The Syndicate

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:12 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:11 pm eva is scum?

epignosis is scum?

still all possible
Pointless post. It's Day 1. What isn't possible?

You are bad too.
In the meantime, I am rescinding this view.

Instead of making this about himself, iaafr pressed me on my opinion of nutella.

iaafr is a civilian.
What's your read on Benson?

Illiterate. I will look.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:55 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
You are mafia.
I agree.
How fun. I just called 112 a good guy.
How fun. Was just considering lynching you D1.
and Epi town is my #1 strongest read atm

So far my nutella reading hasn't been useful. Then I came to this.

I do not get lynched often, but historically, nutella has had my number whereas I surely have not had hers. I don't know what it is, but she calls me out one way or the other early. She is usually correct.

That said, I cannot fathom why I would be her strongest civilian person at that time. As I said, she's usually right about me. I don't know how that is, but it is so.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:25 am Creature is town. Jack is also town and just has good reads, not TMI.

Come the fuck at me bro.

iaafr, one of your grievances with nutella was this:

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:01 pm she is incapable of producing independent thoughts

an alarmingly high proportion of her takes are about clearly extant dichotomies/trichotomies and a lot of it feels fencesitty or "im currently leaning this way" with no apparent drive to get to a conclusion on her own

she feels disconnected and disengaged in a scummy way

the thing she seems to feel strongly about are probably TMI

I've seen many independent thoughts here.

Any Syndicate member (or nutella herself) could tell you that nutella sits on the fence rather comfortably as a civilian.

I would not agree that she feels disconnected or disengaged. Can you tell me the difference between civilian disengagement and mafia disengagement?

The last thing you said is "too much information." Maybe. I don't see it myself. Not yet.

Lynching nutella Day 1 is -EV anyway.

If anything, I'd say this is pretty over the top:

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:35 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:24 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:22 pm Wait a sec.

Is Epi your scum partner, Eva? Is that what's happening now? o:
Let's lynch him and find out!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Wtf is this

nutella, can you explain why you are so adamant that I am good?

And before anyone asks, I am (somewhat) sober.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:12 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:11 pm eva is scum?

epignosis is scum?

still all possible
Pointless post. It's Day 1. What isn't possible?

You are bad too.

In the meantime, I am rescinding this view.

Instead of making this about himself, iaafr pressed me on my opinion of nutella.

iaafr is a civilian.

I am here for another half hour, maybe slightly more. Then I have to work another week without so much as a piss break.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:17 pm Lynching Evenstar Day 1 is -EV. Do otherwise.
at some point today, could you find the time to iso and develop a comprehensive opinion on nutella?

if you already have one just re-evaluate her

that's all i ask of you

I should forewarn you that there is no one on this site I have gotten wrong more than nutella.

But I will do as you ask.

Lynching Evenstar Day 1 is -EV. Do otherwise.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:11 pm eva is scum?

epignosis is scum?

still all possible

Pointless post. It's Day 1. What isn't possible?

You are bad too.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:08 pm long con is locktown for this reaction

No he isn't.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:03 pm49ers

I don't know that position.

I object to an Evenstar lynch.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Yawn, already feeling depressed
Have a beer.
Man, Target’s beer selection is garbage. It’s not even November and not a single Oktoberfest in the store. Got some Voodoo Ranger IPA instead.

And Jack should be lynched for going to Target for a beer run.

So story time.

Once upon a time, I was The Syndicate Mafia Universe representative.

I called out a member of the mafia for using quite the same language Hyena has been using. The name was EngagedEnglish or EnglishEngine or something like that. I nailed him simply because of his words.

I backed off because he was a stranger to me, and I doubted myself. I was killed and the mafia won.

I'm not doing that again. Hyena is guilty. I see the same telltale linguistic tics.

