The Syndicate

Snow Dog and llama - the main reason the civ's lost is b/c they were outnumbered.

Congrats on your win Dex, Juliets, Kate, Teeth and Snow Dog.

Juliets - you are an awesome player never feel bad b/c you played a great game. Lying is part of mafia not your rl and don't worry most people totes understand that <3

With all the recruiting I now see why SVS made The A Team. In no way could I help, I had a bad feeling there were recruits but I was too late to warn as I was dead quickly and brought in as The A Team after the fact. I really did try to help but when I had my (1) time bts round table I felt that there was at least one baddie involved so I gave some true and a lot of false info just in case. Funny though I would have told Juliets all my secrets had she asked lolololol

Ofc lynching civ after civ did not help either

Really fun and cheesy game SVS thanks for Hosting <3

S~V~S wrote:

<3 it! Thanks SVS!

Not real sure about Dex tbh. I just thought it only fair to read his theory and see if I agree or not. I am on the fence tbh.

Yah Snow Dog and Name both seem likely bad. Their behavior has not helped them in any way the tone of Snow Dogs posts feels so different than the MOTU game same can be said about llama - his posts have a totes different tone to them.

Sockglove- I think you held in a different standard bc you have always been the way you are and say Porcu for example is held differently bc you both play differently. Yah sometimes I agree players like rab, HeMan, etc can sometimes slide by with iffy thread behavior but you or even I could not get away with it. I guess we should have started playing mafia with a wonky-jeebie style then we would not be held to the standard we are.

I am not saying this is how everyone feels it is just my take on the situation you faced yesterday.

Also - mmm interesting theory Pickle Dex I need to give it thought before I agree or disagree.

Also - Rey - good thoughts about Snow Dog most of which I totes agree with.

HeMan - I spoke in a post to Socking about you. I was hoping you would read it and respond to it

Teeth - No I do not think that if you have teammates they will contact you if you haven't been in the thread for 4 days. So that to me is a non argument.

Sockkitty - you asked about Heman and Vomps.
HeMan has made some critical mistakes with facts in regard to his votes D1 and D2. He was drunk D1 vote time but what about D2? Idk I always watch HeMan he puts on a spectacular show (making jokes, creating chaos, making me giggle etc) normally when playing this game not so much.

Vomps - I haven't played with in awhile and you are right he has his own style of playing. He has not really offered up any of his own thoughts so tbh I am not sure one way or the other about him.

Still eyeing Snow Dog, llama, Teeth and a few others to be quite frank.

Also I *voted twine* when camping I have used twine more than any object up there whether this means anything - lol - your guess is as good as mine.

Well at least I was not lynched. Actually for day 1 this was probs a good result. I know it seemed to cement some things for me and rethink others.

And I am sorry if you were upset at me Sock b/c of any post I made you know you are one of my favorite people to mafia with please do not change anything about you <3

So maybe no one was lynched but I do think with the discussion we have a lot more to work with. Like Juliets I am tired.

Kk this is NOT me giving up it is me telling you that I won't be around for the rest of the lynch. I hope others will not follow twisted logic and vote me. Remember these points:

MP said he hates random votes yet he random'ed his Day 1
MP lead the lynch on LT with weak reasoning.
MP said we have not played together recently yet we have.
MP said he my opinion on random voting does not make sense just becuase it is a different view and different way than he plays.

Tbh the more I think about his raling against my random voting stance then random votes himself just makes zero sense to me. He claims he is totes against it but does it anyway - idk it just feels like a huge double standard he is holding me to.

I am following my gut on this vote today. Irregardless of who believes me or not I am civ - one other civ will be quite sad when I die b/c it will be loss to them - I think Sock has been purposely misleading in his suspicion of me b/c if you played AHS on HV you would know that he CAN read my game quite well and even explains why and how. He is being misleadinvg b/c I am civ this game and he cannot be or he would not be using the twisted logic against me knowing I will question it until I die if I am civ.
Which I am. And it will be proven then every true civ will know where to begin their search.

*votes MP*

Except I don't think you are civ this game.

Also with 2 important civ roles down it will be very hard for the civ's to win. You all should seriouslyy consider that I am not aggressive I just like the truth. Too bad you are all like little yappy dogs following a bigger yappy dog to lynch civ after civ.

