The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:
The night polls were meaningless

Dex wrote:Snowy, when you and Kate and I were in that last auxiliary chat group, and you asked who should get the +1 vote, and I suggested BWT, and you said "But Kate thinks he's civ", I felt truly bad. Part of me just wanted to say "But we're all three of us on the baddie team! Run! Run for your life!"

S~V~S wrote:She was the first NKed civvie.

Kate wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Kate said that she thought she knew my role. I wonder how? What gave me away?

I had a feeling you were on your own so you were on my short list of people to search for mcg or the bomb. On day two me, dex and jc went through each player and narrowed it down to you or bwt (after I had searched first jc and then boo). If it weren't bwt we were going for you next. We kept trying to see if you would agree with our lynch choices and when you did we just hoped we were right about you cuz we planned to bring you to the end.

S~V~S wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Even though it seems I technically won I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I was convinced by Kate who I trusted tha BWT was good rather than bad as I suspected so was totally duped. A do admit though I didn't care who died but i thought a Baddie end would be easier and quicker so was rooting for the civs. But the baddies were a larger body than i anticipated and every question i asked kate reasured me.

Well done Kate...I suppose...

Well, your win conditions as an Indy were "Alive at the End", you only had to survive. Had she found you rather than BWT, then YOU would have been the baddie. There were a lot of possibilities in this game, but Penny being recruited by the baddies was one I did not expect (they recruited way earlier than I thought they would, given that the power was "recruit or rezz"). I expected Penny to have found you or BWT by then.

thellama73 wrote:I was completely convinced Juliets was good, soc congratulations to her for pulling the wool over my eyes.

Man, I hate losing.

Russtifinko wrote:Well, I kind of hope we can get a lot of discussion today. Definitely seems like a good time to take a step back, regroup, and come up with some fresh ideas.

I know that both FH and llama have been mentioned by multiple people as possible suspicions, and though I've read both of them I'd be interested in seeing what other people's thoughts are before posting what I've got. Particularly I'd appreciate more detail on the anti-FH case.

On my readthrough I was having trouble drawing solid conclusions on Snowie, BWT, and He-Man as well, so if anyone has something to contribute on them that would be nice.

I'll be checking in later to post some of my thoughts.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Son of a.....I'm so sorry! RIP LT! I'm going to have to go back and re-evaluate my thoughts.

S~V~S wrote:If anyone alive were excluded, i would have excluded them

birdwithteeth11 wrote:You have to be kidding me....TWO people died?! I'm going to go back and read the roles and see if there's any way that could be possible.

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Thats kinda the point, I think~

Hilarious host is hilarious ~

Count your blessings....you are still alive. Anyone excluded from this poll?

Kate wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Thats kinda the point, I think~

Hilarious host is hilarious ~

The A Team wrote: Really? Because it seems you are easily led this game Snow Dog.
I guess you make fun of my name because you are jealous
Surely not because I haven't been helpful, I have only been around a couple of days and came up with more suspicions than you have all game.

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The A Team wrote: I noticed that Roxy, Reywas and LT all had llama as their biggest suspicion before they were NK'ed or lynched, coincidence, most likely not.

You really think I need to silence those who question me? Absurd. I am happy to answer their suspicions without having to resort to dirty tricks.

You have to admit it looks suspicious.

I would invite you to consider the possibility that it looks suspicious because someone wants it to look suspicious. I didn't vote for LT, and given the number of votes for her, I couldn't have orchestrated that kill if I had wanted to.

thellama73 wrote:

The A Team wrote: I noticed that Roxy, Reywas and LT all had llama as their biggest suspicion before they were NK'ed or lynched, coincidence, most likely not.

You really think I need to silence those who question me? Absurd. I am happy to answer their suspicions without having to resort to dirty tricks.

LittleTiger wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:Vote llama

...and when you see my role revealed, you can all go take a walk off a short plank! MacGuyver - sorry I couldn't do a better job...

You can also laugh at me for being an idiot with my role, since I am laughing too

All I can say is if I am wrong about you twice I am very sorry that I misread you.

I will forgive you since you do not know me.

But I will NOT FORGIVE Bug Girl!

Bug girl? Kate? Why bug girl?

No, silly... FH - she is an entomologist

LittleTiger wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:Vote llama

...and when you see my role revealed, you can all go take a walk off a short plank! MacGuyver - sorry I couldn't do a better job...

You can also laugh at me for being an idiot with my role, since I am laughing too

All I can say is if I am wrong about you twice I am very sorry that I misread you.

I will forgive you since you do not know me.

But I will NOT FORGIVE Bug Girl!

LittleTiger wrote:Vote llama

...and when you see my role revealed, you can all go take a walk off a short plank! MacGuyver - sorry I couldn't do a better job...

You can also laugh at me for being an idiot with my role, since I am laughing too

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Any possibilty that Llama's vote could be forced somehow?

