The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:22 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:38 pm I threw a vote on a dude like birdwithteeth for no reason, and indiglo said nothing.

I threw a vote on a lady like Spacedaisy for no reason, and indiglo said I was being opportunistic.

Why is that?

Do you always complain about how unfair life is treating you?

I guess I'm not remembering you acting like this last game. Idk.

What?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:34 am My reaction when I make a game based on a really popular movie and nobody itg has seen it.

Did you want this to start some time this year or not?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:30 pm Swinging to Kylemii on the basis of the lynched one's vote for him.

This is a bit better. A little wishy-washy on Epi's part, possibly opportunistic.

Yes, everything I do is opportunistic. I sees an opportunity, and I takes it.

Ironically, this is decidedly wishy-washy on your part.

Changing my vote.

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:31 pm Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

You read Mac's question to you.

Bazinga!

And what does that mean?

Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

Swinging to Kylemii on the basis of the lynched one's vote for him.

Vote's on birdie while I work this out.

I have a mild suspicion of Kylemii on the basis of Soneji's post and that Soneji (I believe) is a guy who tosses his teammates to the rats.

I am not married to that idea. speedchuck obviously has his hand in the cookie jar, but that looks too on the nose for him.

I'm inclined to scrap all of this and go with new ideas.

indiglo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:01 pm New, improved, and hopefully accurate!

nutella
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
Kyle
Rej
colonialbob
speedchuck
LC
Mac
BWT
Never
Owner
Daisy


Went through both analyses of speedchuck again, and I feel most comfortable moving him down to yellow now.

Especially the point about Soneji answering for him, and then speedchuck being unwilling to vote Soneji. Dys's points on speedchuck were valid, they just didn't persuade me as strongly for some reason. It must be how Epi's breath always smells of alcohol.

Hey! It doesn't not! I have to work at that!

This mafia team lacks foresight.

Killing nutella when she's limited to two words a Day is silly.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:27 pm When Soneji voted, how many votes did he have himself?

None.

His weird explanation of the Kyle vote and how he needed to justify what looked like a random vote is what made me vote him in the first place. I think indiglo felt the same (but I can't talk for him obv)

That dampens my enthusiasm for a Kylemii lynch a fair bit.

When Soneji voted, how many votes did he have himself?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:19 pmKylemii has not played in a long time, and people who are coming back from a hiatus tend to get a pass around here. Beyond that, it's my general assessment of the thread climate (although I was not around for the eleventh hour switch).

Oh, I didn't know Kyle had a hiatus. That would probably qualify for a pass here. You guys are way too nice. =P
I would say though, the vote was very close and didn't feel settled in any way when Soneji voted.

That's fair. I wasn't around and didn't see that.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:08 pm Hm. Come to think of it Kyle waffled a bit around voting Soneji.

Epi - What makes you think Kyle was not getting lynched ever D1? When Soneji voted Kyle it put him on a three way tie with Bob and Daisy.

Kylemii has not played in a long time, and people who are coming back from a hiatus tend to get a pass around here. Beyond that, it's my general assessment of the thread climate (although I was not around for the eleventh hour switch).

Soneji only has one post worth a closer examination, and it's this one:

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:39 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 am But seriously though. Are there two of all roles or something? Are we all Millers?

I'm not a miller.

Good to know. What do you think it means that there's two millers in the game though?

It'd be pretty fitting thematically if they're predators, as predators are framed as turning savage naturally in the film.

Soneji chimed in on a conversation that did not initially involve him. I'm not reading anything in this.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 am So what's the deal with the Miller claim? IF everyone votes for him... and he turns up Mafia... how will we know the truth? I guess it means little in a closed setup where we don't know how many Mafia there are, but we can estimate. Is it accurate that it's "usually a mafia tactic"?

Like, do you believe a Miller flips mafia upon death?

The incredulity toward Long Con here does not look like a teammate interaction. The term "miller" isn't used much around here (unless you're asking me what I'm having ), and LC's equating it to something akin to a seemer is understandable. Soneji's tone looks genuine rather than fake, which I consider an ever-so-slight point in LC's favor.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Have you seen the movie?

