The Syndicate

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:36 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:16 pm Not impressed with Flanders for failing to read the rules.
Guy posts about town throwing when he's a suspect, then throws because he needed to flash his site cred to save himself instead of just playing his way out of a hole.
Weak sauce.

Still feeling good about a Skinner vote, wondering where Lisa is at and what she has to say. She's been pretty mousey so far.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:27 pm Everybody makes mistakes...I'm not a big reader of rules myself.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:22 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:17 pm

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm Find myself agreeing with Allison and Burns for the most part. I like the Grumple and Krusty, Grandpa seems pretty ok too.
Feeling less sure on Comic dude, but still on the town lean side.
Pretty null on a bunch in there.

Skinner, Flanders, Milhouse take up the bottom three spots with my preference being Skinner Flanders wagons.

Milhouse calling Skinner and Flanders scum is interesting to me and I get it's highly unlikely he's wolf bros with them, but his entrance, lack of content and scum list without due exploration is troubling.

These reads are bad and you should feel bad.

Why?

He'd tell you, but then he'd be grandstanding

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm Find myself agreeing with Allison and Burns for the most part. I like the Grumple and Krusty, Grandpa seems pretty ok too.
Feeling less sure on Comic dude, but still on the town lean side.
Pretty null on a bunch in there.

Skinner, Flanders, Milhouse take up the bottom three spots with my preference being Skinner Flanders wagons.

Milhouse calling Skinner and Flanders scum is interesting to me and I get it's highly unlikely he's wolf bros with them, but his entrance, lack of content and scum list without due exploration is troubling.

These reads are bad and you should feel bad.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:07 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:37 pm [VOTE: Skinner] aubergine

Maybe if we keep pressure on both of these lumps of coal one will turn into a diamond.

In reality this person is mafia and should die.

Would also be happy with euthanizing Grandpa.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:03 pm Flanders, Marge, Lisa, and Skinner...


Sounds legit...the thick glasses kid with the one post reads seems okay for now

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:56 am I trust Homer.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:33 pm Hello everyone. I ate a single piece of fruit and it healed some of my status conditions and restored 1/4 of my MP.

I feel okay about Otto Mann. I liked his responses to the sticks in his spokes. I am... concerned that through his responses to me he is trying to nudge my perceptions of him, but this may be paranoia. I am not concerned. No further action is needed at this time.

Talk to me more on Comic Book Guy. What is giving people townreads on him.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:37 pm

Homer Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:32 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:59 pm Lmao Homer
Best intro ever

That was a great intro...at the time.

As a one post wonder...I think my nuclear power plant has the wrong operator asleep at the switch.

Wake up [VOTE: Homer Simpson!!!!] aubergine

Smithers! Make a note that I just want to hear from this donut eater and this vote is subject to change.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:16 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:58 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:50 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:39 pm

Only half the players.
If you were paying attention you'd have seen me address that earlier.
And from that post - Allison and Grumple in my town leans, you and Skinner aren't but I dont see you two as w/w.
I know wtf I'm doing with my posts, in my experience townies usually do, so you're like not part of the crew.
You should try throwing around empty reads when you're town. It's kinda fun.

Yeah...just got done getting my cable company sorted out.

Now I'm gonna watch the baseball game.

But GOSH I am sooooo looking forward to having a REAL mafia player like yourself teach me how to play, so I hope there's not like an expiration date on that offer!

Meanwhile, since now it isn't taking five minutes to change pages I might even read the thread before my first lesson, just so I have good background and a chance of maybe, just maybe, being able to follow your awesomeness.

Smithers! Update my schedule and show the bus driver out.

Lol, and I'll take that one on the chin.
I'm sorry if you took it that way, wasnt my intention to act superior, just wanted to let you know I knew my reads were empty, it's just the way I approach the game starting with no info.
People tend to engage in one way or another which helps me get a read on them. That's all I was saying.
Sorry if upure town, I'm just not reading you that way rn. That can change.

Enjoy the game.
I'd rather watch hockey

Wellllll...tbh

I really do normally play much the same way, and I really did spend most of the day squabbling with the cable company with my internet running at dial up speed...and my only way to communicate with the cable company being the internet...

So that shot to the chin wasn't something you deserved really, it was...you just kinda stepped in front of it.

I will be reading through the thread and getting really caught up.

And yeah I'd actually rather be watching hockey too.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:50 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:39 pm

Only half the players.
If you were paying attention you'd have seen me address that earlier.
And from that post - Allison and Grumple in my town leans, you and Skinner aren't but I dont see you two as w/w.
I know wtf I'm doing with my posts, in my experience townies usually do, so you're like not part of the crew.
You should try throwing around empty reads when you're town. It's kinda fun.

Yeah...just got done getting my cable company sorted out.

Now I'm gonna watch the baseball game.

