The Syndicate

Russti, I definitely had a blast in our BTSC chat! You are right, though, it would have been too suspicious for you to just start listing 5 or so names. In that respect I was prepared to just vote for whomever you mentioned and/or voted for. Unfortunately, after you died in that insane blood-bath I had all but given up hope for the Guardian/Cohen alliance. I was looking for the code to show up, but in the wrong places (Dom's posts, and potentially Kate's). I had pegged Hedge early on as a MAC (epic misread) and was hoping she would flip as a disciple. Oh well. Dispite all of those misfortunes I still somehow ended up on top

And using my Cohen persona was definitely the most fun I have ever had when writing or mafiaing!!!
MP: Any chance you could post the Evening With Sander Cohen chatroom somewhere for those curious enough to read through it? I may have accidentally deleted it when clearing out my PMs

I have to say it was a lot of fun tossing around that B for Baddies idea. I didn't think it would actually stick, but it is funny that Bullz and Bea 2.0 ended up being baddies

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:The banners are here!!!!! A huge thanks to Daisy!!

I'm jelly :P

They are pretty sweet!

Spacedaisy wrote:I just realized that this win will push Nev to the top of the rankings in the hall of fame! Man, we should've rethought winning with him...

I didn't realize he had those other wins under his belt! Oh well! He helped us get the rest of the way there. It only made sense that he should win with us

Spacedaisy wrote:I just realized that this win will push Nev to the top of the rankings in the hall of fame! Man, we should've rethought winning with him...

I didn't realize he had those other wins under his belt! Oh well! He helped us get the rest of the way there. It only made sense that he should win with us

indiglo wrote:Wow, but still 4 games? That's pretty amazing! You played great Devin.

I'm always happy to take one for the team. Even if my team goes on to win without me. Though I was a little bummed that it meant I probably wouldn't get to win with you. I'd still do it again in a heartbeat. (Sorry bea! It was purely strategic, NOT personal. And then Russti ends up dying right away... so you just never can have an iron clad plan in mafia I don't think.)

It totally stinks that you can't have a winner's banner, too! You should at least get an honorary Team Cohen banner MP, < This. Now.

bea wrote:and I know I haven't said it yet, but congrats devin. You really did play a great game. The first win is always the sweetest...

Thank you very much! To you and to everyone else!

indiglo wrote:Wow, Devin, that was your first game? I would not have guessed.

I am still really confused, but I enjoyed my team. I had a blast with you guys, and it was so fun to watch the game after I died and see you doing well. (Even if I was a bit confused.)

As Alex and Daisy mentioned, it was not my first game (Alex is correct in saying it was my 4th). But, it was the first game I didn't die really early
And Indi, it was a blast having you on my team, as well! And I want you to know that it was your death that helped us win the game! Had Matahari not NKed you, she would have still had both of her protections at the time of her lynch. So thank you for being the sacrafice that lead to our victory!

Great job, again Alex! Thanks for the amazing game! And take your time on the Bioshock Infinite game. I'm sure it will be beyond epic! Until then I will just use my extra time to replay the actual game

Also, just realized I said I only picked up 2 plasmids in the whole game. It was actually 3 because I also mentioned incinerating INH

I feel bad for Agleaminranks, too! That was a pretty rough way to go. And apparently he died pretty early in the Mario game, too. I can definitely relate to that part. Until this game I have died on the first day/night in ALL of my previous games. So this was a nice change

Also, EBWOP: "believe" was supposed to be in between "can't" and "I" in my last post.

SD did say we were definitely going to try to win with you. But I thought I might as well use the swarm while I had it. That's great that you were willing to take on those odds to win, though!

Mata, you put up a great fight, too! I did start pulling at straws when I was calling you a Guardian And I still can't I only kept my lives because I beat you in a coin toss.

Matahari wrote:

Kate wrote:

Matahari wrote:Thanks daisy! I can't remember for sure, but I think devin might have been the only person I tried to kill twice. I'm not sure, maybe I tried someone else twice, but I can't remember. Who kept blocking me with bees?

