The Syndicate

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:06 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:02 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:56 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this
You misunderstand.

I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.

Mac is slow though, so I can't speak for him.
So the point is lost on me I see I see

What was the purpose of your asking me the question then?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 11:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:02 pm Consider this too:

Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.

If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.

So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.
I only have 2 arguments against this idea: if the killer had enough towncred to not need to worry about being killed or targeted, or if the killer was JJJ

Mafia always kills n1

I'm the most prolific host on this site. I understand the caveats.

It's a beautiful thing that nobody ever buys, but it's true. I don't ever kill my wife early in games (Elohcin).

I don't lynch or kill JJJ Day 1.

When opposing mafia teams do this, they fuck up and clear me. But that's ironic because people suspect me more. I think that's silly. And it's been a real trend for years.

I do not kill JJJ Day 1. He's too fun to fuck with.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:56 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?
It's a code, not a thought process.
Okay then why did you feel the need to tell everyone your code. I just dont see how you connected those dots to need to post this

You misunderstand.

I don't feel the need to discuss any of that. I do it because if people who know me have any sense, they'll know I'm telling the truth and trust me and encourage others to do the same. It would save everybody a lot of time.

Mac is slow though, so I can't speak for him.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Why did you feel the need to post your mafia thought process?

It's a code, not a thought process.

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

I want everyone's opinions on this post when it is convenient.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:39 pm Civilian opinion regarding nova ( )
What did it cost?

What the hell are you on about?

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

Bingo. Ultra voted JJJ but threw shit at speedchuck.

Should JJJ show to be a civilian, it "proves" Ultra wrong.

Textbook bullshit.

I'm voting speedchuck.

Ultra strikes me as a wannabe alpha player.

"Ohohoho, someone's a little defensive. I was just trying to get clarification on what your read was on him was. Or anyone else you shaded. "

Pfft.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:23 pm As for the vote, speedchuck is obvscumming.

If he's playing suboptimal to try and garner reactions, well, it's only common courtesy to start a wagon so he gets them.

I do not understand this.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:41 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:32 pm (Psst- you skipped your line. That's my line!)
Hey guys two smatasses arguing with each other doesn't work, you need a straight man like Jay or Sloonei to balance it out.

Jay and Sloonei aren't straight men though.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.

Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck

JJJ and DDL are both civilians.

JJJ is a civilian.

Civilian opinion regarding nova (

)

I still suspect MacDougall. I think that introductory shit was cooked.

CALHOUN HOMER

It's passing out, isn't it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:28 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:25 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:23 pm I'm not going to fight my own lynch. I'm not bad, and my time is limited.
Who is bad?
Here is my schedule tonight:

1. Pour a bourbon.

2. Watch the Angels.

3. When the Blue Jays are at bat, look through things here.

4. Make posts detailing my opinions.

5. Take a piss (probably).

6. Pass out (probably).

7. Go to work somewhat coherent (I hope).
Looking forward to it.

My taking a piss or going to work?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:25 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:23 pm I'm not going to fight my own lynch. I'm not bad, and my time is limited.
Who is bad?

Here is my schedule tonight:

1. Pour a bourbon.

2. Watch the Angels.

3. When the Blue Jays are at bat, look through things here.

4. Make posts detailing my opinions.

5. Take a piss (probably).

6. Pass out (probably).

7. Go to work somewhat coherent (I hope).

Hell, I'm hosting one game and playing this one and dying in between.

Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:16 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:09 pm I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.
I just voted Jack. Come back to this wagon. Competing wagons are fun.
What is your grievance? I would consider such a thing.
Does he hasn't really done anything count as a grievance?

Jack is a frequent blind spot for me. I was hoping someone with fresh peepers could come in and tell me what they see. Jack said he's playing multiple games, so I don't doubt that.

I'm not going to fight my own lynch. I'm not bad, and my time is limited.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:13 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Didn't you kill Dunya in World Flags N1?
Is dunya JJJ?

