The Syndicate

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:16 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:20 pm As things stand, I don't believe a word that comes from Guillotine.

A "parity cop" was something I'd never heard of. Fine.

JJJ has never said that phrase on this site. Fine.

It's been mentioned four times in over a decade. Four. Fine.

A "limited use parity cop" is hilarious though. A parity cop is ALREADY by it's nature limited.

I hesitated Day 1 on Guillotine because my own role was limited. To me that spoke of a level of honesty that gave me pause.

Instead, I think Guillotine or Guillotine's partner has a limited role that provided Guillotine with knowledge that limited roles were in play.

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine
o you dont scum read me, you just think parity cop can't exist, not a real scum read, if we lose, we lose because you meta games the host not because you scum read me. Get wrecked.

If I lose, it's for far greater reasons than that.

Cool.

I'm fucking off to bed. Last night was fun but goddamn am I forty.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:43 pm I still do think Epi is just telling the truth over Guillotine though. Especially since Guillotine was so adamant that claiming day 1 meant that anyone who CCd them day 2 would be confirmed evil as though they were preparing for the counter claim beforehand.

Then...

why...

won't...

you...

vote...

Guillotine?

For someone who is adamant about the "world" where I'm a teammate with Guillotine, you're wildly adamant about keeping Guillotine alive.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:24 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:21 pm So the problem I'm having in my head is that it feels like one of Guillotine and Epignosis are lying. Setupwise both being true seems highly unlikely.
What reason do I have to lie, and what is my endgame scenario if I did?
I mean if you are lying here the scenario would just be as follows.

You fake claim (or maybe really are a Mafia Jailkeeper idk) with the intent to out a real Parity Cop.
Of course this is pretty much a 1 for 1 between you two so you'd be executed day 3 after Guillotine is outed.
Then we would just wind up in an endgame where it's 2 Town and 1 Mafia, that Mafia being whoever your partner is

There is certainly reason to do what you are doing as a wolf.

Of course there is the tinfoil world where you are wolf and Guillotine is your partner you are doing some big brain plays claiming a role that basically just mechanically CCs the mere existence of your partner's fake claim. In that case, I would say well done that's a good play I wouldn't have expected.

Or, I don't know. Crazy idea here. Wild ass crazy idea. I just kill Guillotine and nip that in the bud.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:21 pm So the problem I'm having in my head is that it feels like one of Guillotine and Epignosis are lying. Setupwise both being true seems highly unlikely.

What reason do I have to lie, and what is my endgame scenario if I did?

A LIMITED parity cop, might I add.

I just think this:

1) A Parity Cop makes next to no sense in this setup.
2) Guillotine doesn't act like a Parity Cop.
3) Guillotine didn't die.

Oh dear lord. A power role doesn't mean you're a civilian. Claiming that doesn't mean anything.

I claimed because I fucked up.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:39 pm It's also possible Epignosis is lying about not using their ability and is just a Roleblocker who hit a non-Power Role night 1.
Why would I lie about that? I could keep my mouth shut.
And that makes even less sense.

If I'm a mafia role blocker, and Guillotine over here is the parity cop, I'm targeting Guillotine with that.
Did you believe Guillo's claim yesterday?
Not until I asked for clarification. Then I had to think about it.
What did you ask for clarification about?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:54 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:50 pm Harclaim Parity Cop
Is the description in the link below an accurate description of your role?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/da ... rity%20Cop

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:06 pm Yes but mine is limited

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:59 pm Whp would Guillotine's partner be if they were wolf? I was thinking it had to be Epignosis, but does anyone have meta on Epignosis to know if they tend to bus this hard day 2?

Please talk about this post. That one above my head. Right there. Yep. You can see it. Ask a tall fellow to reach it if you can't.

Going back to this post:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:31 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town

Michelle

Null

Seanzie
Cat

Scum

DrWilgy
SvS

Spicy read

LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy
You don't require permission to vote out S~V~S if the first post is real. It isn't. You're a liar. You're mafia.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:39 pm It's also possible Epignosis is lying about not using their ability and is just a Roleblocker who hit a non-Power Role night 1.
Why would I lie about that? I could keep my mouth shut.
And that makes even less sense.

If I'm a mafia role blocker, and Guillotine over here is the parity cop, I'm targeting Guillotine with that.
Did you believe Guillo's claim yesterday?

Not until I asked for clarification. Then I had to think about it.

But to hell with powers. I still believe in the power of reading posts.

A drinker's pain in the ass:

In real life:

"I'm not drunk, I'm not drunk." "Yes you are."

In mafia:

"I got drunk." "No you didn't, you liar!"

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:39 pm It's also possible Epignosis is lying about not using their ability and is just a Roleblocker who hit a non-Power Role night 1.
Why would I lie about that? I could keep my mouth shut.

And that makes even less sense.

If I'm a mafia role blocker, and Guillotine over here is the parity cop, I'm targeting Guillotine with that.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:39 pm It's also possible Epignosis is lying about not using their ability and is just a Roleblocker who hit a non-Power Role night 1.

Why would I lie about that? I could keep my mouth shut.

I think I'm correct that the team is S~V~S and Guillotine.

Michelle voted S~V~S and was adamant that I stay on her. Michelle is dead.

As things stand, I don't believe a word that comes from Guillotine.

A "parity cop" was something I'd never heard of. Fine.

JJJ has never said that phrase on this site. Fine.