No.

thellama73 wrote:

He-Man wrote:Lol llama why am I bad again?

I assume because S~V~S assigned you a baddie role at the start of the game, or you were recruited.

Or you didn't get enough love as a child.

Dex wrote:l o l I ' m n o t s o s u r e t h a t i s a n y e a s i e r t o r e a d a f t e r a l l !

Dex wrote:Y o u ' r e a g e n i u s l l a m a m a n !

Dex wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Got there in the end. You may be right, took some efort but I got the general gist if not the complete picture. If you have anything rteally important to say maybe you can signify somehow?

XEELNTCLE GUGSETOSIN oh sonwy utmt! Fi I ma optsing smoetihgn of tpoamrienc ofmr ehre on out I lwli gbnie het psto in lal spac!

He-Man wrote:Lol not sure how to defend against... NOTHING.

Good try though Boo

boo wrote:Alright, I'm not going to quote pull because I'm lazy, but I did a brief re-read of HeMan (I would suggest others do the same, there isn't that much of substance to worry about), and I'm starting to lean that way for my vote, for several reasons.

In the early game, I can see him having been indie, and not particularly worried about who got lynched (his vote for me because I voted LT, posts that made absolutely no sense in regards to my vote, etc).

I could see him having been recruited a few days ago now (pre-MP lynch). He did not vote for MP in that lynch, which could have been him not wanting to throw a teammate under the bus. I could be also see it being post-MP lynch, it is possible he was recruited the following night by vomp (of the 2, I'd say this is more likely). If we assume ticking bomb (the role I believe was recruited to that team, and I'm basing all this as HeMan being) got recruited as a result of Penny no longer searching (and we assume The A-Team was a result of Penny finding MacGyver), that would match up to HeMan joining that team just in time for it to die out, hence why he quite happily threw Vomp under the bus along, but prior to that had no votes that were part of a consensus that didn't suck.

In addition to He Man, I'm also thinking llama. I think llama has a pretty solid chance of being on the other baddie team, based on a whole bunch of things others have pointed out throughout the game.

Of the two, at this point I'd lean voting He Man, since I'd still like to get rid of an entire baddie team to prevent the possibility of double targeting NKs, and I think that he's our best candidate there. That being said, weakening the other team is good too, and leaving both teams alive at least gives us the chance that NKs may hit baddies and not civvies.

I wouldn't consider any of the other names I've brought up earlier to be off the table, but I think I'll be going with He Man or llama this time around.

And if either of you cares to respond to me, I'd be more interested in reasons why I should be voting for the other one than questions about why I'm considering the two of you (I've gotten a lot of those this game, and while it's fair to ask, it doesn't help me make decisions when the entirety of the post is just asking me how I came upon deciding a specific person may be bad, as almost everything I've done this game, including susing out both MP and Vomps came from a single thing earlier in the game in which MP messed up big time, probably without realizing it). I think that's a reasonable request as you both have looked at the other as suspicious at one point or another IIRC.

As for everyone else, thoughts? Not specifically on these two unless you have something to add to why they may be suspicious or not, and specifically I would like the thoughts of the A-Team on llama, and any information the A-Team can give us on the possibility that ticking bomb would have been recruited the same night period the A-Team came into the game.

Lastly, I'm curious if anyone has a read on Russ at all. I don't believe I mentioned him as someone I'm leaning civvie or baddie on earlier, and that's mostly because he's escaped my notice the entire game.

Snow Dog wrote:

Dex wrote:Ti ocrcus to em tath isht ncodiotin si a silence to opst rtepty cmuh gyantihn, sa I obtdu rvey mayn eopple lliw cutylaal etak het temi nad rtolueb ot fuirge uot hwat I'm acatlluy isnyga.

Let's see..

"It occurs to me that this .............is a silence to post pretty much anything, as I .........very many people will .........take the time and..........to figureb out what I'm actually saying.

Dex wrote:Ti ocrcus to em tath isht ncodiotin si a silence to opst rtepty cmuh gyantihn, sa I obtdu rvey mayn eopple lliw cutylaal etak het temi nad rtolueb ot fuirge uot hwat I'm acatlluy isnyga.

Dex wrote:Ewll. insec htis hppneaed ot Ery juts eoberf he was Dekn I heop ihst sdoen't beod ill rof em.

The A Team wrote:Poor Reywas RIP my friend -odd choice for the kill no one could understand the poor kid!

The A Team wrote:


So hope we are looking at llama, FH, LT2 and possibly HeMan.
What do we think about Snow Dog and Kate?

Thoughts?

Dex wrote:Ewll. insec htis hppneaed ot Ery juts eoberf he was Dekn I heop ihst sdoen't beod ill rof em.

Dex wrote:Oh, and RPIYGWI Rey. Ti's oto abd uoy ahd to psdne so cmuh time paskenig bbgiehisr.