Lol, very smart of you, probably saved your life I think I deflected to you once or twice.

It was very lucky that I saved it! I only picked up 2 plasmids during the entire game!
I used the insect swarm on Nev on the very last night... Just in case he did try to kill one of us

And Alex, you did an incredible job reflecting the spirit of this amazing game over to Mafia! Your translation of plasmid usage was brilliant and the tension was so thick at times I could cut it with a knife. Bravo on a job well done Mr. Sock! I look forward to your Bioshock Infinite game!

Snow Dog wrote:

Matahari wrote:Thanks daisy! I can't remember for sure, but I think devin might have been the only person I tried to kill twice. I'm not sure, maybe I tried someone else twice, but I can't remember. Who kept blocking me with bees?

Think I may have done that once

Thank you!

I picked a really good time to use my target dummy, too

FYI, I changed my avatar in honor of an early promise to MP that if I won this game, I would do just that

I can't believe my last guess worked!! You disciples were elusive bastards!

Great game everyone!!! I thoroughly enjoyed playing Sander Cohen!!! I was extremely excited to hear that the randomiser gave me that character because I share MPs love for his insane personality. I also had a ton of fun using my Sander Cohen persona to speak to Jack (Russtifinko) in Fort Frolic (Thanks for playing along Russti!).

I really must apologize to Hedgeowl, though. Had I caught your code to lynch NEv I probably would have done so. But it seems to have worked out better for me this way. I was not at all looking for you or Epi to be Guardians, especially after everyone I had thought to be Guardians and Jack died in that chaotic night. By the way INH that was me who incinerated you, so, sorry

I feel terrible now FH! But not because of who I ended up trusting. Nev knows what he is doing.

I agree. Let's end this thing.

*Votes FH*

Nevinera wrote:I think they're pretty high.

Agreed.

Aces, you played an excellent game!

I have to say I was not expecting to get a unanimous vote out of this.

Mongoose wrote:Well crap on a conveyor belt, Dev! That's crazy. Glad you are okay. That must have been surreal.

It was a bit! I just hope that it wasn't too serious and that there wasn't anyone stuck above us.

Much appreciated Aces!

Nevinera wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote: Nev - You seemed to trust me more than Matahari. Why is that?/quote]

I think I know who you are.
Because of my gut, and not because of any information I might have received.
I was pretty sure before (would have bet the game on it), but Daisy's reaction to the lynch threat makes me pretty confident.

In fact, I think your role at this point is fairly obvious to everyone in the game, and was last poll also.
I would bet that both Aces *and* FH are LMS, as their reasons for voting for you last round are logically very flimsy.
I'm happy to vote for whichever of them you prefer.

Ah Nev, I am happy to see that we are on the same page then. I feel that Aces is the best way to go today.

@Aces - I do apologize for this. There is no ill will coming from my vote today. It is merely strategy.

*votes AceofSpades

AceofSpaces wrote:Judging by DP's recent behavior I wouldn't be surprised if he was the security bot, or even a different splicer. So, I'm not too broken up about his death.

With five people left, we're down to the wire here. I'm feeling good about FH and even Nev. I'm completely unsure about Devin. But, of all the people left, I still feel our best shot is with lynching SD.


@Devin- I was completely confused with what Mata was doing yesterday. Some of her post made me think she was Peaches, and she had information that she just couldn't explain. I had to weight the risk of trusting her vs potentially losing that powerful civie. That combined with the fact that at this point in the game I trust FH's judgement, led me to vote for you. Truth be told, I would have rather gone with SD but that wasn't possible at that point.

A fair statement. Sorry if I delay my full response. The fire alarm lights started flashing in my building and now there are 4 fire trucks outside the building. Stay tuned...

Hi Nev and Aces. What are your thoughts at this point?

Nev - You seemed to trust me more than Matahari. Why is that?

Aces - Same question for exactly the opposite statement?

Flyin' High wrote:RIPIYWG DP.

So now we know that Thuggish Splicer is still alive. And unless DP was the Security Bot that killed Kate we also have at least one Security Bot alive...

