The Syndicate

LittleTiger wrote:
Also, who killed me? And why?

I think rey did it. I think we were debating between you and Roxy.

Seems like Roxy would have been the better choice!

So my vote was worth two because I got the "correct" option for my alignment?

I honestly just voted because I like boats.

Ninja'd by Kate. Got it!

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Because i seriously thought you were recruited due to your seemingly anti town actions, in my eyes. I did NOT think Elo was bad, yet you called for her to be NKed, I was not bad, yet you came back from your rezz screaming that i was. You acted in a very baddie way, which is why i thought you were recruited.

Alex, i know my actions are not logical in games, and often perplex you, but you have to stop construing different from you as bad. I will never play a logical game as you do. That does not make me a baddie in every game we play.

Those were not a baddie way though, I was civvie all the way through. It's funny because everything you just said here could be applied with your reads on me. Apparently you still think my behavior this game was baddie, but seeing as though I wasn't a baddie at all, that makes your argument on that front null.

I did realize your actions to be civvie for most of the game after I initially called you out. You went after me for much longer than I went after you, truth be told. But hey, I guess you insanifying me was kinda good, because I didn't have to make a full-on case on BWT, I could kind of disguise it through insanification, so thanks. Haha.

Let's just agree to the fact that we apparently can't read each other at all, lol.

You were the worst civilian player I ever saw. Hence why boogs killed you.

Your treatment of me, though correct in the end, was WRONG for many reasons. Your belligerence was silly.

And I saw it punished.

Well, thanks, I truly appreciate that.

Your accusation of me was absolutely bereft of logic, just like your accusation of Elohcin and SVS. You misquoted me. You took my words out of context. You made things up. Am I right?

You didn't deserve to win. So I saw you killed for that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Because i seriously thought you were recruited due to your seemingly anti town actions, in my eyes. I did NOT think Elo was bad, yet you called for her to be NKed, I was not bad, yet you came back from your rezz screaming that i was. You acted in a very baddie way, which is why i thought you were recruited.

Alex, i know my actions are not logical in games, and often perplex you, but you have to stop construing different from you as bad. I will never play a logical game as you do. That does not make me a baddie in every game we play.

Those were not a baddie way though, I was civvie all the way through. It's funny because everything you just said here could be applied with your reads on me. Apparently you still think my behavior this game was baddie, but seeing as though I wasn't a baddie at all, that makes your argument on that front null.

I did realize your actions to be civvie for most of the game after I initially called you out. You went after me for much longer than I went after you, truth be told. But hey, I guess you insanifying me was kinda good, because I didn't have to make a full-on case on BWT, I could kind of disguise it through insanification, so thanks. Haha.

Let's just agree to the fact that we apparently can't read each other at all, lol.

You were the worst civilian player I ever saw. Hence why boogs killed you.

Your treatment of me, though correct in the end, was WRONG for many reasons. Your belligerence was silly.

And I saw it punished.

Lordy I was all kinds of wrong on this one! Well done Andrew and Kate!

By the way, Mr. Andrew, I lost sleep over your game. Well done sir! I had a really good time.

I had a feeling I would be lynched early on, so I tried to take as many civilians down with me.

Flyin' High wrote:EBWOP: toes=hope, no idea how that happened because I don't even use a smartphone. I'll blame it on the post-migraine wonkiness.

Your post made perfect sense without the "edit," especially if you are super superstitious.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:And what about llama?

I think that guy is definitely on the level.

Or maybe you mean he'll BE leveled.

Boogs wrote: Guys what are your thoughts on Rogue?

Good looking for a girl you can't touch.

indiglo wrote:Welcome to the zombie bar, Elo and He-Man.

I'm buyin'.

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote: Woo-Hoo! Let's get those baddies! Bye-bye Epi!

Sorry honey.

This is what happens when husbands and wives share computers.

No my dear. This is what happens when you don't log in yourself and just hop on and go to town.

Woo-Hoo! Let's get those baddies! Bye-bye Epi!

