The Syndicate

@leetic also I would say you were right about my read on you in that one game. But you are not giving those same iďgaf vibe in this game tbh.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:04 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:13 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:39 pm Also @Roxy re leetics vote, it was sus, yes, but it was also sloppy. He said LC had 2 posts, but when leetic voted he actually had 5. It's a small thing, but I just hosted bad leetic, and bad leetic is pretty careful. His vote felt more off the cuff for me, and "off the cuff" isn't a thing I associate with bad leetic.

It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.

I felt it was sloppy and poorly explained.
Town leetic to me is more careful, more calculating with his posts. This game he is doing NOTHING to move the game forward. I haven't seen him respond to any of my questions and that always gives me bad vibes
I mean, in the one game I recall us playing together your read on me wasn't good at all. If anything, I'm less concerned about who I piss off as town, though I wouldn't treat GoC as particularly representative of my town or wolf play, as I was playing to an independent win condition.

Sorry I didn't follow GoC.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:59 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:48 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine

wyd sigothy
Lazy vote. What makes sig look worse than the other low posters? If anything, there seems to be slightly more substance to his posts, not that that's a high bar to clear.

It read as a reaction test vote to me. Am I missing something?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:56 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:17 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:58 pm We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?
What is the difference between Lime and your reactions to your own votes after the fact?

This feels like you are just flinging stuff about to see where it might stick.
Not entirely sure what you are asking? But my votes are more proactive as opposed to Brad's which are more reactive, if that's what you mean.

You got the gist but basically you both came in and provided a reaction to your votes. I don't see the difference in the explanations.

You say your vote was proactive - in what way? You know others look at you as a town leader type you had to know people would follow your vote.

To me what would have been more helpful than just explaining your vote would be for you to look at those who followed you with little or no reasoning.

Like you did with the Wigly vote.

Thanks in advance

I am caught up

Letting crap brew around my mind a bit before I do a reads list

@Michelle I know Simon has played before unsure about Abigail Sophia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:31 pm OK, Wilgys flip was in purple font, same as the Independent, and Epi address the Avengers in the same orange font

Ergo, Wilgy was either Thanos or Deadpool

Thanks for this leg work

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:58 pm We should probably get things started here, so [VOTE: Brad] aubergine. You can't go wrong with voting the main suspect of the guy that just got killed. His "I totally regret not switching my vote" thing also does not look good; why would you regret it if you didn't know Wilgy was town?

What is the difference between Lime and your reactions to your own votes after the fact?

This feels like you are just flinging stuff about to see where it might stick.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:39 pm Also @Roxy re leetics vote, it was sus, yes, but it was also sloppy. He said LC had 2 posts, but when leetic voted he actually had 5. It's a small thing, but I just hosted bad leetic, and bad leetic is pretty careful. His vote felt more off the cuff for me, and "off the cuff" isn't a thing I associate with bad leetic.

It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.

I felt it was sloppy and poorly explained.
Town leetic to me is more careful, more calculating with his posts. This game he is doing NOTHING to move the game forward. I haven't seen him respond to any of my questions and that always gives me bad vibes

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:45 pm i like the cut of roxy's jib

I haven't heard that ever thanks pal!

You however remain neutral as yet for me. While we seem to be agreeing on stuff I am wary

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:54 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.
Is it obv tho? You may or may not be in the minority of people who got that. I've seen a couple of ""LC wants to yeet low posters" kind of talk out there.
If the question was a reaction test, do you have a conclusion based on it?

I do.

Also reformulated:

Simon and Abigail are both young. Bringing them in to the game super nicely and softball questions are the right way to go imho.
At least until day 3 or so

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:59 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Your two posts this phase are a whole lot of nothing even for RVS.
You have to have the keen Mafia sense to grasp the broad subtlety of the effectiveness of my posts. I won't hold it against you that you fail to see the bountiful fruit from a tree that is yet a seed.
I laughed at this, I found it -

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:58 pm Wilgy feels town.

