The Syndicate

Totally didn’t expect to win!, woot!! Fantastic game, Epi.

I found it frustrating at times to think through roles, and to have others be totally unaware of game mechanics. There were several things I want ed to post about post death, but couldn’t. And still don’t get why Simon thought that the baddies didn’t have btsc from the beginning.

Well played, all.

The timing of Moto's sudden appearance in the thread at this moment is a bit Sus in and of itself. And, I'm still more convinced that AbSo is mafia than I am convinced about Moto. Interested to see his explanation.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:48 pm Can you explain your reds on Motobot?
@LoRab @Syn @Lime Coke

I have mixed feelings and I wish to talk more before Eod if possible.

So, here is what I said earlier.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 7:09 pm This makes me more convinced that one of the mini-Epis is bad. Just statistically, as well as probably not moto, because kiddos don’t lie well, and he posted he forgot about the game. I’ll take that at face value for the moment.

Between Abigail Sophia and Simon, my gut is AbSo (I shorten names. That’s why I’m LoRab. I do it to other names too. High five to SVS.) back to kids being not great at lying, I think her lack of posting—more so than last game, btw—and consistent voting indicates she has btsc so someone can remind and suggest who to vote for.

Simon could go either way. At this moment in time (which is admittedly migraine strewn and a bit drugged to dull the pain) I’m going to vote for AbSo. Totally open to changing my mind. But, between limited list and the above, it feels right.

[VOTE: AbSo] aubergine

Also, for the next round, I’m pretty sure Dunham and/or Sig are not Avenger aligned.

Currently, I have him penciled in for 1 of 2 possible civ roles because of the timing of things. But, I'm not totally convince he's good--because of the super low participation. Also, I wonder if (similar to AbSo, but without the 2 posts that look super polished) he is an extremely low poster because he doesn't know how to post when bad.

Ok, but they both aren’t out of the game. And it is fairly obvious that the poll is a result of vision.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:47 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:59 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:33 pm Hopefully one of Dunya or Sig were mafia... and I'm assuming with the amount of people here it means they were...so at this rate maybe SBPC and hope it's a win?

Didn’t they come back to life. Did I mis. Repeat unaliving
?

Both of them not being on the poll probably means they died?

I didn't see any text I was kinda assuming it.

Have you even read the roles?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:33 pm Hopefully one of Dunya or Sig were mafia... and I'm assuming with the amount of people here it means they were...so at this rate maybe SBPC and hope it's a win?

I’m guessing they are in 2 different categories. Which means at least 1 I believe is not civ.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:24 pm Like you at least existing helps me with you.

Syn I'm also willing to just have in my towns for doing the bare minimum.

here’s my I hate rainbow lists list because whatever.

Lime Coke
Syn
Michelle
LoRab
Simon
motobot
sig
Abigail Sophia
Dunya

Did I miss anyone? I was deleting from the postings list, so may have deleted an extra, or vice versa.

Based on suspicion and current thoughts. Not how sure I am.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:33 pm Hopefully one of Dunya or Sig were mafia... and I'm assuming with the amount of people here it means they were...so at this rate maybe SBPC and hope it's a win?

Didn’t they come back to life. Did I mis. Repeat unaliving
?

Brad, I think we are in a similar thought. We shouldn’t trust each other—and, we are among the more regularly active throughout the game players still living. (Day/night 4 I was unable to post because reasons I cannot say more about). Although you could be dangerous, I’m more willing to consider a no/barely poster before you. So you’re on the back burner, for me. I imagine I’m the same in your lists.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:01 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 2:56 pm I mean, I know it’s Mother’s Day, but are that many living players USian? Or is that a global holiday now?

But seriously, there are 4 living players with fewer posts than I. By more than 50 points at minimum. And I’m hardly a high poster these days.

I thought it was global but I might be wrong.

Annnnd yeah this game...idk at this rate I'm trying but the town flips and getting 0 legit mafia flips is draining.