Sorry honey.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Your happy faces here seem like evil death faces from hell, you know, when someone truly evil is trying to be overly nice. "I wasn't trying to convince you, now was I?" you say, as you smile, shaking my hand, and then STAB.

I meant what I said. I literally was not trying to convince you. Your mind was already made up, remember?

You poor puppet.

MovingPictures07 wrote: This is absolutely absurd. Seems you've taken pretty much every page out of the "I'm a baddie backed into a corner" book. It's a nice attempt, but every single thing you've posted since I've called you out as baddie has been clearly baddie behavior on your part. If you flip civvie, well, it will be reminiscent of when some newbies played civvie roles absolutely crazily the first time in Avant 2 (Droopy lynch comes to mind, but even he was acting way less suspicious than all the stuff you've thrown out), but I very highly doubt it.

I wasn't trying to convince you, now was I?

MovingPictures07 wrote: I pull this same crap when I'm baddie and I feel I'm unfairly lynched. It's not because you participated, actually, it's more because you failed to participate. Next time try seeming more like a civvie trying to catch baddies when you're baddie instead of NO U'ing.

I know what you pull, and I don't need advice from you.

I'm voting again for the thellama73.

Nice knowing you Logan.

All aboard! The "baddie bandwagon" is leaving the station!

LittleTiger wrote:I am going to vote Epignosis - I think the case against him is strong and his recent supposition that MP could be any role, other than the one we know he is, was a weak attempt to save himself.

Actually, it wasn't. I really think there is more going on than a confirmed civilian got resurrected.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yeah, I'm really not liking these recent happenings so...

votes Epi

Well that's really descriptive of you.

It's in keeping with everything else he's said so far this game. I don't know why people are so intent on giving him a free pass when he refuses to participate.

I am getting lynched BECAUSE I participated. Now I know better. Just remain quiet. Poke your head in every now and then and nod. You'll at least make it to Day 2 or 3 because it's "bad form" and really suspicious to vote off the quiet ones.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yeah, I'm really not liking these recent happenings so...

votes Epi

Well that's really descriptive of you.

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:@Epi. I think that's rather a briliant idea. I guess anything is possible in these games. I was actually thinking if such a thing might be possible earlier. But what about the real Character that MP is supoposed to be...ax was it?

According to the Day 1 lynch, he was revealed to be the Full Iron Armor.

And if this is the case, then that means the real Full Iron Armor is around here and knows I'm right too.

Snow Dog wrote:I thought of a flaw Rob. herbivore or whatever killed on night 1 after MP was lynched....so how could he?

Herbivore.

If him being the Armor was a charade, perhaps being dead was too.

Or it may be that Herobrine resurrected and recruited MP.

What I'm saying is that MP isn't acting like I know him to act, especially on a Day TWO. I don't think he's on our side anymore, if he even was in the first place.

Has anyone NOT posted since Mp's lynch?

I'm folding towels at the moment, but I can check after that.

Snow Dog wrote:@Epi. I think that's rather a briliant idea. I guess anything is possible in these games. I was actually thinking if such a thing might be possible earlier. But what about the real Character that MP is supoposed to be...ax was it?

According to the Day 1 lynch, he was revealed to be the Full Iron Armor.

And if this is the case, then that means the real Full Iron Armor is around here and knows I'm right too.

Snow Dog wrote:I thought of a flaw Rob. herbivore or whatever killed on night 1 after MP was lynched....so how could he?

Herbivore.

If him being the Armor was a charade, perhaps being dead was too.

Or it may be that Herobrine resurrected and recruited MP.

What I'm saying is that MP isn't acting like I know him to act, especially on a Day TWO. I don't think he's on our side anymore, if he even was in the first place.

Let me ask everyone a question before you take a chip off my block.

If MP were not revealed to be the Armor- in other words, if he had not been lynched- would you believe him? Would you trust him?

