The Syndicate

Spacedaisy has moved to Dom.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:39 am Hey Epig, by voting for Jay you're not so much putting Jay at a greater chance of lynching as you are putting Jack and Dom into potential close tie scenario

Should this concern me?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:00 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:55 pm How about Dom? He's a great lynch, am I right?
If the deadline was in five seconds I'd vote for Dom.

This makes you a suspect for me. For real.

The deadline isn't in five seconds. I didn't ask you if Dom is a good five-second candidate. I asked you if he's a good lynch. Your response was nothing more than a way to put your vote on him at the end if that's how things worked out.

Before this, you just talk. You just...take a dump on the thread with stuff about "meta-reads:"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:50 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:15 am this is not a post indicative on how I personally feel about sig and speedchuck at this time but

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 pm sig as a civilian pirate was more engaged and effortful in the high-octane Day 1 aboard the pirate ship than he was in this high-octane Day 1. Bad vibes.
Yeah, but Day 1 was over Thanksgiving holidays wasn't it?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 pm speedchuck was willing to engage suspects pointedly, and he cut down his suspect pool with transparent civilian reads (or at least pledges not to lynch). I also like the tone he exhibited in his handling of the Epi/LC feud. Good vibes.
You reference the pirate game to give a meta based read on sig, but what about speedchuck's general aura in the beginning of pirates game when he was throwing up statistics and reads? Yet one of those gave you good vibes and the other bad vibes.
Meta reads have their place, but they are usually not ideal as a sole means of drawing reads. There's an application for them with low-content players who haven't provided the material necessary to assess them in preferable ways, i.e. thorough analysis, tone reads, or face value judgments of civilian utility. At the time I answered that prompt, I think sig had like five or six posts. For me, that's not often enough to develop an intuition. I'm willing to draw a read from the tabletop crumbs when I must, and often that's a time for a meta read to have some value. When there's more content available, as there was with speedchuck in that moment, then a purely meta read means less to me. It can still be a *component*, but it's going to move me less than my intuited reception of content at face value.

This is all discussing Mafia, but not this Mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay

I see Kylemii has joined the Dom train.

Unless someone persuades me elsewhere, my vote is staying on Dom. I think speedchuck is cool (even if he's disappointing my wife), Long Con is an asshole toward me (which probably means he's good), and Jack is voting in self-preservation.

Bitches pretending not to understand what I mean.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:00 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:55 pm How about Dom? He's a great lynch, am I right?
If the deadline was in five seconds I'd vote for Dom.

The deadline was fifteen minutes ago for many of us.

As much as I believe Sloonei is a civilian, at this point, I find it bizarre that he is voting for Jack. I'm not going to rehash why. Use your clicker thingies if you need a reminder.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:50 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:15 am this is not a post indicative on how I personally feel about sig and speedchuck at this time but

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 pm sig as a civilian pirate was more engaged and effortful in the high-octane Day 1 aboard the pirate ship than he was in this high-octane Day 1. Bad vibes.
Yeah, but Day 1 was over Thanksgiving holidays wasn't it?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 pm speedchuck was willing to engage suspects pointedly, and he cut down his suspect pool with transparent civilian reads (or at least pledges not to lynch). I also like the tone he exhibited in his handling of the Epi/LC feud. Good vibes.
You reference the pirate game to give a meta based read on sig, but what about speedchuck's general aura in the beginning of pirates game when he was throwing up statistics and reads? Yet one of those gave you good vibes and the other bad vibes.
Meta reads have their place, but they are usually not ideal as a sole means of drawing reads. There's an application for them with low-content players who haven't provided the material necessary to assess them in preferable ways, i.e. thorough analysis, tone reads, or face value judgments of civilian utility. At the time I answered that prompt, I think sig had like five or six posts. For me, that's not often enough to develop an intuition. I'm willing to draw a read from the tabletop crumbs when I must, and often that's a time for a meta read to have some value. When there's more content available, as there was with speedchuck in that moment, then a purely meta read means less to me. It can still be a *component*, but it's going to move me less than my intuited reception of content at face value.

