The Syndicate

On the one hand, solid play to get rid of SVS. On the other hand, you gotta figure Golden's a major target now. A poor strategy to be the only big play maker in the game left. You have to have cover if you want people to vote your way. Who will Golden be able to pitch as a better vote than himself?

Ricochet wrote:DH, if you were in the final jury, who would you, at the moment, spew fire against and who would you go "all in all, you have the king's respect", at the Final Tribal Council?

Tough call.

Eloh and Sorsha seem to me from an outside perspective to be the weakest players in terms of alliances/moves made, so I'd hammer at them. Golden/Quin might be my top two objectively.

But Opt/Lorab/Golden definitely deserve props for the SVS blindside. She was the lynchpin I'd think in keeping Quin and Sorsha and any Atamai holdouts/possible threats to Opt/Golden/Lorab together.

I think Golden's success depends entirely on whether he has done a good enough job in hooking Eloh into his fold.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have peeked in on the game sporadically and I still have no idea what's going on.

I've never watched the show though which might explain why.

Whats going on is I got robbed

See that's why they need people like me. The Negan King schtick was designed to build up loyalty and community.

TBH I doubt Lorab/Opt/Golden will flip on each other. I could be wrong, but at this stage you have to look at things as hard numbers, and the hard numbers say ride it out with your crew.

DharmaHelper wrote:UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Power play!

Funny to hear Golden say that my blindside played a part in SVS's downfall. Golden repeatedly told me that we could trust SVS, and SVS turned her back on me the moment she got the chance to.

I wonder how differently things would have played out if she'd played along. I had no qualms about bringing her into the fold, and honestly LoRabs outbursts were weighing on me so if it came to it I would have/could have swapped LoRab for SVS. Though then again, if I were still in the thread after SVS's outburst that would have done her in IMO.

UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Power play!

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Wait

Spoiler: show
Quin's power is he can find idols?

Spoiler: show
Yes. And it seems everyone seems to know this fact from BTSC Daaaaaays ago, and yet don't seem to find that threatening

On top of that, because Epi is dead, he can secretly select another option in the day poll.

People also are aware of that, and are seemingly willing to have a blind eye.

Hell, Golden found out Night 6 about the idol thing and shared with his alliance. And still, who do they vote out? speedchuck. I don't get it, man. That power can be gross. It's not like Quin is being too secretive about it either.

I want that.

Wait

Spoiler: show

My money's on a LoRab vote now. RIP.

Critical error on LoRab's part to go after Sorsha and not defend better against SVS

This tribal is fire

juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:The stage is now set for a big move. I'm hoping my OG Mamana amigos recognize the threat SV S poses, and SVS's spat with LoRab does her in.
I would hate to see that but it is what it is.

I just don't see how anyone could let that spree of posts from SVS slide. LoRab was incredibly paranoid in my interactions with her. Any whiff of anyone going at her and she was on that shit like mad.

SVS is too good a player to keep in the game for too long, and this is just as good an excuse as any to convince people to get her out.

Scotty wrote:Y'all ready for this?
Spoiler: show
With DF gone, Elo now feels safe to use her poisoning power. She has poisoned Golden and LoRab with no clear way of them getting better.

Golden and LoRab are talking about SVS being too volatile and seriously considering voting her out next.

Cheeky.

The stage is now set for a big move. I'm hoping my OG Mamana amigos recognize the threat SV S poses, and SVS's spat with LoRab does her in.

Trust me I woulda run roughshod on the rest of these guys if I wanted to. Mamana would have been up 7-5, I would have had those Mamana wrapped around my finger. :P

What a perfect time for there to be no backroom dealings. Who will stand up to this pressure?

DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:DH, if you knew Quin had the immunity idol why didn't you bring that up in the thread to talk about? It could have kept you from getting voted off.
Didn't really feel like it at the time :P

Part of me felt like there was a chance he wouldn't play it, part of me just didn't care one way or the other. I had the fun I wanted to have. Would have been boring steamrolling everyone post-merge

juliets wrote:DH, if you knew Quin had the immunity idol why didn't you bring that up in the thread to talk about? It could have kept you from getting voted off.

Didn't really feel like it at the time :P

Delicious Drama in the main thread. Damn I wish I was still playing

DharmaHelper wrote:This blow up is not a good look for SVS, unless it's somehow staged. LoRab's got experience not reacting well to being challenged (See: Mamana tribe)

Bold strategy to leak her own BTSC and prove she can't be trusted to keep that shit secret, lets see how that plays out.

This blow up is not a good look for SVS, unless it's somehow staged. LoRab's got experience not reacting well to being challenged (See: Mamana tribe)

"Lorab told me something in BTSC I'd rather not repeat"

*Repeats everything she was told in BTSC by a certain person*

SVS kicking up shit against LoRab might backfire

Edit:

PLEASE LET IT BACKFIRE COME ON GOLDEN/LORAB HAS NEGAN KING TAUGHT YOU NOTHING

My strategy for asking questions would have been to ask a seemingly hostile question about a persons strategy/gameplay to see if they could defend it effectively.

S~V~S wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I know that's what it said, just didn't know if someone else was already sick somehow.
I am sorry, I misunderstood.

If someone else is sick, they have not said. I am just concerned since we apparently still can get sick. Killing off the doctor was a mistake. He was no danger to anyone, and the only benefit to his death was a second food source. We can fish for ourselves, but I don't believe we can cure ourselves.

