The Syndicate

Snow Dog wrote:Kate said that she thought she knew my role. I wonder how? What gave me away?

I had a feeling you were on your own so you were on my short list of people to search for mcg or the bomb. On day two me, dex and jc went through each player and narrowed it down to you or bwt (after I had searched first jc and then boo). If it weren't bwt we were going for you next. We kept trying to see if you would agree with our lynch choices and when you did we just hoped we were right about you cuz we planned to bring you to the end.

OK, now everyone go sign up for MINECRAFT, Andrew's second offering to the world of mafia!

I have to agree with juliets, those btsc rooms were torture.

That was so much fun! Thanks for an awesome game svs!

And a super team dex, jc and bwt! And congrats snow dog, too. We had a feeling it was you

I am voting fh. I don't see any evidence there is a recruit in the roles and it seems crazy to me to search for one when there are still baddies to lynch.

The A Team wrote:Yes Kate there could other reasons. But have you actually read his posts? He is all over the map. Didn't want to lynch MP at first didn't want to lynch Vomps. If there was a recruit to MP's team I posit that it would be llama.

Ok I agree that is a possibility. However we have not found one of the original baddies from the other team. I think one may have died last night and I think the other is fh. If llama is bad, I don't think he started off that way. I think you agree to that too.

The A Team wrote:BWT - the same can be said for you too. You have ignored suspicion that has been directed at you.

But I promised a read of FH.

She has very few posts which struck me as a little odd since FH while not ever a top poster she usually has more quality posts.

She has been posting voting records, she does this when bad too, she has answered some suspicion directed her way but not all of it.

She accused LT of being ott in her defense and LT pointed out how her suspicion was based on not reading the entire thread and just one quote. LT proved FH's faulty case but did FH retract anything? No. Did she say yeah you're right LT I should have read the entire convo? No.

When LT said right before she was lynched that this is not a civvie FH, FH posts almost immediately and say something like:
"Woah LT I am a civvie I am not voting you see!!"
She did NOT say "LT you are right I didn't read the rest of the convo I based my suspicion on" she just said I am civvie!

She did say something in a post I did not understand so I will quote it and hope she can explain what she meant.
Flyin' High wrote: . I'm sure AATB was most sad to see LT 1.0 be lynched.
I see Kate is once again sticking up for llama. It makes me uncomfortable. Many baddies have stuck up for their teammates in this fashion lately.
llama is still making me wonder about his affiliation.

I do wonder if someone shouldn't read Kate and BWT too.

You can't think of any other reason that might be more likely as to why I would defend llama?

Flyin' High wrote:RIP LT. I really couldn't get past that no u, but you made me worry with how you were posting after you had enough votes to be lynched. I think llama is definitely where we should be looking next since that's what LT wanted.

How about this post? After pushing for LT to be lynched, she waited until the last minute when it was too late and voted llama. Then after LT flipped civ, which I think fh knew would happen, she said let's get llama next...thats what LT wanted. She neglects to mention that LT had someone else in mind...fh.

Once again, I will say I think it is a mistake to vote llama. We can not afford to lynch another civ.

S~V~S wrote:P.S. If you have 5 or so minutes you don't mind wasting, and are fairly high, watch the MacGyver or Matlock video. It's pretty freaking awesome, lol. But only if you're high

I'm on steroids and Novocaine, does that count?

S~V~S wrote:Thats kinda the point, I think~

Hilarious host is hilarious ~

Wtf? That sucks.

that sucks.

Voted alf

*votes LT*

LittleTiger wrote:Also.... if FH is not bad, I will be entirely SHOCKED! I know her civvie game very well... and this ain't it

If you are so sure, why would you vote Llama?

LittleTiger wrote:
Kate wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:Well, Russtifinko, if you lot succeed in voting me out yet again, you will end up with the same result as last time. I am a civvie.

And if I had thought about this, we wouldn't even be having this discussion until the next Day.... I am just fail this time around LOL! Oh well...
What's your read on He-Man, LT?
I can never read him - when I think he is bad, he ends up being civvie, when I think he is civvie, he ends up bad. He confuses me. I guess there could be something to him having been recruited...

But I still think, strongly, that YOU are bad
Really? I think, strongly, that he is not.
I have reasons for suspecting him that I cannot divulge... but it goes back to when I was lynched the first time. Why are you so sure he is NOT bad?

I also have reasons, which I cannot divulge. But, quite frankly, I don't believe you because my reasons are solid.

EBWOP: Llama, that is. In case that wasn't clear.

LittleTiger wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:Well, Russtifinko, if you lot succeed in voting me out yet again, you will end up with the same result as last time. I am a civvie.

