The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:38 pm [VOTE: dennis] aubergine for fun

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:32 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:29 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:23 pm I might be OMGUSing a bit

A bit?

You've only voted people who voted you first lol...

OMGUS is my ultimate skill

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:22 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:20 pm I commented on everything
how are people just not reading

I said, "I don't see that Lemon ever commented about this."

That isn't to say you didn't comment. Again, I wasn't reading through your posts. I was reading through S~V~S's posts. I did stop and look around the surrounding context, but I didn't see where you talked about this (you talked about other things at the time).

If you have a link, please.

so you think I'm scum but you didn't read my posts? :c

and yeah, I'll try to find it and pull it up in a sec

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:22 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:20 pm I commented on everything
how are people just not reading

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:12 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:57 am You cannot control players reactions to pressure or a vote but you can read a defense and gauge your feels from there - no?

yeah, I'm just saying I tend to have the knee-jerk reaction of negatively reading defensiveness
which sometimes overrides everything else

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:59 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:51 pm Two confirmed civilians named here by Lemonfairy

you know I had both at the top of my reads at the end though, right?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:59 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:51 pm I don't understand why Lemon suspected S~V~S. I also don't know why a civilian might say "you know what, just don't worry about it."

if you read the entire thing, you'll see I have tried to explain it multiple times and SVS was either not seeing my posts or not understanding and at some point I just gave up and told them to not worry about b/c it wasn't important

and fyi (b/c it looks like you missed my explanation too) I named Syn/SVS/Dennis as a team because Syn asked me who I thought were scum based on what little posts there were on D1 and at that point, only Syn, SVS, Dennis, and myself had posted

so no, it was not a legit suspicion and no, there wasn't a point to it either
and if you read back you'll also see I never tried to push anyone in the team I named after either

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:31 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:01 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm Just a gut feel on you being town. Regarding your discussion on being defensive... Although I would agree that defensiveness can be construed as guilty or bad, it could easily be justified in many cases. Yours is one of them. Finally your reasoning seemed to be backed up by a third party in the thread.

pop-in noted
not going to comment on content b/c I don't agree but that probably unimportant

OK, now this makes me feel better about Six, and worse about you. You snipped this out of context, and are kinda misrepresenting what's going on here.

I tagged Six in a specific question, and he is replying to it. Read it context,

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:03 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:01 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:29 pm also this is irrelevant but people who are more resistant to being voted actually makes me want to push them more

so um
yeah

Maybe we just have a different approach, becasue I am always resistant to being voted

My very good friend is hosting her first game on this site, and i hope to be here for all of it, not be miselimmed on day one for a vague reason. Also, I was not 100% sure you really believed I was bad based on what *I think* was my reaction to a host post. I am a person who over thinks things and I am trying to be more spontaneous in Mafia games, but I'm not sure that's working out for me,

*Your* name is a good role, I'm not sure I'll ever get used to my name being a bad role, so expect more "um what?" from me in the future.

SixStrings wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:01 pm OK, still pretty new at all this but I will chime in. Seems too early to decide on a vote for wolf, however so far I am convinced S -V- S is town.

This is rather astute of you; may I ask why you think so? The other game we played, Muppets, I was in Crusader Rabbit mode, rather than defense mode, as I am here. And even though i do it myself, being defensive is pretty much generally viewed as kinda scummy. So not sure why you would have this thought.

Just a gut feel on you being town. Regarding your discussion on being defensive... Although I would agree that defensiveness can be construed as guilty or bad, it could easily be justified in many cases. Yours is one of them. Finally your reasoning seemed to be backed up by a third party in the thread.

... this reads more like any one of us answering that little notification bell to me.

Your post, and the way you snipped it, feels like low poster hunting rather than scum hunting.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:10 pm I want to thank everyone for all the pocketing, and since almost everyone did it, I feel refreshingly uninfluenced by it.

