The Syndicate

So iaafr doesn't know Kawhi Leonard. And it makes me ignorant.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 am Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?
An affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?

You seem to like what he's doing. Any outside commentary from someone I even remotely trust would be coveted.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 amim kawaii

Leonard?

Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:47 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:47 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:46 am i mean uh i play mafia and apparently you here at the syndicate are an expert at pushing civvies in a gamestate where mafia cannot be normally played and i do not know how to respond because my idea of playing mafia here is to like build cases from earlier days and flips and stuff, whcih i consider a core part of the game of forum mafia, but i cant, and you cant sympathize with this frustration, because your scum
My scum what?
your so egotistical u just assume its not intentional

I know your writing style now. It may have been intentional. I don't care if it was intentional.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:46 am i mean uh i play mafia and apparently you here at the syndicate are an expert at pushing civvies in a gamestate where mafia cannot be normally played and i do not know how to respond because my idea of playing mafia here is to like build cases from earlier days and flips and stuff, whcih i consider a core part of the game of forum mafia, but i cant, and you cant sympathize with this frustration, because your scum

My scum what?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:40 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:36 am Is iaafr a civilian or mafia? Why?
Well I’ve read this thread pretty piecemeal so no getting onto me for missing a specific think like you did earlier.

I think he’s scum. I don’t believe he scumread Drago D1. I really don’t believe he’s think Colin/Dom/Jack is the best path to victory if he’s town.

I mean, I’m the kind of guy who wolves trip over themselves trying to mislynch cause I don’t look scary. Iaafr looks like a Jay. Wolves only push Jay to distract him or to mimic townness.

Like why does town iaafr think Dom is scum? Or Colin? Or Nova for that matter?

I refuse to let ALL CAPS / emotional manipulation / "I'm not answering your questions" / YOUR GASLIGHTING ME INTO THINKING / I'm not talking to you but I still am and I'm still here even though I said bye /

set the tone for The Syndicate. We play better here. Do not bring that shit into my house.

I also suspect Colin and Jack. So Colin / iaafr / Jack. Good three.

Is iaafr a civilian or mafia? Why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:34 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:25 am "GASLIGHITNG ME INTO SAYING ITS NOT BELIEVABLE"

I don't even know what this means. I'm 36.
I thought you were like 80.

36 is like 80.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:33 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:34 pm its like youre being intentionally obtuse and irritating
Lol meet Epi.

Who is Lol?

And does she have big boobs?

Good night, iaafr. Hope you feel better tomorrow morning.

"GASLIGHITNG ME INTO SAYING ITS NOT BELIEVABLE"

I don't even know what this means. I'm 36.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:22 am I SAID YOURE MAFIA ALREADY

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:20 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:19 am NO I CARE ABOUT SETTING THE RECORD AGAINST YOUR GASLIGHTING STRAIGHT BECAUSE THATS A NATURAL HUMAN IMPULSE AGAINST THE SENSE OF INJUSTICE
IF YOU CANNOT SYMPATHIZE WITH THIS I REALLY REALLY QUESTION YOUR FACULTIES OF EMPATHY

It's a fucking game. If you care about injustice, then maybe consider that I'm mafia and start backing me into a corner, eh?

Oh wait, I'm not supposed to tell you how to play...whoops. My B.

Yeah, I need more adult conversation in the thread. Yikes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:17 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:22 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:21 pm i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now
Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?
Seriously tho. I’m the troll host around these parts.