Boo I will either vote MP or Snow Dog or Llama. I am clouded a bit by the rush of these two voters. They seem almost waiting for the slightest thing to pounce.

Kate thanks for your response.

And it is not IF it is WHEN I flip civvie

You should vote for yourself next since you so obv bad hahahaha

You are so bad this game lol

We will see llama after you lynch me everyone will want you and MP gone!

Maybe you al should remember what llama has said he was first to bring me up for suspicion and now he is helping push my lynch. I obv am making someone nervous lol

Well then lynch me and get on with it then maybe players will realize what I am saying could be worth looking into.

My talk about randomization does not make sense to you even though you random'ed a vote yourself betwixt players hahaha funny very funny. What only your opinion makes sense? Thats rich I thought everyone was entitled to play their own way. Your focus remaining on this subject is quite noteworthy imo.

I am not throwing names out everything I have said about my suspicions are thread based anyone can see the same things I have seen.

We also were not talking about a year and half's worth of games - you sadi RECENT - hence my calling you out on the lie. You even said in HV how well you can read me. So now you can't. You can't b/c you are trying to lynch an important civ and that does not go along with what you already said.

Keep up contridicting yourself and once I am lynched and proved right you will be next unless these civs are as foolish as those on the HV game and they keep you around to win for the baddies.


Linky nice latch on Snow Dog with NONE of your own suspicions or thoughts you vote me. Haha meet Baddie # 2.

I literally hope you guys don't get your way and the civs lose my role - one will feel it more strongly than the rest.

Linky again haha you get your wish MP AND i hope to goodness that after I am lynched you will be next since chewing gum is dead and cannot bring me back.

The linky is to HeMan (Dex) not Pickle Dex

MP - you keep me on your list yet you don't indentify what it is that makes you think I am bad. Ofc you are wrong in any of your assumptions.

The 2 I am looking at is Teeth - this game he said he would catch up and post thoughts yet has failed to provide any thoughts. I have seen him in the thread since but he still has not posted.

And Kate - b/c the tone of her posts feels off. Plus she think Name did not send in a PM so there was no NK. Which as we all know that other members of a baddie team can send in the night actions all on one PM. I believe SVS uses this rule so I wonder why Kate thinks this way.

Also - you Sockfacey- b/c your vote for Auger plus your totes weak reasoning for lynching LT on her bday, your outright lie that we have not played recently together.

Linky - Dex - you do realize Boo said he would vote the no show Teeth if nothing else came up. Then you and Kate voted for Boo and he hadn't even voted then he voted LT saying he voted to protect himself from a lynch.

MP wrote: I'm feeling the same way on all three of those players. I would say this seems to be relatively normal behavior from Rox, so while it doesn't make sense to me, she's not necessarily really pinging me as BADDIE or anything. I haven't played with her in a while now though. I'll read through posts myself once I have some more time and see if I can't figure anything out. I do think there's one baddie to be found in the LT bandwagon, perhaps, just not sure who it is.

Sockman- You say you haven't played with me in awhile - would you actually consider this statement to be true? B/c to me it is a flat out lie. We played the HV game then Epi's game and now this one. Thats 2. 1 games recently. In the HV game you went so far as to say what my normal game behavior was. So hmmm

As for the NP not saying who was targeted I actually agree with - wait for it - llama - I think Swiss gave the power to Duct the power to prevent the NK from going through. I thought that when I originally read it and I still think after re-reading it twice.

As to who I am looking for the lynch I haven't settled betwixt the 2 I have in mind.

Idc if you never understand my logic about Auger voters tbs

I also am feeling slightly sad that people think I am agressive.

I am sorry I disagreed with your logic about Augers/random voting/weak reasoning. I was just having a bit og fun with the random debate. I will no longer look for fun in this game.

I will no longer be "agressive". I will place my votes and give a reason and that will be all.

If I offended anyone with my so called "agressiveness" I apologize.

ok then.

Its funny the two people LT said to look at (Sock and llama) both voted Auger as well. But tbh the votes for LT all kind of stand out.