I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:37 pm I have hit the wall. I'll be more coherent in the morning but here are some thoughts running around in my head -

- I still lean town on Mac.
- I'm seeing a completely different Eva than the one I saw in WC1 though I only picked up starting mid day 2 in that game. I don't think one of she or Mac has to be scum in this game.
- I am leading town on Drago, I'm sure I can point out some reasons why but it will have to wait until tomorrow, though obviously I don't agree with his vote on Mac.
- Seems like one of 112 or Benson must be scum since they both say they accurately read each other and they both say the other is bad. I guess they could both be scum but I doubt it. Right now I have a clearer picture of 112 as town.
- Not understanding the votes for Epi except what hyena explained about his vote. Will look more closely at this in the morning.
- Reserving judgement on iaafr and hyena, I've been back and forth on both. Also reserving judgement on LC, he has fooled me SO many times but I know his weekends are usually taken up with family things and the food truck
- Reading sprityo as town after his last post.

I'm sure I will have other thoughts in the morning, there are just so many people to form opinions about.

Epi if you still need a favor just ping me in a post and I'll try to accommodate in the morning.

oh wow tons of linki - I'll have to read it tomorrow.

It's simple:

When I'm at work, I'm not going to be able to read, and there's no way I'm going to be able to keep up at this ungodly rate of nonsense.

If you would give me a simple summary- no need to be elaborate- and maybe link me to a few pertinent things each Day phase so that I can function and have some idea of a sound vote, that would go a long way for me.

No worries if you can't, but thank you much if you can.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:37 pm Evenstar, Dragomir, Epignosis, Benson

What are three epic fantasy names and one mediocre sitcom?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:40 pm Wait, my vote is bad. I didn't actually read Epignosis's ISO, and I actually like their process of finding 112 civ.

So, like
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
The thread has gotten away from me, I need to try and understand what is happening with you Hyena. You voted Epi, unvoted him, then voted him again, then this. If you never read Epi's ISO and you liked his process on 112 why did you ever vote for him?
Because I remember people scumreading them but didn't remember anything they had said, so I wanted to 1. get him to engage with me, and 2. see how others reacted to the vote. 112 asked me if she could trust me, which felt kinda weird, and Evenstar eventually voted with me, though I think she'd do that as either alignment. I don't remember any other reactions.

You didn't want me to engage with you. I wasn't even around. I just happened to be in the thread while my turkey was in the oven. I just happened to vote you for no reason whatsoever. You called it "fight."

You also did not leave your vote on me long enough to see how others would react.

You are exuding bullshit. You are mafia.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm Actual read on Spiny:

I don't know if she reads me town or scum, but if she's reading me scum, it's odd that she's trying to explain to me exactly what she means. On the other hand, if she's townreading me, she's exercising a lot of patience with me right now in spite of me intentionally playing dense.
"Actual read."

Were there phony ones?
Yes. :3

Let's see.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:46 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 am ok if i'm gonna start posting from the point I'm caught up at, these were my ~vibes~

anyway Eva is town. and not JUST because her savagery in response to Drago's flirting attempts was the most beautiful effortless thing she's ever done. (more because of her responses to iaafr and 112). Her read that Drago continuing that flirting so long was trying to force conversation, thus scummy, was not one that would've occurred to me, but ig she could be right there.

I do not understand where iaafr's "always town" read of 112 started or came from or what the vibe is that he likes, even though he has since made posts explaining it. i like other posts of iaafr and his overall tone, but that whole read is so ???? to me.

lol at Mac saying he's policy never-lynching me and then immediately asking other people to build a case on me :P that and some overly defensive early posts / questioning things I thought were obvious had me side-eyeing him. but i liked his later posts. will see how he engages with Eva.

I do vibe with IAAFR saying that there's too much "hey i like this guy" and "this guy can be town" going on. from loose recollection Hyena and Epi felt like offenders there. Hyena maybe felt less sincere? this is loose memory.
This is one of the ones.

Spiiiny~

Why didn't you directly confront me about me liking too many people?

This is a question, but not an opinion.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Oh wait, I totally forgot about Spiny not directly confronting me about liking too many people.

[VOTE: Spiny Creature] aubergine

This is a statement, but not an opinion.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:02 pm Spiny and Nanook townreading Pawn? What's this?

