to me. So either last man of a baddie team, or LMS role, which are the same basic thing.

ALTHOUGH he said something yesterday that said something to me, and I hope he gets past the snark a bit and actually talks to us. Because he said something that gave me a BOTD moment.

Any opinions on BWT?

SVS, are you referring to how MR seemed to know you would not die in the JJ lynch? I have to speak delicately here, for obvious reasons, but do you mean MR having knowledge of an event or of the real vote count in that lynch, and why? If you're talking about that I thought MR had knowledge of why you were never going to die in the JJ lynch, then I know exactly what you're talking about. However, he has since backpeddled, seemingly.

as to BWT, I found him suspicious a few days ago, but nothing really has changed. SVS, what are you thinking about Bullz? You don't seem to want to lynch him now, though. What did you think of this post?
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 200#p48200
I just got baddie vibes reading it, but nothing in particular.


MR, you're desperate attempts are kind of getting sad now. I have said that Hadley has the kill and it doesn't say it passes down. The day Hadley died, that night, the SK killed. That's awfully convenient. So, it's possible that the SK picked up Hadley's kill. Maybe that's why the SK hasn't killed. I've explained this four or five times now, for you. Anyways, I have also said that you might be Bogs too. Lizzy's lynch was very surprising to me, to be honest. If you would stop trying to fling mud at me, and try and have real discussion, that would be great.

S~V~S wrote:I can't, really. Something happened to me. I thought it was related to a specific event, and i actually still think so. But MR made a remark that implied possible knowledge of it. Dom might or might not understand what i am saying.

i could have been reading into it, MR gives good words. He can weave them well.

Did I help you at all?

i hope all is well, ap!

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote:Well that's not the kill choice I was expecting
Svs where are you looking? Bullz? I still think it MR is bad that he is shawshank. BWT? Just by the numbers, it's not looking good :/

I'm thinking an MR lynch would be a good idea today. Bear in mind he got the cigs from that night poll though. I think it goes without saying but we need to be really careful today, if not it might be our last.

What baddie team do you think he is on?

I dunno, I'm not sure if Shawshank are still kicking. It'd be odd for us not to be told about it but Epi often has his own little touches that are different from how most hosts run games. The way he's acting makes me doubt he's civ, and his actions during the JJ lynch could've been a distraction or save attempt. He got attention onto SVS then switched his vote away so he could later say he had nothing to do with it if SVS got lynched? Of course, anyone could be the SK as well. I actually may have a way to ruin their day tonight, it's a bit of a gamble but it might pay off if we end up just lynching a Sister instead.

I have been thinking he's Shawshank just by looking at his voting record. MP was one of the last Boo voters and MR was one of the last Mongoose voters as well. I can see MR, as a baddie, doing that.

However, I have been starting to think about him being a Sister. I've been thinking about what you just brought up. I can see MR doing that, big time. He's been causing a huge amount of chaos in the thread with his votes, saying that the civvies should be taking advantage of that. I don't see how civs could coordinate that without BTSC. He has been playing theatrics in the thread and it's not exactly helpful. I think he's just trying to create the maximum amount of confusion.

Whatever MR is doing, it doesn't seem very civvie-minded to me. He pushes lynches to the brink, twice I can think of off the top of my head-- the last two. He literally stopped SVS from dying at the last second, and he also pulled the same type of thing last lynch.

Regardless, whoever Bogs is, their feeble attempt to frame SVS and I should not fool anyone.

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote:Well that's not the kill choice I was expecting
Svs where are you looking? Bullz? I still think it MR is bad that he is shawshank. BWT? Just by the numbers, it's not looking good :/

I'm thinking an MR lynch would be a good idea today. Bear in mind he got the cigs from that night poll though. I think it goes without saying but we need to be really careful today, if not it might be our last.

What baddie team do you think he is on?

Well that's not the kill choice I was expecting
Svs where are you looking? Bullz? I still think it MR is bad that he is shawshank. BWT? Just by the numbers, it's not looking good :/

Mister Rearranger wrote:Better to overestimate than underestimate.