I have a harder time with one. This interaction seems easier to fake. That doesn't mean it was.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 am Tbh I don't doubt speedchuck for now. I am not good with Zootopia I have slowly to get into it. But aren't predators on the side of the protagonists?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:19 am [VOTE: chuck] aubergine for claiming predator

Don't tell me you slipped and tell me town is splitt in 2 factions. Let's get it straight ahead.

Predators are the ones being framed and are only on the side of the protagonist's yes.

As for the second part, if there was some split town mechanic this would usually be known to all townies and there is nothing like that in my role PM. Normally such things are a versus mechanic.

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:19 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 2:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 1:42 pm I eat your passive. Nom Nom.

Predator claim noted

he is baiting predator claims

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:51 pm All predators are not wolves

he is defending predator claims

what you guys want to achieve?

I'm pretty sure he is just making a joke based on the alternate name of scum/mafia being wolves.

These interactions give me the strongest perspective of the bunch, namely that Rej is a civilian.

What I have to consider here is that Soneji did not let speedchuck answer for himself. He answered for him, and this is the only instance of Soneji doing such a thing. It doesn't have to mean anything, but considering speedchuck was unwilling to vote Soneji, it's something.

I will add that Soneji's final post was to vote Kylemii for the goofiest reason imaginable:

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 pm Hosting back to back Pathfinder sessions to make up for failing my players other weeks taking up all my time and energy. Don't really have a feel for this game yet.

Vote : KyleMii

Their bad attempts at playing around with the movies name lasting past day 0 is yikes.

This is a softball suspicion, over-hyped ("yikes"), and nobody was ever going to lynch Kylemii Day 1 even if the devil himself got a tattoo on his ass that read "Kylemii."

Soneji didn't pursue it, didn't ask Kylemii questions, and did absolutely nothing with his vote after this.

Kylemii is my #1 suspect moving into Day 2.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:43 pm Man, a lot of people sheeped that vote.
But it's okay, because Soneji was ba-a-a-a-ad.
Ewe could say he was a wolf in sheep's clothing
But then I would lamb-aste you for making such an obvious pun-joke-thing.

speedchuck the GOAT

We're not bad together though.

True story:

The last time Soneji and I were on a team together, I was away and unable to participate, and Sonji got lynched Day 1.

I was away and unable to participate tonight.

My super power truly is doing shit and then not doing shit when it's time to vote.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:09 pm You two are too cute.

I ought to vote you just for saying that. I'll have you know we hate each other to the very core.


Alright, a couple hours left, now what?

I had no idea.

Also, dibs on cereal mascot Mafia.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:27 pm All of nutella's posts are 2 words. What does it mean?

She's Two Can Sam.

Now take your filthy vote off me and put somewhere where it might do some good.

I'm not the baker in this house.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:38 pm I threw a vote on a dude like birdwithteeth for no reason, and indiglo said nothing.

I threw a vote on a lady like Spacedaisy for no reason, and indiglo said I was being opportunistic.

Why is that?

Pssst... BWT has posted in the game, Daisy has not.

Also I am friends with Daisy. Although, she's about to get much busier IRL, so might appreciate being taken out of the game.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:23 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:44 pm I'm moving my vote to Spacedaisy.

Why Spacedaisy out of curiosity?

Also, sorry for my last post about the drinking. I just woke up and did not use emoticons to indicate a teasing tone and not a bitchy tone. Im sorry epi!

I was trying to be funny myself.

No reason regarding Spacedaisy- if anything, it's that she's probably very busy right now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:16 pm I'm concerned about Epi having 2 votes. Would much rather lynch someone who hasn't really shown up.

I'm not bothered.

I feel ignored. =(

You feel impatient.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:41 pm So are you saying indiglo is wide eyed scum, with Daisy specifically? Dun dun duuun

I'll say this: indiglo is the one I'm most confident in labeling a civilian, and I'll tell you why:

I went after birdwithteeth, and she said nothing. I went after Spacedaisy, and she threw a fit.

She said nothing in the first case, and called me opportunistic in the second (or, as indiglo would remind us, that we are partners and I'm up for murdering my own teammate, which isn't something I do unless my hand is forced).

I believe the disparity between her reactions is that indiglo was defending Spacedaisy the person and not Spacedaisy's role. If memory serves, the two are friends and know each other from Mafia of Ages Past. I know indiglo was one of the first people on this site. Also, indiglo hates birdwithteeth [citation needed].