How about Dom? He's a great lynch, am I right?

I care about getting you to make good decisions.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:48 pm
That is not all that surprising.

I don't care about surprising you.

Here's a fun fact from JJJ's chart. Or a few fun facts, really.

JJJ replaced MP, who did nothing.

Dunya replaced sprityo, who was suspected, but really did nothing.

Seven of eight people called JJJ good.

Two of eight people called Dunya good.

I am far more inclined to believe that Dunya is good over 3J based on content alone.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:52 pm
I'd do chuck.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:05 pm I want to know your reason for voting dom, epi.

If any member of the mafia can submit the kill for the team, then I don't care about keeping inactives around when they aren't contributing. On one level, this is still Day 1 due to an inordinate number of survivals.

It is almost certain Dom will not survive a lynch, and therefore, it is less likely that Dom is a civilian.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:49 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:49 pm The issue I'm running into is that at this point I suspect both dunya and jack, but they can't both be bad, dunya is voting for Jack, Jack is being irregularly difficult at all times.
I'd be up for a dunya lynch. I keep having this nagging voice in the back of my head that says, "She's bad, Tasha. B. A. D." But part of me feels bad because she does aeem to be really on top of things and very helpful, especially for a replacement.
There are a number of people doing fuck all, and people seriously want to lynch someone who, in my opinion, breathed life into a stagnant thread?

If Dunya is bad, let her keep talking.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:23 pmRegardless of his alignment, I respect a guy who takes a principled stance and refuses to answer a question in good conscience.

So I'll take this stance:

I'm not voting for Jack today. Four mafia out there. Jack may well be one, but I'm not voting for him today. Maybe tomorrow if the fancy strikes. I don't believe anybody will believe we're teammates even if he is bad, so I don't even care on that front.
This almost had me voting for Dom, then,

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:49 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:49 pm The issue I'm running into is that at this point I suspect both dunya and jack, but they can't both be bad, dunya is voting for Jack, Jack is being irregularly difficult at all times.
I'd be up for a dunya lynch. I keep having this nagging voice in the back of my head that says, "She's bad, Tasha. B. A. D." But part of me feels bad because she does aeem to be really on top of things and very helpful, especially for a replacement.
There are a number of people doing fuck all, and people seriously want to lynch someone who, in my opinion, breathed life into a stagnant thread?
I like the sound of that.

I buy that.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:38 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:22 pmYou're rejecting perceptions before easing concerns. You're saying "I wasn't an active force in Pirates" when you should be saying "I'm actually not someone who takes the front line" if what they're saying is false about your playstyle.
Well.... The thing is, I don't really know what I'm like yet.

I'm still in the process of rebuilding and understanding my own meta.

I could tell you how I used to play before I left RM two years ago, I could tell you about how I'd focus so much on mafia that I'd get really burnt out on it and disappear for days at a time and miss votes and sometimes forget to send in night actions. I could tell you how I played before the exodus that happened before that one when I had seemingly boundless energy and consistently made 2x as many posts as anyone else in many of the threads.

None of those are me anymore. Playing the way I used to made me tired and anxious all the time, so I'm making a conscious effort this time around to adjust my meta to be less toxic.

I'm not interested in what Kylemii did in this game or that or what he usually does here or there. What is he doing here, independently of those other places, that makes you think good or ill of him? That question goes for anyone with an opinion.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:29 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:14 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:05 pm I'm done listening to Jack and Dunya. You two hit the showers. I want people talking about other people.
Who do you want to talk about?
I don't want to talk about anyone. I want people talking about other people:

"Jack and Dunya are dead. Who gets your vote and why?"
I'm indecisive. I go back and forth on my reads on people. Sloonei, probably.
How did Sloonei apparently survive the lynch Day 2, or, alternatively, why did he say lynching him would be a waste of time?
I don't know. Do you?