I'm not sure that...not wait, I'm pretty sure dunya is not JJJ.
So you don't consider her prime competition when you're bad and she is not?

JJJ is a mere mortal. He is a man with logic and reason and analyses. I can manipulate that.

dunya is a fucking sorceress. She peers into souls and divines the evil lurking within. I can't compete with that shit.

Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:09 pm I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.
I just voted Jack. Come back to this wagon. Competing wagons are fun.

What is your grievance? I would consider such a thing.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 pm I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.
Didn't you kill Dunya in World Flags N1?

Is dunya JJJ?

I'm not sure that...not wait, I'm pretty sure dunya is not JJJ.

I have no objections to a Soneji lynch, but I moved back to MP as a placeholder.

Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:06 pm If I find out post-game that mafia shot at JJJ last night, I'll be sure to lock you as town for the rest of the game.

I'm sure that after the game that will really help.

I declare that the mafia team is sloppy and unorganized.

Consider this too:

Killing JJJ Night 1 in this particular setup is a rookie mistake.

If there is a civilian watcher, a civilian tracker, and a civilian jailer, and you know this, then taking a shot at the most active person who just nailed Ultra is not very wise. I would have advised against such a thing myself.

So that directs me to consider who is not wise or not paying attention to the setup.

I don't know if this means anything to new people, but I think JJJ will back me up if it helps.

I don't lynch JJJ Day 1 (I've said this much) but I don't kill JJJ Night 1 either. I consider him prime competition when I am bad and he is not.

If you care enough to believe that, then you will know I'm good. I understand if you don't.

Gemma wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:52 pm Owner claimed tracker.

Yes, I saw that just now.

That said, let me get this straight:

Owner claimed watcher and said Luxurious targeted JJJ.

Luxurious claimed jailer and said JJJ was in jail.

Nobody died.

Is that correct?

"Role alignments are randomly determined, meaning that none of these roles are guaranteed to be either Town or Mafia/Wolf."

Nobody gets credit for claiming anything. Only me.

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 3:09 pm Ultra and speedchuck

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Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.
Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.

Ultra called speedchuck's entry awkward and shaded the no lynch thing. Okay.

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Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine
This reeks of chainsaw defense.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.

Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck

Like I suggested earlier, this looks to me like an ironic sort of TMI on speedchuck, by way of accusing me of having TMI on speedchuck. For him to be so fierce that I shouldn't "chainsaw defend" speedchuck implies that he knows speedchuck is a civilian. There are a number of other posts relating in some way back to this. I won't highlight them all.

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Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:23 pm As for the vote, speedchuck is obvscumming.

If he's playing suboptimal to try and garner reactions, well, it's only common courtesy to start a wagon so he gets them.

I don't know what this is.

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Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:07 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
did you forget that you were townreading that player
No. Because I'm not.

I have some town pings from them, but I mentioned something scummy as well. If it continues, their need to cling to and buddy Nova will easily outweigh any town cred they have.
Can you point out how I'm trying to buddy Nova

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:40 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
Do you believe that JJJ was defending a teammate, or that he knows I'm town because he's not?
Leaning towards the latter atm

Ultra posed a rather meek question in response to receiving a vote from speedchuck, and then answered his prod about his suspicion of me. Doesn't mean much to me.

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:10 am DDL's knee-jerk reaction didn't look great, as someone who knows me. Ultra doesn't look bad for the reaction, though he/she seems a little focused on Nova for some reason when I look at the ISO.
JJJ reacted exactly as expected.

I'll just let everyone know I'm not going to be as active as you crazy devils. I'm in another game and I wasn't a top poster in that one either.

speechuck assessed immediate reactions to his no lynch thing and was positive (or perhaps not negative) about Ultra. He tacked on an additional bit about nova though which became something he focused on later. No gripes. Follow-up prod | Continued as a suspicion -- this doesn't look to me like something a teammate drudges up on purpose since it is nuanced enough that nobody else is that likely to discover it.

