The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:18 am oh just kiss wont you

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:14 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:53 am I think everyone that hasn't already should share their new impressions of Quin.

I liked their early approach to me think their reason for abandoning the read was valid even if wrong from their pov.

They can go in the town core

JJJ
Wilgy
Wiml
Falcon
Quin
+1

Roxy is a lean town.

holy shit this is a first for us. Thank you for this. <3

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:44 am I don't think that a potential wolf-Lime Coke just gives up under pressure if one of his initial strong pushers (JJJ) is actually a wolf bussing him.

so you think Limey has just given up?

I cannot guage them so your input would be so farout.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:34 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:08 am

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:06 pm Pie is delicious.

So much better than cake.

GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kate is wrong.
Kate is always wrong in this scenario.
Kate hates Pie.
Kate is civ.
Yep these posts prove it to me.

Cake ftmfw

Could you explain what about those posts makes you think Kate is town please?

see my previous post I just made <3 good morning

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:54 am I'm finishing this nightcap and thereafter going to make a desperate attempt to sleep. If you have anything to ask, speak now or forever hold your pee.

What sells you on Kate being mafia, and do you believe she can be teamed with Abigail?

I wasn't even looking that way until Roxy said something. I could find the post but I'm tired and it's not like Roxy has a million of them.

I think Kate's milking the "Look how well I read Zenon in Bad Dates." I expected you as the host to have more to say on that front, but okay.

It came across as disingenuous, such that Kate even bobbled the alignment.

Then it takes a million attempts to get a word about Kate, and now these two are just distancing at this point.

It's goofy. There's no interaction between them. They aren't looking to figure each other out. They are lost. I'm going with teammates here.

Kate said a funny thing about high posters being 90% town I took umbridge.
I am not thinking it automatically makes her baddie. I just found it an unusual thing for Kate to post.
You jumping on it is a bit of a ping but tbh I think Kate and Pa are probs both town.
I am trying very hard to not let them become a Pyxxy/Scotty diff check in all games where we elim them bc people auto think *one* must be a wolf and 80% of the time both are town and we waste days determining that.

I honestly believe Kate is trying to change her town game, see her last couple of games as town and you will see a marked difference than her previous town play. She is trying to tone herself down and this is just how I have been reading her the last couple of games. I think she would love to live past D/N/ 1 for once.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:05 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:28 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you agree that, even if the "first three-vote wagon contains one mafioso in four names" theory is consistently accurate, that you fundamentally break it by causing the wagon to reach three votes yourself?

Yes though I've done it before. It generates content. Readable content and while I've not tracked the success of forcing the read and can't remember if it worked or not I do think there's validity in that it forced his readable content out of Michelle You Roxy...

How was readable content forced out of me. Genuinely curious.

Bc I thought I was posting when I could. At work before meeting and before I turned into a YaYa. But if content was being forced from me I would like for you to explain gently to me how it happened.

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:06 pm Pie is delicious.

So much better than cake.

GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kate is wrong.
Kate is always wrong in this scenario.
Kate hates Pie.
Kate is civ.
Yep these posts prove it to me.

Cake ftmfw

@Prinncess - well the mention would not come up so sorry for that. Thank you for your responses it is helping me to guage you this game.

I am almost out of the office and starting my track to all 3 stations then it will be my fave time of day - YaYa time! I will be in and out and hope to - at the very least - stay caught up reading. Happy posting!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:38 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:05 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 am It's a read I've used with consistency for months with insanely high accuracy.

The read is the first wagon with 3 votes always had 1 wolf in 4 names

I admittedly forced it here but still.

I disagree with the "high accuracy" portion of this post as the games I have played it has had only a 50/50 accuracy no worse than GTH reads imo.

I keep stats and it's >75% accurate across all sites

ok, but I'll agree to disagree with your stats <3 In the nicest poss way

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:38 pm

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:03 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:27 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 amDoesn't seem to care about his vote.

His question towards Epi voting Quinn didn't feel like something he was trying to use to solve Epi and didn't look like he cared about the response.

Understood, thanks. I'll stow my thoughts until falcon responds to this.

He'll probably post.






Like this.

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you

Can you explain, in detail that I am sure to understand, what you mean by this gif response to post that does concern you nor contain anything posted by you?

Well see I'm playing mafia so generally speaking wolfy behavior always concerns me. Including this.