I've never participated in a Mafia event with him, but I'm telling you, even outed as a civilian, he isn't acting like a civilian. He's acting wildly. Ask yourself:

1. How is he so certain of himself on Day 2 when he was dead on Night 1?
2. Why is he so desperate to get everyone to believe him and telling them to "just trust" him?
3. Why is he twisting my words around?

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There's been so much talk about Zombies and Mafia that hardly an eye has turned to the question of Herobrine. I want to do that, and then I want to raise a theory or two that I have.

All of the role descriptions have something to do with the actual object / entity represented in the picture. Armor protects people. The Golem blocks. The potion practices chemistry. Etc. I take it that Herobrine is no exception.

Herobrine "looks like Stevie." What if he can look like something else? I did some reading and found out he doesn't even exist in Minecraft. He's more of a hoax. He's retextured objects. Suppose he can, upon being lynched the first time, look like armor, and then come back? When I try to consider secret roles, I ask myself, "If I were designing this, what power would I give this role?" And I think that's what I would do- make Herobrine look like something he isn't.

And we were not told that the Cow resurrected MP.

I think MovingPictures07 is Herobrine or has something to do with Herobrine.

Crazy theory, but I'm in good company with it.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I say we lynch Epignosis over Elohcin just because he was the one with the most votes yesterday and because llama already has 2 votes and Epig has 1. it really doesn't matter, but I think we need to decide on one of them and just go with it, so I say Epig. But it doesn't matter. You guys decide, I'll be back to vote later, because I really need to study without a distraction for a few hours, but I couldn't help coming back to look, lol.

Wait a minute.

Now who is squashing discussion?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can't you even recognize that the facts seem to indicate that you are very likely baddie here? How can I be deliberately twisting your words any more than you are mine? You never said it was about Snow Dog and Rox's exchange originally, you didn't mention their names in that post, correct?

I believe it's very clear from the context, and even if it was not, the burden of proof is on you to show how I was "squashing discussion" by that comment. I didn't tell anyone else they had to dismiss anything.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I love how you still haven't addressed to elaborate on your thoughts as to why He-Man and llama are truly worthy of votes. I realize you have your original posts. So what say you? Do you still think they're worthy of a vote? If you're a civvie then and I'm so wrong, who should we be voting for?

Some of us like to think a while before we post.

Then there are others who like to post. A lot.

I am reconsidering my suspicion of thellama73 since He-Man does not appear in the poll. The Wolf could have switched the Aether Portal's target. So I don't know.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
If you aren't baddie, then you must have been framed, right? How could you not know that? You ignored to answer that question when I just asked it before, so how about I ask it again?

I don't have to answer any of your questions (especially when there are fourteen hundred of them, and half of them would get a failing grade for reading comprehension skills).

Draw your own conclusions.

Oh, that's right, you already have.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I have to go study now

Thank God.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, Robert, what the hell was that, your theory about He-Man trying to get votes? Can you address that nonsense for me? How did you come to that genius conclusion?

I never said He-Man was trying to get votes. I felt he was trying to get MY vote. Big difference.

And I explained that already. In fact, you quoted it in your tirade against me.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Then he says:

Epignosis wrote:

He-Man wrote:Roxy I am precious lol also epig made that comment about making him vote me not snow dog

Epig llama had enough attention you had none he was trying to take heat off of him you made your comment to blend. This is why I aimed my suspicion at you and not llama

I think you and thellama73 are together. I think you wanted to absorb my vote, since he had, in your own words, "enough heat."

If you're bad, there's no such thing as enough heat.

Now he says He-Man and llama73 are together. Again he never address anything directed about him.

You may be civilian, but you have a strange agenda, and you are deliberately twisting my words to advance it (like still saying I tried to "squash discussion" when I dismissed only Snow Dog and Roxy's exchange regarding who implied what- nothing more).

thellama73 wrote: What say you about the uncharacteristic chilliness between us in this game, Rob?

I wouldn't say there's a chilliness between us- I've just never played one with you before. I haven't been chummy with anyone in this thread, I don't think.

A minute for rebuttal, MP?