So Jack, what's up? How's the kids?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:18 am AND YOU KEEP ASKING ME QUESTIONS AS IF I SHOULD CARE

I DONT CARE

IVE SAID I DONT CARE

I STILL DONT CARE

BUT YOU KEEP NEEDLING ME

Nope, you clearly do not care whatsoever. It is amazing how little you care.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:17 am WHICH I ALSO STATED YESTERDAY AND YOU ARE ALSO NOT LIKELY TO BELIEVE BUT THATS OK BECAUSE AS IVE STATED THREE TIMES ALREADY I DONT CARE IF YOU SUSPECT ME

You clearly do not care if I suspect you.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:16 am THE INFERENCE YOU SHOULD MAKE IS THAT I BELIEVED THAT MY VOTE WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY FOR HIM TO BE LYNCHED THAT DAY AND THEREFORE I COULD DO A SHOWY FANCY NO LYNCH IN ORDER TO GET LESS TOWNCRED TO LIVE LONGER [ASSUMING THE GAME HAD CONVENTIONAL NIGHTKILLS]

Now that is something.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:14 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:32 pm stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please
THIS IS THE REASON I DID NOT VOTE DRAGOMIR

BECAUSE I CORRECTLY READ THE GAMESTATE AS HIM ALWAYS BEING LYNCHED OVER 112 AT THE EOD MOMENT THAT DAY

Uh, okay. You're a suspect.

I appreciate that ALL CAPS by the way. I have struggling vision these days.

The only mention you have of Dragomir is that " i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right"

That doesn't answer why you didn't vote Dragomir.

In this thread, you have not said why you didn't vote Dragomir. So please tell me again.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:07 am and youre able to accuse me of lying because i can only bring up stuff ic ant prove because i cant go back in gamethreads n stuff HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO FUCKING TROLL DUDE HOW DO YOU NOT GET HOW TROLL THIS IS

If this is directed at me, I have only brought up things you have said yourself in here as well as your vote record. You do not need Day 1's thread to answer.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:42 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:39 pm its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ
I am saying I have this:

"i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1"

coming from someone who didn't vote to save 112 when it was very close.

Truly you can't expect me to let that pass.

1. I am granting you this. You don't need to point to it. I am accepting it as truth.

2. You didn't vote to save 112. That's demonstrably true.

So why did you not vote Dragomir when you wanted to save 112?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:06 am the funniest thing is i did do work n1 and read a lot of isos

i just didnt prep posts like you did

Lesson learned.

Why are you afraid of some of my questions?

Jack, iaafr, ColinisCool

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:05 am cant reread d1 with flips.

cant reread d2 and have no new flips other than boo, which was an accident

my whole system is gone

and youre scum because youre attacking me over sympathizing with this as a huge roadblock in playing mafia

Sympathizing with you doesn't accomplish anything. Asking you questions does.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:04 am i like scumhunting by reading threads and convincing people with cases on later days of the game like this day

except the gamethreads all gone n stuff so

What did you contribute Day 2 when I posted stuff on everyone? Had quotes and all.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:02 am but the posts are gone i cant even iso dom to show how he just did a really bad tunnel on me and hardly anything else

I told everyone to copy and paste posts that might be important to them. Did anybody do that?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:02 am i am fragile by nature and i cannot find a straightforward way to enjoy this gamestate as a town player. apologies.

So why do you play Mafia?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:01 am honestly the only option here is to keep trolling the game to find enjoyment so fair warning thats whats about to happen

No, that's not what's about to happen.

Stop defending yourselves! Accuse somebody! Move boxes! Do anything!

Come on! Don't be so fragile! It's a game on the Internet! Just roll with it.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:56 pm every push on me feels dumb

I am trying to understand what is going on in your brain. You are a candidate to get my vote because I can understand things elsewhere. If you shut down and don't explain your thought process to me, I have no choice but to assume you are mafia. That is all. To that end, I need an answer to this:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:42 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:39 pm its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ
I am saying I have this:

"i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1"

coming from someone who didn't vote to save 112 when it was very close.

Truly you can't expect me to let that pass.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:52 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:41 pm pawn lelouch

is epignosis being fair to me right now?
He is heavily overemphasizing the lack of a vote on D1. Yeah, it wasn't ideal that you didn't put one on Drago to clinch it but unvoting 112 is still a push towards that, and notably one you had been hinting at for a damn good while. I even called you out on it when you said "completely unexpected betrayal" with everyone expected it, since you had been doing blatant hinting.