Agreed. It’s frustrating. And I’ll admit that numbers wise, I am totally unsure about you. And don’t have you proverbially pencilled in with a roll.

I know it at least wasn’t a thing in Israel when I’ve lived/spent time there. No idea about Europe or other parts of world.

I mean, I know it’s Mother’s Day, but are that many living players USian? Or is that a global holiday now?

But seriously, there are 4 living players with fewer posts than I. By more than 50 points at minimum. And I’m hardly a high poster these days.

*pokes thread*

Simon wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 10:34 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?

When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

Actually, was this specific post a thing before people had BTSC with others? Because if so then the theory about AS taking orders from someone via BTSC wouldn't be so farfetched after all.

”

What do you mean when you say, “before people had btsc with others”?

Hey Simon, can you explain your vote? I may have missed it. @Simon

@Abigail Sophia can you please come post and answer some posts!

And h/t to vision. Good choice for this round. I think at least one of the others is bad. But smart to focus on the people actually playing.

RIPIYWG TSP. And pretty sure you were.

And crapweasel.

In checking to see what might be new in the roles, I reread Thor and realized that Thor is a different way that LC could have been lynched. I can’t be
Ieve I didn’t think of that the last lynch. Sorry falcon!

And thank you to Hulk for the extra info on hydra. Good strategy. Not sure why you gave us more info on Thor.

And now balancing my thinking differently on different roles. Specifically, we are fairly sure Doom is alive (unless there is something else entirely FUBAR going on). We know Loki was alive a couple of mafia days ago. No idea about Ultron. Overall, none of the active powers of hydra, as has been revealed, is something we’d see in the thread, other than the team kill. This means that only 1 player of hydra needs to be active.

This makes me more convinced that one of the mini-Epis is bad. Just statistically, as well as probably not moto, because kiddos don’t lie well, and he posted he forgot about the game. I’ll take that at face value for the moment.

Between Abigail Sophia and Simon, my gut is AbSo (I shorten names. That’s why I’m LoRab. I do it to other names too. High five to SVS.) back to kids being not great at lying, I think her lack of posting—more so than last game, btw—and consistent voting indicates she has btsc so someone can remind and suggest who to vote for.

Simon could go either way. At this moment in time (which is admittedly migraine strewn and a bit drugged to dull the pain) I’m going to vote for AbSo. Totally open to changing my mind. But, between limited list and the above, it feels right.

[VOTE: AbSo] aubergine

Also, for the next round, I’m pretty sure Dunham and/or Sig are not Avenger aligned.

Well, shoot.

And where are you jumping, TSP.

Also, glad you are feeling better.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:52 am Falcon seemed more than willing to not save himself knowing he wasn’t going to die

Agreed. I’m voting there for now. I may change.

I have a super busy afternoon and evening, so also making sure I don’t forget to vote.

[VOTE: fakcon] aubergine

Btw, hope you feel better. I had a stomach virus earlier this week and it totally sucked. Mostly better now.

And probabley yes on thanos. But also, would love other info on him, like other powers or win condition. I was kind of assuming hulk can’t choose the 1 piece of the description we get.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 4:00 pm And if there are restrictions no reason to target thanos who has a face up active power

What do you mean by "face up active power"?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:03 pm I don't actually think Deadpool was recruited his thing says he just takes someone else's wincon...which idk if he picks it himself?

"Why the Hell are You Even Here?
Your default win condition is Last Man Standing. Once each Night, you may adopt the current win condition of any player. You may change your allegiance each Night as long as you live."

The way I read this, he doesn't really pick himself. Rather, he could essentially search players to find out (and adopt) their win condition.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 2:58 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 2:40 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:56 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:19 pm As for who switched the lynch, I do think it looks bad for falcon, as well as not great for lime coke. Or, really, for anyone else talking about falcon, even if not voting there. Need to look back at who that was.