I hope I can change your mind.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Because it's clear to me what's going on here and you are not changing my mind at all.

Oh.

Well then...I guess what I have to say is for the benefit of the rest of the jury.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
1. He pushed for ship. I realize I was considering all options earlier, but now that I strongly believe ship was the baddie option, this is notable. Especially since Elohcin also voted for ship and her behavior is even more suspicious (more on her in a bit).

Yes I did. So what? No one has demonstrated that the ship was a bad choice. Or that the house was a good choice.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
2. He pulls a NO U on He-Man when He-Man calls him out, and since has been trying to paint He-Man still as bad, in addition to an easy scapegoat (llama73). This is classic baddie behavior, guys, I’ve been in enough mafia games and been baddie enough to know.

He-Man flipped out against me after I considered voting for a low poster. thellama73 actually VOTED for a low poster. He-Man condemned him not at all, but still was set against me. Yet he had the nerve to call me a hypocrite.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
3. I asked him earlier in Day 1 to contribute his thoughts regarding everything. He ignores me. In fact, he refuses to say anything about anyone specifically in this game until he has his go-around with He-Man, and now about llama73. His post analyzing where his vote probably would go with the moderate-low posters deal? It’s called setting up your vote. I do this as a baddie all the time, I try to weigh the options in the thread and set up a future vote.

Oh, I ignored you. Let's see.

viewtopic.php?p=13614#p13614

It's patently untrue that I ignored you. In fact, it was my response to you (and thellama73 in the same post) that led to He-Man's wild accusation against me.

MovingPictures07 wrote: 4. He refuses to defend himself.

What would you have me say?

If I say, "Don't lynch me, I'm a civilian," people say, "Yeah right, typical baddie behavior!"
If I say, "I was framed!" people say, "You're just saying that because you're a baddie and want us to believe that!"
If I say, "S~V~S was targeted to make me look bad," people say "WIFOM and I'm not buying it, baddie!"
If I say, "Elohcin and I do not have BTSC," people say, "Yeah right, baddie! Look at how she follows you around like a duckling baddie!"
If I say, "He-Man was being inconsistent in Day 1," then you say, "He pulls a NO U." (whatever that is)

There is absolutely nothing I can say that will serve as a satisfactory defense. One cannot break wind without drawing suspicion.

MovingPictures07 wrote: 5. He definitely had the most votes yesterday and should have died. Yet he didn’t. There’s no way he’s Diamond Sword and I very, very highly doubt he is being framed.

No, I'm not Diamond Sword.
I don't know if I'm being framed.

MovingPictures07 wrote: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=129&p=13598#p13598 Here she says it’s difficult to know who to lynch. Now why doesn’t S~V~S get on HER for squashing discussion? Double standard much?

Ah, I see. You can call someone out for double standards, but when I do, it's a "go-around with He-Man."

MovingPictures07 wrote: And well, Elohcin and Epignosis were very clearly squashing discussion as well, correct?

I was "very clearly squashing discussion?" Where?

MovingPictures07 wrote: Epignosis dismissed all the Day 0 talk whatsoever as "bickering" and "red herring".

That is also untrue:

Epignosis wrote: All what other stuff going on? The bickering about whether or not something was implied regarding a Day 0 poll? I dismissed that like the red herring it was.

I dismissed Snow Dog and Roxy's flare up over implying something regarding the house, not "all the Day 0 talk whatsoever."

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All this is to say that your lengthy observations are based on three things: 1. Unproven assumptions (i.e., the Ship was bad), 2. Things that are demonstrably untrue (i.e., that I ignored you, that I was squashing discussion, that I dismissed all Day 0 discussion), and 3. People behaving like you when you play a bad role.

It sounds like you have your mind made up, and now you are just wresting posts (or unashamedly making things up) in order to garner support.

I swear Alex, if I didn't know you were civilian, I'd likely be voting for you.

MP, I am glad you are back. While your ability is valuable, I think your insights are more valuable, especially now that we KNOW you are a civilian.