None of this means anything to me.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:22 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:03 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Oh wait, I totally forgot about Spiny not directly confronting me about liking too many people.

[VOTE: Spiny Creature] aubergine
*narrows eyes*

I wasn't gonna make too much of it when it was just a throwaway thought from you, but when it's repeated with the exact same wording ("directly confronting me") 12 hours later, that feels like a static read. and maybe forced.

me in one post: "I'm still catching up and wasn't feeling like replying while still reading, but I do want to reply to this one specific thing from Tony"

me in the very next post: "now that i'm posting i might as well post the loose vibes I have on about 5 people so far, including a vague half-remembered read on Hyena, but these are not replies just memories"

like... dude, the lack of direct reply to you is explained. also "directly confront" as if my read on you wasn't as weaksauce as "I think I remember X scummy thing about Hyena, but not sure, will finish catchup first".

tunneling me for not replying directly to you, when I hadn't replied directly to ANYONE IN THE GAME except for Tony, and then repeating the same wording to explain the scumread 12 hours later, just feels insincere to me.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:04 pm that said, I gather that you votehop as you remember people and form new reads, based on how much I've seen you voting just in the past few pages.

so if it was just a stray thought from you and not a continued tunnel i find it less static. and therefore less weird.
Overexplanation + fencesitting

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:16 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Oh oops, Spiny indeed has an avatar
rename yourself to spiky creature tbqh

i heard a rumor (aka skimming the last couple of pages of thread) that you were spewed town at some point. i can see that. your intro posts seemed very good to me.
This feels fake.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:06 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:02 pm Spiny and Nanook townreading Pawn? What's this?
wat

I asked him a question and said I was asking him it because I hadn't read any of his posts yet

are you reading my posts

how do you even jump to me townreading him
More fencesitting. :P

These are somewhat opinions. Are these phony?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."

Or is this one phony?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:42 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:38 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
........what??????????????????????????????/

I asked where I townread Pawn, because I never did.

this does not answer my question. You are redirecting to making a case that Pawn and I are w/w, which does not address the fact that I have never called Pawn town in any post in the game.

this makes no goddamn sense. I am asking you when it was that you thought I townread Pawn, considering I said I hadn't even read any of Pawn's posts.

Honest question: does townread mean something different to you? what do you even mean when you say I townread Pawn at some point? Can you explain what the word means to you?
lol

Townread to me means I'm pocketing them, but want to lynch them for shits and giggles. :3

This is an answer to a question.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:43 pm on that note I'm going to bed :P

will try to be more pleasant tomorrow, and like i said will hopefully actually catch up and have a better day and all.
WAIT NO! I'll be serious for a second.

Okay.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm Actual read on Spiny:

I don't know if she reads me town or scum, but if she's reading me scum, it's odd that she's trying to explain to me exactly what she means. On the other hand, if she's townreading me, she's exercising a lot of patience with me right now in spite of me intentionally playing dense.

Here's the "actual."

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm Actual read on Spiny:

I don't know if she reads me town or scum, but if she's reading me scum, it's odd that she's trying to explain to me exactly what she means. On the other hand, if she's townreading me, she's exercising a lot of patience with me right now in spite of me intentionally playing dense.
"Actual read."

Were there phony ones?
Yes. :3

Please point to whatever was phony and what your purpose was in raising phony opinions.

I already said I'm a civilian, Mac. Put on your glasses.

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:59 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:37 pm juliets, are you around?
Epi I am hear now.
Are you a civilian?
Yes, I am.

I have a favor to ask of you later.

I am going to eat a feast. When I come back, it's story time.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:47 pm Actual read on Spiny:

I don't know if she reads me town or scum, but if she's reading me scum, it's odd that she's trying to explain to me exactly what she means. On the other hand, if she's townreading me, she's exercising a lot of patience with me right now in spite of me intentionally playing dense.

"Actual read."

Were there phony ones?

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:37 pm juliets, are you around?
Epi I am hear now.

Are you a civilian?

