The Syndicate

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:06 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:03 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:31 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:29 pm @The Grumple what's your take at this moment?
Who is in your Poe?

I posted this a little earlier.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:24 pm Allison Taylor
The Grumple
Hugh Jass
Marge Simpson
Otto Mann
Principal Skinner

Bart Simpson
Grampa Simpson
Krusty the Clown
Lisa Simpson
Mr. Burns

some of this is flexible. Otto flashes downward whenever he goes after me or anyone else over things that aren't actually related to the game. It's so frequent and consistent and no one else seems bothered by it, so I have to assume that's just a personality trait.

You and Mr. Burns are basically in the bottom part because I haven't seen any particular reason to read you as town yet.

If you put me and Burns in the same tier that means the bottom is not ordered?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:51 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:13 pmYou and gramps were wonder twins yesterday! What killed the spark?

that was something that you decided on your own. we joked about having a similar name that's the only thing we have in common.

In your most recent colour coded list I'd like to point out two things which I always find scummy -

1) You included yourself, in green, on the list. I hate it when players include themselves in their own town reads.

that sounds like a "you" problem. I copy pasted the list from the front page.

2) That it's colour coded. I hate colour coded lists, just ask Kza.

this is also a you problem. Color coded lists are standard, or at least they have been in the past.

Further to point two, I gave you a hard time for not being succinct and you replied with "sorry I dont curate my posts", but then you take the time to curate a fucking colour coded list.
Puked in my mouth.

[VOTE: Grumple] aubergine

It takes 5 seconds to choose color tags you dork. I put the colors because I wanted to, and again because they're the universally understood standard for read lists.

If you want all your posts to be plain text, size 14 calibri font double spaced, with 1 sentence paragraphs and MLA formatting that is your prerogative, have fun with it.

if you say anything else on thie topic I promise to respond to you in bright yellow text forever
(or until I get bored of it)

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:44 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:23 pm The silence from Lisa is a bad look. She's had a wagon on her both nights and considering both yeets flipped town, you'd think that if she were town we'd be seeing some sense urgency to solve and take herself off the block with good play.

I get the feeling Grandpa has no desire to solve or take stand, yet will write a bunch of fluff and filler to look busy.

My vote will land on one of them tonight, not sure if I care which one.

that's where i'm at rn as well. of the cluster of people that have votes right now, the only person i think I wouldn't be comfortable voting for is Allison.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:15 pm

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:50 pm so the emotional pain didn't go away and on top of that now I have a sort of physical one as well

worth it for about 2 hours if you ask me

I see now while everyone posted things Marge wasn't really active.

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:55 pm

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 am Alcohol leads to violence.

That's noooot true!

Statistics says it is

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:17 pm Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

How do you feel now about your starting list?

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:21 pm [VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

For stealing my saxophone! ...And for telling us to post less after telling us to post more.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 am Heyyyyy. Otto might be blotto but Krusty smells like moldy cheese and awkward entrances.
Whoaaaaa

I'm not sure about that one Otto, I think Krusty's entrance is okay, and I think OMGUS is slightly town indicative.

I think now what Alison said was a misunderstanding.

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:41 pm [VOTE: skinner ] aubergine

First vote on Skinner, i wonder why him from a large pool of inactives?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:26 pm Feeling the same way with Burns saying his acct was messed up.

I lumped Burns, Skinner, Milhouse and Hugh Jass as the slanking mafia earlier then boom, both Skinner and Burns pop in with excuse posts.

Gross

I find this pretty hilarious, though i think Otto should be happy for players showing up, no matter what reasons to be late they had

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:05 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:37 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:17 am Wait what?
I didnt see the vc until I voted. That's just no fun and Burns and I have been on the same wrong wagon both nights.

[VOTE: grandpa] aubergine

Cont -
Krusty and Grandpa have also been on the bad wagons with Burns and I both nights.
Something something wagonomics married to my town leans puts grandpa at 68% mafia.

I wasn't on a bad wagon (I don't think)...and if you'd have stayed with me maybe we would know now if it was. I don't blame you for the CBG thing...I blame him...but don't drag me along into that particular pie in the face.