I don't know about anyone else, not enough inputs
This is fast esp for Michelle - what gives chick?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.
I don't understand the bolded but I think you questioned the read.
When I have an impression especially early in the game I am always posting it and see what feedbacks I receive. Here I had 2 opinions telling that Wigly having funny posts is not AI, and that's a thing we can analise later depending on flips.

If your intention was different, please ask again

Nah you got the gist.

Your play feels different to me. I'm not sure if I can point to a post it's just a tone thing I am getting from your posts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:54 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.
Is it obv tho? You may or may not be in the minority of people who got that. I've seen a couple of ""LC wants to yeet low posters" kind of talk out there.

It is obv.
Bc we are og mafia players back when hosts replaced or mk'ed players who did not play so we never resorted to no posters----- low posters yes, non posters no.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:52 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:44 pm
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Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
Are they better or worse than nothing?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

By "a lot", do you mean the twice?

IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?
I asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".

This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
You both simply asked questions - something we do in mafia to figure stuff out. Why is falcon predatory and not you?

Simon and Abagail are both young treading softly and softball questions are the right way to go imho.

Well, that's kind of the answer to your question. I didn't think that putting Simon's feet over the flames to get right to the bottom of exactly how much "a lot" is,and just how Wolfy it makes him if we find out he is deceiving us about how many times "intuition" was said, was really "softball". And like I said, I thought it was odd as well when I read it, but Idecided it didn't matter and leeway was appropriate. Then falcon went the other way.

And I don't even really care about that any more. I was trying to get some things going on a very quiet Day 1, and falcon's thing irked me enough to use that. It is 100% true that asking questions and probing is good for Day 1, and falcon could easily be Town. Several people have felt he is acting like his Town self after that interaction with me, and if that's true then I'd be happy with those results.

Thanks for this but idk if i feel strongly enough to tr falcon or you for that matter. Waiting to see how this day plays out.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:31 pm @Roxy
Yes because iirc Motobots vote was the third. Abigail’s vote on Wilgy was even sketchier imo, but that vote hadn’t been made when I posted about motos vote.

Leetic was also sketchy but it wasn’t a pile on. “Random” or “vibe” pile ons always strike me as sus.

I thought Porschas was a joke at the time. Although in retrospect, TSPs “Willy is bad” “oh wait maybe not” “his posts are bad” “ maybe not” thing yet leaving his vote on Wilgy was also mega sketch.

Agree on all points. Makes me feel we are of the same mind which in turn quig's (kwig's?) me out a bit

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:23 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:00 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:41 am Legit the only person I can like have any positive thoughts on besides Porscha is Leetic and it's only because he tried doing something.

So yeah the bar is very very low.

explain what exactly leetic tried that you basically town'ed him for it.
He voted someone. Like I said in a later post, the bar was low because next to nothing in the game was done at that point.
Now the game has gotten more developed but Leetic hasn't done anything since and now I don't have him in my towns anymore.

It's almost as if there were no bar.

You didn't tr me for my vote

Thanks for the response

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:01 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:29 pm Sorry to the host and players. I was YaYa'ing it up until a moment ago I haven't read anything beyond D 0.
For this reason I'm voting SVS, as she is a close friend I know she understands my predicament.
No worries Chica!

<3

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:40 pm Wait is Simon Delta?

Simon and Abigail are Epi's children

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:53 pm @Roxy

Video is unavailable to me. This is where I left off.

Continuing

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:48 pm Yeah, D1 I usually don't have anything to go off of other than gut feeling. Same applies here, so all I can do at the moment is vote and hope.

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:49 pm That being said. [VOTE: Long con] aubergine

so very pingy..... How many games have you and LC played together?

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:20 pm Thread is still way too quiet. I'll give minor townleans to Michelle and falcon for now, but that's about all.

Came in to pad your post count but did not add ANYTHING of substance. Why are you giving them townleans?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:02 am
motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:48 pm Yeah, D1 I usually don't have anything to go off of other than gut feeling. Same applies here, so all I can do at the moment is vote and hope.

motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:49 pm That being said. [VOTE: Long con] aubergine
Having reread without reactions, this is the thing that sticks out the most to me. What did your gut tell you? Was it just random, was it becasue he had votes?