Some things so far have not changed for me. I lean civ on Neon. I lean more wolfy on syn than I did this AM, mainly for the stated desire to go after low posters on Day One. Those folks have the same odds of randing civ as any of us, and if they're town, force the woofs to NK them if they want to win. Or sort them later in the POE.

Otherwise, my only experience with syn is Party Crasher, which is no experience at all. I'm sure they got a better look at my game than I got at theirs. So I'm more likely to rely on the opinions of others re syn.

I am going to reread Splints, her posts seem a bit ... I dunno, following the crowd a bit?

I always think Dennis is bad, lol, but I'm warming up to his game here. @Dennis , I saw you posted on Splints, on the fact that she is posting at all being AI. What do you think of what she is saying?

I saw Sixes reply, and I'm still processing it. It seemed sincere, but I'm not sure it answered my question. So not my likeliest vote as of now, but not my least likely either.

No real opinion on Falcon yet, I misread him alot when I first started playing with him so i'm fairly cautious about him, and i haven't found any hooks or tells that help me sort him as of yet.

I feel pretty good about Sean, mainly tone, no other reason. He seems very laid back, relaxed. Not the same as he felt in GOC where we were bad teammates.

Epi had zero reason as a baddie to point out what he did about my reaction to a host post. He can fool me better than most, but as of now, as I said, I don't see why he would bother making the post he did if he was bad.

Same for Wilgy, and his level of solve is good, and he isn't posting go along to get along opinions. I'm not as sure about Lemon as he is, I still think Lemon was sincere in his reasons for pushing me. Lemon doesn't know me, and in addition to being OG, I have always been a bit quixotic even back in the day. I learned my lesson about judging people based on stylistic differences in the Anni game.

Mata is incredibly insightful, and i hope she brings some of that. @Matahari come play with us.

Roxy is also a bit of a question mark for me; she graciously defended me, but I am looking forward to hearing her suspects, or her town, or her reads in general. I find she is very insightful and gets to the crux of the matter, without pulling any punches.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:24 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:21 pm idk what else to say

based on the many pages of D1 content, who do you think is the team?

Dennis, SVS, and Syn

Pray tell why?

a little birdie flew by and whispered these names to me

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

no, it's D1
unless you want me to look at N0

which I guess I could
but does it have anything worth looking at?

Well you called me out as bad, and I’d like to know why.

This is a thing that irritates me; calling out or clearing a person without giving reasons.

If you say, we’ll x, y and x seem to be bad to me, you should be willing to say why, I guess.

this is why

So that’s why Lemonfairy thinks I’m bad. Thanks for explaining that for them.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:55 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:53 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:26 pm So no real reason why then?

no, it's D1
unless you want me to look at N0

which I guess I could
but does it have anything worth looking at?

Well you called me out as bad, and I’d like to know why.

This is a thing that irritates me; calling out or clearing a person without giving reasons.

If you say, we’ll x, y and x seem to be bad to me, you should be willing to say why, I guess.

if you scroll up a bit, you'll see that you were the only ones who have posted D1

I have no idea what you are talking about.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:21 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:15 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:09 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:01 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:58 pm Well I still have no idea what Syn and Lemon are talking about re me, but I gotta go walk the dog and go to bed.

Night!

I think they're just screwing with you

Like just pretending to suspect me for shits and giggles? I hope that would not be the case in this community.

I’d prefer if they were actually suspecting me. I would just like to know why

Anyhow, good night again!

Linki, cause Epignosis knows my game since 2012 maybe? Jeez.

...I've already explained why

you know what, just don't worry about it

You know, I don’t think you have, not really.

But let me tell you, I’m town and I’ll go down kicking and screaming. So not sure why you and syn chose me to focus on, but it won’t end well.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:23 am So far, I think Neon prolly town; if she was bad I think she would not have even considered what I said before rejecting it. But she did consider it.

Of Lemon and syn, I’m more inclined to read Lemon townishly. They feel sincere to me, even if they are aiming that sincerity at me.