No apologies necessary, Ms. Kate.

He-Man wrote:Roxy I am precious lol also epig made that comment about making him vote me not snow dog

Epig llama had enough attention you had none he was trying to take heat off of him you made your comment to blend. This is why I aimed my suspicion at you and not llama

I think you and thellama73 are together. I think you wanted to absorb my vote, since he had, in your own words, "enough heat."

If you're bad, there's no such thing as enough heat.

He-Man wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Going to bed now but I wasn't really here at the end i was watching The Dark Night. Amazed I wasn't lynched but glad I'm not.

Never thought MP or Epignosis were bad but hard to tell. Not convinced Llama is bad either. Had to decide between voting He Man and reywaS and chose the latter.

Snow Dog, my gut is still slightly civ on you, but things like this in the thread look really bad to me. Really, you weren't here at the end despite being the last vote? And I understand you not seeing llama or Epi as particularly bad, but it is strange to me that your top 2 candidates were both players you had had personal arguments with before. I know you were very busy with them, but none of the other discussions going on gave you any ideas whatsoever? Beware tunnel vision when things get personal.

He-Man, the vote order is on page 11, I believe. Roxy posted it. Do you have any suspicions besides Epi at the moment? I know you're convinced he's bad, and he may well be, but I'm a bit worried about tunnel vision there as well.

Linki with snowie: that's fair about your vote. I sympathize with wanting to protect yourself. Anything about rey's behavior (votes etc) ping you besides the fact that he was suspicious of you?

His vehement attack on me in defence of Roxy seemed like he was likely bad to me, but He-Man even more so. His case against Epi seems to me to be a bit crazy. Comparing his playing this game to hoew he mod's another? Come on.

Epig was the top voter for many reasons yet you failed to see any of them? I never went after him because he was playing with the idea of low posters I we t after him because with all the other stuff going on he went after low posters in day one seemed a cop out to me and one he likely thought would bring him no trouble. It stuck out as has many of his posts since.

Like why would I want epig to vote me?

All what other stuff going on? The bickering about whether or not something was implied regarding a Day 0 poll? I dismissed that like the red herring it was.

thellama73 mentioned voting for a low poster well before I did, and then actually voted for a low poster (with a ridiculous reason- see below). You didn't go after him. When I asked why, this is what you said:

He-Man wrote: He has enough heat I don't buy snow dog llama or Roxy are bad tbh, I think it's civvie on civvie.

So breaking it down, according to you:

1. thellama73 had "enough heat" that you gave him a pass
2. You didn't think that Snow Dog, thellama73, or Roxy are bad, yet here you are criticizing me for not taking into account "all the other stuff going on." Again I ask, what other stuff was I not considering?
3. thellama73's reason for voting for a low poster- actually voting- not just trying to get people to speak up, was this:

thellama73 wrote:I have made up my mind. I'm voting for DisgruntledPorcupine. Why? Because my gut tells me to and because of the reasons I previously outlined for suspecting low posters. How can he be disgruntled and yet also be a porcupine? It makes no sense!

*Votes DP*

Just prior to this wild vote, you posted this to me:

He-Man wrote: Out of all the people who were in the lime light you didn't want to go there, instead you went for the people who you thought we're not going to defend themselves. This on its own speaks volumes to me.

And again, not a word about Logan's vote.

And you've the nerve to call me a hypocrite.

He-Man coming after me and not thellama73 smells fishy to me. I was set to vote him, but I'm so uneasy about it. It was almost like he wanted me to vote for him.

Russtifinko wrote:Ugh, so much going on....

*Voting llama* because his vote for DP without responding to my concern about his train of thought pinged me like crazy. I think a number of the other suspicions going around have merit, but for now that was what got me the most.

That bothered me as well. I listed people, yes, but I said I wanted to hear what they had to say. I wanted to spur conversation (and we got that in spades, I think- good grief!).

