The Syndicate

Pretty damn wild way to lose.

For those not paying attention (just in case it needs to be spelled out):

I voted out Long Con at the last minute.
I voted out pyxxy at the last minute.

Neither of those things would have happened if I were mafia. I would have sealed the deal and ended this so I could move on with my life. I do not drag out games as mafia and everybody here should know that.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:26 pm I followed PA right or wrong idk but it's just a gut call atp

vote epi
Gg

Okay then, never mind.

PA, you're good to take your vote off of me. Nobody is biting.

But for my hand, there are no dead mafia. None.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:55 pm thats my stopper on Epi.

Asking where I posted about delta and my vote and I did mention if I did not vote PA I *would* vote Delta.

He says he did not see it but honestly that was just the last day (24th) so I am wondering with all the work he did why he did not *see* my post.

I asked that before I started reading your posts (which I did from the beginning but stopped about page two or so).

If I were mafia this game would be over by now and I'd have one fewer thing on my plate.

The fact that Nanook was so certain about Delta Day 5 when a mafia victory was at hand but can't do anything now is saying something.

If you are a civilian, do not split the votes. Talk it out if you disagree, but decide firmly on one person. A split vote is a chance to fail.

Yes, Roxy, I am telling you how to play. Deal with it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:14 pm Been kind of busy today, and that's not going to get much better. I need to get my vote off leetic, and I'm going to [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine because they haven't gotten any better in my eyes, slightly worse from their avoidance of the red check gambit. I could vote for Roxy, but some of her reaction just don't fit what I think scum Roxy would play like. Epi put on the blinders and attacked Roxy's content, but maybe the player generating the content is as important as the content itself.

Jack is really turning on the charm here and looking townier than he has all game. Nanook is laying very low and I'm fine with giving him the heave-ho if it comes down to it.

Could Abi be scum? Is that gambit too risky for scum? It might be... I think other players are more familiar with this risky maneuver, such a Abi themselves. What happens when scum try that move?

Not really close to calling leetic scum right now. Or Delta, I don't think Delta's red-check-reaction was all that comparable to pyxxy's, despite the two being regarded similarly.

I'll try to get a few minutes to quick catchup and post before the deadline.

Yeah, it's Nanook.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:23 pm If Nanook flips wolf I was probably wrong on Wilgy. If Nanook flips town I’d kill Wilgy unless there’s significant new evidence.

Thunal had this perspective.

Thunal also had this perspective.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:23 pm Abi, SVS, pyxxy, and Delta are town. If you need to reconstruct the PoE tomorrow then do it, but don’t include those four. Unless there’s significant new evidence I wouldn’t seriously consider them until lylo.

Thunal is still a great player. My only care is what is relevant now. There was a conditional suspicion on Nanook. That still holds.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm sleeping on things always does help me, I should do that more

so I'm at

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm nook - useless, maddening, want to kill out of spite

Yet does not even pick up a knife. Can't find a box cutter. Couldn't be assed to fill the bathtub with water and get the toaster ready.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm delta - VCA looks really bad, but now gameplay looks kinda alright

Look at that. Nanook is useless, maddening, and makes pyxxy want to kill him out of spite.

Delta's gameplay "looks kinda alright."

Guess who got pyxxy's vote yesterday?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm roxy - kinda same post she made, if she's wolfing then hats off because we've all accepted you and hopefully the concussion is getting better

pyxxy knows Roxy isn't mafia.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm epi - the LC bus would just have to be insane and playing that other game with Epi (hk was in it? idr exactly), town vibes are similar

pyxxy knows I'm not mafia.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:15 pm Abigail - well......I do like me some tinfoil

Mafia have to leave some room open for someone. Again, pyxxy made no effort to lynch here, but went to Delta.

Nanook is the final mafia member.

I suppose I carry on.

If you're not conceding, is Roxy mafia or PA?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:25 pm Yeah but in mafia years

Good game dude.

There's also the fact that pyxxy held off on voting Nanook and pretended to have an alarm five minutes prior to voting. Delta's vote was on Nanook. Pyxxy never conversed with Delta about voting Nanook, and instead just voted Delta when it came down to it.

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:59 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:59 pm yeah but I mean, from what I'm seeing you just held until Epi voted, instead of voting nook and seeing if Epi would follow

you talked about this in not leading the thread when Epi asked
I've been on Nook all day???

Nanook is mafia. I am comfortable with that answer.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:01 pm Long Con, last to show! Hi all.
Hey

A spirited welcome to LC. Nothing wrong with that.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:21 pm I guess I should tell everyone I won't be voting Delta bc I have not played with them only hosted.

Or leetic tho they say we played I cba'ed to remember it.