Also, can we discuss hulk…Why would he not have revealed thanos by now?

I mean...I was voting him so...

Right. But Hydra needed to make sure Falcon won in order for the plan to work. And we know LC and Leetic aren't bad (assuming Leetic didn't have a "you appear as a random civ if unalived"--which I doubt, because no one really argued with him when he had that role). So...

LC as Maf, Maf by choice it seems. How does that not make LC bad?

LC's final win condition we don't actually know, unless I missed it in the Lynch post. But, I would find it difficult to believe that LC chose to stay civ. Both because of his play and because of my knowledge of him as an overall player.

More importantly, if he chose mafia, then he wouldn't have had BTSC with the rest of the mafia, presumably, It sounds like he just adopts the win condition. So, he wouldn't have known the plan. And therefore, wouldn't have known the need to vote for a particular player for said plan to work. Also, they wouldn't knowingly and purposefully switch a link to someone on their side.

And it doesn't matter how LC looks. We know his role. It is not a role that is part of Hydra.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 pm You’re implying he was recruited

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 pm More reasonably there are certain conditions on the power which aren’t public

All of the above. I had all of those same thoughts.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:19 pm As for who switched the lynch, I do think it looks bad for falcon, as well as not great for lime coke. Or, really, for anyone else talking about falcon, even if not voting there. Need to look back at who that was.

Also, can we discuss hulk…Why would he not have revealed thanos by now?

these are the kind of questions which I actually thought but haven’t asked and I think there are semi-simple answers which involve “it’s a kid”

That is the easy solution. I wanted to put the question out there.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:56 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:19 pm As for who switched the lynch, I do think it looks bad for falcon, as well as not great for lime coke. Or, really, for anyone else talking about falcon, even if not voting there. Need to look back at who that was.

Also, can we discuss hulk…Why would he not have revealed thanos by now?

I mean...I was voting him so...

Right. But Hydra needed to make sure Falcon won in order for the plan to work. And we know LC and Leetic aren't bad (assuming Leetic didn't have a "you appear as a random civ if unalived"--which I doubt, because no one really argued with him when he had that role). So...

As for who switched the lynch, I do think it looks bad for falcon, as well as not great for lime coke. Or, really, for anyone else talking about falcon, even if not voting there. Need to look back at who that was.

Also, can we discuss hulk…Why would he not have revealed thanos by now?

Rip leetic. Again.

Mixed feelings about the Lynch result. Current hydra would be better. And, potential hydra is still better than a full civ. And, given Porsha's willingness to have her vote target killed, without having to really discuss it at all, seems to me to be an indication that she wouldn't be civ for long.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:57 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 8:24 pm So it's a good thing that we're probably not dealing with a cult. Some town members being able to voluntarily change their alignments is nonetheless concerning, however. Solid lynch, but I wouldn't give too much credit as the wolves were likely unaware if Porscha was on their side.

I do believe your role implies the likely possibility of some form of involuntary recruitment, don't you agree?

Can't answer for leetic. But I'll say I completely disagree. This role says a player can choose to change alignment. Leetic's says they can revert someone. With Porcha's flip (RIP if you would have remained good), we know that allignment can change, but at will. I don't think that implies involuntary recruitment. At all.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:47 pm You can't point to anything I've done as scummy and while your meta reason to scumread me is inarguably "valid" it isn't a strong reason and you know long con I respect you as a player and I think a good player like you could and should come up with a better reason to scumread specifically me here when there are other people perfectly warranting your attention equally or more than me

Worked this morning and then napped. Going to dinner shortly. I was ready to not vote prosha, but since she came back and posted a bunch, I think I’m convinced to vote her.

The above is an example of why—her whole defense here is that she didn’t do anything Wolfy, and therefore shouldn’t be suspected. Which doesn’t actually say that she is civ.

Also, her desire stated to be night killed, with the stated reason being so her role isn’t revealed makes no sense.