And if I had thought about this, we wouldn't even be having this discussion until the next Day.... I am just fail this time around LOL! Oh well...
What's your read on He-Man, LT?
I can never read him - when I think he is bad, he ends up being civvie, when I think he is civvie, he ends up bad. He confuses me. I guess there could be something to him having been recruited...

But I still think, strongly, that YOU are bad

Really? I think, strongly, that he is not.

thellama73 wrote:At least Snow Dog and Kate trust me. The rest of you should follow their lead.

Snow Dog wrote:Any possibilty that Llama's vote could be forced somehow?

You are such a little conspiracy theorist

Sorry I haven't been around much, I am swamped at work today. I'm trying to do a read through before I make a decision.

He-Man wrote:
Kate wrote:HeMan is always very hard for me to read, he's always all over the place. I will do a scan of his posts later. I do recall that he was drunk and did some defending of LT (who is my top suspect today). Now that I think about it, he may be thinking the lynch is headed her way and throwing her under the bus. I have a tough time with the "win whether you are alive or dead" games.

I will elaborate more later, just got to work.

I still tend to see Boo and Llama as civ.
I think you will find I defended LT 1.0 not 2.0

Ah right, sorry. I forgot about that...

HeMan is always very hard for me to read, he's always all over the place. I will do a scan of his posts later. I do recall that he was drunk and did some defending of LT (who is my top suspect today). Now that I think about it, he may be thinking the lynch is headed her way and throwing her under the bus. I have a tough time with the "win whether you are alive or dead" games.

I will elaborate more later, just got to work.

I still tend to see Boo and Llama as civ.

Billie jean, but it was a tough decision between that and when doves cry.

OK, I've got to get to work. I've seen MORE than enough.

*votes Vompatti*

thellama73 wrote:The "Vompatti assumed MP has a partner, therefore he must be bad" line of attack is intensely confusing to me, as a casual glance at the role list indicates that the baddies come in teams of two. I'm wondering if this might be a diversionary tactic by people who want to get the Vomp out of the way for some reason.

He agreed he was bad and discussed his partner as though he was certain that he had one, thus he knew MP was bad. Make sense?

thellama73 wrote:I'm a little nervous about the seeming bandwagon on Vompatti. Why are people so sure that he is MP's partner?

Have you read the thread at all?

No one has even voted, what bandwagon?

Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?
Funny how in this post (which occurred on the morning of MP's lynch when he had one vote, you seem to assume that MP does in fact have a partner. why would that be?
It's Dex that assumes that, not me.

Maybe originally, but you agree and don't mention, hey we don't know if he has one yet.

Then you waited around until his lynch was pretty much a sure thing and laid down a vote smack dab in the middle of the bunch.

Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?

Funny how in this post (which occurred on the morning of MP's lynch when he had one vote, you seem to assume that MP does in fact have a partner. why would that be?

Vompatti wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
Huh, it was at the end of the poll. So you are saying that, yes, it is logical that you are MPs partner?
I'm saying that if you assume that one of the four(?) people on Dex's list who voted for boo was MP's partner, it would be logical to assume that it was me and not one of the others.
In that case we can assume you indeed are Mp's partner.
I wouldn't say that.

But, you see, that is exactly what you said.

Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?
Re-reading Vomps, I was struck by this exchange. I never assumed or said anything about assuming it was Vompatti. I never singled anyone out on that list, ever. He is defending himself against an accusation that was never made. Why? Because, I can only think, he knows it might fairly have been made.

Also, no, it wouldn't have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it a tie.

So I'll probably be voting Vomps, I'm almost certain he's Ashton. And, speaking from a personal note, I'll be relieved if we lynchify him as I assume he's already tried to NK me once. I guess I've gone and painted a target on my back.
Around the time you posted the list Boo and Kate assumed I was MP's partner so I thought you agreed with them, and I thought the reason for suspecting me was the way the poll went because no other reason was specified by anyone at that time. If you didn't suspect me particularly you really should have, because in that situation it would have been logical for MP's partner NOT to vote for boo unless it was necessary to save MP, which it seemed to be at the end of the poll but perhaps not earlier.

Huh, it was at the end of the poll. So you are saying that, yes, it is logical that you are MPs partner?

Vompatti wrote:
reywaS wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
juliets wrote: Vompatti, who are you looking at today for the lynch?
Well, I did think it was convenient for llama to be insanified (and the same goes for reywaS) but on the other hand I think it's really strange of Russtifinko to assume that we are sure that llame was faking it, when (as far as I know) he himself is the only one to have suggested that. So I think I'm leaning to Russtifinko until he explains himself.

מדוע היא נוחה בשבילי להיות insanified? לא הבנתי שהייתי תחת חשד?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that it's usually the civs who are insanified. So maybe you are a civ and the baddies think you're a civ, or maybe you're bad and your teammate insanified you to make you look like a civ. Llama's posts have been more fishy than yours though.