Or linear point bc new to me aficr.

This post occurred Day 1 and Roxy doesn't vote new people (for her) Day 1. Even leetic gave her shit about it and I get it. But even I don't vote new people to The Syndicate Day 1. It's a tradition for us. Come play. Get your feet wet. Getting lynched Day 1 sucks.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:32 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:26 pm ?_? I'm a little spooked by the whole "I wont vote Delta because I've never played with him"

I'd much rather be voted if you think I'm mafia than get a D1 pass because you dont know me because I cant work with just being told 'you're new, you can live' & I dont really want to hear down the line 'I found Delta weird D1 but I gave him a pass :3' since I dont really want to have me being relatively new to the Syndicate being treated as a cop out for giving a read on me

Does that make sense? Idk I'm tired T_T
I'd much rather play my own way if that's OK.

Give me this interaction without the names and I could tell you this is Roxy.

++++

I am going to bypass certain interactions between Roxy and leetic. Moving on.

++++

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:49 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:56 pm psypsypsypsypsythe
Can you, in very simple terms like speaking to my granddaughter simple, explain what this means or is?

This is grandma asking in the thread about bullshit that even I don't get.

Looking back, it appears the intent was comparing leetic to another player named psy (?) which would have been useful discussion in BTSC.

On its own, I view this a non-teammate interaction between Roxy and pyxxy.

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:17 am Thoughts on the thread and some people in it:

Delta sorry but not. I have zero feelings about your alignment you come across as neither town or mafia

leetic got nothing about your alignment even tho you post a lot. Your forcefulness makes me want to read you as bad but I stopped myself just bc your style clashes with mine does not make you bad now if only you could get your townieness to shine through all your posts telling others how to play or what thoughts they should be having or reads they are allowed to have. Maybe try playing *without* telling others how to not play and I may poss see you as town but rn I got nothing. Also if you were a different alignment how would you have opened the game?

SVS really? I do this in almost every game I have ever played way back to our first game on STV. I gave everyone of you from LP a free first day. If I have not played with someone then I free pass them d 1.

Why some may ask...well bc I do not know them nor their style so trying to find them as bad is near impossible for me especially on D 1. Not a good enough reason? Get over it.

Thunal I feel you hiding in plain sight. Too agreeable, too much fence sitting which is something I do not remember you doing before. You vibe and tone read no goodness for me to find.

Epi fourth highest poster at a time that you claim you are busy. I believe in the last game you played the total of posts was wwwaaayyy less than what you have done here. Then say you do not have any real reads. You posted about your Delta vote and not finding the reason for it to finding the reason then going in another direction. Does not scream "hey I am just town Epi". I am not yet sure what to make of your post count yet but I have noted it.

Scotty I actually agreed with your post about leetic's self awareness and really disliked the part about leetic saying that he would have came in with a different opener if he were a different alignment. So far I find you ok.

LP loved how your one post inspired so many others. Opened discussion in a non confrontational way thank you. Can you explain your Pyxxy town read?

Nothing else to say at this moment. I will be around.

Mixed bag here. Might revisit if time permits.

Notable absences include LC and Seanzie (who piped up directly after, and, whether true or not, I appreciate the direct response Roxy gave to Seazie for his absence).

Going to pause here. The most notable takeaway is that I don't see pyxxy and Roxy (too many Xs and Ys) to be teammates in this limited sample.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:51 pm Sleep is pointless at this stage.

Let's try this again:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:34 pm I don't understand Nook's reason for voting Delta.
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm @Roxy Did you say why you were voting Delta? If so, I missed it.
@Roxy
As I said at the time

D1 votecount strongly suggested one in Abby and Delta and I townread abby
It wasn't Day 2. You have so much more to work with than the Day 1 vote count. That's weak.

There were more than two mafia, so your hands weren't tied between those two names.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:11 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:01 pm
Spoiler: show
LinearPoint
4
27%

Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty
2
13%

Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

S~V~S
0
No votes

Voters: None

DrWilgy
1
7%

Voters: pyxxy

Seanzie
0
No votes

Voters: None

Thunal33
1
7%

Voters: Roxy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes

Voters: None

Delta
1
7%

Voters: Scotty

pyxxy
2
13%

Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Epignosis
0
No votes

Voters: None

Roxy
0
No votes

Voters: None

leetic
0
No votes

Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes

Voters: None

Dyslexicon
1
7%

Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes

Voters: None

Unvote
0
No votes

Voters: None

Beans (mod, spec)
3
20%

Voters: Justplayingitcool, iaafr, JaggedJimmyJay

Who subbed in for dizzy? Abby?
................yes
That long ellipsis in response to your question indicates a teammate trying to answer your question while appearing annoyed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:28 pm Ok so I think we basically always need to kill in Abby or Delta today, seems incredibly unlikely that the d1 wagon was pure lol

Still tring Abby so....draw your own conclusions there ig

If there's a reason to clear Delta I'm not aware of please share it (this is an open question)
I am left uncertain as to why it seems incredibly unlikely the Day one wagon is pure, to use your terms. It clearly was unless PA is mafia, something you never considered.