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

5 hours prior to deadline

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speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:29 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:24 pm Do you have any scum reads outside of, like, DDL
Haven't read the whole game, probably not going to. Finger of suspicion right now is on:

Gemma
Owner
Ultra
Dragomir
DDL

speedchuck included Ultra in a list of five Day 1 suspects. He's already placed the vote, so his priority on that front is clear.

~~~

Conclusion: I think speedchuck looks good here.

I want to agree with this.

I also want to nitpick.

Has speedchuck ever used the (ridiculous) phrase "Finger of Suspicion" before?

And are there even any other fingers? I have the Finger of Boogers on JJJ right now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 2:21 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:40 am Epi isn't making a whole lot of sense
Update - He still isn't making sense.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:21 pm I swear I voted.

I put a vote on Jack this time.
But like,

Why

To have a bloody vote on the board where I can see what everything looks like again.

I swear I voted.

I put a vote on Jack this time.

I call Mac mafia and the thread dies a cold death.

Cool.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:00 pm Enough with the pleasantries! It's time to fight.

How's everyone doing?
Doing fine. How's about you? What's your story?
I'm the rep from The Millennium Forums shamelessly using your mafia board as a stepping stone on my way to become the ultimate cambodian basket weaving forum mafia player. I know MP7 and a couple of other people here I'm forgetting atm

This is a horseshit exchange.

There are 100 new people on this site, and Ultra was the only one to whom Mac said, "What's your story?"

Look at every other exchange Mac had.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 am I really like these new people. They have personalities, and confidence... it's almost like they are real functioning humans.

He didn't interact with any of these new people...except Ultra.

He's mafia.

Mac voted me Day 1. He's voting DDL now. He's spending his attention interacting with me instead of interacting with DDL.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 pm Thanks speedchuck- I'm enjoying this way more than I did when it came out.
I bought this for my dad this past Christmas. It's really good.
I'm also remembering why I didn't like it.

Yeah, first 20 minutes are amazing and then the rest of the album gets on my nerves.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 pm Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.
Mac is either a bad man or a buffoon.

I defend DDL because he's a civilian. I believe that.

I "laid off ultra?" Where did I do that?

I'm clearing civilians because that is the easiest thing I can do in a climate in which I don't hardly know anybody here.
Jay interactively analysed you and Ultra and you made zero engagement with one another.

That's "having nothing to do with each other whatsoever."

Not laying off. Laying off implies I was on him to begin with.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:38 pm Epi told me in the other games scum chat (he is hosting) that he wants to be in a team that acts as one and defends each other.

Epi defended DDL, laid off ultra. He's all of a sudden producing civ clears. This is exactly how he said he wanted to play as Mafia.

Mac is either a bad man or a buffoon.

I defend DDL because he's a civilian. I believe that.

I "laid off ultra?" Where did I do that?

I'm clearing civilians because that is the easiest thing I can do in a climate in which I don't hardly know anybody here.

(Psst- you skipped your line. That's my line!)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm

I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.
So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.
You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.
And what do I do when I am mafia?
Set up wifom defences like you're trying to do.

Tell everyone how good you are at catching mafia Epignosis.

Go ahead.

It's fun to listen to.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.
So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.
You have been an antagonistic civilian for the years I have known you and all of a sudden you are civ clearing people. This is not town Epi.

And what do I do when I am mafia?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 pm Thanks speedchuck- I'm enjoying this way more than I did when it came out.
I bought this for my dad this past Christmas. It's really good.

I'm also remembering why I didn't like it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.
Why?
You are not the sort of player who gives town passes to 5 players on day 2. You are full of horse manure.

So...you expect me to adhere to a script.

Okay.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:26 pm Civilians:

Lux
DDL
Owner
JJJ
Gemma

Cool.
I don't believe these are legitimate reads. This is just random names you picked out of a barrel.

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:11 pm I'm voting MacDougall. He's full of shit.
Kindly fuck off.
I don't do it any other way.
Must be pretty suck to be in the Mafia BTSC right now huh.

They let me in for a three hour orgy. It was ultra.

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