The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:53 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:25 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

why?

I have only two games if prior experience with Michelle. In one she was my wolfmate and in the other she was clearly different. She feels like the first here.

Besides that, Alison made a post about how easy Michelle was to read at one point, so casual that it wasn’t so much a town read as a preemptive dismissal that anyone could wolfread Michelle. It pinged me then, it pings me now.

I would prefer Michelle get looked at closer tomorrow

Which is you prefer, if you can pick only one

Michelle gets examined less today, but gets votes
Michelle gets voted for less today, but gets examined

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

I did this PoE

People I don't find particularly townie you could look at spew of or ignore but I'd add one of these as a 5th I think

DrWilgy
hollowkatt
Kate
Michelle
Party Crasher
Sloonei

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:37 am Yes as do mine I suppose.

But I'm trying to create a narrow POE like we did to great effect yesterday.

MR
Scotty
SVS
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I'd like to prosecute these people and would love live and fully considerate debate on them.

I would add 112, guillo and Michelle personally.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:27 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:20 am Voters: Marmot, Dyslexicon, Party Crasher

I bet you one of these are wolf and I'm clearing Marmot for now so

the way party crasher has treated me yesterday and today before town opinion swung in my favour felt opportunistic so I wont shield anymore

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:53 am

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:35 am @Golden was it not you who said that Alison got Guillo out of the POE, several times?

Makes ya think.

Yep. I was happy to let Alison take him out of the PoE, but I was always very specific about the reason why I was agreeing.

Guillo still ticks all the boxes for me.

As in you think he's a wolf?

Yeah, I see no reason why not.

From the very start I said there was wolves in the Kate sceptics and the people who claimed they wanted to slank until the game was smaller. Guillo was both.

And, btw, Seanzie and Alison were both in the Kate sceptic category. Challenging me on that town read in particular was always wolfy behaviour. Guillo, Urist and scotty are the other three who did.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:19 am Rondo is town

Which means Urist is town

Mac is town

Golden is town

Ender is town

I'm town

Let's fucking solve this game together guys through the power of unity.

Anyone of my town reads could be 3p I'm ignoring that for now

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:14 am

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:39 am

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:38 am

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:33 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:04 am alison alive coz shes mafia

-tutuu

Honestly probably just clearing for PC.

@Golden given our POE yesterday ended up netting a wolf, shouldn't we just like, keep using it?

Okay, but why would this clear them from being third party or second team?

This is why I keep hesitating on you since you ignore the possibility of other than civ unless you’ve got a personal negative read on someone and that’s the only way to fit your thoughts with the obvious fact they can’t be mafia.

By the logic of multi ball/dangerous third party nobody is town a clear yet you’re handing out spew clears left and right?

Am I missing something here or what

I have stopped solving in multiball worlds. SVS pointed out there is pseudo mod confirmation of one mafia team in the OP.

Okay so why wouldn’t PC be on the third party team?

Assuming one exists which for arguments sake let’s say there is

I like the idea of hunting for definite mafia team before hypothetical evil 3P team.

Unless there's an obvious lead on 3P, and reason to believe they're anti-town.


Fortunately in this game, we will know when mafia is eliminated.

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:00 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:45 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:43 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:51 pm Out of the “town core” the two I most suspected were Mac and Allison.

I still suspect Mac to a degree but I don’t want to paranoidly get rid of him yet.

Lily, Kate, Wilgy should all probably be looked at just for being so under the radar.

For the love of God, am I really utr? All I've had time to do this game was defend. Hmph.

You could solve instead of defend

Give me all your reads

this can't be a real post

has to be w/w right?

why are you asking this of kate?

kate isn't even scumread?

Kill me and find out

Losing town kp would be pretty dope

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:31 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:27 pm I think that Golden and Kate are wolves on the other mafia team btw.

not implausible. alison wanted golden dead all game (im unsure if she changed her read). if so, sig would be with them and he shot her

I absolutely think town sig literally never shoots Alison and anyone who believes that is seriously misleading people.

this ties it up neatly

kate, golden, neon, sig - non-soup mafia. they both have 2 vigs (neon and sig)

soup mafia has: sabi, seanzie, alison, +1. 2 vigs (seanzie and the last unknown one, that alison covered for)

in this case they would be two identical teams, maybe even the same roles

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:24 pm I am also ok a final warning before I get banned for being hostile so think before you engage me in a hostile manner today please.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:59 pm I don't know if I agree but you know Kate much better than I so I'd be willing to accept a D3 specific pass for her.