I get that it is too early to just runaway this Lisa wagon though so go do your thing.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:34 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:26 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:14 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:26 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 pm @Otto Mann I don't think you should bother with tone reading me. I have no emotions tied to this game whatsoever aside from a loose desire for serotonin. In real life I am, as the teens say, straight up not having a good time right now, for obvious reasons. So that may account for whatever defeated mood you're seeing in my posts.

It wasn't obvious to me because those things you just said weren't addressed in your vote posts, that's why I asked.

I understand leaving to be with family but why break the tie in the first place if you suspected both players and wanted to look out for suspicious vote movements? Why not just leave the tie as it was?

Because as I'd already said, my strongest scum read was on CBG. I'd have enough of him. I'd ask him a question and he'd say shit like "don't worry about it", and "why not" etc. I've got no time or sympathy for townies who sign up for a game and proceed to suck ass.
Milhouse and CBG were playing extremely shitty games and would've had to be sorted by town at some point anyways because there isn't a wolf pack dumb enough to kill off townies that are largely scum read.
The Homer kill is a head scratcher for me.

my post replying to this got eaten while i was playing Video Game

I understand why you voted for CBG, i was more asking why you would break the tie instead of letting it actually play out. Even if you suspected CBG more than Lisa, if one of them is bad then keeping the vote close at end of day forces mafia teammates to choose to protect or sacrifice, which can lead to awkward reasonings and shady justifications which stick out and sweater thread. I thought that was what you were going for with the tie wagon thing, but creating a two vote gap prevented that.

Kids these days just don't respect tie-meta, i think.

I play with my heart on my sleeve. I didn't want any monkey business getting in the way of me having my vote where I wanted it.

Would it hurt you guys to be more succinct?

So.many.unnecessary.words

i don't exist for your convenience. if it's really too much of a hassle for you to read one paragraph then i don't really know how to help you. i'll die before i proofread a post

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:17 am Wait what?
I didnt see the vc until I voted. That's just no fun and Burns and I have been on the same wrong wagon both nights.

[VOTE: grandpa] aubergine

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:19 am Sorry i had to eat


First GTH will be posted at 9 AM EDT, hope i will have someone join this.
I will set my alarm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:14 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:26 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 pm @Otto Mann I don't think you should bother with tone reading me. I have no emotions tied to this game whatsoever aside from a loose desire for serotonin. In real life I am, as the teens say, straight up not having a good time right now, for obvious reasons. So that may account for whatever defeated mood you're seeing in my posts.

It wasn't obvious to me because those things you just said weren't addressed in your vote posts, that's why I asked.

I understand leaving to be with family but why break the tie in the first place if you suspected both players and wanted to look out for suspicious vote movements? Why not just leave the tie as it was?

Because as I'd already said, my strongest scum read was on CBG. I'd have enough of him. I'd ask him a question and he'd say shit like "don't worry about it", and "why not" etc. I've got no time or sympathy for townies who sign up for a game and proceed to suck ass.
Milhouse and CBG were playing extremely shitty games and would've had to be sorted by town at some point anyways because there isn't a wolf pack dumb enough to kill off townies that are largely scum read.
The Homer kill is a head scratcher for me.

my post replying to this got eaten while i was playing Video Game

I understand why you voted for CBG, i was more asking why you would break the tie instead of letting it actually play out. Even if you suspected CBG more than Lisa, if one of them is bad then keeping the vote close at end of day forces mafia teammates to choose to protect or sacrifice, which can lead to awkward reasonings and shady justifications which stick out and sweater thread. I thought that was what you were going for with the tie wagon thing, but creating a two vote gap prevented that.

Kids these days just don't respect tie-meta, i think.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:05 am About the 5 players poe, looks like a trap, even if we.can make a consensus poe of 5 that will contain villagers too and wolves can switch the elim of a mate in the Poe with a new mischop especially if at least one wolf is outside the Poe.

I wish to try some GTH reads, as exercise, who is in?

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:36 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:24 pm

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:10 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:04 pm
I'm surprised this is a question, Grumple.

Are you though?

What does this question say to you about the green creature if you are surprised?

Stop fidgeting.

It says they didn't bother to actually read how nf played out and was just looking for an opportunity to look busy by posing questions on why I voted even though that should have been obvious.