I’m a bit more conflicted on syn; but not sure how much of that is OMGUS. When they made this post early day I wasn’t sure it wasn’t a joke since Wilgy and I had two interactions, both over a joke. It felt like sowing seeds for a later vote, maybe a tad opportunistic. So maybe OMGUS on my part, maybe not.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:13 pmSVS/Wilgy w/w

The only person to really catch my eye in a maybe Wolfy way so far is Six. Not sure why he would find me towny when the one game we played together, where I was a civ, I looked nothing like this. I need to hear from him on this.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:13 pmSVS/Wilgy w/w

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:27 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:22 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:21 pm idk what else to say

based on the many pages of D1 content, who do you think is the team?

Dennis, SVS, and Syn

i agree let's kill them

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:37 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:06 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:54 pm
um what?

My statement was unequivocal.

but why do you think scum SVS wouldn't react that way?

I've known S~V~S a long time. Mafia S~V~S wouldn't jump out of her shoes from a host post that named her specifically with three people five minutes later. There would be some "what was that" behind the scenes before posting.

this meanwhile is very scummy

I impolitely disagree.

sucks that ur wolfing again herr seanzie

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:36 pm Epi
Splints
Neon
SVS
Seanzie

Mata
Six
Dennis
Roxy
Falcon

Syn
Lemon

Order is irrelevant.

This is the way.

poopy list my liege

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:40 pm replace syn and lemon with mata and six

and plummet epi from the top to the bottom

thanks love you

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:20 pmi love lemons now

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:40 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:39 pm My read list ...

Likely town
Seanzie
Roxy
fingersplints
Neon

Town leaning
Dennis
DrWilgy

Wolf leaning
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Matahari
Lemonfairy

thanks
can you explain fingerspints, Neon, Epignosis, and me pls?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:12 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:10 pm I thought my overuse of quotation marks made it clear it wasn't that at all. Still, I found a connection between you and falcon. That's what it accomplished. You are hard against a dead falcon. I am not satisfied with your answers regarding why.

no, it wasn't very clear (at least not to me)
do you think this connection is worth anything though?

feels like you're picking at something that scum would be self-conscious about enough to avoid doing with a partner

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.

do you think this inconsistency is scummy?

SixStrings wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:23 pm Ok, as I have established, I am still very new and as such have offered very little dialogue. Though my silence might bring on some suspicion, I have chosen to observe more than comment. I will readily admit I have been wrong more than right so far on my guesses between this game and last.
Here is my question, "what would be the main benefit of commenting on my own suspicions ? It seems if I were correct it would get me killed.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:16 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:44 pm Wasn't impressed with IT part 1 though. Hoping this is better.

You would have been better served if you read the book making cool voice-overs for your kids <3 the movies SUCKED imho.

The book is Amazing (Gr 7 baby)



The TV Movie is OK.




The 1st movie was a very cool interpretation of the youth segments of the book. The 2nd movie was crap, as it tried to force comedy into too many scary moments...an audience can laugh at moments in a horror film, but if the comedy is too liberally sprinkled w/ the terror moments?



It's neither funny nor scary

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm Yeah okay, I was wrong on Epi.

Show your work.

In what world does scum!Seanzie hard defend scum!Falcon like this? I'll wait.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:43 pm Like Epi is not actually considering us as a team, they're just pushing us as elims.

Were you wrong on me being mafia or wrong on me being the best option for caterer at your next luncheon?

Sorry about your rand.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm Yeah okay, I was wrong on Epi.

Show your work.

In what world does scum!Seanzie hard defend scum!Falcon like this? I'll wait.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:43 pm Like Epi is not actually considering us as a team, they're just pushing us as elims.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm Yeah okay, I was wrong on Epi.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:20 pm What do you do when falcon is bad and you aren't?

I elim them D1 and then town eventually loses.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:17 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:52 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

No.

See, this is what I would call a "pressure vote."

I'm pressuring falcon into answering my questions because it's a "pressure vote." So many questions.

I'm also making other people (and maybe falcon's teammates) talk more about falcon because this is a "pressure vote."

It sucks when I label something a "pressure vote" because it exposes my ploy.