I don't know. But it is something you should strongly consider if you are thinking about lynching Sloonei.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:52 pm Dammit epi, you inspired me.

vote dom

How did I inspire you?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:14 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:05 pm I'm done listening to Jack and Dunya. You two hit the showers. I want people talking about other people.
Who do you want to talk about?
I don't want to talk about anyone. I want people talking about other people:

"Jack and Dunya are dead. Who gets your vote and why?"
I'm indecisive. I go back and forth on my reads on people. Sloonei, probably.

How did Sloonei apparently survive the lynch Day 2, or, alternatively, why did he say lynching him would be a waste of time?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:05 pm I'm done listening to Jack and Dunya. You two hit the showers. I want people talking about other people.
Who do you want to talk about?

I don't want to talk about anyone. I want people talking about other people:

"Jack and Dunya are dead. Who gets your vote and why?"

I'm done listening to Jack and Dunya. You two hit the showers. I want people talking about other people.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:58 pm
And... I really think a jack lynch is a bad idea. I think he is good, y'all.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:37 pm Elohcin
Mesk514
JaggedJimmyJay
Spacedaisy
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Kylemii
DrWilgy
insertnamehere
colonialbob
sig
sprityo
Quin
Sloonei
Dom
nutella
Long Con

That much checks out.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:52 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:07 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:43 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:53 pm
YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.
INH replaced in with time to submit a kill for Night 1.

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

insertnamehere posted elsewhere at 11:36pm EST this same evening.
And dunya said that she thinks there is more of a team kill rather than a specific role that can send in the kill because if it were a specific role then marmot would have replaced her there.

So if only the killer mafia role is allowed to send in a kill, then I think it has to velong toneither INH or dunya. Most likely INH since he replaced in first. @Marmot can the team send in the kill as a group pm? (Hey... doesn't hurt to ask, right?)
Sure!

Sure it doesn't hurt to ask, or sure the team can send in teammates' actions?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:49 pm The issue I'm running into is that at this point I suspect both dunya and jack, but they can't both be bad, dunya is voting for Jack, Jack is being irregularly difficult at all times.
I'd be up for a dunya lynch. I keep having this nagging voice in the back of my head that says, "She's bad, Tasha. B. A. D." But part of me feels bad because she does aeem to be really on top of things and very helpful, especially for a replacement.

There are a number of people doing fuck all, and people seriously want to lynch someone who, in my opinion, breathed life into a stagnant thread?

If Dunya is bad, let her keep talking.

I'm voting Dom.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:01 pm Dunya setting up the mislynch.

Why did you use the word "mislynch?" Hmm?

Spoiler: show

The entire "mislynch" angle? Fake.

Dunya said English isn't her first language.

I understood what you meant (even if you were mistaken about what I said), and I do not hold the use of the word against you. The word in context made perfect sense to me.

If you do get mislynched, by the way, I won't feel bad.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:01 pm Dunya setting up the mislynch.

Why did you use the word "mislynch?" Hmm?

Spoiler: show

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:49 pm The issue I'm running into is that at this point I suspect both dunya and jack, but they can't both be bad, dunya is voting for Jack, Jack is being irregularly difficult at all times.

There are four mafia. Four.

You don't need to sit there and work out which one of Jack or Dunya is bad.

In fact, I think a Jack lynch is a trap anyway. He was tied with Sloonei. So what? Why is the apparent fact of a tie noteworthy? In a tie, somebody was going to get lynched regardless. There was no lynch. If vote manipulations were his only method of survival, Jack only needed to vote Sloonei and nothing would have been said on the matter had Sloonei been lynched. There was literally no risk in that avenue. Any other avenue bought him undue risk.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:19 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:17 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:13 pm The problem is I don't think answering the questions requires roleclaiming or even going towards that line if he does the work and explores all aspects of the event equally.
If I think Sprityo really got lynched, I'd only think so if I was Everest. So yes or no am I Everest?

Why did I say I was almost lynched? Was it because I stopped the lynch, have an extra vote or just forgot ties would result in no lynch on Day One only?