Could serve to muddy the waters a bit and shade me.

Fun fact, I've been looking for 112. She's tricky af and for a little while I was thinking she might be Lisa, but theres been some spelling and grammar errors which are definitely not 112 even though the post frequency and some meta stuff kinda lines up with Lisa.
I fear 112 might actually be Grumple, and if she is in fact Grumple I'd scum read that slot so hard.

I think 112 may have been CBG

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:18 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:24 pm Fun fact, I've been looking for 112. She's tricky af and for a little while I was thinking she might be Lisa, but theres been some spelling and grammar errors which are definitely not 112 even though the post frequency and some meta stuff kinda lines up with Lisa.
I fear 112 might actually be Grumple, and if she is in fact Grumple I'd scum read that slot so hard.

I've only played with 112 once - she was scum and she was mostly quiet and got exed pretty much on consensus D1 for doing nothing. But anti-spewed well enough to let her teammates win the game after. That hasn't matched up super well with what Grumple's been doing this game. What makes you scumread Grumple if Grumple is 112?

I didn't realize that was a person's name. To clarify, I am not them.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:24 pm Fun fact, I've been looking for 112. She's tricky af and for a little while I was thinking she might be Lisa, but theres been some spelling and grammar errors which are definitely not 112 even though the post frequency and some meta stuff kinda lines up with Lisa.
I fear 112 might actually be Grumple, and if she is in fact Grumple I'd scum read that slot so hard.

I've only played with 112 once - she was scum and she was mostly quiet and got exed pretty much on consensus D1 for doing nothing. But anti-spewed well enough to let her teammates win the game after. That hasn't matched up super well with what Grumple's been doing this game. What makes you scumread Grumple if Grumple is 112?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 pm @Otto Mann I don't think you should bother with tone reading me. I have no emotions tied to this game whatsoever aside from a loose desire for serotonin. In real life I am, as the teens say, straight up not having a good time right now, for obvious reasons. So that may account for whatever defeated mood you're seeing in my posts.

It wasn't obvious to me because those things you just said weren't addressed in your vote posts, that's why I asked.

I understand leaving to be with family but why break the tie in the first place if you suspected both players and wanted to look out for suspicious vote movements? Why not just leave the tie as it was?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:16 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:04 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:40 pm @Otto Mann I can't find where you explained this; what drove you to break the tie between Comic Book Guy and Lisa Simpson on Day 2?

I'm surprised this is a question, Grumple. Thought I was pretty clear as the thread unfolded but ill walk you through it.
I'd been heavily scum leaning CBG, questioning him all day and had a vote on him before getting home from work.
When I lpreturned to the game CBG had like 4 or 5 votes and my other scum lean Lisa had 2 or 3.
Being a gentleman who loves wagon races I switched to Lisa to see what kind of movement that might create.. but then I started catching grief from my family for ignoring them and had to fulfill my rl obligations and switched back to CBG before fam time because he was my strongest scum read.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:44 pm @Otto Mann or also why you voted Lisa in the first place? thank you

To me she looks like a playerwho is trying to appear to be towny by giving town clears and asking a few questions here and there, but then she disappears for long stretches and IMO hasn't made any attempt to really drive home a point or a read and is happy sitting back, coasting on plays which are blendy and look towny, but are just blendy in the end.
That's my take on Lisa. That and gut. Theres just something not right there, similar to how I feel about you. Theres this emptiness, or a subtle sense of sadness in your tone. A lot of people hate wolfing, myself included, and I really struggle to have fun as wolf, and that comes across in my tone. Kinda what I'm getting at there.

At the current game state I think townies are entitled to be a little sad. More than a little even. Hating wolfing is a thing, but hating getting to day three with nothing but misses and so really great wolfreads isn't popular either. I've kinda burned my irritability out and I'm down to a little sad myself.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:10 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:04 pm
I'm surprised this is a question, Grumple.

Are you though?

What does this question say to you about the green creature if you are surprised?

Stop fidgeting.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:40 pm @Otto Mann I can't find where you explained this; what drove you to break the tie between Comic Book Guy and Lisa Simpson on Day 2?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:44 pm @Otto Mann or also why you voted Lisa in the first place? thank you

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:05 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:34 pm I'm looking at Jass and Burns as a w/v or w/w but can't pick anything from their ISO that really screams wolf with exception of Jass's death by paperwork factor and my early to and fro with Burns which was only buried by the v/v read from Allison.

