The Syndicate

Elohcin wrote:Of course. I'll be going to bed very soon though. We lose an hour tonight....stupid U.S. and their daylight savings. So, I need to know what direction we are going in as a tribe.

I am guessing I am not allowed to copy and paste BTSC.

I've got ~30 minutes before I've got to go do a thing, so I'll hold off from swining my bat one way or the other. I don't want people to think "Oh, the King says this, so this is how it is"

Elohcin wrote:Sorry, INH....here you guys go.

I had BTSC with Boom Night 2. He lied to me saying he did not have BTSC with anyone else before me. He lied. He had BTSC with Opt. They had full game BTSC. Opt told me this NIght 2 in our BTSC. I trust Opt. She knew things about Bloom that he told me as well. Boom lied to me, so I voted for him over wilgy.

Right now, I have BTSC with Wilgy and Lorab. Lorab tried to be sneaky and ask me about Opt. I told her I really liked Opt. She seems great, trustworthy. Lorab said she thought she seemed great too and would try for BTSC with her next time. However, then she said later that she had BTSC with opt yesterday. Slip after an implied lie. She backpeddled a bit saying she wasn't trying to lie. She just didn't know if she wanted to share the info yet. SMH. And now, I find she is in BTSC this evening with chuck, but hasn't come back to talk to me. That's worrisome.

So what do you propose be done about this? I would love to hear what LoRab has to say in response before I make a final call personally.

What kind of King would I be if I let these accusations go unaddressed?

Eloh, the clock's a tickin. If you're going to trot out accusations of lying and anti-tribe behavior, I think we'd all appreciate (Myself included) if you could be more clear. If you can't, I have to ask why it is you bothered bringing that up.

These juicy BTSC revelations might affect the vote

@Elo if you've got the goods on the liars, spill them beans girl.

Elohcin wrote:I tried writing this and my internet went out for a sec. Trying again.

INH, I agree with you. I went into today all FOR THE TRIBE. In the past two nights of BTSC, I have had two of my BTSC partners lie to me. And that concerns me. I can't believe people are already starting to be dishonest. So...I am done with liars. I've been totally honest in BTSC so far. NO need to lie. at least night yet

I will not vote for you today, INH. I'm sorry if I came to wrong conclusions about you due to my bad memory and or insufficient observation of your activity.

Who apart from Boomslang lied to you and how did Boomslang and this other person lie to you?

DrWilgy wrote:DH, you want to vote for me today?

I haven't decided. I'm considering the input of the tribe and the discussions going on in the thread at the moment.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm worried that I missed the sound of the starter pistol that told everyone else it's now an alliance-based game of "who can we work with" where tribal lines are as useful as nipples on a breastplate. Meanwhile, I'm over here building a sandcastle with the phrase "MAMANA 4EVA," scrawled on the side, and pretending that people still care about challenge performance and camp life.

I mean, I know that's how the game will eventually go, but I thought tribal unity would be able to work for a little bit longer.

I'm all about that Tribal Unity.

Mossy

DharmaHelper wrote:
Elohcin wrote:ABout the poll. I am automatically on mustard. It says in the thread to vote again. But the poll says only one vote per option. So I cannot do both. Scotty help me out here.
Scotty changed the Day poll options to night poll options because the poll itself wouldn't change.

So you're on the spot you were for the day poll. You haven't voted yet for the night poll, you can change if you want.

Which is to say you seem stuck on Mustard unless someone switches with you.

Elohcin wrote:ABout the poll. I am automatically on mustard. It says in the thread to vote again. But the poll says only one vote per option. So I cannot do both. Scotty help me out here.

Scotty changed the Day poll options to night poll options because the poll itself wouldn't change.

So you're on the spot you were for the day poll. You haven't voted yet for the night poll, you can change if you want.

DrWilgy wrote:Hey DH, can I have your thoughts on me?

I like the hustle today, but I'm weighing that against the fact that I know you could have done better if you wanted to yesterday.

Far as I'm concerned Opt and Chuck are definitely nots.

Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:So then who are you keen to vote for Eloh? I'm up in the air myself
It's hard. But I think I am down for an INH vote at the moment. He's not been a very memorable player. But I want discussion b/c I want to keep this vote in the best interest of the tribe.

Really? Interesting. I think I'd need a bit more of a case to be made other than he's "not been memorable", But I'm happy to see you trying to think these things over.

So then who are you keen to vote for Eloh? I'm up in the air myself

Am I safe in assuming you left out Chuck because that's where you're leaning on your vote, Eloh?

Elohcin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Who all's sick? Me, DH, Golden, Wilgy, and Elo?

Wilgy and I both got fish for ourselves, so we're good. I think it's a given that DH, Golden, and Elo should get the extra food due to their stat decrease, but that's just my thoughts. Open to anyone else's input.
I can feed myself. I make delicious meals.