Yah I am playing mafia too I do not need that.

What is wolfy behavior that you see in this post?
Who in the post you quoted is wolfy?
Why are they wolfy?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:36 pm I think I am swapping Roxy and Kate in my reads list. Roxy seems town, and I think her concerns about Kate are justified.

you are creeping me out I do not mean this in a mean or perverse way. It's your flip flopping I had forgotten about it - until now

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:38 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.

@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3

Thanks for answering!

Is there anybody in this lobby that you'd consider yourself to have a good read on?

no it's way too early to be sure (at least for me) how about you?

@Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.

@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3

also I miss splints this game and also SVS.

Pa - everyone can clear her early but me. I waiting on a couple of responses rn no idea.

Wilgy - has not posted that i have seen nor remember no idea

Epi - read him as bad so in all likely hood he is town but srsly no idea

falcon - is falc'ing it up too soon to say for sure maybe town

JJJ - seems to be trying too hard, not sure what to make of it in older games when you was all gusto and bluster you was bad it has been a long while so I will not use old time play against you. I want to see you have fun playing bc it has been so long since we have played< 3 reserving judgement for now.

Kate - very early game half joking half serious seems normal for Kate. For Town Kate at least for now I am not getting the same weird vibes like last game when you were town but you read as bad for me.

Limey - I think we have one game we have played together I I have hosted you but really have not a clue how to read you this game is different from Sesame Street and from CyberPunk. So I am left twisting and have no idea.

Michelle - usually an easy read for me bc her town shines bright from a vibe/tone this game I think town

Quin - No posts that I seen nor remember I have no idea

Wiml - also another try harder on the site. I hope I remembered to welcome you. I will not suss you nor vote you D 1. Bc you are new to me and I want you to feel welcomed. I am unsure but I think with a couple of days with your tone you will show yourself one way or the other. No idea as of now.

I do not what you expect @falcon45ca as it is so early in D 1 and I need almost the full first 48 to form my own proper reads.

What about you?

@falcon45ca give me a chance to *at least* catch a break at work I'll try and respond during the meeting <3

ok caught up for now I have a need for a smoke then I have a meeting I'll be around trying to stay caught up.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:23 am During the day tho?




I am Mary Fuckin' Poppins

During the day I am a hard assed boss type bitch lmao

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:18 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:14 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:

falcon45ca
Michelle
--
Kate
Epignosis
--
Abigail
Wiml
--
DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke

Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.

I would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.

Ftr I don't think JJJ meant this as a slight at all.

Nobody in the yellows at the time of that post had posted anything game-related (only 1 person, you, had posted). It's pretty fair to say that those people hadn't yet been deeply involved yet and all he's saying there is that you haven't had the time to play as of then, not that you're a worse player or have less accurate reads.

I appreciate you having JJJ's back but we have had a history of miselimming bc of my low posting ways and his baddie way of looking town when high posting AND vice versa. I was just reminding him of our past.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:59 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:56 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:

@DrWilgy - Town
@Epignosis - Mafia
@falcon45ca - Mafia (not the recent one)
@Kate - Mafia
@Quin - Both
@Roxy - Both

Sorry for the mass ping!

no wtaf? I do not play your way I play my own tyvm <3 I hope you will do the same.

What do you mean? I'm only asking you to link a couple past games of yours, not asking you to play in any specific way.

I just want to learn about the people playing in this game who I don't know.

I won't do it bc I disagree on playing a meta based game state. You can play by meta if ya want to I never will base my game on them nor can I learn about player just by reading a past game, if you can more power to ya.

I have played many games on this site. Have fun in the Museum of the Mafioso.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am If I try to provide a more concrete rainbow that isn't just dichotomized for a POE pool:

falcon45ca
Michelle
--
Kate
Epignosis
--
Abigail
Wiml
--
DrWilgy
Quin
Roxy
Lime Coke

Names are still not ordered within individual colors. In this case, the bottom four form a default "POE pool" that leaves room for one of the names above to drop back in if necessary. I will try not to get too absorbed into this world view (I acknowledge my rationale for each read isn't extremely thorough yet), but it's going to stagnate as long as the thread is dominated by a subset of high-activity posters. That's no slight on the folks that haven't gotten deeply involved yet; I understand time is a limited resource.