I’ll go back and find the Sean and Alison d1 stuff at some point. They were veeeeery reluctant to concede a town read on Kate. Felt very ‘hey, don’t steal our lhf’ to me. It was a central reason I picked Alison for the neighbourhood to begin with.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:57 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:56 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:55 pm Sabi, Sean, and Alison all flipped "SOUP MAFIA", so atm I'm inclined to believe they're all on the same team.

Why in the world would anyone assume anything different?

Mac mentioned the idea of this being multiball and Sean's mafia team killing Alison.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:56 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:51 pm Out of the “town core” the two I most suspected were Mac and Allison.

I still suspect Mac to a degree but I don’t want to paranoidly get rid of him yet.

Lily, Kate, Wilgy should all probably be looked at just for being so under the radar.

For the love of God, am I really utr? All I've had time to do this game was defend. Hmph.

I’ve seen you defend yourself a bit and golden defend you, but out of all the lower content/under the radar style players you’re the least Under it.

Outside of the defense I don’t recall much else though

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:55 pm Sabi, Sean, and Alison all flipped "SOUP MAFIA", so atm I'm inclined to believe they're all on the same team.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:51 pm Out of the “town core” the two I most suspected were Mac and Allison.

I still suspect Mac to a degree but I don’t want to paranoidly get rid of him yet.

Lily, Kate, Wilgy should all probably be looked at just for being so under the radar.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:33 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:21 pm Marmot and Rondo are still falling to the bottom of my list.

Someone do Alison spew stuff

It seems highly unlikely that Rondo and seanzie were teammates to me. Plus Alison jumped all over me yesterday for just the mention of Rondo, like I was defending him. I don't think she'd do that if he was on her team.

She hard pushed Seanzie, her partner.

Elaborate on why you think it clears Rondo?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:21 pm Marmot and Rondo are still falling to the bottom of my list.

Someone do Alison spew stuff

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 pm Damn I was just telling my scum chat that Alison looked bad

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:59 pm rondo and marmot are outed mafia for not voting mac

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:54 pm Marmot is ignoring my pleas, and is self voting

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:53 pm Seanzie should be the elim. I'm back to confidence on this. Rondo is probably just also a wolf and is a fine wagon but Seanzie is wolf kp and should die.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:47 pm

Spoiler: show

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:02 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:52 pm Well, this turned out to not be true.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:39 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 pm I just voted Cape90 on the poll, I was thinking I did it 2 hours ago when I posted about it but apparently nope.

@lucy: can you give me your thoughts on him? (particularly his last read list)

Voting in the thread, but not in the poll.

You're wolfing my dude.

I'm at Friday PM now, and they've put forth their first major ping, Creature.

They got between Sabi and Lucy who were kinda "fuck offing" each other. NAI, Marmot's a person who doesn't love conflict, imo.

Made a soft push towards Dennis, but backed off pretty much immediately. Not sure if this is AI or not?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 pm Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

I did agree with Marmot 100% here, I didn't really see it either. *Waits for someone to yell "Pocketing! TMI!" at me.

Someone earlier said that Marmot and Sabi have a sup0er close relationship? They ask Sabis opinion quite a bit, is this NAI given that?

Here Marmot says he's concerned about Sabi, implying Sabi could be bad. I'm guessing that means the same as "worried"?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:54 pm I should do some work

bbl

Sabi if you get a chance could you please take respond to my read questions on Creature and sig? Or point me to your explanations if I missed them. I'm a little concerned about you atm, but I also want to give you space to solve and hope I can find you if you're town.

I just pulled this because Mac called them a "flippin merman" which I found hilarious. A bit later Marmot called Mac a "flippin Mermac" which was also hilarious.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:09 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:06 pm I'm not really feeling a Creature vote atm.

Who else should I vote?

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin merman

Thanks, I'll try.

He made a few temp votes, made a case on Cape. He wishied, he washied, which is not totally fair, since I did pretty much quite a bit of the same, tbh.

All in all, I was fairly convinced by the bit with Neon (who I had forgotten had been a woof in Holes) who came out of it very civ, marmot not so much.

Gonna [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine for now, they haven't been in here all day and I'd like to hear what they say.

@Dyslexicon Sure it's fair. I have been flying low, and not playing at the level I am capable of. Plus I know it's cheesy and weak, two things I dislike, especially in myself, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the massiveness of this thread the first few (calendar) days. I tend to be a meta player, and all the people I didn't know flinging suspish at other people I didn't know for reasons I didn't understand kinda made me freeze a bit. I think I'm starting to find my feet, though.