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 pm
Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm
@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.
Right here. :P

(via Google translate) "Pawn has more heat, so let me give my scum partner, who I'm townreading, a chance to be towny by talking about Eva right now."
[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

This spiny case is bullshit and I don't see what you're doing otherwise. Also you dropped off the Epi vote super fast as soon as it started to gain traction.

That ain't a hyena, it's a wolf.

I like Evenstar.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:51 pm Think I figured out how to vote, guessing it’s thay poll. That’s kinda janky but I can get with it.

I RNGed 5 so I voted dom because he’s 5th down. #ElliStyleReadsAreRandom
oh god not RNG voting

what's this forum's stance on RNG voting anyway

on my homesite i would say it'd be NAI it pisses off townies so much that it's inherently a distraction that leads to playstyle debates and thus anti-town

That we're all individuals who think independently of one another.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Oh wait, I totally forgot about Spiny not directly confronting me about liking too many people.

[VOTE: Spiny Creature] aubergine

"totally."

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Yawn, already feeling depressed
Have a beer.
I don't have any.
Fates worse than death.

Talk to me about Hyena.
I don't remember if I had previously stated a read on them, but they're NAGL rn

I don't know what that means. I'm old.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:47 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Yawn, already feeling depressed
Have a beer.
I don't have any.

Fates worse than death.

Talk to me about Hyena.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:46 pm Yawn, already feeling depressed

Have a beer.

Hyena is mafia. I have posted nothing in this to be spared a Day 1 lynch. That I came in and pissed on the carpet doesn't mean shit. I don't even know if I believe if 112 is a civilian. I just wrote stuff.

Also...Hyena used "actually" twice in the same sentence.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:40 pm Wait, my vote is bad. I didn't actually read Epignosis's ISO, and I actually like their process of finding 112 civ.

So, like
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Really? This may be the only time in my life where someone liked me better because I was drunk.

Hold on. I'll get the bourbon.

juliets, are you around?

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:32 pm [VOTE: Hyena] aubergine
Oh, so you do have some fight in you. :3 I thought for a second you were just giving up.

I have plenty of fight. What I don't have is time.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:30 pm Yeah you guys should D1 a new player cause they’ll be harder to read!

Wait....
Epignosis then?

Fine with me. I'm not bad, but there's no way I'm going to keep up with this.

There is no way on God's green earth that I am going to spend my only day off this week reading ten pages that have appeared between now and the time I went to bed last night.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:48 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
You are mafia.
nuh-uh
Prove me wrong.
I'll do my best to demonstrate. I'm heading out now. It's unfortunate that all ways of proving it are against the game rules, but I'll find some way to telepathically come across to you as so extremely genuine that you can never in your mind doubt my innocence.

for the record- i'm feeling in my mafia zone, so you're all in for a special treat tbh
i dont need to hear about you feeling in your zone, close the door tbh

I don't know the purpose of this post from nutella.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
You are mafia.
I agree.

How fun. I just called 112 a good guy.

Oh look I'm making a list of civilians someone better stop me oh no.

112- Civilian

112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
You are mafia.
nuh-uh
Prove me wrong.
I'll do my best to demonstrate. I'm heading out now. It's unfortunate that all ways of proving it are against the game rules, but I'll find some way to telepathically come across to you as so extremely genuine that you can never in your mind doubt my innocence.

for the record- i'm feeling in my mafia zone, so you're all in for a special treat tbh

First off...the underlined is bullshit.

Second off...this 112 person is a civilian.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:21 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome
You are mafia.
nuh-uh

Prove me wrong.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:18 pm honestly, guys, i'm just going to role-play my character the whole game and hope that through magickal energies i can help us effect a good outcome

You are mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:25 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:33 pm So far I've felt some negative juju vibrations from tsp, juliets and spiny. Can someone bombard them with aggressive accusations for me please?
I'd like to hear your specifics for what I've done that is suspicious. What juju vibrations?
Your posts have a nervous/awkward tone to them and the way you reacted to that other person sussing you was weirdly aggressive.

Here we go again.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:49 pm
vanity. wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:57 pm i have now decided on a whim that iaafr is now a 3p.

see yall tomorrow.
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The last time you loved something we lost.

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