You are asking me to roleclaim. I'm not going to.
I'm not asking you to roleclaiming I'm asking you to explain the discrepancies in your actions and your supposed stance on roleclaiming. I'm also asking you to please stop avoiding questions.

Regardless of his alignment, I respect a guy who takes a principled stance and refuses to answer a question in good conscience.

So I'll take this stance:

I'm not voting for Jack today. Four mafia out there. Jack may well be one, but I'm not voting for him today. Maybe tomorrow if the fancy strikes. I don't believe anybody will believe we're teammates even if he is bad, so I don't even care on that front.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:05 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:03 pm @speedchuck, not that it makes a huge difference, but I am actually a "she". Going through your post now.
I knew that. I say it under your avatar and made note of it. And then it completely slipped past me.

@Quin That's an interesting vote on a player I have trouble reading most of the time. Can I get a summary of why?
I've had success reading her in the past. This doesn't feel like good Eloh.

I don't think she's following through on her cases in the way a civilian would. She'll say that something is suspicious and that'll be the end of it, like she's rejecting any attempt to change her mind. She's done that with me and LC in this game.

I don't believe in her rainbow list because I don't see how Lasagne could be one of anybody's top town reads. She mentioned genuinity in her posts, with Lasagne only having one, maybe two posts of workable content. The rest is, as I said before, mainly "I'm here!" posts.

Assuming that's Mesk you are talking about, I will believe Mesk is civilian before I believe 50% of the rest of the crowd is, including you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay - EGH
JJJ is never scum.
No, but really, I don't know what he'd be like as scum. If he's leading, and leading well, mafia will probably kill him and take care of things for us. If they start killing other leaders and JJJ takes control of the game, wipe him.
This is gross. All it is is an invitation for JJJ-less mafia to burn a lynch. Gross.
Yeah, shoot. Mafia ain't gonna take him out now. They know if they don't, you eventually will! I don't think this was a wise posy to make if you are civ, chuck.
I leave 3J alive all the time when I'm bad.
Well now if 3J survives we gotta lynch Epi. Logic is logic.

3J survives because he can't be killed.

Epignosis survives because he can't be lynched.

That's what's trending.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:36 pm And I doubt epi will give you his opinion of me. He stopped doing that games ago as people took it like gospel truth and pinned me inall sorts of nonsensical ways. But if he does...it will be a bit later as he is playing sports atm. hahahahaha!!! Playing sports.

The joke is I don't actually play sports, you see.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:34 pm
Hi dunya. Meet Eloh, sideline girl.

Holy shit. Are we married or are we married?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:33 pm Had that comment come from Kyle*

I need to pay attention to my irregular verbs.

Why? Nobody else in America do.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:14 pm As a strong town read for me, and as Eloh's husband, I'm very curious what your read on her is as of this second. Please share.

I have no compelling reason to view her as bad or good.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:58 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:14 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:32 am
Elohcin wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:39 am I don't like this Epi lynch. Feels like there's a bunch of scum surrounding him like vultures waiting to see if they can lynch him or not. Lots of people "kind of" wanting to vote for him.
I agree with this.

Posting but still catching up.
What does Elohcin thinks about the people "kind of" wanting to vote for him? Maybe she's answered this. if not, I'd like one.

*ebwop
So. I was just agreeing to the part that I didn't like this Epi lynch. It felt like stupid reasons for a suspension of him and those that agreed with it could be bad and trying to reach for something that others might grab onto.

I think its funny how it seems to have all just gone away and LC is in agreement with Epi on a dom lynch.

I kind of agree with epi on voting a low poster. Other than my suspicion of LC and my slight suspicion of nutella (half the time her posts crack me up and half the time I'm hinking wtf), I do think that the high posters seem to be civ and genuinely trying to help.

Still reading....
Very suspicious post. Way too agreeable throughout. She did defend Epi a lot, he is her husband irl you have to remember and we have a sore spot for our lovers (except me, I am heartless), but apart from that...what has Eloh contributed?????????????