I'm gonna eat dinner and keep reading, bbl.

I'm not sure what she's saying here about Creature, it may be bc I was reading it out of context. Svs, can you clarify?

The only time I've EVER seen svs freeze was not a civ...

I'm addressing this to you, rather than Golden or Scotty, becasue you should know better.

You're looking for Day 3 or 4 SVS here.

You couldn't handle this kind of thread in Cartomancy, yet you seem to think I won't be overwhelmed. Like I'm some sort of super person who won't freeze. Jesus Christ.

You know my game better than anyone. I need meta, and I need to find small things. Which is hard for me in this setting.

Generally I kick into gear when it's time to momma bear, when the wolves fuck with someone I care about. Then I hear that little voice in my ear telling me where to look, how to find them. It was there in the last several games, and it helped me find what I was looking for.

Other than Dennis, who was killed by another townie, I have no idea, or real connection to anyone that was killed. I think most of the people who were killed were killed by town. I haven't found anything to latch on to yet.

And also, I don't fucking know what a Lost Wolf is, it isn't a TMI thing or any other kind of stupid jargon I don't understand. I don't know what it is.

That little voice is not there, and that's OK, I should be able to work without it. And I will, but I need to be given my ground to get my feet. This whole "Oh SVS isn't on fire" or whatever else is ridiculous on Day Two.

Now I have to get in there and see what's what.

If it was up to me, I would keep my vote on Marmot, that's the closest thing to the "little thing" I need to latch onto, the thing he said to Neon. That was such a bad look for him.

But it looks like I'll have to vote to save. Of my esteemed competitors, I felt worse about Sean than Rondo, but that seemed to develop today, and I have to read the case on that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:29 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:19 pm I have no idea on SVS. What makes them a wolf and not just LHF town?

In all the games I’ve played with SVS, I’ve never heard her called LHF. That’s not who SVS is, historically.

So that in and of itself is concerning

Is she LHF or background as wolf?

Ive not personally seen her be low posting like this to earn a title of LHF but Kate perportrd mmmmngnnnn

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm Kate has done absolutely nothing all day. Like take a look at her ISO. She has contributed nothing townie the entirety of D2 and frankly the entirety of D1 as well. She is coasting by on being toneread as town by someone that knows her D1.

I don't want to vote her out today because I have bigger fish to fry. But please pay attention to her tomorrow, especially if you have KP.

Why not vote her out today? Not just to save my own neck but seriously, you keep saying she has done nothing and then saying "But I will wait till tomorrow"?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:32 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:18 pm @MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

You don't understand the difference between understand and agree? I'm now getting the sense you're doing shit just to incite arguing.

You mean like you're doing here by provoking me with a semantic argument?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:21 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:18 pm @MacDougall I think you're reacting in a big way to Alison's point about Rondo having a slapfight with you. I kind of got her point tbh, not that I entirely agree. But I could see how she would think that. And her characterisation of it is more a manner of speaking.

Explain to me like I'm 5 how you can get her point but not agree. Please.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:01 pm Ffs mac someone needs to throw a shell at you.

Someone needs to stop antagonising me and stop being a fucking hypocrite actually.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:31 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:20 pm Alison characterising my burial of Rondo and his floundering defense as a 1v1 slapfight in which Rondo attempted to bait my vote is utterly egregious and she is now in my scumreads.

Golden attempting to undermine it as even being the main counterwagon is less egregious but equally infuriating and still suspicious.

Kate globbing onto Alison's baseless defense of Rondo predicated on falsehoods is egregious and Kate is also the recipient of a 2 day hall pass granted by Golden she does not deserve.

The wolf dynamic inside of these 3 is off the charts right now. I don't even care about Alison pushing Kate because the way Kate shielded Rondo off the back of Alison doing the same was so scummy it would be a compulsive reaction by Alison to do it.

And Golden failing to comment on it is a bad look too.

Hate all 3 of you. Give me my ball back I'm going home.

What?? I didn't glob onto anything. I was speaking specifically to Alison about an even that occurred between the two of us in the prior game. In effect, I was saying I why I would not vote him because I always wr him and it can't possibly always be w.

You saw her issue a defense of him said yeah and then rambled on with bad reasons to pile more defense on him. That is what you did. You also did what you are describing, with is not refuting what I'm saying it's just explaining what you did and saying you weren't globbing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:26 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:29 pm Oh lol I just realized Scotty and Kate are on the SVS wagon.