Is your Falcon stance still a pressure vote, or is it something different now?

I thought my overuse of quotation marks made it clear it wasn't that at all. Still, I found a connection between you and falcon. That's what it accomplished. You are hard against a dead falcon. I am not satisfied with your answers regarding why.

The connection is level 0 and tenuous at best. Me defending Falcon early game is NAI.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:05 pm It's NAI for Sean to not want to flip me D1

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:00 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:55 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:52 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

No.

See, this is what I would call a "pressure vote."

I'm pressuring falcon into answering my questions because it's a "pressure vote." So many questions.

I'm also making other people (and maybe falcon's teammates) talk more about falcon because this is a "pressure vote."

It sucks when I label something a "pressure vote" because it exposes my ploy.

Is your Falcon stance still a pressure vote, or is it something different now?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:51 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

No.

The first game we played together, you went after precieved-LHF-me. Now you're going after LHF Falcon.

Jesus, that was ages ago. I had to look it up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:52 pm Epignosis
2
13%

Voters: Long Con, Seanzie

The problem here is that you have me at the top of your list and you are accusing me of going after left handed fiddlers.

I was bad in Bike, so am I bad here?

Yes.

A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.

You know, I think you even used that same gif in Bike.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:51 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:50 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:29 pm

What?

Is it safe to kill falcon now?

No.

The first game we played together, you went after precieved-LHF-me. Now you're going after LHF Falcon.

Jesus, that was ages ago. I had to look it up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:52 pm Epignosis
2
13%

Voters: Long Con, Seanzie

The problem here is that you have me at the top of your list and you are accusing me of going after left handed fiddlers.

I was bad in Bike, so am I bad here?

Yes.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:46 pmNothing?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:18 pm Rip SixStrings Syn and Syn SVS

What?

Is it safe to kill falcon now?

No.

The first game we played together, you went after precieved-LHF-me. Now you're going after LHF Falcon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:52 pm Epignosis
2
13%

Voters: Long Con, Seanzie

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:18 pm Rip SixStrings Syn and Syn SVS

What?

Is it safe to kill falcon now?

No.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:18 pm Rip SixStrings Syn and Syn SVS

What?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:35 am GTH. No sorting within groups.

S~V~S
Epignosis
Roxy

fingersplints

Lemonfairy
DrWilgy

falcon45ca
Neon
SixStrings

Dennis
Matahari

Syn

What have I done to earn a spot of there?

Somebody else had me up top too.

You're a polarized noob. Or I'm pocketing you. Your choice.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:22 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:14 pm Wolf flips

that turn into town losses? Is there like a genuine correlation here that I'm missing

There are like 7 answers to this question. I will provide 2.

1.) There is an unexplained phenomenon in mafia that may or may not be backed up by statistics that a D1 wolf flip actually leads to more town losses than wins.

2.) Falcon's biggest strength IMO as a wolf is anti-spew. It is very hard to use Falcon's ISO to find their partner's post-flip, and people who try more often end up misyeeting rather than hitting teammates.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:59 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:40 am For me, I know it's town Roxy when she comes in with a big reads list and rains her honesty down on us. Haven't seen this yet, so until it happens, I'm not sure. As for Splints, it's super hard for me to tell her bad from her good game. She a reluctant baddie I know, but she also is quiet when town, so looking for some insight there.

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:19 am @Dennis - pal you really are getting the hang of this game and yep I feel like you are honestly trying to hunt baddies this time. Right now I am giving you the botd and see how it goes. I am unable to classify you at this time.

@DrWilgy - you are feeling less involved this game, doesn't affect your alignment tho I feel like I am having a hard time gauging your reads. Some feel a bit forced but I am unsure what or if that means anything. I am feeling townish from you but Imma need more from you, pretty please.

@Epignosis - Hi buddy <3 been sooo long since we have played together. So has you style changed? That remains to be seen. What I have noticed is that you are QUIET. Not at all like I remember. You have given a couple of insights but tbh I am really unsure of who you suspect or why. Can you help out the town by giving a rainbow or reads list?