Unless I am being severely outplayed I don't think, Hugh and Burns are ever W/W here given their interactions. For them to be W/W, both of them would have to have fooled me individually, and then decided to engage in a completely unecessary bus complete with 500 page novellas scrutinizing the other's ISO. I don't think that's likely at all.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:30 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:49 am TBH, Otto is a good deepwolf candidate. He's been universally TR, but the Maf are happy to keep him alive? I dunno, Maf usually take down those kind of townies where I usually play.


His meta lines up with his usual town play, but this is a different forum, and I'll not say the dude is incapable of progressing his game...far from it.


He's still town to me for now, but goddammit Otto, if you're scum? Imma burn your house down.

:woozyface:

Why do you keep talking about Skinner? Skinner asked for sub.
And "TBH", bruh. Feels bad man

Odd response. I didn't even mention Skinner in the quoted post.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:30 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:49 am TBH, Otto is a good deepwolf candidate. He's been universally TR, but the Maf are happy to keep him alive? I dunno, Maf usually take down those kind of townies where I usually play.


His meta lines up with his usual town play, but this is a different forum, and I'll not say the dude is incapable of progressing his game...far from it.


He's still town to me for now, but goddammit Otto, if you're scum? Imma burn your house down.

:woozyface:

Why do you keep talking about Skinner? Skinner asked for sub.
And "TBH", bruh. Feels bad man

Odd response. I didn't even mention Skinner in the quoted post.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:49 am TBH, Otto is a good deepwolf candidate. He's been universally TR, but the Maf are happy to keep him alive? I dunno, Maf usually take down those kind of townies where I usually play.


His meta lines up with his usual town play, but this is a different forum, and I'll not say the dude is incapable of progressing his game...far from it.


He's still town to me for now, but goddammit Otto, if you're scum? Imma burn your house down.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:49 am TBH, Otto is a good deepwolf candidate. He's been universally TR, but the Maf are happy to keep him alive? I dunno, Maf usually take down those kind of townies where I usually play.


His meta lines up with his usual town play, but this is a different forum, and I'll not say the dude is incapable of progressing his game...far from it.


He's still town to me for now, but goddammit Otto, if you're scum? Imma burn your house down.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:23 am I'm vexed because this is coming out of left field from you, a person who has been mostly reasonable this whole game, to suddenly nitpick on something both hypocritical and minute.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:48 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:41 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:35 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:17 am Gramps spending too much time defending a known known. Not a fan.

From what I know of Krusty he was venting frustration when wanting to chop Skinner because Skinner is essentially useless and a waste of a special, in Krusty's eyes I mean, I totally didn'tsay that. At least that's how I read what Krusty posted.
He's a passionate dude and I can sympathize with his frustrations.
I'm really disappointed Skinner hasn't used his special as a soapbox and united town.

Boo-urns

there's 48 hours, I promise we're not short on time

Short on time for what? A few useless fluff walls?

Count me in. I mean out.

I hate walls.

on second thought, wtf

you've done fuck all today except complain about what other people are doing

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:35 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:17 am Gramps spending too much time defending a known known. Not a fan.

From what I know of Krusty he was venting frustration when wanting to chop Skinner because Skinner is essentially useless and a waste of a special, in Krusty's eyes I mean, I totally didn'tsay that. At least that's how I read what Krusty posted.
He's a passionate dude and I can sympathize with his frustrations.
I'm really disappointed Skinner hasn't used his special as a soapbox and united town.

Boo-urns

there's 48 hours, I promise we're not short on time

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:26 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:24 am Why tf are grampa and grumple even talking about chopping Skinner?

That shit was never on the table. Wtf, just trying to look busy or something?

Wonder twins are bugging me

it was literally being discussed in the thread

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:25 pm I dunno what kind of kill a GK is but not usually

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:26 pm is it modkill?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:56 pm By the way...

Hugh Jass, Otto, Homer, and Skinner!!!

Your refusal to take any stand here is disgusting.

Smithers!!!

Send the hounds to round them up...dead or alive.