I'm going to go with you on this, Russ, and vote for thellama73.

indiglo wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:I am suspicious of a few people right now, but given the epic craftiness of MP as a baddie, the fact that I am pinged by his posts - my vote has to go to him. I cannot let him pull the sock wool over my eyes in yet another game. So, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a fox, wears socks, then it is probably a baddie....

vote Movingpictures07

LT, that's a good point. I'm weighing that against the fact that Epig saw his name come up and saw some votes go down for him, and remained quiet... that strikes me as quite odd, though it's possible he didn't have more computer time after doing his Host Post for MOTU. So I'm going to give it a bit longer and see what happens.



Linki w/Rey - I was going to try to avoid that conversation on account of the 7 (almost 8) year old eyes that are roving about this game.

I played Scrabble (my son and I won by over 100 points ), went to buy beer, and then got dinner started. I'm catching up now.

Salmon with a Bechamel sauce over rice by the way.

Elohcin wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:By the way...is there a more efficient way to find the low posters other than going to each player and clicking "In Topic" under their name to see how many times they have posted?

Yes, go to The Side Mission subforum (click it at the top of the page, next to Mafia). Then under REPLIES, click the total post number there and it will show everyone who has posted and how many times.

Thank you so much, Alex. That settles it. I am voting Juliets then, lowest poster.

ORLY?

He-Man wrote:
First you go after low posters

Then pulled on it you pull a switcheroo.

Not cool.

What?

He-Man wrote:

Epignosis wrote: Out of all the people who were in the lime light you didn't want to go there, instead you went for the people who you thought we're not going to defend themselves. This on its own speaks volumes to me.

So did thellama73. You didn't say a word to him.

I have several very good reasons not to punish people in MOTU, as you will see in the post game discussion. That doesn't make me a hypocrite. It makes me a Host who is aware of his own game's mechanics.

He-Man wrote:
@snow dog, I said epig was being hypocritical because he is willing to punish the low posters in this game but not the game he is hosting. I find it strange. I realise its still continuing a cant really be discussed but since its obvious I felt a need to say it.

So epig why punish the low posters in this game all of a sudden?

Linki

Comparing how I elect to Host and how I vote in a Day 1 lynch poll? Really?

Here is what I find interesting:

thellama73 mentioned voting for a quiet person before I did, yet you didn't accuse him of anything.

thellama73 wrote:My real worry is that the baddies are laying low and letting the civs bicker amongst ourselves. With that in mind, I am tempted to vote for a low-poster. I will wait and see how the discussion goes tomorrow before coming to any conclusions, though.

I post a list of low posters that I am only considering and you come flailing out of the woodwork.

That reeks of desperation.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Dead Stevie was a n00b then?

Er...so am I. My brains would have been on the buffet too, so RIP Stevie.

Does this mean another choice might have been superior? I don't know. I am considering the idea that Stevie would have died no matter what, and that this was merely (or mostly) a matter of choosing how. A way to spur discussion. But Kate said there is info, so that must be taken into consideration.

What are your thoughts, Robert, on how Day 0 went down? Do you think anyone (or more than one player) seemed to be pushing any particular option in a way that caused you to notice as suspicious?

Based on the comments of those who know Minecraft, I'm inclined to think most folks genuinely believed the House was the best choice for us.

Here are my general observations:

1. Bandwagons are the bread and butter of evil. It removes the burden of proof from them, because they can conveniently point to the case everyone else made.

2. On Day 1, a civilian will almost always vote first.*

3. We are statistically likely on Day 1 to lynch a civilian, unfortunately. In a sense, a Day 1 mislynch is a civilian gambit: We lose one of our own to gain a contextual insights.

4. We are almost certain to lynch a civilian anyway because the Zombie can play the old switcheroo on us. (I am correct in assuming that's what "switch one lynch during the game" means, right?)