Not voting with those two if I can help it. Seanzie it is.

I would NEVER vote for svs if I thought she was civ. Even if I was bad, call it old school, real life friendship whatever... I wouldn't.

If you were a mafia aligned player and "thought SVS was town" you wouldn't vote for her?

What kind of nonsense is this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:20 pm Alison characterising my burial of Rondo and his floundering defense as a 1v1 slapfight in which Rondo attempted to bait my vote is utterly egregious and she is now in my scumreads.

Golden attempting to undermine it as even being the main counterwagon is less egregious but equally infuriating and still suspicious.

Kate globbing onto Alison's baseless defense of Rondo predicated on falsehoods is egregious and Kate is also the recipient of a 2 day hall pass granted by Golden she does not deserve.

The wolf dynamic inside of these 3 is off the charts right now. I don't even care about Alison pushing Kate because the way Kate shielded Rondo off the back of Alison doing the same was so scummy it would be a compulsive reaction by Alison to do it.

And Golden failing to comment on it is a bad look too.

Hate all 3 of you. Give me my ball back I'm going home.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:29 pm Oh lol I just realized Scotty and Kate are on the SVS wagon.

Not voting with those two if I can help it. Seanzie it is.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:33 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:29 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:26 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm Kate has done absolutely nothing all day. Like take a look at her ISO. She has contributed nothing townie the entirety of D2 and frankly the entirety of D1 as well. She is coasting by on being toneread as town by someone that knows her D1.

I don't want to vote her out today because I have bigger fish to fry. But please pay attention to her tomorrow, especially if you have KP.

There's some rather worrisome wordage around her claim. I want people to remember that and pay some attention.

I would be a waste of a lynch bc I'm civ but not a huge loss in terms of role. Plus as you mentioned, my game is shit this game so far.

I haven't called your game shit. I'd encourage you to share more thoughts about the game though, whenever you have them. I understand you suspect SVS and town read Golden. Is there more?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:28 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:00 pm But I also liked mac's wagon analysis that suggests she could be an easy wrong push here so idk

Mac's wagon analysis inherently makes assumptions that I don't think are great ones. There might not be high trust in the people on the SVS wagon but, besides Alison, they are all people who know SVS relatively well and who are good townies when town.

From my perspective that wasn't influential, I think Mac is just not vibing that SVS feels 'caught' but imo if SVS feels 'caught' she's town.

I am paranoid about my own SVS read here because she is sneaky good and I don't wanna be wrong but... I'm feeling good about my vote being there.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:26 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:23 pm Kate has done absolutely nothing all day. Like take a look at her ISO. She has contributed nothing townie the entirety of D2 and frankly the entirety of D1 as well. She is coasting by on being toneread as town by someone that knows her D1.

I don't want to vote her out today because I have bigger fish to fry. But please pay attention to her tomorrow, especially if you have KP.

There's some rather worrisome wordage around her claim. I want people to remember that and pay some attention.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:24 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:39 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:26 am i am vanilla town with an ability

An ability outside of the thread? Is that what you are talking about?

@Kate What did you have in mind here?

@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.

Either a 3p or an ability that doesn't affect game play or does very slightly. One time I played a games, ages ago, where there was a video game of some sort that you could get chosen to play and IF you got the highest score you got some small reward. His comment reminded me of that game specifically.

Why would you assume that, when you yourself claimed vanilla?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:20 pm Why does mafia Rondo get into a slapfight with Mac and put himself at risk instead of just chilling and letting us vote out SVS or Seanzie or whoever?

Maybe Rondo likes slapfighting?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:20 pm Why does mafia Rondo get into a slapfight with Mac and put himself at risk instead of just chilling and letting us vote out SVS or Seanzie or whoever?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:45 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:39 am

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:26 am i am vanilla town with an ability

An ability outside of the thread? Is that what you are talking about?

@Kate What did you have in mind here?

@Kate Can you answer this? I see my mention failed the first time around.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:52 pm Well, this turned out to not be true.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:39 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 pm I just voted Cape90 on the poll, I was thinking I did it 2 hours ago when I posted about it but apparently nope.

@lucy: can you give me your thoughts on him? (particularly his last read list)

Voting in the thread, but not in the poll.

You're wolfing my dude.

I'm at Friday PM now, and they've put forth their first major ping, Creature.

They got between Sabi and Lucy who were kinda "fuck offing" each other. NAI, Marmot's a person who doesn't love conflict, imo.