It is my feeling that LoRab wants to control access to food via her alliance to you. She knows you will not turn on her becasue that is not really part of your character. In addition to maneuvering it so that you got your food production power by the elimination of Faraday, she came out of the gate after the night post swinging at Sorsha, the other source of food besides fishing ourselves. Without a doctor, and in control of the other food source, she would sort of have us all by the shorts.

Perhaps she even did think we could not get sick, but she was wrong and now we are all in potential danger.

RIP All girls alliance

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:15 minutes till we find out who came to play and who came to give the game away.
Well...speed tried to form a coalition, but no one was seemingly biting.

Damn shame. But it did flush out Golden's idol.

Let's see if anyone can make anything of that

Considering Quin's still around after he burned an idol getting me out I doubt it.

Speedchuck and DF, two easy and foolish picks. Nobody's got their eyes on the prize, Probst.

15 minutes till we find out who came to play and who came to give the game away.

Lorab's paranoia struck me when we had BTSC. She was on my watch list.

Ricochet wrote:Sorsha is going to win this and people won't even see it coming.

I mean if ever there was a time to make a move now would be it.

See, a two-person tribal is where having numbers on your side would matter. Voting INH out may bite some people in the butt here.

Well, I'm glad I didn't have to play this challenge. Don't need another excuse for people to hate me :P

To be honest if anyone goes up against any of the bigger name players/ power players, they're going to lose. It'll be interesting to see if/when that power structure gets toppled.

juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.
I don't necessarily agree with that. That wasn't how it turned out when we played Survivor on Rev.
On Rev it was mafia vs. Civs.
Yes but neither of them had a lot of scalps on their record.

What I meant was the people voting had the benefit of trying to pick either mafia or civ. Here, your only benefit is what you did to get to the end.

juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.
I don't necessarily agree with that. That wasn't how it turned out when we played Survivor on Rev.

On Rev it was mafia vs. Civs.

If you want Jury votes you gotta have scalps on your record. Plural. You gotta get bloody and fast.

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Upon some self reflection and re-reading old similar games I think my problem is I'm too loyal in these games. So my next iteration will probably involve at the very least a more careful approach.
INH was feeling pretty trusting too- he told me he was about to make a big move, but fell short with that blindside.

Trust no one

Speaking of big moves, I hope nobody thinks INH's blindside was a big move. No offense to the guy but he wasn't exactly in a power position to begin with. Taking out someone like Golden or SVS would be a power play.

Upon some self reflection and re-reading old similar games I think my problem is I'm too loyal in these games. So my next iteration will probably involve at the very least a more careful approach.

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:You'd be amazed how much people will let you get away with, if you do it with style and confidence and swagger. My Negan play should have got me out Day 1, tbh.

So if the guys running the show do so from a position of strength, that perception will become in everyone else's mind, a reality. There will be no point in making a move because there will be no move to make.

It's one of my favorite techniques in mafia and in games like this. You don't have to convince anyone of anything, you just have to let them convince themselves. If they perceive that the only available move is the move you want them to make, you win every time.
Confidence kills. It ain't about what you know, or what you can do, or what you have. It's about what people think you know, what people think you can do, what people think you have.

People are much more afraid of the Boogeyman than they are of anything real.
It's a shame you didn't make Jury, man. This is grade A stuff

I'm electric with anticipation for the next game like this.

DharmaHelper wrote:You'd be amazed how much people will let you get away with, if you do it with style and confidence and swagger. My Negan play should have got me out Day 1, tbh.

So if the guys running the show do so from a position of strength, that perception will become in everyone else's mind, a reality. There will be no point in making a move because there will be no move to make.

It's one of my favorite techniques in mafia and in games like this. You don't have to convince anyone of anything, you just have to let them convince themselves. If they perceive that the only available move is the move you want them to make, you win every time.

Confidence kills. It ain't about what you know, or what you can do, or what you have. It's about what people think you know, what people think you can do, what people think you have.

People are much more afraid of the Boogeyman than they are of anything real.

You'd be amazed how much people will let you get away with, if you do it with style and confidence and swagger. My Negan play should have got me out Day 1, tbh.

So if the guys running the show do so from a position of strength, that perception will become in everyone else's mind, a reality. There will be no point in making a move because there will be no move to make.

It's one of my favorite techniques in mafia and in games like this. You don't have to convince anyone of anything, you just have to let them convince themselves. If they perceive that the only available move is the move you want them to make, you win every time.

if it were me I'd be thinking about who has commitments to whom. You don't want to be in a final five, final four situation with people who have clear cut ties to people who aren't you. Numbers are everything.

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:He told me his role, and I never told a soul. I did warn him that coming clean to people would be the better strategy.
Well Quin flat out told Opt that he has the ability to secretly select another day poll option.

We'll see how that goes for him.

Oh, BTSC update- SVS, golden, Quin and Opt have a final 4 deal.
Opt, golden and LoRab also have a final 3 deal.

someone is on the outs

My money is on LoRab. But I really want all Mamana final 3.

He told me his role, and I never told a soul. I did warn him that coming clean to people would be the better strategy.

On the one hand, poor decision to get rid of INH and give Atamai holdouts a foothold into the game. On the other, he's a shady S.O.B and the core shot callers probably figured they could cut him and not lose too much momentum.

DF claiming that alliances are "Breaking down" is an obvious attempt to save Atamai from being on the back foot.

I had a dream Opt had an idol, got voted out because she didn't use it.

Ew Epi is in the jury

Now it's Ponder-gross-a

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:My strategy would have been to submit all the easy words and shoot for a game winning tough one.
You would have won, no doubt.

Easy words = easy points blocked.

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