*Of course, now that I've said that, I've opened the possibility of that not being the case, but it is a corollary of point #1, I should think.

thellama73 wrote:Sorry for the triple post, but I had one more thought before bed.
FACT: the baddies have BTSC.
FACT: This little snit we have going on started off between Roxy and Snow Dog, was joined by me and finally grew to include S~V~S.
QUESTION: why would an intelligent baddie willingly leap into a conflict between civvies and risk implicating himself when it would be far easier to lie back and let the civvies lynch each other? And wold he not, realizing this, advise his comrades to do the same?
CONCLUSION: I am at this point less likely to suspect Snow Dog, Roxy and S~V~S than I am those who have largely avoided the topic, and I hope others will follow my reasoning and see that I would have to be more stupid than I like to think I am to insert myself between Roxy and Snow Dog if I were in fact bad.

Goodnight.

Were I a gambling man (and I am), and I had to wager the contents of my wallet ($15 and a coupon for a free waffle), I would bet that much of the evil may be found in the moderate-to-low posters (say, 2-5 posts). That's excluding Mr. Sock, because he's noisy no matter what.

Bad folks know that, generally speaking, a conflict of any sort provides the impetus for a lynch. For that reason, I am not comfortable lynching Day 0 disputers. The prospect smells bad- bad and convenient.

The moderate posters include DisgruntledPorcupine, Ambray, LittleTiger, >SpaghettiEverywhere, indiglo, He-Man, Elohcin, & Russtifinko. I think that's everyone. If I don't hear from these people this morning, and barring further developments, that is likely where my vote is heading.

Dead Stevie was a n00b then?

Er...so am I. My brains would have been on the buffet too, so RIP Stevie.

Does this mean another choice might have been superior? I don't know. I am considering the idea that Stevie would have died no matter what, and that this was merely (or mostly) a matter of choosing how. A way to spur discussion. But Kate said there is info, so that must be taken into consideration.

S~V~S wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:

S~V~S wrote:@ Snow~ generally Day Zero is a pregame, no kills is pretty standard. I have not played every game ever played, but I myself do not ever recall an NK in a Day or Night Zero phase that I have played.

@ FH~ I am clueless about what can happen to mobs in water. What makes me leery of ship is the sailing off the edge of the world thing mentioned in the host post.

For what it's worth, there is no "edge of the world" in Minecraft--new chunks spawn as you move through the world so there is always more to explore. Basically think of it as a giant, ever-expanding sandbox.

This may well be true, I don't know. i do know that the host specifically said you could sail off the edge of the flat world, so perhaps there is significance in that. It did not sound very positive to me.

The "host " never said much of anything. Most of this was dialogue.

Regarding the bank, they said they had no currency. I doubt that is true. Anything valuable is effectually currency.

Regarding the ship, it could indicate that the Stevies are no more geologically aware of their world than pre-Magellan peoples.

Regarding the home, well, "Stevie just shrugged."

Kate wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I think Logan was referencing the Stevies' general disinterest in profitable labor.

OH, LOL...ok! But we can still get things going if everyone wants to

That suits me.

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I think Logan was referencing the Stevies' general disinterest in profitable labor.

Someone could tell me that evil vultures will spawn on the Ides of March and swoop down and peck out your eyes if you are at sea when the sun is at its zenith, and I'd probably believe that person.

I am woefully ignorant of Minecraft.

blindfaeth wrote:Oh u know when I read the host post I didn't even see where they debated over working on the home. I thought we were choosing between the bank and ship. Well I've played this game once with my friend Desiree and I remember home was where you wanted to be at nighttime. She had suggested I build one in the side of the mountain until I had enough resources to build a home. Anyway, at night all the creepy things like zombies came out and they didn't bother me as I was behind a closed door, but they were definitely waiting for me to come outside. That being said and since its "night" 0 I'm leaning towards voting for home at this point.

Hey birdwithteeth- THERE'S the information I should've waited for. Zombies come attack you at night? And you're safe in your house?

I had heard of Minecraft, but I sorta likened it to Sim City or something. I thought one had to build the zombies or the monsters. I didn't know you got assaulted by the undead.

Can zombies swim though? If they can't get through your door, my guess is no.