But hey, maybe you won't?

Nice NO U

How do you know The SK is kiing tonight?

Mister Rearranger wrote:Gee, thanks for stopping by, BwiT.

I'm quite confident that I will be killed by someone tonight. My only hope is that both killers take me out to minimize the casualties.

Both?

....?
I'm really shocked and confused.

I like music. I picked the harmonica.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Dom wrote:Although, even if they did, I wouldn't tell you. You're trying to get me to out two civvies.

I'm absolutely not.

If you haven't picked up what I was putting down before and with the knowledge I have, then we're at an impasse.

I'm now trying to figure out what you could possibly think I am from the remaining baddie roles.

I haven't made that clear?

Although, even if they did, I wouldn't tell you. You're trying to get me to out two civvies.

They don't.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I don't know SVS's role.

What do your roles have to do with allusions to tobacco products?

Llama and I made note of this on Day 0/1. We have changeable votes. I'm surprised more civs haven't used this to their advantage, including you two, assuming you are both civ.

Liar.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Dom wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Do you care if there is a lynch today or not?

But your little allusions to cigs did not go unnoticed by me, MR. You are baddie bad baddie.

And walk me through how point A leads you to conclusion B.

Speaking of A, I think I might vote for A Person.

This is intense as f*ck.

Why?

Your attempts to cause chaos in every lynch has not gone unnoticed. You/MP voting for your teammates last has not gone unnoticed. This switch to SVS, when you know her role, has not gone unnoticed.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Do you care if there is a lynch today or not?

Considering I think you're trying to stop the lynch of a baddie, yes, I do.
But your little allusions to cigs did not go unnoticed by me, MR. You are baddie bad baddie.

MR, your attempt to kill SVS is laughably thin.

What are you getting at, MR?

MR what would you like to discuss that hasn't been discussed?

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Dom wrote:But will BWT vote?

I would say, "Let's give him a reason to", but you guys haven't exactly been open to discussion, haha.

Who is "you guys" and you can't be serious????? There's been a lot of discussion today???

But will BWT vote?

Lizzy wrote:

Dom wrote: How did I read you? I seriously don't remember.

honestly, you and AP (and players that are similar to you) give me pause. I am always unsure how to read you all. I don't see a civvie intention, coming from you, though. I see you trying, actively, to lynch someone I very much trust.

You read me exactly like I wanted people to read me: as the ultimate civ, although that was a rather dangerous approach. Worked though.
... and I very much trusted JJJJjjj. Did that make him civ?

I just went back to AG to see what I thought of you. I actually was trying to get you and Pheonix out. I didn't know about the cult, but I felt that the two of you were no good. I didn't think you were a baddie, I thought something was up and you were recruited-- which you were.
If you don't believe me:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/postin ... 27&p=41199
SVS said so.
So, I think my read on you isn't as bad as you're trying to insinuate.
Furthermore, I don't think you had any reason to think JJ was civvie. I think you trusted him because you are his teammate. I have not had BTSC with SVS and I can tell you one thing-- I do trust her.

Lizzy wrote:

Dom wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:
Not entirely sure, I can see the case against Lizzy but I'd been leaning civ for her. In light of the JJ lynch she does look like she could be a Sister. I'm also becoming suspicious of MR based on the way he acted in the last lynch. I just don't get what he was trying to do but I feel like he was trying to save JJ without actually voting against him, if that makes sense.

One cvestion: have you ever seen me defend a teammate? It's ture that I've been bad in only two games coz that's just my luck, but has any of you seen me do that? SVS hosted me when I was bad, Dom was also playing, Bullz has been my teammate yadda yadda yadda

Lizzy, I don't remember who was any role in AG. I just know I was Chronos and Hinzelmann.

I was Ceres and the last baddie standing. Good read on me then too. Not really.

How did I read you? I seriously don't remember.

honestly, you and AP (and players that are similar to you) give me pause. I am always unsure how to read you all. I don't see a civvie intention, coming from you, though. I see you trying, actively, to lynch someone I very much trust.