@falcon45ca - hey I hope my read on your tell is accurate bc right now it is saying you are town. Thanks for this as I am unsure about a number of people this game.

@fingersplints - yes I lean town on you. It's the splints I know and love. I am so happy to playing together again. <3 What are your thoughts inre: Neon, Dennis, Epi, Mata, Six and Seanzie?

@Lemonfairy - I have already said you came out of the SVS vs the "Um What" fiasco looking the best to me. You felt Town to me. I am digging the way you seem to be vibing this game. Why do you think Syn seems townie vs why Epi seems bad? Why are Mata and Six in your list? Is it bc they have not said much or is it what they have said?

@Matahari - Yay!! We are playing together again. I am looking forward to your reads and am hoping to sort you after it.

@Neon - you bad. You seem to be playing in the same fashion as last game and I cannot let it go rn. After the "um what" crazy that you helped perpetuate you seemed like a player who was mad bc no one wanted to buy what you were selling about SVS. You are not adding anything new to the game and will not give reasons for your actual votes/suspicions and I find that suspicious in and of itself.

@Seanzie - You seem quite fluffy except in your defense of falcon. What are your actual thoughts on the game state. GTH reads if you would pretty please.

@SixStrings - welcome back. You gave some insight about SVS during the whole "um what" discussion while awesome to join in I feel you need to say way more than what you have. You do not know any of us but still like I asked Seanzie - if someone is holding a gun to your head what are your reads at this moment of each player?

@S~V~S - at the time of me defending you I really was not sure about you hence my " I don't speak for SVS" thing. Since you have posted more I do feel like the same as splints. I can call you town.

@Syn - hey, yeah I mentioned in an earlier post that you came out of the whole "um what" party looking like a baddie who lost his chance to take down a strong player. And then said something about pocketing and waiting to see if you were right until D 4. Why wait? Hunt baddies now. You didn't find one with SVS so why give up the towns goal of hunting a baddie and elimming them?

What say you regarding Roxy, S~V~S?

(Sorry if you already talked about this. I'll get there.)

I do feel better about her, thanks for helpfully pointing this post out. How do you feel about her?

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:20 pm I am less convinced that falcon is town though

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:30 pm This game state is the worst I've seen in a while.

2 town wagons. People being too busy telling each other how amazing they are to look at the actual game state and realize the thread is in shambles. Town probably already lost there's no cohesion

So that's cool.

I'd love to build a town core but this is all I got

DrWilgy
Neon
S~V~S
Syn

I'm pretty confident in this town core. I'd love to solve a game of mafia.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:20 pm I think both Syn and Falcon are town

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:58 pm Epignosis was because of the vote on falcon and then saying it was a pressure vote, which tbh I felt wasn't necessary to say

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:40 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:28 pm It was a solid true take but one that any OG player could point out - which we all did.

But thanks bc for me he is a notoriously hard read.

I've only played a few games with Epi, but I've always found them relatively easy to read.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:22 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:20 pm since you are here, Seanzie, why do you have Epi as such a solid read? I am curious bc I have always had a hard time reading him.

Epi's SVS read was the one that started the SVS fever. I thought it was a solid take and likely came from town trying to find town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:35 am GTH. No sorting within groups.

S~V~S
Epignosis
Roxy

fingersplints

Lemonfairy
DrWilgy

falcon45ca
Neon
SixStrings

Dennis
Matahari

Syn

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:22 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:19 am @Dennis - pal you really are getting the hang of this game and yep I feel like you are honestly trying to hunt baddies this time. Right now I am giving you the botd and see how it goes. I am unable to classify you at this time.

Yay ty

But what is botd

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:40 am For me, I know it's town Roxy when she comes in with a big reads list and rains her honesty down on us. Haven't seen this yet, so until it happens, I'm not sure. As for Splints, it's super hard for me to tell her bad from her good game. She a reluctant baddie I know, but she also is quiet when town, so looking for some insight there.