Here yah go llama

Roxy wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I have to leave in a bit, so I am going to go ahead and vote. I hate to lynch anyone, because I am not confident about anyone being a baddie yet, but decisions have to be made!

I believe LT about mixing up the post times, but the randomization doesn't sit well with me. I agree with Kate that it seems like something a baddie would be more likely to do than a civvie. I don't trust boo, and I would probably be voting Roxy if she were in the poll based on general attitude.

It is therefore with a heavy heart that I vote LT.

What do you mean "general attitude"?

Whelp gotta vote and I random'ed betwixt those I said I would and got Dex. Sorry Pickle but it is what it is. I do however <3 pickles in general

I will be looking over the voters for LT for Day 2 lynch and if any voted for Auger they will be my first choice for a lynch candidate.

I believe Snow Dog voted for Auger as well as tacking on a vote for LT. I agree with Rey it was totes opportunistic.

As for Boo I didn't get the initial suspicion of him - all he did was say that he would vote BWT for a no show if nothing else transpired yet he received voted from Kate and HeMan before he even had placed his vote.

Name - plays his own way I agree but his reasoning is odd to say the least I would be willing to look there as well.

Hope the llama answers my question from yesterday.

Also juleits he did not use them per se on the show but they did help keep his mullet in the finest of forms at all times. I am not saying he didn't use them on the show at all he may have I am thinking though that this poll is all about the hair.

Wow! RIP LT I second Juliets in welcoming you to the club <3

I am going with hairspray he will need a ton of it in this wind.

He-Man wrote:I'm voting boo too, it's low voting someone on their birthday!

Boo

You do realize Boo has not even voted yet

Dex wrote:I think I'll randomize among weak reasons.

I know I just voted you but I have to say this made me lmao!

thellama73 wrote:I have to leave in a bit, so I am going to go ahead and vote. I hate to lynch anyone, because I am not confident about anyone being a baddie yet, but decisions have to be made!

I believe LT about mixing up the post times, but the randomization doesn't sit well with me. I agree with Kate that it seems like something a baddie would be more likely to do than a civvie. I don't trust boo, and I would probably be voting Roxy if she were in the poll based on general attitude.

It is therefore with a heavy heart that I vote LT.

What do you mean "general attitude"?

Whelp gotta vote and I random'ed betwixt those I said I would and got Dex. Sorry Pickle but it is what it is. I do however <3 pickles in general

Lol hostile. At least I am not on the poll - for good reasoning tbs!

I deffo am not hostile I just love a good debate random vs non-random we have had this debate for as long as I have played. Thats like saying you were hostile b/c you disagreed with me hahaha

Nice MP real nice. Just b/c I bust you a little about randomizing vs weak reasoning I am on your list haha funny!

I stand by what I have said. I did not have info on the poll I just used common sense - something Macguyver does often

Nope you did not deserve to be lynched but as a player who does give reasons for his vote and rales against randomizing when you voted with little to no reasoning it stands out. Like me during Sesame Street mafia trying to get rey lynched with reasons stuck out b/c I don't usually go all out on Day 1 to find a reason. Understand?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Weak reasoning is used by baddies as well to give them cover for their baddie votes.

How? I get called out for weak reasoning on Day 1 votes all the time. No one ever calls out randomizers (except for me, it seems) and seriously thinks they are baddie because they randomize.

Look at Futurama, where I was civvie. I nearly was lynched on Day 1 because I was a civvie, had to vote early, and actually based my vote on something, a very weak reasoning (and in my haste, I didn't elaborate upon it, but it was very weak either way), and people jumped on me because of it.

If I was DP and instead it was normal for me to randomize every Day 1, then I could be a baddie DP, randomize on Day 1 with no consequences, and then I wouldn't have to explain my vote.

Your argument just doesn't make sense to me.

Yep you were lynched with weak reasoning for your weak reasoning.
But I do stand by when I say as many civs have been lynched Day 1 with little and/or weak reasoning as with random'ing. I hate that people pick on randomizer'ers when I am a random voter a lot of the time. Sometimes the reasons people find to vote for people on day 1 are quite funny imho. Remember when I was lynched by BLL b/c of a smiley I used and was civ. Hahahahaha good times, good memories.