I would like to point out quite fairly I might add that I will never be a top poster.
Does that mean my reads are less than your bc you have more posts> Uh - nope.
Deeply involved is very subjective and unfair to use as people have lives work insane hours and have to be a YaYa at night.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 am It's a read I've used with consistency for months with insanely high accuracy.

The read is the first wagon with 3 votes always had 1 wolf in 4 names

I admittedly forced it here but still.

I disagree with the "high accuracy" portion of this post as the games I have played it has had only a 50/50 accuracy no worse than GTH reads imo.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:27 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 amDoesn't seem to care about his vote.

His question towards Epi voting Quinn didn't feel like something he was trying to use to solve Epi and didn't look like he cared about the response.

Understood, thanks. I'll stow my thoughts until falcon responds to this.

He'll probably post.






Like this.

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you

Can you explain, in detail that I am sure to understand, what you mean by this gif response to post that does concern you nor contain anything posted by you?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:17 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:16 am Ftr I do not plan to just go "ah yes, x did y thing as wolf so they're a wolf" or bad stuff like that.

I just want to get a feel for the playstyles and personalities of the people I don't know well as both alignments.

I am curious to see how you handle meta tbh

I'd be curious to see anyone play without using it.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:15 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 pm To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.

Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?

I don't believe you interpreted JJJ's statement this way.

Fake entrance.

[VOTE: ☆Princess Abigail☆] aubergine

a ott response - ping. a baby one.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:

@DrWilgy - Town
@Epignosis - Mafia
@falcon45ca - Mafia (not the recent one)
@Kate - Mafia
@Quin - Both
@Roxy - Both

Sorry for the mass ping!

no wtaf? I do not play your way I play my own tyvm <3 I hope you will do the same.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:08 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:05 am Also @JaggedJimmyJay here are my last 2 finished games one town one mafia at MU, not turbos/mashes/anons (because I played 2 anon games, 2 mashes and 3 turbos but they are not regular games)

Season 10, Game 6: The Good, the Bad, and the Scummy (The Mafia Championship)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ionship%29

Mafia League: S2 M1G1
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ue-S2-M1G1

Thank you for these. On a quick scan, you made reads on SCCHAMP and Abgiail/Zenon (in each respective game) early on that fit the theme I had asked about earlier. That's a nice boost for you.

I disagree using other games from completely different sites to make a read on a game here.

Just my own personal rule. Mostly bc it is not fair. Some people play by phone and can't/won't follow links to read up on their own and will instead go with how you read them (your own personal view vs their own).
Not saying you are a baddie but I am also not saying you are town.
That is tbd. Just reminding others to make their own minds up for theor reads vs just accepting what someone else says bc they followed links.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:03 am I always comb my hair and apply deodorant before entering the game thread.

Can't tell by *that* avatar

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:45 am Uh just want to clarify that despite having a lot of words about my read there that my read / vote on Michelle was more of a RVS + weak scum indicative lean thing and less of a genuine solid scumread thing.

I'm just wordy.

hey, don't think we have ever played and I am glad you posted this as your thing on Michelle was weak imo. It is way too early on D 1 to toss votes out all willy nilly imo. Ofc we all play different and a few people do pop off votes quite early that I easily dismiss as unlikely to stick.

You being wordy is like having another SpaceDaisy playing, jk but me and Daisy have had previous interactions that were not great bc of the wordiness.

welcome to TS.

I disagree with PApa (lol see what I did there) that there is a likely wolf that voted them. Too soon to say and be so sure.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?

I


















Could do


More?

lmao

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:49 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:40 pm So it must be Quin, diet Pepsi and poor poor Dr wolfy.

*solved*

Is this to suggest you view everyone that has posted so far as civilians?

No lol I was just joking. But in general I fins that most of the early loud players are 90% civ.

These type of generalizations are what lead the town to trouble.
It's the same with me must solve between X and X.
It is just as possible for a *loud* player to be wolf as there is for *lhf* to be a wolf.
C'mon Kate you know I expect better than this from ya.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:27 pm Speaking of exciting times, I'm off to watch Gilmore Girls. I'll return thereafter.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:23 pm

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:15 pm

Yay game, busy YaYa'ing tonight I'll be around tomorrow

Catching up and thankful there is not 27 and 3/4 pages <3

Yay game, busy YaYa'ing tonight I'll be around tomorrow