I'm really hoping Team ADAM doesn't exist anymore...but that's probably wishful thinking.

Tbh I don't think they are still around. I'm hoping that this isn't wishful thinking on my part as well. I was obviously wrong about Mata regarding that. I should have stuck with original suspicion of her being LMS. I do fear that there are more LMS players alive than previously suspected, though. I am surprised to see Thuggish is still around.

RIPIYWG DP

Sweet! Not quite what I was expecting but I'll take it.

Matahari wrote:Yay, I got back in time! To watch my impending death, lol. Last words of advice, don't limit your reading to the Adams family. And think about two players defending each other, even saying 'lynch me first'!

That's all, and probably, quite enough

This still doesn't make me a baddie.

I don't suppose DPs vote counted?

Flyin' High wrote:Blergh I am not sure what to do.

I was leaning towards voting spacedaisy today but I see no reason to that now since there are only me and Aces left to vote (I'm assuming DP forgot to vote since he said earlier he was voting Mata since he had to go).

I'm going to go out on a limb here and trust Mata...not sure what difference that will make at this point. But *votes Devin* I hope I'm not being hoodwinked.

Egad, endgame makes me so nervous!

I will say it again... It doesn't make any logical sense for me to be Mafia. I am also not a killer.

Heading home from work... hopefully I get there in time to see this unfold

Linki - I swear on the future of my impending marriage that I am not a Baddie.

I'm not quite sure how that happened.

Flyin' High wrote:I'm at a loss here with this vote. The way Devin and spacedaisy quickly voted Mata when she started going against Devin and sort of SD seems like a classic baddie "no u". But there aren't many BTSC options left in this game.

What's bothering me about Mata's push against Devin is that she isn't clarifying who she thinks he's voted along with. At this point in the game, I don't see what the harm is in being more specific, especially if the case is based on thread evidence and voting records.

Aces, Nevinera, what are your thoughts on this?

Because I haven't been purposefully voting with anyone. I believe Mata is threatened by me and, if I am correct, this is because she is a baddie. The way she is going after me is seriously making me think that she is the last (if not one of the last) Guardian (Of course there is no way to know for sure how many have been NKed and how many are still alive). That is the only reason I can see for this sudden attack.

Flyin' High wrote:I'm at a loss here with this vote. The way Devin and spacedaisy quickly voted Mata when she started going against Devin and sort of SD seems like a classic baddie "no u". But there aren't many BTSC options left in this game.

What's bothering me about Mata's push against Devin is that she isn't clarifying who she thinks he's voted along with. At this point in the game, I don't see what the harm is in being more specific, especially if the case is based on thread evidence and voting records.

Aces, Nevinera, what are your thoughts on this?

Because I haven't been purposefully voting with anyone. I believe Mata is threatened by me and, if I am correct, this is because she is a baddie. The way she is going after me is seriously making me think that she is the last (if not one of the last) Guardian (Of course there is no way to know for sure how many have been NKed and how many are still alive). That is the only reason I can see for this sudden attack.

ebwop: Meant to quote Mata's statement directly before the one I actually quoted.

Matahari wrote:I can see lms's getting more bang for the buck by voting me today- so they can say 'oh my- she was right', but if I don't point you guys in the right direction now, I may not get another chance.
Tell me, do you see any civ roles who would defend each other? Because I don't.

I don't believe I was any sort of threat to you at all until you attacked me. I have always thought you to be a civ, Mata, and this vote would not be going against you so far if that didn't happen. I am really sorry it is going this way so far. But if you turn out to be who I NOW think you are, I will not feel as bad.

I am beginning to actually see Matahari as a Guardian seeking revenge. I helped lynch Hedgeowl but so did just about everyone else. But I did lead the charge on Epignosis. Perhaps she is the other Little Sister seeking revenge for her Mr. Bubbles. Maybe. But I definitely think she herself is a killer trying desperately to get rid of someone who is a threat to her (and possibly her team).