Weak reasoning is used by baddies as well to give them cover for their baddie votes.

Yep it is my reasoning Socko and no I did not info on the Day 0 poll.

Although I bet I can find as many games where people used really weak reasoning and lynched a civ Day 1 as when people random'ed with the same results.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:I am trying to rile you up Socky

I totes understand what you are saying I just like busting you out

So yah I will be randomizing betwixt those who voted for auger or fishing rod.

Lol, okay then, I get that. Why those two, again?

I wrote: Llama - yes I understand their is more to a ship besides the hull. But like the fishing rod (a paper clip can serve as a hook) the auger can be replaced by the swiss knife to make holes. So maybe not today will this poll matter but in a couple of days yes I would say this poll matters. Imo I will most likely vote for someone who voted for the auger or maybe even the fishing rod.

I am trying to rile you up Socky

I totes understand what you are saying I just like busting you out

So yah I will be randomizing betwixt those who voted for auger or fishing rod.

Sockboy- you didn't say all polls I did but it seemed you were trying to lump this poll to another game's poll in similarity when we both know that is very unlikely.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Kate wrote:I was going to agree that not much could be determined from the day 0 poll, however, it appears some people got results from it. I did not.

Did the people who voted for the tool that won, all get a prize?

I didn't get anything nor did I have any idea what any of the options did.

Rox, this response works for what you asked me as well. Honestly, I was surprised to see people seemed to benefit from the poll directly (like Rox is gone from the poll), I figured it might be more like an MOTU type of poll.

I am quite surprised honestly that you would think all poll would be alike or similar to MOTU mafia - when in almost every game I play the polls do something different. In games I make I know no two polls are ever the same game to game. Mostly polls I have seen do directly benefit the player or players who vote the winning option.

Linky llama lol

thellama73 wrote:

juliets wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Do the baddies have BTSC with each other (within their respective teams)? If so, wouldn't non-participation tend to indicate civvie-ness? (This was pointed out me at the beginning of the MOTU game, in which I was a little overzealous about going after non-participants)

As I just said in the other thread I'm still working on my first cup of coffee so maybe I'm missing something obvious but why would having bts lead to more participation in the thread or looked at the other way, why would civvs not post?

Because those on your team would likely prod you to participate, whereas if you have no BTSC you may not even be aware that the game has started.

This is simply not true for every game. Tbh I have been on teams and not gone to bts for a few days - and no one from my bts PM'ed me or fb'ed me or even emailed me. Sometimes (most times imo) you do not have total control of a bts situation. Mostly people play how they will play and won't change just b/c they have btsc.

MP - well I felt we needed to look somewhere for this lynch. Do you know something that the rest of us do not about us leaving the boat? Did you have info on the D 0 poll?

Llama - yes I understand their is more to a ship besides the hull. But like the fishing rod (a paper clip can serve as a hook) the auger can be replaced by the swiss knife to make holes. So maybe not today will this poll matter but in a couple of days yes I would say this poll matters. Imo I will most likely vote for someone who voted for the auger or maybe even the fishing rod.

Dex wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also looky I am not on the poll yippee!

Lucky you! What'd you do to get that?!?

Yah the luck of the Irish was with me yesterday
Srsly though I was taken off of this poll b/c of the day 0 poll.

SVS - ofc I have been totes watching the videos b/c I know you are similar to me when adding videos to our games. All have been spot on and very funny - also they bring back many memories for me.

So does anyone think looking at the poll will help us? I was thinking of looking at those who wanted to bring a digging tool on a boat - I do wonder the logic in their decision.

LOL llama - I can dig that

Going to be a tough Day 1 not even sure what to look at tbh. Hopefully someone copied the D 0 poll and will post it.

Also looky I am not on the poll yippee!

I am thinking I will go with the Gator Grip. It seems most handy and most likely to be used imho.
*votes gator grip*

And linki Snow Dog -

Yay for game! I hated the 80's but I did live through them

As for the poll - Gator Grip is a socket type tool that will shape itself to any socket/screw.

The Auger is a handy dandy digging tool.

Hercules Hooks are little devices to hang pictures/etc. I believe they are reusable.

Pocket fisherman is a mini fishing rod and reel.