What indiglo's reaction tells me is that she does not know Spacedaisy's alignment (she accused us both on one hand, as she reminded us) and that she was going to bat for a friend who isn't around, and if she is bad with Spacedaisy, I don't think she'd be so bold as to double down on this defense by casting a vote for me.

indiglo gets a civilian cookie for Day 1.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:16 pm I'm concerned about Epi having 2 votes. Would much rather lynch someone who hasn't really shown up.

I'm not bothered.

I threw a vote on a dude like birdwithteeth for no reason, and indiglo said nothing.

I threw a vote on a lady like Spacedaisy for no reason, and indiglo said I was being opportunistic.

Why is that?

My point is that you came to Spacedaisy's defense. You might not have done that if I had not voted her. Hence, you jumped.

Now I have to judge why.

In both of the scenarios you gave, I am presumed to be mafia and Spacedaisy is presumed to be a civilian, even though she has no posts. It's markedly circular. I can only be opportunistic if I'm bad. Do you think Spacedaisy is getting lynched Day 1?

I don't.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:26 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Those are two possibilities.

Another is that I voted her to see who would jump.

You jumped.

Nope. No jump here. Try again.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:15 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Seems opportunistic to me. Of course, maybe she's your scum buddy, and bussing her as a no-show could work out for you.

OTOH, it's easy to lynch a no-show, because even if she flips town you can say, "well she should have posted".

Those are two possibilities.

Another is that I voted her to see who would jump.

You jumped.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine


I don't like the Daisy votes. Now speedchuck has voted her too. She hasn't even posted once yet. It feels weird.

What don't you like about them?

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:44 pm I'm moving my vote to Spacedaisy.

Why Spacedaisy out of curiosity?

Also, sorry for my last post about the drinking. I just woke up and did not use emoticons to indicate a teasing tone and not a bitchy tone. Im sorry epi!

I was trying to be funny myself.

No reason regarding Spacedaisy- if anything, it's that she's probably very busy right now.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:35 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:28 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:07 pm Oh hello. I was too hungover to say hi yesterday. Drinking after 30 is rough.

I am playing this game.

I'm 35. I've been drinking since 4pm. I'm fine and will be fine tomorrow. I'm about to have a bourbon and watch the rest of this Rockies game.

Where do I send your medal? Do you need congratulations?

I don't need a participation medal, thanks.

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:18 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:00 am birdswithteeth
epignosis
speedchuck
spacedaisy
owner of a lonely heart

Soul reads?

I don't know how you do that from Day 1, but I want to learn. I guess I could just fake it and say a list of names. But some how that doesn't feel right.

Also, I am a sweaty mess. So, shower, bed, and mafia tomorrow.


Linki ~ yep, soul reads.

That's how you do it.

Can you spot mafia?

"Nine hours" ain't no cocktail I ever heard of.

I'm moving my vote to Spacedaisy.

Rey has three votes. I understand why. I don't agree with the approach, but I get it.

Cbob suggests I don't entirely get it, but he didn't elaborate after I said that mafia used the tactic against a civilian the last time.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:07 pm Oh hello. I was too hungover to say hi yesterday. Drinking after 30 is rough.

I am playing this game.

I'm 35. I've been drinking since 4pm. I'm fine and will be fine tomorrow. I'm about to have a bourbon and watch the rest of this Rockies game.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:43 am

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:39 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:37 am [VOTE: rej] aubergine

can you explain your vote on me? this is neither a RVS vote nor a GTH pressure vote

I can, yes.

I'll wait and see if anybody else figures out why though.

Yes, we get it.

The last time this "tactic" was used (angle shooting), it was mafia using it against a civilian.

It's Day 1. Talk you animals.

birdwithteeth has a vote.

Because he's a bird and I like birds.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 10:04 pmI'm drbunk

Dr. Bunk?

Yes, yes you are.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:21 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:19 pm Guys I think I might be a lynchproof deathproof serial killer

I mean, the host didn't tell me I was

But I can't trust that guy

I'm a role nullifier. I'll be in touch.

No kidding!

I married one of those.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 4:14 pm Effective immediately, Epignosis replaces Dragomir

Well shit.

Hello.