Who are we voting for today? I will not be voting for Opt or Lorab. I would rather not vote DH or Golden. I am talking with Wilgy in BTSC and he seems to have turned a leaf. What do you guys think?

linki? really? does anyone else thinks that? I would have to be all jumbled into new tribes now. And why would there be so many options to choose form if that were the case?

You'd "rather not" vote for me?

I'm just saying this so that "Drop Your Buffs" will be the next episode's title.

Jeff i swear to God if I hear you say "Drop your Buffs" I'm gonna lose it

Here's some intel on the other tribe's energy scores:

Challenge One:
MP - "easily" [x]
SVS "Light balls" (No loss of energy)
Quin "Last ball" [heavy] 2 Energy (Possibly the same boost as Opt had)
DF - Puzzle (Whiffed)
Epi/LC/Sawyer/Sorsha - Unclear what they spent (total loss of 2 or 4 energy)

Challenge Two: [-3 for all participants]
LC ("Strongest")
SVS
Sorsha
DF (Stupefied? Did he miss another Challenge?)
Sorsha
NotSawyer

Totals:
SVS -3
LC -5 or -6
Sorsha -5 or -6
DF -3
Sawyer -5 or -6

As long as you both agree I should get a fish

DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?
You don't need to put a bat to my head for that. It's easy that I will be voting LoRab tonight.

I'm not going to ask others to follow me in this vote, but I am still wishing to vote away antagonists. LoRab's concern was for the tribe, but the matter of how she handled asking me to read the thread was hostile. It actually motivated me to stop reading and do the opposite until Eloh asked, this I resumed my catch up and detail learning.

Simply put, that attitude toward one's own tribe does nothing but decrease motivation and hinder the team.

Linki - INH, I'm down for that unless someone states that thier food is lower than 5. I'll submit a PM now to give DH the fish unless otherwise noted by EoN.

Lorab, huh?

Maybe today won't be so boring after all.

Also before I go to bed:

Not gonna lie, 90% of my excitement for a merge is because it opens to door to like 50 more Negan Gifs.

I'm going to be spending at least some of tomorrow with my Mom and family doing a craft that I've been planning as a surprise for her all week so I will miss out on some of the discussion.

I do want to stress a few things tonight before I depart.

- Whatever we decide, we decide as a tribe
- No bullshit
- No matter how the vote shakes out, we move forward afterwards together.

Wilgy - Bat to your head, who should get the votes tonight?

Also, at least 2 of the people that fished today can rest tomorrow, and Golden and Eloh can fetch water. Problem = Solved.

As of this morning I was at 9/10 but I anticipate that dropping to at most 7/10 come the next challenge.

The folks that fished today, give the extra fish to three different people who will all fish tomorrow. and reciprocate.

I'm gonna be miffed if there's no challenge tomorrow to redeem us.

Who's it gonna be?

Godspeed and good luck fam.

insertnamehere wrote:I kind of feel like the one single dude at a wedding when every other player has two BTSC partners that I'm aware of, and I only have Speedchuck. Not that there's anything wrong with Speedchuck, but...

In the words of Three Dog Night, two can be as bad as one; it's the loneliest number since the number one.

Somebody should definitely hook my boy up.

Are we all locked in, including our picks?

Here's my strat

I'm gonna be pissed if Negan loses the "beat the shit out of somebody with a weapon" challenge.

I'm pumped for a swap/merge yo.

What kind of horse and pony show are they running over there if it's taking this long to fill out their roster.

LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:(confirming that it's me, eloh, and lorab for btsc tonight?)

What did I do last night? other than not discuss DH? We have 3 sickies and 2 of them need to rest. Unless someone would like to come with me I don't know if there's a better means of us discovering a way to be treated.

Perhaps we just need to drink a whole lot of water however?

linki - you sure Golden? I have no issues with you going.
I never said I wanted BTSC with you. Each of our BTSC is separate with a person. Eloh said she wanted it with you. That I am also having BTSC with Eloh is irrelevant.

And more than just the 3 of you are sick: Golden, INH, Elo, DH, and you all have food poisining. That means that 3 of us are healthy. 5 of you are sick.

According to Golden, it effects hunger, thirst, and energy--so we need to worry about both food and water. And, I don't think that all 5 of you can take a nap. I think that 2 of us is adequate for water--if you could go back to fishing, as previously discussed in the thread, that would be appreciated.

It would be helpful if you could read the thread.

You get a move set! And you get a move set! EVERYBODY GETS A MOVE SET!

LoRab wrote:Also, can someone tell me what order to do my moves in. I don't have time to think through the strategy of it.

Here are some good ideas:
Balance: High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
Balance 2: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block
Aggro 1: High, Low, Block, High, Block, Low, Block, Block
Aggro 2: High, High, Block, Low, Block, Low, Block, Block
Full Aggro: High, High, Low, Low, Block, Block, Block, Block
Reserve: Low, High, Block, High, Block, Block, Block, Low

Chuck went with Balance #1 and I went with Reserve. If you want to follow Golden's view that we should diversify, I'd pick an Aggro option.