What is it that is fishy about Llama's posts?

Funny how the discussion has dropped right off Vomps. He is still my top suspect.

Sure, he dropped one (maybe two?) role hints, but when people pop right up saying they don't believe him it makes me awfully suspicious that its false. I, for one,don't believe him and I'm still planning to vote this way today.

Does anyone have the poll from yesterday?

Snow Dog wrote:So can we presume that Penny found MacGyver and so they are now posting as the A-Team also?

I think the a team is a completely separate entity.

And yay penny!

I looked over llama again. I know I have only played one game with him but I'm really not seeing any suspicious behavior. Can anyone elaborate?

Vompatti wrote:
Kate wrote:
boo wrote:
Dex wrote:One down, three to go! (Sorry MP, some day I'll get to see you play civ.) I was wrong about the affiliation but I'm OK with that.

As for his associate, of the four I'm suspecting Kate and Vomp voted for him and He-Man and Rusty Finko voted elsewise, making the latter two more suspect to my way of thinking.
I'm fairly confident vomp is his teammate, and that's probably where my vote is going tomorrow. It was pretty well clinched by the time he voted MP, and his D2 vote made ZERO sense as he said it was either me or MP (a split decision which made no sense), and it was the deciding vote in that lynch.
I agree wholeheartedly.
How would voting for MP have made more sense? Obviously he turned out to be bad but I'm not exactly getting civ vibes out of boo either.

Actually I just meNt I agree you are mps partner. I'm on phone today. My postsn will be short.

Voted poison.

boo wrote:
Dex wrote:One down, three to go! (Sorry MP, some day I'll get to see you play civ.) I was wrong about the affiliation but I'm OK with that.

As for his associate, of the four I'm suspecting Kate and Vomp voted for him and He-Man and Rusty Finko voted elsewise, making the latter two more suspect to my way of thinking.
I'm fairly confident vomp is his teammate, and that's probably where my vote is going tomorrow. It was pretty well clinched by the time he voted MP, and his D2 vote made ZERO sense as he said it was either me or MP (a split decision which made no sense), and it was the deciding vote in that lynch.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Well MP has already defended against my accusations and he's not going to change my mind, so I'm voting now so I can concentrate on work.

*votes MP*

You didn't think that voting to break a tie would be subject to scrutiny?

Vompatti wrote:
Dex wrote:
Vompatti wrote:To be honest I'm inclined to vote for MP at this point as his tl;dr defence didn't convince me, but I'd also like to hear how Dex came up with his list of names.
Those are the peeps who voted Boo last poll and got MP off the hook. Three are likely to be civ, I think, but one of them is almost certainly MPs partner.
And you're assuming it would be me since I was the last to vote? If I was MP's partner wouldn't it have made more sense to miss the vote and leave it at tie?

WIFOM. Maybe, maybe not.

Snow Dog wrote:
Kate wrote:
Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

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I'm not lost. I may have made in hindsight some bad voting decisions but that's it.

Maybe lost was a tad strong of a word to use, you don't seem to have the confidence behind your posts the way you did in your last game, which leads me to believe you are on your own.

MP, it strikes me that you were upset that people were judging you by other games played with you (I can't remember if it is this game or the other going on) but now you pull quotes from a past civ game?

What do you think of INH/LT 2.0, Snow Dog, llama, Dex, AATB, etc.? I would like to catch a baddie today and I do value your (and others') input, for whatever it is worth.

Snow Dog seems a bit lost, much more so than last game so I'm thinking civ on him. Llama seems the same to me as last game so far so I'm leaning civ on him as well.

Dex and AATB, I think I have played one game with each of them so have not got much of a read on either.

These may change if I go back and see who each voted for yesterday.

I know you don't want to hear this, but with what I have mentioned before and the way the lynch went down day one, I think you are baddie and the best way for us to get info on who the others are.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, this is great, thanks everyone. Way to give me a chance to defend myself.

I say one thing about how I think Rox might be worth a vote, I didn't even vote her, and the thread descends to hell. It seems evident to me NOW that Rox is probably civvie, that she and I are bickering in a civ-on-civ manner, and that INH is probably bad.

This is bullshit.

Also, here is some anger from day one. This doesn't read frustrated civvie to me. It reads baddie caught.

I think I'm seeing an MP who will throw his teammates under the bus. This reminds me of AHS.

I am also seeing an MP who thought I was civ, but then has an eye on me because Dex does (someone you have on your list of baddies...). Just like you did in MOTU.

I also notice, when you are bad, you do a lot of justifying. I do this (x, y, and z) because that's what civvies do. As in, look at me I'm so civvie!

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