And her not knowing how to interact with children also doesn’t sit right. Not sure/don’t remember how old the Epi kids are—but there have been kids in the games since the beginning of this branch of mafia.

For that matter, I’m also good with a falcon vote tbh.

But need to vote so I can get ready for dinner. [VOTE: porsha] aubergine

leetic wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:55 pm Leetic's back eh? And SVS is dead?






WTF

Interesting question there...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:49 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:42 pm How did leetic come back to life, and was S~V~S an exchange, or an unrelated regular nightkill?

Sounds like the Maf are curious what happened to their nightkill

And now you're gonna throw shade at someone who's basically doing the same thing. Seriously? And it's not like any of your other recent contributions have been great, so [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Excellent catch.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:35 pm Someone remind me, has Syn done really anything to move the game forward?

Good number of posts, but nothing she (she? Or do I just think that because Lisa Simpson?) has said really stands out. Even after rereading. Also said earlier in the week that stuff was going on in life and would be quiet the rest of the week.

I’m not sure that is suspish in and of itself. But you asked.

Also, in Rereading:

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:51 pm for example, i now strongly believe leetic is town

Huh?! The “believe” here confuses me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:52 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 2:20 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:15 am I for one will not blindly trust leetic.
I probs won't vote for any of the kids today---ffs I am a YaYa how could I?
Plan on taking my time this round.

I'm with you on this. I'm giving limited trust, but not entire. Having seen rezzed players become evil zombies, I'm always wary. that said, I haven't seen anything specific from leetic to make me suspish, as of now.

His win con can't change

Oh, right. Duh.

After a busy morning of work and baking challah (which is almost done rising), I've now caught up. Thanks all for not posting just the right amount--not too quiet, and also not overwhelmingly a lot.

Now, let's put a baddie in a briefcase.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 1:38 pm The briefcase is a metaphor.

Can you imagine if that movie came out when Internet forums existed?

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:17 am
I would ask you to go for shots of tequila but that does mix well with Lime Coke. I think only vodka could work and that is not my jam.

A good gin would work nicely I think.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:15 am I for one will not blindly trust leetic.
I probs won't vote for any of the kids today---ffs I am a YaYa how could I?
Plan on taking my time this round.

I'm with you on this. I'm giving limited trust, but not entire. Having seen rezzed players become evil zombies, I'm always wary. that said, I haven't seen anything specific from leetic to make me suspish, as of now.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:13 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:03 am Hello Roxy we haven't exactly spoken yet this game.

That's really it I was thinking of a question but can't think of one that isn't massively generic or would help either of us in the game.

I have quoted you and you have responded....did you want to hold hands and sing Let It Be then skip into the woods? jk But sounds fun, right/

This is the most Roxy-est post that ever Roxy-ed

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 12:22 am I honestly assumed the game was about to be flipless since wilgy had zero info but that's clearly not the case so I dont know why he didnt flip but leetic did flip

Because leetic was a Lynch and Wilgy a night kill.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 12:21 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:47 pm It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

Seems like Deadpool isn't a threat until the Wolves are all dead. So Thanos or Deadpool, or both, have a win con that Town must defeat. Thanos is more likely, I'd say. He's probably recruiting a team of him plus two, to balance with Hydra?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 pm I suspect Thanos kills on odds

So Thanos probably killed Wilgy. So, Porscha is Thanos because she was incredibly insistent it wasn't Wolves.

I think it is a terrible and dangerous assumption to make that the indy roles don't have secret powers that didn't appear in the OP.

I think it can be assumed every role has more than 1 ability and the singular abilities have only been breadcrumbed and we only get full reveals upon that person's death

Fully agree.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 pm Well I don't think Vision's power is to add Fred, Yusuf, Joanna, Carl, Jason, and Xinghua to the poll.

Not what I meant. Rather, why does making names appear necessarily mean on the poll?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:55 pm Yeah, my mafia buddies and I also want to know what happens if vision takes the poll down to 4-6 players and ihow t interacts with Loki's power.