I may have to vote now. I have to go make oodles of copies of gargantuan stacks of paper

I am voting for Mata primarily because of her attack on me. I hope to lynch a baddie in the process.
I also hope that the rest of you can at least follow the logic in my self defense. I assure all of you that I am not a killer.

Matahari wrote:Aces, you suspected daisy earlier because of her posts/nonposts, generally flying under the radar? What do you make of her saying that we should lynch her first? Do you see a civvie role who would do that?

Nev, basically same question for you- what has daisy done that would make you trust her? Why would she try to protect devin from a lynch?

Do you see a Mafia role that would say this? Because I don't.

I would like to point out that Team Fontaine is entirely eliminated. They were BWT and BEA. Jack switched teams to the Guardians. They are the only Mafia team left alive. I have now helped to lynch 2 of the Guardians. And you still want to call me a Mafia member? Where is the logic in that?

Matahari wrote:Whoops, apologies! I thought devin was a she. Sorry.

I have mentioned devin and daisy, voting patterns, etc., a few times during the last three game days. I hoped if anyone else noticed something off in his posts( and daisys) that they would chime in, so I wouldn't feel like an idiot. But no one has. So I'm either an idiot or there are more lms left than civs.

Anyhow, I won't make it til the end, so I thought I should take a stand now while I still have the chance.

Mata, I can assure you keeping me alive can only help you win sooner (If you are who I think you are). I am not a killer. I don't even have plasmids that would allow me to kill someone.

Spacedaisy wrote:Devin is a guy.

Thank you for verifying this

Ok that clears up that portion of my confusion Lol. My votes have gone to whomever I feel is a baddie. Obviously I've had more success recently than earlier. I assure you that any voting pattern I've had with any other players (I guess Daisy in this case) is purely coincidental. If you have any hope for the civs to win this game I strongly urge you not to lynch me.

Mata, you're attack on me is giving me the feeling that you yourself are a LMS killer attempting to get rid of a known civ. Before this I had no suspicions of you at all.

Linki: Yes Please.

Matahari wrote:I've read through so many of your conversations, and they are so tricky. Devin, you're playing a very slippery game, and I salute your skills. But I really think youre bad to the core

All the way back to the start of the game, there are examples of interplay between you and a known baddie, and voting with certain players. No one has to believe me, but don't say I haven't warned you guys. I've been bringing her up for awhile now, so I hope someone listens.

What? Now you've really lost me. Who is the known baddie?? Who are you looking at as being my teammate?? I genuinely have no idea.

Matahari wrote:I cant present facts and figures. What I can do is point out some things, that anyone can see in the thread. First, look at who devin voted 'with' every lynch, and read her reply posts (meaning dont just read her powts, read the whole convo between her and others) leading up to each lynch. Devin is a team member, and I don't mean a civvie team. Frankly, there is no way I can win this thing. But I do not want a mafia team to win, so make of this what you will-

Linking/ will read after I post

Again, I am not Mafia. And I am not a killer. I don't know why you would think I am.

Matahari wrote:I agree with aces about daisy. But I also suspect that devin is a killer. I am voting her today. I urge you all to trust my instincts on this.
And no, I'm not speaking of info. I'm speaking of painstaking daily s.s. work.

Umm... Why do you think I'm a killer?? I assure you I have no way of killing anyone except for with my vote. But obviously that doesn't always contribute to kill either. For the sake of making an argument, I was the first person to vote for Epig, so obviously I'm not a Guardian. I also voted for him expecting him to flip LMS and I have just attempted to point out 2 other players who could potentially be LMS. While this doesn't prove that I am not LMS myself, I urge you to trust me on this one. I am not a killer.

@DP - Sorry to hear that! Hope things get better!

@Nev - I'm not sure I understand which plasmid would give the info you seem to have. Unless more is revealed than I suspect by controlling a Big Daddy or a Security Bot.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yes I'm quiet. And I am lost. Family matters left me with so little time earlier that I missed so much and am currently out of it.

I hope they are good family matters! We'd like to get your opinion about what's going on if you ever get the chance, too.