I'm voting [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine.
Shrugze ok boomer

I'm 40, not 60.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:51 pm Sleep is pointless at this stage.

Let's try this again:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:34 pm I don't understand Nook's reason for voting Delta.
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm @Roxy Did you say why you were voting Delta? If so, I missed it.
@Roxy
As I said at the time

D1 votecount strongly suggested one in Abby and Delta and I townread abby

It wasn't Day 2. You have so much more to work with than the Day 1 vote count. That's weak.

There were more than two mafia, so your hands weren't tied between those two names.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:11 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:01 pm
Spoiler: show
LinearPoint
4
27%

Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty
2
13%

Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

S~V~S
0
No votes

Voters: None

DrWilgy
1
7%

Voters: pyxxy

Seanzie
0
No votes

Voters: None

Thunal33
1
7%

Voters: Roxy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes

Voters: None

Delta
1
7%

Voters: Scotty

pyxxy
2
13%

Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Epignosis
0
No votes

Voters: None

Roxy
0
No votes

Voters: None

leetic
0
No votes

Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes

Voters: None

Dyslexicon
1
7%

Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes

Voters: None

Unvote
0
No votes

Voters: None

Beans (mod, spec)
3
20%

Voters: Justplayingitcool, iaafr, JaggedJimmyJay

Who subbed in for dizzy? Abby?
................yes

That long ellipsis in response to your question indicates a teammate trying to answer your question while appearing annoyed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:28 pm Ok so I think we basically always need to kill in Abby or Delta today, seems incredibly unlikely that the d1 wagon was pure lol

Still tring Abby so....draw your own conclusions there ig

If there's a reason to clear Delta I'm not aware of please share it (this is an open question)

I am left uncertain as to why it seems incredibly unlikely the Day one wagon is pure, to use your terms. It clearly was unless PA is mafia, something you never considered.

I'm voting [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine.

Sleep is pointless at this stage.

Let's try this again:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:34 pm I don't understand Nook's reason for voting Delta.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm @Roxy Did you say why you were voting Delta? If so, I missed it.

@Roxy

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:58 pm I'd jump to Nook if you two did.
Epi why didnt you say this sooner ;O;

I've been out in the sun all day man.

Meh, too late to coordinate anything like that.

Although actually a random result would be funny.

I'd jump to Nook if you two did.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:55 pm and that's why I set alarms for deadlines

hello hello, refreshing

You're voting Delta, PA swoops in to break the tie because ties are the devil, and JPIC is either happy or sad that the game is over or still going.

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm And I'm sorry that I have not been very active here and that I understand that might negatively influence whether civilians win.

@Roxy Did you say why you were voting Delta? If so, I missed it.
You're okay

This game has felt like a lot of 'waddle through the votes and hope for the best' so dont stress it ;_;

Appreciate it. Good luck either way.

Thunal even vouched for Delta at one point that I saw, and Thunal's pretty good (and was good, and is dead).

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Yeah, I don't get why Delta has two votes. Delta sounds genuine here, and if I lose to this kind of acting right here in the final ten minutes, I can live with that.

And I'm sorry that I have not been very active here and that I understand that might negatively influence whether civilians win.

@Roxy Did you say why you were voting Delta? If so, I missed it.

Delta, on the one hand, I think your interactions surrounding the one known mafia member (LC) stink. I think you know that much.

On the other, I do not get the impression that you are mafia trying (in this moment) to steer me in any particular direction.

If anything, I appreciate you being proactive and asking me things rather than being reactive.

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:34 pm I don't understand Nook's reason for voting Delta. The interactions between Nook and Long Con were all but nonexistent.
Nook kinda echoes Pyxxy's statement about me/Abi being an opposite check which is just taking both pushes today and opting to try 'resolve' them which sucks because I think Abi is town

Feels just very opportunistic because I dont really get how we became an opposite check to begin with ;_;

Well, the issue with that is there is no such thing as an "opposite check" today assuming two living mafia members.

The thing about that though is that Nook looks distracted rather than seeking to push an agenda. I'd think a mafia Nook would do... I don't know. Something.

I don't understand Nook's reason for voting Delta. The interactions between Nook and Long Con were all but nonexistent.