Where has she been outspoken and actually formed any leads and suspects of her own??

I don't think I've ever played with her before, but she just seems to be sidelining this game (apart from the Epi defending).

Dunya, meet Eloh. Eloh, Dunya.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:53 pm (I swear I'm a nicer person irl)

As much as he pisses me off, I can't get mad at Jack. I get it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:17 pm I'm thinking through the possibilities where both Sloonei and Jack could be telling the truth

1. Jack is chimbarazoa and stole Everest. Easy enough. But still incredibly uncertain. Not certain enough to walk in and say you were almost lynched because even if his vote for sprityo was +1, that still would have made a 3 way tie, ignoring all other manip that Jack wouldn't be aware of. Not enough to be confident of survival

2. Sloonei and Jack take up both the roles of Aconcagua and Pico Cristóbal. This depends on whether Aconcagua'a survival of attempts on life refer to nightkilled only or lynches too so.... @Marmot hit us up with that sweet sweet beautiful knowledge

3. one of Sloonei or Jack Chimborazoaed Aconcagua, Pico Cristóbal cannot be Chimborazoaed cus Picó Cristobal is too short. this seems unlikely as it would take some wild early-game guesswork.

This is why I believe Sloonei stopped the lynch. He called it a waste of time. Jack said he was "almost lynched."

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:14 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:07 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:43 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:53 pm
YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.
INH replaced in with time to submit a kill for Night 1.

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

insertnamehere posted elsewhere at 11:36pm EST this same evening.
And dunya said that she thinks there is more of a team kill rather than a specific role that can send in the kill because if it were a specific role then marmot would have replaced her there.

So if only the killer mafia role is allowed to send in a kill, then I think it has to velong toneither INH or dunya. Most likely INH since he replaced in first. @Marmot can the team send in the kill as a group pm? (Hey... doesn't hurt to ask, right?)
I don't think the mafia team failed to kill. I think protections happened. I think this is barking up the wrong tree. I don't like speculating based on replacements, as we're basically basing our reads on how well Marmot is handling his game. I know it's hard to ignore, but I would assume that Marmot has handled the game in a way that didn't completely screw over the mafia team, since anything else is unfalsifiable, unconfirmable, and slightly disrespectful.

I agree with speedchuck regarding all points. My look into when INH subbed in was only to see if he would have been eligible to send in a kill. He was. That doesn't tell me much.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay - EGH
JJJ is never scum.
No, but really, I don't know what he'd be like as scum. If he's leading, and leading well, mafia will probably kill him and take care of things for us. If they start killing other leaders and JJJ takes control of the game, wipe him.
This is gross. All it is is an invitation for JJJ-less mafia to burn a lynch. Gross.
Yeah, shoot. Mafia ain't gonna take him out now. They know if they don't, you eventually will! I don't think this was a wise posy to make if you are civ, chuck.

I leave 3J alive all the time when I'm bad.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:53 pm
YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.

INH replaced in with time to submit a kill for Night 1.

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

insertnamehere posted elsewhere at 11:36pm EST this same evening.

Two failed kills.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:27 am Nobody wants to discuss why it's Day 2 and everybody is still alive? Okay.

Possibility #1: Aconcagua was targeted with the kill.

Possibility #2: Chimborazo was targeted with the kill and borrowed Aconcagua ability that same night.

Possibility #3: Kilimanjaro was targeted with the kill and activated its ability that same night (which I hope isn't the case).

Possibility #4: Mont Blanc did the Tube Snake Boogie and one of the above also happened.

Possibility #5: Matterhorn ???

Possibility #6: Olympus Mons ???

Possibility #7: Wrekin, England is the only member of the team able to submit a kill, and he was asleep at the hill.

If two kills were indeed attempted, two different instances of possibilities one through six must have transpired.

If #7 is the correct answer, and the kill is transferred to someone else on the team upon Wrekin's death, then we could keep the inactives alive to relieve the mafia of their kill until they are replaced and a kill comes in.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:03 pm @Epignosis

What do you think of Bob and Dunya?