Why the assumption that making the poll smaller is what "names to appear" means?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:46 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:42 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:39 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:47 pm It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

Seems like Deadpool isn't a threat until the Wolves are all dead. So Thanos or Deadpool, or both, have a win con that Town must defeat. Thanos is more likely, I'd say. He's probably recruiting a team of him plus two, to balance with Hydra?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 pm I suspect Thanos kills on odds

So Thanos probably killed Wilgy. So, Porscha is Thanos because she was incredibly insistent it wasn't Wolves.

I think more likely that neither indy kills at this point. And that hydra kills nightly.

Also, you seem super obsessed with this recruiting idea--which we don't actually know is a thing.

You are in hyperbole mode right now.

Hyperbole is an excellent rhetorical device.

I don't trust it. I see it as someone trying to give their words more gravitas than they deserve, which strikes me as agenda-driven.

I do have an agenda. To figure out who the baddies, and likely Indies, are and get them out.

Also, RIPIYWG SVS.

And, welcome back Leetic!

Rezzurect means bring back 2 lyf

Sorry I voted for you!! And glad you're back.

I'm speculating that such power is part of someone's role. Curious if making SVS part of the description is saying that she razzed Leetic? Or if that was story telling flavor/details.

Also, do we really need to find the briefcase from a non-Marvel movie? Especially when we still don't know what's in that darn briefcase? Or is that also writing flavor? And what does even it mean to find the briefcase?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:39 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:47 pm It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

Seems like Deadpool isn't a threat until the Wolves are all dead. So Thanos or Deadpool, or both, have a win con that Town must defeat. Thanos is more likely, I'd say. He's probably recruiting a team of him plus two, to balance with Hydra?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 pm I suspect Thanos kills on odds

So Thanos probably killed Wilgy. So, Porscha is Thanos because she was incredibly insistent it wasn't Wolves.

I think more likely that neither indy kills at this point. And that hydra kills nightly.

Also, you seem super obsessed with this recruiting idea--which we don't actually know is a thing.

You are in hyperbole mode right now.

Hyperbole is an excellent rhetorical device.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:47 pm It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

Seems like Deadpool isn't a threat until the Wolves are all dead. So Thanos or Deadpool, or both, have a win con that Town must defeat. Thanos is more likely, I'd say. He's probably recruiting a team of him plus two, to balance with Hydra?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 pm I suspect Thanos kills on odds

So Thanos probably killed Wilgy. So, Porscha is Thanos because she was incredibly insistent it wasn't Wolves.

I think more likely that neither indy kills at this point. And that hydra kills nightly.

Also, you seem super obsessed with this recruiting idea--which we don't actually know is a thing.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:23 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:47 pm It seems the roles of Black Widow (tracker), Doctor Doom (rolecop), and Deadpool have been partially revealed in the OP. Deadpool seems like a hostile ITP, so I wouldn't trust them, though wolves are still a more pertinent threat.

Seems like Deadpool isn't a threat until the Wolves are all dead. So Thanos or Deadpool, or both, have a win con that Town must defeat. Thanos is more likely, I'd say. He's probably recruiting a team of him plus two, to balance with Hydra?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 pm I suspect Thanos kills on odds

So Thanos probably killed Wilgy. So, Porscha is Thanos because she was incredibly insistent it wasn't Wolves.