But GOSH I am sooooo looking forward to having a REAL mafia player like yourself teach me how to play, so I hope there's not like an expiration date on that offer!

Meanwhile, since now it isn't taking five minutes to change pages I might even read the thread before my first lesson, just so I have good background and a chance of maybe, just maybe, being able to follow your awesomeness.

Smithers! Update my schedule and show the bus driver out.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:28 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:17 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:41 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:58 pm C- It's not so much the current gamestate, more the thinking that a lot of scum have a hard time entering the thread and subsequently end up a very low poster early game as they struggle to find an opening that feels comfortable.

This is not true of most Syndicate wolves. You will catch the occasional one with an awkward opening but many Syndicate scum players have no issue with power wolfing and there are very few chronic slankers here.

I like Grumple's posting this page. Not that I agree with his read on Otto, but the way he approached it and broke down Otto's post that he thought was player salad, moved onto a series of probing questions and then backed off after a bit to stop himself from tunnelling was a pretty townie approach.

That may or may not be true about Syndicate, but they still need an opening to enter the game. Players entering with shitposts or excuses after conversation worthy content has been established looks bad to me.

I agree on Grumple for the most part. Their tunnel actually felt like a nice cozy pocket I could hang in for a bit.

What?

You think just because someone gets to the thread a little early and you got serious before you turned around twice they shouldn't get to shitpost?

In a game based on The Simpsons??

Where they have gone to the lengths of a Simpsons character sockpuppet account to play with???

You're lucky I stopped shitposting long enough to make this post...and mostly I'm only being serious because my dodgy internet has me in such an ill humor. If I get this shit straightened out I'll probably get right back into character and have you dumped in the green glowing pool out back.

tl;dr...I think you have thrown a lot of shade so far, but in pretty much every case it was thinly backed, if at all...like you are looking for an easy push.

That's cool, especially considering you've done fuck all but complain about your computer or inability to access your account. And the sus or sheep post, unless that was someone else.

You seem to have your back up quite a bit considering it's early D1 and even the best of cases will all be flimsy as fuck. I haven't even pushed you, but indeed some shade has been thrown. I do that. Helps me sort players.

Getting all salty over the way I go about scum hunting to start the game only reinforces my opinion that you're in that scum range of players.

LOL...I actually wasn't even talking about the shade you've thrown at me. I was more pointing out that you seem to be thinking you are in a fourteen wolf game because you are shading basically everyone, or at least seem like you are set on getting to everyone.

Now you can play "oh look, I threw empty shade at almost everybody and this guy didn't like it so he must be a wolf." Congrats wolf hunter, I'm impressed.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:41 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:58 pm C- It's not so much the current gamestate, more the thinking that a lot of scum have a hard time entering the thread and subsequently end up a very low poster early game as they struggle to find an opening that feels comfortable.

This is not true of most Syndicate wolves. You will catch the occasional one with an awkward opening but many Syndicate scum players have no issue with power wolfing and there are very few chronic slankers here.

I like Grumple's posting this page. Not that I agree with his read on Otto, but the way he approached it and broke down Otto's post that he thought was player salad, moved onto a series of probing questions and then backed off after a bit to stop himself from tunnelling was a pretty townie approach.

That may or may not be true about Syndicate, but they still need an opening to enter the game. Players entering with shitposts or excuses after conversation worthy content has been established looks bad to me.

I agree on Grumple for the most part. Their tunnel actually felt like a nice cozy pocket I could hang in for a bit.

What?

You think just because someone gets to the thread a little early and you got serious before you turned around twice they shouldn't get to shitpost?

In a game based on The Simpsons??

Where they have gone to the lengths of a Simpsons character sockpuppet account to play with???

You're lucky I stopped shitposting long enough to make this post...and mostly I'm only being serious because my dodgy internet has me in such an ill humor. If I get this shit straightened out I'll probably get right back into character and have you dumped in the green glowing pool out back.

tl;dr...I think you have thrown a lot of shade so far, but in pretty much every case it was thinly backed, if at all...like you are looking for an easy push.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:29 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:58 pm C- It's not so much the current gamestate, more the thinking that a lot of scum have a hard time entering the thread and subsequently end up a very low poster early game as they struggle to find an opening that feels comfortable.

This is not true of most Syndicate wolves. You will catch the occasional one with an awkward opening but many Syndicate scum players have no issue with power wolfing and there are very few chronic slankers here.

I like Grumple's posting this page. Not that I agree with his read on Otto, but the way he approached it and broke down Otto's post that he thought was player salad, moved onto a series of probing questions and then backed off after a bit to stop himself from tunnelling was a pretty townie approach.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:10 pm @Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

Because you were the three lowest posters of the active players.

The idea is to start conversation with the actives and put a little pressure on a number of players.