Lizzy wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:
Not entirely sure, I can see the case against Lizzy but I'd been leaning civ for her. In light of the JJ lynch she does look like she could be a Sister. I'm also becoming suspicious of MR based on the way he acted in the last lynch. I just don't get what he was trying to do but I feel like he was trying to save JJ without actually voting against him, if that makes sense.

One cvestion: have you ever seen me defend a teammate? It's ture that I've been bad in only two games coz that's just my luck, but has any of you seen me do that? SVS hosted me when I was bad, Dom was also playing, Bullz has been my teammate yadda yadda yadda

Lizzy, I don't remember who was any role in AG. I just know I was Chronos and Hinzelmann.

nice drive by AP

Lizzy, if you are civvie (which you're not), you must eat 12 hats after this game and never think you can read SVS or myself ever again.



LINKI
Bullz-- I totally agree with you. I've been on SVS's team more than once, and that is NOT SVS behavior.
After Elo dropped that bomb, yes, I would imagine some of JJ's teammates would join the lynch effort. Not spearhead the lynch against him and almost die because of it.

Lizzy wrote:

Dom wrote:Why would SVS lead the lynch on her teammate?

Seriously?

.....yes?

Why would SVS lead the lynch on her teammate?

AP, I see you're lurking down there. Have any thoughts?

Lizzy wrote:

Dom wrote: Even if you haven't pieced together what is happening (if you are civv-- which you probably aren't), explain this to me: how is it possible that SVS is bad? I asked for you to earlier and you refuse to do so. I see no explanation for how SVS would lead lynches on both baddie teams and be bad.
But if you want to delude yourself, have fun.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 360#p48036
So who was the one not paying attention? It was only 2 pages back...

I saw this post.
I don't see how it makes SVS bad.
Explain what team you think SVS is on.

Also, Bullz, would you say you trust me?

Bullz, who are you voting for?
I would ask AP and BWT the same question, but I doubt they'll answer.

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote:I never understood any of the reasons why people were voting for SVS in the first place, though. I really can't articulate them. How did you?

For me it was mostly the way she seemed to be trying to distance herself from Sorsha's death. I hadn't seen much discussion of Sorsha being suspicious for one, and then SVS comes in saying how odd it is for baddies to kill baddies and how it used to be seen as almost rude on LP (which I'd never heard of - but you backed it up earlier on). I felt at the time like she was trying too hard to make it look like she had nothing to do with it. In light of your support for her comments and JJ's lynch it seems clearer that that wasn't the case. There's also another thing I noticed in hindsight that SVS tends to do as a baddie which she hasn't done here.

This makes me happy with my Lizzy vote. But I'm still eyeing you.

Lizzy wrote:

S~V~S wrote:let me put it to you like this, MR. If there are 3 baddies left, worst case scenario, 1 Staff, 2 Sisters, and an SK, that is 4. There are 7 of us.

If this is ture, I encourage people to vote for me because that'd end the game either today or tomorrow after the sisters finish the SK off.

there is no way in hell i am gonna vote for Dom

Of course not since you're on the same team. Luckily for Dom he's not a priority at the moment since he's not Bogs. I have to agree with MR that no civ in their right mind would chose to rezz you. However, just in case, for Dom - remember how we had the same beer options? I learnt nothing from them.

So if you want to lynch a baddie, and you are a civ, we need to get on the same page, capice?

You're not even trying anymore. :\

Are you even paying attention?
Even if you haven't pieced together what is happening (if you are civv-- which you probably aren't), explain this to me: how is it possible that SVS is bad? I asked for you to earlier and you refuse to do so. I see no explanation for how SVS would lead lynches on both baddie teams and be bad.
But if you want to delude yourself, have fun.

I guess what I mean to say is: can you please explain your SVS vote in a summarized fashion for me?

I never understood any of the reasons why people were voting for SVS in the first place, though. I really can't articulate them. How did you?