Golden wrote:We renamed our tribe Manamana anyway

For those who don't know, in a Pacific sense the word 'mana' is sort of hard for me to translate into English but it's sort of a combination of prestige and influence. Someone who comes into a room and has the immediate respect of the room is said to have 'mana'. They are the people who can speak softy for one minute and their words carry more weight than everything else going on around it.

That's mana. Let's live up to it!

Golden wrote:btw - I'm competing jeff

People, you should complete your spot in the order and your order of attacks so that we can all easily see the progression?

My sleepy naptime boy, Jeff slotted us in order of when we signed up, which is why I delayed my signing up 'till like 5th which is my sweet spot.

Golden wrote:Cheers opt. I think two might be enough fishing for now. Although, actually, with your strength you might be a good fisher?

Should I slot in 7th for the challenge? I know that's the 'winner take all slot', but maybe we'll have it done before I have to compete?

Either that or maybe we want to put our strong players last? Not sure.

I think if you went last that would be fine.

@Jeff These are my moves: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block

Golden wrote:Maybe I should do the footbridge. It shouldn't take too much energy and if it's possible we could get 'treatment' there.

But I can't even understand the concept for how you 'treat' food poisoning... in the real world even.

I think it's just a matter of rest/hydration/good food intake. Which is why I'd like to get as much food and water for this phase.

DrWilgy wrote:Here's kinda what I'm thinking,

We are losing optimum ability to use the food we gain as long as we remain sick and something needs to be triggered to cure us. I think I should try to check something out as this is a creeping problem.

Golden, will you participate in the challenge now that you have been fishied?

linki- kay, I'll go if no one has any dire food issues.

I have dire issues with you going anywhere alone after last night.

After a bit of fiddling I have a few findings

- I don't think Blocking should be an opener
- I think Low is a good one to use near the end/last
- I'm not sure how effective it would be to pick a strategy that's designed to score 20pts as fast as possible versus just trying to put points on the board.

I'm gonna knuckle up and see if I can't math out some of the better tactics. If I come up dry I'll just drop it but if anything interesting develops I'll post my findings here.

I think Chuck and I came up with some good options to pick from, but I did want to highlight some good stuff from Wilgy here.

DrWilgy wrote:I got food poisoning... How unlucky :^(

@Eloh, of course I'm smart, what exactly do you disagree with me on? that I'm unlucky ;^)

DharmaHelper wrote:
I'm gonna need everyone on the same page here. Wilgy barely escaped tribal after some very uncool shenanigans. I'm a benevolent King, but not one that suffers many insults or fools. Wilgy, as part of the tribe you're part of what gives us the win or the loss, so I'm willing to do a few things if you are.

The Anti-Wigly rules are temporarily lifted n the following circumstances:

Wilgy participates in challenges to the best of his ability
Wilgy provides food, fire, and shelter to the best of his ability
Wilgy is honest and forthright towards the tribe

If you break any of those rules, or I smell a whiff of you might possibly break one of them, or you misread one of them, or you so much as think sideways, and it's your ass.
Kay :^)

I will fight in spite of my illness. I think I can pull this off.

speedchuck wrote:Balance: High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
Balance 2: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block
I think it's also important to consider the defensive inverse orders i.e.
Block, Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low.

In regards to this challenge I think we need to focus on our meta reads of our opponents. i.e. If you were against me would you expect me to be aggressive or defensive? If I saw I was facing myself I'd block 2, attack, block 1, attack, block 1, use remaining attacks.

I think between the three of us we've got the core pillars of the challenge figured out. If you're fighting, you should consider A) What'll get you points B) What'll keep you in the fight C) Your matchup's meta.

Strike a good balance with those three, and we should be in the clear.

DrWilgy wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:I also think Golden should sit.

I know that we are all sick, but if we are all afflicted in the same way I think Golden's energy is the most in danger after the double challenge. Eloh would you be willing to do this?

@DH, sure but why?
Because I asked nicely.
I wouldn't classify that as nicely, but okie dokie artichokey.

It was nicer than the alternative

DrWilgy wrote:I also think Golden should sit.

I know that we are all sick, but if we are all afflicted in the same way I think Golden's energy is the most in danger after the double challenge. Eloh would you be willing to do this?

@DH, sure but why?

Because I asked nicely.

Wilgy you're gonna want to move off the palm tree and pick fish or water.

Scotty wrote:It would appear 1 of Golden or Elo is sitting today.

I'd prefer to have your action order in by 1 hour before EoD, por favor

Golden had to pull double duty on the first challenge, so if it were up to me, he'd sit. But Eloh also had to do a lot of hooping in the first challenge so if she's not feeling confident I'd say she has a good case as to why she should sit as well.

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