Made a soft push towards Dennis, but backed off pretty much immediately. Not sure if this is AI or not?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:40 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:38 pm Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

I did agree with Marmot 100% here, I didn't really see it either. *Waits for someone to yell "Pocketing! TMI!" at me.

Someone earlier said that Marmot and Sabi have a sup0er close relationship? They ask Sabis opinion quite a bit, is this NAI given that?

Here Marmot says he's concerned about Sabi, implying Sabi could be bad. I'm guessing that means the same as "worried"?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:54 pm I should do some work

bbl

Sabi if you get a chance could you please take respond to my read questions on Creature and sig? Or point me to your explanations if I missed them. I'm a little concerned about you atm, but I also want to give you space to solve and hope I can find you if you're town.

I just pulled this because Mac called them a "flippin merman" which I found hilarious. A bit later Marmot called Mac a "flippin Mermac" which was also hilarious.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:09 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:06 pm I'm not really feeling a Creature vote atm.

Who else should I vote?

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin merman

Thanks, I'll try.

He made a few temp votes, made a case on Cape. He wishied, he washied, which is not totally fair, since I did pretty much quite a bit of the same, tbh.

All in all, I was fairly convinced by the bit with Neon (who I had forgotten had been a woof in Holes) who came out of it very civ, marmot not so much.

Gonna [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine for now, they haven't been in here all day and I'd like to hear what they say.

@Dyslexicon Sure it's fair. I have been flying low, and not playing at the level I am capable of. Plus I know it's cheesy and weak, two things I dislike, especially in myself, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the massiveness of this thread the first few (calendar) days. I tend to be a meta player, and all the people I didn't know flinging suspish at other people I didn't know for reasons I didn't understand kinda made me freeze a bit. I think I'm starting to find my feet, though.

I'm gonna eat dinner and keep reading, bbl.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:55 am I am seeing alot of this in my read back; what is a "lost wolf"?

I would guess solo baddie waiting to be recruited by a bad team?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:05 am Honestly I think I might push for Rondo to go over here on the strength of Ender's read. I don't have equal confidence in any reads and he definitely vibes as town here.

I am just also rather convinced Seanzie will be a mafia flip also and Nutella has a strong read there plus his wagon is strong.

SVS doesn't feel like a wolf to me. She's too level headed. I don't sense any wolf discomfort with her wagon. Which is something I can see in MR for instance.

I have the opposite takeaway from svs’s cool demeanour. It’s not my memory that town svs has no discomfort from her wagon, she scrambles and reads people with suspicious eyes.

I will say I’ve also been shielding Kate was her quietness is beginning to bother me.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:28 am SVS wagon breakdown

Sloonei ... I feel is likely detached town but he's certainly not out of his known wolfrange. His posts have all had good tone and he seems to lack wolf agenda.

Scotty ... I kinda townread for similar reasons. His play is maybe a bit more of the cavalier style than Sloonei's.

Golden. He's... such a good wolf I just can't shake the suspicion. His justifications for his reads and pushes all make sense they're just ... its like they are sensible but not compelling. Good excuses not actual reasons? And I feel that there's something to be said for the moves he's not making ... such as how he's treating Urist and Rondo. It feels like he's trying to thread a needle of powerwolfing without townsiding or something.

Alison ... like I have maybe a little paranoia here too but it's not as bad as it is towards Golden because her rationalisation feels more reasonable each time. The reasons she's giving for her town and mafia reads are consistently evidence based and in a way that's like "ohhh I see this is fair". Such as her Seanzie shield that if not for said effort providing reason would be driving more paranoia.

Sig and Rondo are like the two slots I just shrug and say "beats me they could flip both ways".

So all up I'm trying to say that this wagon has nearly 6 shrug slots on it. And the chances of those 6 being all town is close to nil to me.

Btw, how does your take on this shift in either direction if SVS flips each of t! and w!?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:16 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:51 am But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Scotty IS so cute for sure, but I feel the opposite. His behavior doesn't seem to be regular scotty behavior. I wish I had read more so I could better express my feelings.

*tap tap tap*

Go on..

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:51 am But mostly I am townreading Scotty because he just has that Scotty vibe ya know. The way Sloonei explained it was very accurate. Like "hey I'm just Scotty going about my Scotty business, sorry not sorry". He's adorable tbh.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm @Kate I encourage you to engage with that same range of pages (around the 110-112 mark) and develop your thoughts around that stuff too.