Ned Flanders: active?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:29 pmThe Grumple's tunneling is a good look.

changing your opinion suddenly irks my buttons, but you are correct that i am tunneling. i am going to turn off the lights and hide in the darkness from my migraine and come back to this with a clear mind.

again thank you for your patience during this holiday season. i appreciate your time and also i love you.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:10 pm @Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm ah i see. when you say "looking at skinner burns etc" you're not saying "i am currently investigating these four players" you're saying "these four players exemplify the thing i am talking about"

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:40 pm Player salad is a subconscious pitfall that mafia people who hate Christmas fall into. They list several names at once without actually listing reasons. It allows for deniability later and gives an illusion of action without actually acting. Allows people in the mafia to talk about their teammates early on without actually pushing meaningful momentum on them so later on when one of them bites the snowball they can point back and be like "aha! I knew buntain simpson was mafia, see? I even said it on day 1".

Posts that often like this:

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:17 pm Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

Mr. Mann if you don't mind can you expand on what put Skinner, Burns, Milhouse, and Hugh Jazz on your radar?

Question number second: If one or two of Grumple, Allison, and Flanders are mafia, which one do you think is most likely.

Question number C: what is it about the current game state that leads you to believe that the mafia is laying low?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:10 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:04 pm it's been a while for me. is "player salad" still commonly known meta or has that been largely debunked.

what is player salad

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:18 pm And Otto and Marge can answer that too.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:15 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:12 pm

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:16 pm Egads I got so busy and now my roast is ruined!

Unless.....

Am I the only one reading this as a wolfy pop in?

Quite a few people have made this kind of "pop in, say something in character, pop out" post. I think it's just part and parcel of the game's theme that encourages people to do that at the start. It's wolfy if he keeps doing it and doesn't contribute to the game.

Otto Mann, it was more of the context and timing of the post that made me like it. I'm a little confused about your read on Bart. You criticize his posts for having bad tone and being fluffy, but you're null on him overall, just because he has a lot of those (bad) posts? Why?

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:12 pm

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:16 pm Egads I got so busy and now my roast is ruined!

Unless.....

Am I the only one reading this as a wolfy pop in?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:52 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:45 pm
I like bait votes.
CBG and Krusty both seemed like decent odds at town, was hoping for a wolfy entrance vote from one of the slank.
C'est la vie

Since you appear to be referring to ME as a "slank," you slow witted youth, I will inform you that there seems to have been something interfering with my account. I am certain it had nothing to do with any sort of leakage from the plant and that there is no possibility of everyone in Springfield turning yellow! Errr...

Smithers! Show that EPA inspector the bottom of the cooling towers right away!

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:48 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:45 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:33 pm Oh, so you aren't nanook. Given that I thought you were though, the two of you seem like you'd click together. And I actually think OMGUS is town indicative because town is more likely to feel indignant about being wrongly voted and/or suspect that they're being falsely accused by mafia. Scum is like, "well, they caught me, how can I get them off my back?". Obviously it's not a super strong read since it's so easy to fake OMGUS/indignation, but in a vacuum it's slightly townie and nothing I'd scumread someone off.

I posted that before reading that Comic Book Guy was just fishing for reactions though.

I like bait votes.
CBG and Krusty both seemed like decent odds at town, was hoping for a wolfy entrance vote from one of the slank.
C'est la vie

Yeah, Lisa coming in and going "both of you are town" was what made me townread her. Her entrance felt pretty comfortable too. What do you think about Bart?

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:33 pm Oh, so you aren't nanook. Given that I thought you were though, the two of you seem like you'd click together. And I actually think OMGUS is town indicative because town is more likely to feel indignant about being wrongly voted and/or suspect that they're being falsely accused by mafia. Scum is like, "well, they caught me, how can I get them off my back?". Obviously it's not a super strong read since it's so easy to fake OMGUS/indignation, but in a vacuum it's slightly townie and nothing I'd scumread someone off.

I posted that before reading that Comic Book Guy was just fishing for reactions though.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:21 pm [VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

For stealing my saxophone! ...And for telling us to post less after telling us to post more.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 am Heyyyyy. Otto might be blotto but Krusty smells like moldy cheese and awkward entrances.
Whoaaaaa

I'm not sure about that one Otto, I think Krusty's entrance is okay, and I think OMGUS is slightly town indicative.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:50 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 am Heyyyyy. Otto might be blotto but Krusty smells like moldy cheese and awkward entrances.
Whoaaaaa

Interesting to note that you agree with my thoughts on Lisa's desire to solve the squirrel murder tho

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:28 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:23 pm Whoa man

I never liked comic book dude. He's like evil in a bad way man, I can tell by the mustard on his goatee

That mustard is high quality. I can't justify cleaning the beard when I can lick it off in increments and still enjoy the taste.