If you haven't already read Speed, what do you think of him?

I have no opinion of colonialbob.

I do not find Dunya's contributions to be manufactured. There was one thing she said that I felt otherwise about, but someone else asked about it and she clarified and all was right again.

I do not believe speedchuck is bad.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay - EGH
JJJ is never scum.
No, but really, I don't know what he'd be like as scum. If he's leading, and leading well, mafia will probably kill him and take care of things for us. If they start killing other leaders and JJJ takes control of the game, wipe him.
This is gross. All it is is an invitation for JJJ-less mafia to burn a lynch. Gross.

What is your read on JJJ?

I don't understand the proliferation of rolled eyes. Your comment is nothing more than a universal notion that JJJ must always be Night killed or lynched late in the game, which is a clever reason to keep him alive when you are bad.

I hold mild suspicion of him, as I always do.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:41 pm
Okay so...why did you think LC was bad then?

I didn't really- other than harboring a suspicion that was rooted in my view that only someone evil could propose the nonsense he proposed about me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:31 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:27 pm To Jack:

My work browser is now blocking the full editor page.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... f=28&t=726

I think that was it.
Thanks. Two years.

I don't think I've ever been lynched on Day 1. I've seen it happen or almost to Doc and Sprityo several times and I've only been here a year.

I think your conclusion that Day 1 lynches are a crapshoot and anyone can be lynched on Day 1 is incorrect. I stand by my statement that you would be a difficult mislynch target and that this causes your LC accusation to not feel genuine.

Oh ffs.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:26 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:34 pm
I told you I wasn't going to explain things to you that you already know.
You have a terrible habit of assuming your interpretation of a sentence or phrase is gospel.

Anyone is an easy lynch Day 1. That's because many people take the mindset that Day 1 is a crapshoot, and that the real utility of Day 1 is the acquisition of information. Any lynch will provide that.

You are taking my "easy lynch" comment to mean that I am referring to Epignosis being a an easy lynch, which is your mistake. If Day 1 is a guessing game, then lazily piling up votes on me is an easy thing to do. Saying I meant that I am an easy lynch in general is your mistake. When people pile up votes on anyone for stupid reasons (or no reason at all), it makes for a quick and easy lynch. Anybody could be that.

I did not develop the conclusion that Days 1 are crapshoots.

To Jack:

My work browser is now blocking the full editor page.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... f=28&t=726

I think that was it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay - EGH
JJJ is never scum.
No, but really, I don't know what he'd be like as scum. If he's leading, and leading well, mafia will probably kill him and take care of things for us. If they start killing other leaders and JJJ takes control of the game, wipe him.

This is gross. All it is is an invitation for JJJ-less mafia to burn a lynch. Gross.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:39 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:56 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:05 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:06 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:19 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:15 pm I've enjoyed reading dunya's catch up posts.

I want to address mesk's play. Who was it that said they had played with her as civ before and she was really fierce? She seems so genuine to me, but that info doesn't allign with her behavior. I think she needs to be up for discussion today.

Linki...by the way... I can never address linki because on my phone, the left side of linki gets cut off for some reason. Just thought I'd share.
I don't think her absence for 6 days is indicative of her alignment. That's what I would like to sway people away from.
Yes, as town, a wrongly accused town, she gets very vocal and aggressively defensive. She hasn't been on the frying pan though, indeed, she hasn't even been on the forum for 6 days so....we can't say she's scum because she's not here.
This is oddly defensive, imo.

Dunya replaced in awesomely with great effort. What if she is too good to be true? What if there have been no night kills because of a quiet mafia and two of them are mesk and now dunya? Just really spitting this out real quick before I go watch tv with the family. I'm not fully caught up so tell me if I'm insane.
You're saying mafia was a blank space? Maybe. But I'd like some names.
Oh come on this was gold
Only because I know what it's like to make a joke that I find hilarious and no one else says a thing...

I don't get the joke.

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