I think it is a terrible and dangerous assumption to make that the indy roles don't have secret powers that didn't appear in the OP.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:54 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:12 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:32 am @Roxy in response to what you asked me about wilgy

and tsp can read this too, if he's able

I simply have reasons to believe that there are a lot of power roles in play (this is a reason we should all believe, in fact,) and that while I think it's okay to assume a possible world where wilgy was the target of the nk from wolves, it should not be fully assumed as the truth because mechanics cannot be outed in thread

so what i'm trying to say is that we should be utilizing a balancing act in how much we believe a theory that cannot actually be proven true or false

if leetic had btsc with wilgy last night and believed he was town, then sure, that's something I am willing to assume is more likely than not (as I am proposing in how we should approach all things of this nature in the game) and I wasn't here for end of day cuz workscha so I took brad's conviction at more than face value since t hat's where I thought the conviction came from

though I initially had worries about him for raisins... w hich is still possible but I also kinda doubt wolf brad powerwolves out leetic here so idk lol maybe he's just town though again, like, I didn't love that he hasn't seemed to question my alignment at all whatsoever, but idk maybe he really took my masonry suggestion quite seriously lol

I agree, given that Leetic saw the role card and seemed convinced it was an NK I’m now leaning heavily in that direction

I think it was almost surely a night kill. It's just a matter if he was the intended target or not.

As I've said a few times, I think we can assume it likely was, with the caveat that it wasn't necessarily so.

Can we find out what happened?

I doubt it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 4:34 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 9:20 pm Ok so I thought he had info, the way he came in hard after Brad. This is how an info role who can’t dump comes across. And if I had an info role, Brad is who I would have checked.

I put this out several times during the day period. I expected the three people who had experience with this kind of thing to pick up what I was putting out; LC, LoRab and Roxy. Instead all three of them said I was suspish.

Woo Hoo. Or maybe Woo HOO.

Have a safe night folks.

And:

are you suggesting that lime coke and leetic had btsc yesterday? Because that seems unlikely based on their back and forth.

This result (and rip leetic) does indicate that Willy was civ. Which sucks. But as a small silver lining, we have some more info.

That's exactly what I thought

I doubt the player who was in BTSC with Leetic can claim, seems like we can only speculate but we can't receive confirmation. Which is frustrating and fascinating in the same time because nowadays games are full of claims flying all over the thread.

I agree. And I'm not a fan of claiming, as a general concept, so I'm liking that we can't!!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:12 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 1:32 am @Roxy in response to what you asked me about wilgy

and tsp can read this too, if he's able

I simply have reasons to believe that there are a lot of power roles in play (this is a reason we should all believe, in fact,) and that while I think it's okay to assume a possible world where wilgy was the target of the nk from wolves, it should not be fully assumed as the truth because mechanics cannot be outed in thread

so what i'm trying to say is that we should be utilizing a balancing act in how much we believe a theory that cannot actually be proven true or false

if leetic had btsc with wilgy last night and believed he was town, then sure, that's something I am willing to assume is more likely than not (as I am proposing in how we should approach all things of this nature in the game) and I wasn't here for end of day cuz workscha so I took brad's conviction at more than face value since t hat's where I thought the conviction came from

though I initially had worries about him for raisins... w hich is still possible but I also kinda doubt wolf brad powerwolves out leetic here so idk lol maybe he's just town though again, like, I didn't love that he hasn't seemed to question my alignment at all whatsoever, but idk maybe he really took my masonry suggestion quite seriously lol

I agree, given that Leetic saw the role card and seemed convinced it was an NK I’m now leaning heavily in that direction

I think it was almost surely a night kill. It's just a matter if he was the intended target or not.

As I've said a few times, I think we can assume it likely was, with the caveat that it wasn't necessarily so.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 9:20 pm Ok so I thought he had info, the way he came in hard after Brad. This is how an info role who can’t dump comes across. And if I had an info role, Brad is who I would have checked.

I put this out several times during the day period. I expected the three people who had experience with this kind of thing to pick up what I was putting out; LC, LoRab and Roxy. Instead all three of them said I was suspish.

Woo Hoo. Or maybe Woo HOO.

Have a safe night folks.

And:

are you suggesting that lime coke and leetic had btsc yesterday? Because that seems unlikely based on their back and forth.

This result (and rip leetic) does indicate that Willy was civ. Which sucks. But as a small silver lining, we have some more info.