And even with that initial waver, everything else within the game has been pure town you. Since the beginning of D1.

And yeah, Epi hasn't seen a fair bit of your playstyle for some context, but it's not a overall scummy set of posts even without that. So I do think that the overemphasis that he's been placing is a fair bit too much.

And while I'm enjoying the game I do consider it bastard and somewhat disorienting. I agree with you on that and think Epi not considering it as such is a case of just trying to defend his friends over the truth. Since if this isn't considered bastard over here, I do hate to see what would be considered as such.

I am not being unfair. I am asking questions. I am stating concerns. If iaafr can't handle that, then I don't know what to do.

As for this setup, I'm reserving judgment. Anyway, either play it or get replaced. Stop complaining about it. That's for anybody.

To put it another way, if you are a civilian, you have no reason to be emotionally distressed. The worst thing that happens is you get lynched and you get to stick your tongue out at the people who fucked up. This is a game.

That you are trying to claim that my simple questions are "legitimately emotionally distressing" only cements in my mind that you have a guilty conscience. If you are a civilian, and you believe I am one as well, then the only logical thing for you to do is work with me, answer my questions, and help me understand you (and by all means, ask me questions).

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:43 pm this is legitimately emotionally distressing

I am asking you a question, and you don't seem willing to answer it. I cannot assess your thought process otherwise. If you think I am being dishonest, then fine- accuse me. Instead you've decided to ignore me. I can't work with that.

You don't need to worry about me being fair to you.

You need to worry about me being honest with you.

Am I being honest with you?

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:39 pm its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ

I am saying I have this:

"i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1"

coming from someone who didn't vote to save 112 when it was very close.

Truly you can't expect me to let that pass.

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:43 pm Since there isn't anything to discuss at moment: Pawn Lelouch, what kind of music do you like?
Just since I'm up right now I feel obligated to ask you to post that in the interrogation room instead.

Fair enough.

And I don't care about a book about emotional intelligence. I care about finding mafia.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:37 pm

ill try to be jovial but its hard to get into that mode when people keep calling my reads bad without being specific and trying to teach me how to play when i think i know what im doing and im not asking for help

ill try not to get mad at pushes on me right now but people need to discuss more other people too or rehash/update views on others

i promised work this day, i'll do it. later. i hope dom doesn't generically assume it's written by scum again, but i'm prepared for the possibility.

I gave you specifics.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:32 pm i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

And if this is true at all...

...why in God's name didn't you vote Dragomir to add insurance so that 112 didn't die?

Bull

Spoiler: show

That's why.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:32 pm stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please

This means absolutely nothing to me. If you are mafia, you know who is bad. Dragomir's play was pretty lousy all around, and you saying he would get lynched doesn't mean shit. You don't win by guessing who would get lynched.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:34 pm its like youre being intentionally obtuse and irritating

Good day. I'm Epignosis.

We'll be friends by Monday morning.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:32 pm stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please

Oh my dear boy. I'm not teaching you. I'm warning you.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:27 pm i am forced into wanting to vote the least transparent players who want to kill me

{jack, dom, colin}

everybody else can live

sprityo wanted to kill me out of spite so he can live

This is not a hunt. This is "wah."

If they wanted to kill you, they would have done so by now.

Grow some big bunny balls and start asking people if they speak English in What.

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:28 pm i said it was the last id whine; please stop arguing with me about it.

Nope. You made it game relevant:

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:26 pm ^ how can anybody read the above posts and not see im clearly town spewing myself town because this isnt how id go about playing scum this game at all

I will now dissect those posts and ask you questions until I'm satisfied.

This is very different, I'll grant, but we do different on The Syndicate sometimes. Do your best regardless.

Do not think of it as a troll. Think of it as a challenge.

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