I think this is the sketchiest vote in the thread so far.

I am gonna drop a vote on [VOTE: motobot] aubergine for now. I am going to go back and reread him in the Hungry game, where he was bad, and see if he made this kind of vote there.

sketchier than leetic's or Porscha's? I found all three problematic.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:27 am I find myself agreeing a lot with SVS.

Also, just noticed your location, and it made me giggle. I’m also imagining a big lawn with little man statues all over it.

dammit I am feeling the same inre: SVS. Agreeing with her almost 100%.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:35 am Willy’s a wolf

who is willy?

I have 3 more pages but I have a meeting first be back around after.

Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
Are they better or worse than nothing?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

By "a lot", do you mean the twice?

IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?
I asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".

This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You both simply asked questions - something we do in mafia to figure stuff out. Why is falcon predatory and not you?

Simon and Abagail are both young treading softly and softball questions are the right way to go imho.

LC's push of falcon here feels odd.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:17 pm haha, yeah, falcon, what a dweeb, doing that to simon

i totally wasn't about to do the same thing

you are making me laugh this game - thanks

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:31 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:03 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 am Good morning!
The open night I understand it's Wilgy's ability and it's so townie that it makes me happy the chop failed.
what makes it towny lol
Well Epi said this was old school, and old school a yeet *stop* was a town role, and a yeet *switch* was a wolf role.

Doesn’t make it that way automatically, but it was my first thought too.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:24 am Idk if it's OGI but I kinda doubt Epi would create a maf role that just stopped themselves from being yeeted. Feels a bit...idk more bastard-y than normal?

I’m pegging Wilgy as third party and moving on for the time. I think based off the roles either third party would have some form of stop vote/can’t be voted off ability.

seen this after my last post and wanted to say- on other sites I have played on the only Day save was for a godfather mafia type role. So I agree with sig 3rd party or mafia is likely.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:21 am
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Your two posts this phase are a whole lot of nothing even for RVS.
You have to have the keen Mafia sense to grasp the broad subtlety of the effectiveness of my posts. I won't hold it against you that you fail to see the bountiful fruit from a tree that is yet a seed.

I laughed at this, I found it -

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:58 pm Wilgy feels town.

I don't know about anyone else, not enough inputs

This is fast esp for Michelle - what gives chick?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

Looking for reactions much? obv is obv. Sorry.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:41 am Legit the only person I can like have any positive thoughts on besides Porscha is Leetic and it's only because he tried doing something.

So yeah the bar is very very low.

explain what exactly leetic tried that you basically town'ed him for it.

Doing a catch up---

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:37 pm [VOTE: Dr Wilgy] aubergine

do something about it i guess

what made you keep your vote here? You only made to make the game exist but had zero questions for any other Wigly voters - just didn't *feel* like the Porscha I am used to.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Your two posts this phase are a whole lot of nothing even for RVS.

Your posts to this point were absolutely NOTHING even for RVS. I find this vote eye brow arch-worthy. As you have been on the Syndicate long enough to know about D 1's and the approach to RVS on the site.

Almost all of D1's on this site are big nothing-burgers.

What were you expecting from LC that you did not expect from yourself?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:30 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:59 pm Oh hey Brad I didn't realize you were in this game, I was hyping you up since you're Brad
I was gonna say "Hiii Porschaaaa"

And do the whole "How was ya dayyy?" bit like I did in the last game but timing is bad.

But yeah I'm actually town this game and I have 0 distractions or other games I'm paying attention to so I'll be able to fully play and not be shit.

Lime response here reads wonky to me. Timing bad? You still asked the question that the timing was bad for

Then you "town" yourself. I didn't realize this was a thing for anyone besides falc.

Continuing on......

Sorry to the host and players. I was YaYa'ing it up until a moment ago I haven't read anything beyond D 0.
For this reason I'm voting SVS, as she is a close friend I know she understands my predicament.

Enjoying a chill morning with coffee and sunshine - voted for old fridge as it is completely apropos for my life rn
Happy Thursday!!

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