I'm here and will vote before the deadline (probably poorly).

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:13 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:37 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:00 pm
Spoiler: show
S~V~S
2
13%

Voters: Roxy, Long Con

DrWilgy
1
6%

Voters: Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33
0
No votes

Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes

Voters: None

Delta
0
No votes

Voters: None

pyxxy
0
No votes

Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes

Voters: None

Roxy
0
No votes

Voters: None

leetic
1
6%

Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Long Con
4
25%

Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, Delta, leetic

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail
1
6%

Voters: pyxxy

Jackofhearts2005
2
13%

Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, DrWilgy

Unvote
1
6%

Voters: S~V~S

Beans (mod, spec, dead etc)
4
25%

Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty, Seanzie, Justplayingitcool

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:11 am I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:29 pm Vote Wilgy

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:43 pm
It's probably not Jack though

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:57 pm Vote Jack

Vote [VOTE: PA] aubergine

Done with this foolishness.
Cry more rands are stupid and I won't let them happen they give us no info

Voting Delta

I don't understand what "cry more rands are stupid" means.

If, as I understand, you are opposed to random polls (due to ties), what information you have you gained so far?

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:35 pm My thoughts INRE: PA/Dizzy

If I remember right - Dizzy *hates* being a baddie. Day 1 all she kept saying is - I need to live to D 2
Why - so she could get replaced.

PA joins and their first post says - Leetic is bad bc I got a red check. And completely wasted a huge part of an elim bc people were focused on a townie. She then takes complete credit for the LongCon elim like she alone is the reason it happened when that is *SO* far from the truth. Her red check was totes unhelpful to the town. It is a really unusual way to prove your townie-ness by faking a red check on a townie wasting the majority of an elim then taking credit for other people suspicions.

She then proceeds playing by saying I am not reading anything and then their game has proceeded as: These are my reads for NO apparent reason. I'll not respond in any sort of helpful manner instead I just say vibes and bc I don't want to/feel like it.

Exasperating for a town to act this way.

All the town has is thread talk and the elim yet they do nothing to help and only comes out of the woodwork when they get heat.

Bad behavior for a town but great if you are bad.

It is where I will be voting.

How I've felt.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:41 pm Epi - are you partnered with LC? Idk. I don't think so I'm such a bad reader of you I feel like I can't even try.

But yeah I feel you as town. Right or wrong gg buddy.

Wish I was. Would be winning right now.

So I need to work out Delta / pyxxy /Nanook

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:20 am viewtopic.php?t=2545

Here

2 days of me screaming about how Rem was town and I solidified her death.

I looked that over.

Jesus, that feels like ages ago.

But you did there what you are doing here.

I hate it. I despise it. I don't like your play.

But I'll allow it.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:53 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine
PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?
it's a mess

the VCA is helping clarify things for me, e.g. why wouldn't scum Abigail just stick on me and not move to nook, or just let it rand and not bring up caring about ties

it made me remember previous games with her where she similarly messed around with votes at EOD for reactions _and_ to avoid a tie

and it would be so blatantly "saving" her scummate nook that like. why not kill Delta then? a hardcore nook voter? and just try to slam Roxy through today?

killing SVS, a Roxy defender, seems like partially down that path, that's one thing I'm not sure what to do with

You are missing my point.

PA is defending players in one breath and then voting those same players out when it matters.

What is your interpretation of that? Is PA a civilian?

@Delta
@Roxy

My current view is to vote PA. If the civilians do not stick together, we lose.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:53 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine
PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?
it's a mess

the VCA is helping clarify things for me, e.g. why wouldn't scum Abigail just stick on me and not move to nook, or just let it rand and not bring up caring about ties

it made me remember previous games with her where she similarly messed around with votes at EOD for reactions _and_ to avoid a tie

and it would be so blatantly "saving" her scummate nook that like. why not kill Delta then? a hardcore nook voter? and just try to slam Roxy through today?

killing SVS, a Roxy defender, seems like partially down that path, that's one thing I'm not sure what to do with

We are beyond reactions. We are in "votes matter" mode. PA is voting opposite at the last minute based on what PA said. PA is full of shit and needs to go.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?

Delta, I feel like mostly you're just restating things you see. I'm not sure what you want me to comment on.

PA didn't vote LC, claimed Wilgy was good but voted Wilgy, claimed Jack was good but voted Jack.

Frankly, I'd rather lose to anybody else than that.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:06 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:41 pmhihi Epi o/
Hey D. Be back in a couple of hours.
\o/ when you're back can you look over what I've said so far and tell me what you think?

tyty

Sure, anything you write I'll look over it.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:41 pmhihi Epi o/

Hey D. Be back in a couple of hours.

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