It's been mentioned four times in over a decade. Four. Fine.

A "limited use parity cop" is hilarious though. A parity cop is ALREADY by it's nature limited.

I hesitated Day 1 on Guillotine because my own role was limited. To me that spoke of a level of honesty that gave me pause.

Instead, I think Guillotine or Guillotine's partner has a limited role that provided Guillotine with knowledge that limited roles were in play.

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Some notes.

LinearPoint has claimed a role that sent Cat to the Pet Semetary. We have evidence of that.
Seanzie has (sort of) claimed doing likewise to either Wilgy or Michelle. We have evidence of that.
Guillotine has claimed parity cop. We have no evidence of that.

I want to admit that I made not one, but two errors in assessing things.

I am also a power role.

I am (once again in the JJJ-verse) a jailkeeper. I had a one-shot Day 1 jailkeep power.

Who'd I target? Not a damn soul.

Yesterday I turned forty, turnt up, and forgot to do shit.

So I apologize to everyone except the mafia faction.

The other error I made was in assuming Heists were three power roles and no more. I do not know at what point Heists became five, but here we are.

[VOTE: No vote] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:27 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:42 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:01 am *waiting for everyone to realize there is no way we have a pairity cop, a vig, and someone who controls the D1 elim in a 10er*
Yeah, I was wondering about that.

Has Guillo said if he's a 1x parity cop? A 1X parity cop would send two names in one time; a nightly parity cop checks one nights results against anothers, right? I am not super knowledgeable about this role.
I have not said any of the sort nor will i reveal any of my role.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:06 pm Yes but mine is limited

(That's a joke Michelle. We're cool. I was always voting S~V~S today in the last moment. I laughed so hard at "Get another coin and DO IT AGAIN.")

Y'all saw Michelle in here bullying me. Just sayin'.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:51 pm Guillotine
4
33%
Voters: cat, Seanzie, DrWilgy, Epignosis

@Epignosis explain
I said I lost my coin.
Take another one and do it again

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:51 pm Guillotine
4
33%
Voters: cat, Seanzie, DrWilgy, Epignosis

@Epignosis explain

I said I lost my coin.

I lost my coin.

Shit shit shit

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:40 pm Where is everyone?

Well, I have to pee pee.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:40 pm PoE

SvS
Cat
Wilgy
LP

If chopping through does not win the game we are fucked

I don't think cat and S~V~S are teammates.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:32 pm Ya'll ought to know better. I've got a bourbon in my hand. Not no damn quarter. Who sits here with thirty minutes to go with a quarter in his hand? What am I? Two-Face?
The yellow text looked for me like I said
Ebwop

I see.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:32 pm Ya'll ought to know better. I've got a bourbon in my hand. Not no damn quarter. Who sits here with thirty minutes to go with a quarter in his hand? What am I? Two-Face?
The sized text looked for me like I said

Your sized text commands went in between two words.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:33 pm Otoh Epi is right. Eod presence is town indicative

I said what now?

Ya'll ought to know better. I've got a bourbon in my hand. Not no damn quarter. Who sits here with thirty minutes to go with a quarter in his hand? What am I? Two-Face?

Got a quarter in my hand.

I'll flip it a minute before the poll ends, and if it's head's, I'll jump off and let it go random.

S~V~S is mafia.

That's where I'm voting.

My issue in her response was that I should know better.

No, I don't know better.

If I knew better, S~V~S would never beat me, and S~V~S continues to beat me.

"He would know I don’t make up fake suspicions out of the gate like that on Day one as a baddie. "

No, I don't know that. I don't know that about anybody. The entire point of being mafia is making up fake suspicions out of the gate. That's like goal ONE. If you can do that, you've already lost.

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:15 pm In 45 minutes I shall be 40.
The secret to not getting older is to not slow down

My wife keeps telling me "faster, faster!"

So I'm fucked, see?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:15 pm In 45 minutes I shall be 40.
Happy birthday Epi!!!!!

SHH

Not yet!

Jesus.

I am become Ozymandias, loser to time.

In 45 minutes I shall be 40.

Yes, I'm holding Guillotine hostage.

If no one answers, I'm lynching Guillotine.

As much as I've shit on Guillotine, this is not a Day 1 lynch. You have:

-A highly active participant
-A claim
-A blatant disregard for self-preservation despite the claim
-Lots of people doing nothing

If Guillotine is mafia, lynch the partner. Who is the partner?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:06 pm Yes but mine is limited

When I saw your claim, I searched "parity cop" on this site and found a whopping four instances. I had never heard of the term that I could remember. And none of those instances came from our host, JJJ.

On top of that, a parity cop in a two-mafia game? I found that a stretch.

I was ready to destroy you.

But now I cannot in good conscience vote you Day 1.

Wild.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:50 pm Harclaim Parity Cop

Is the description in the link below an accurate description of your role?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/da ... rity%20Cop

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:03 am And just like that DrWilgy goes away from a real time convo with me.

Chicken lol

This post came four minutes after your last one (and Wilgy was working on responding to someone else).

Not important. I just remember last night how long I waited for you to respond to my posts.

[VOTE: No vote] aubergine

I have fallen behind and I am working, but I will be available for about two hours before the sun sets.

If I'm wrong at any point, there's another several hours to discuss it. Guillotine called me good (I don't know why) and S~V~S has said nothing about me (I don't know why).

One thing is for sure:

Unlike Ozymandias, I will be back later.

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