The Syndicate

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:10 pm Hugh, remind me again what your case on Krusty was? And does Otto (a strong townread of yours) having locked him town based on (presumably compelling) meta reasons change your view of Krusty at all?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:18 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:14 pm Nice dp, Otto.

After CBG it's a bit of a shitshow with high jass and his death by paperwork routine, lisa, Marge.

Then there's the tinfoil open wolves which I'm just gonna keep to myself

Why am I there lol? Come on now.

Talk to me about Lisa and Marge. Especially interested in the latter since she was my top TR not too long ago but has been absent for a while now.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:21 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:10 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:57 pm @Otto Mann Where your vote? Who's on your chopping list

CBG most likely. It's the disingenuous nature of his posts.
Just fluff and glib commentary.
Drops reads without justification.

Aiming for twtbw is crap. I don't like his style.

What do you think about Homer? I don't like CBGs PoE of 6 players, it's way too much scattershot, but I also am wary of Lisa rubbing his nose in his list & where they're voting

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:57 pm @Otto Mann Where your vote? Who's on your chopping list

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:57 pm @Otto Mann Where your vote? Who's on your chopping list

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:21 pm After that, Allison Taylor should still be in the PoE.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:24 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm @Otto Mann My town pile isn't very strong as far as my certainty of them. Alison is my strongest lean, followed by you. After that it's some reads doing better than null, but by no means strong leans. Lisa, Burns, Grampa, Bart.

Scum leans on Hugh Jass, Homer, & The Grumple right now.

Here is a TR from Krusty for Otto as second TR

What makes Allison your first town read Krusty?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:43 pm

Spoiler: show

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Spoiler: show

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Interesting...has trouble putting thoughts into words, then proceeds to post an absolute novel. Ya, makes sense. Also, not a fan at all of the last minute pop-in at EoD last RD, giving Milhouse a townread on pretty much nothing (cuz' that's what Milhouse had done up to that point....nuthin') right before he gets axed. Super convenient way for a wolf to appear towny.

I like this read. Exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting for from you.

And here is an implied TR from Otto to Krusty.

Question is, how did you expect something from him, except you know who he is? Can you confirm you realised who Krusty is and if yes how confident are you? (no need to share the info, just the level of confidence}

What i dislike and it may put lower Krusty in my reads to null is the shade for Milhouse who was not the wolfiest player and a GTH would sqeeze from my brain a not guilty answer.

About Hugh 's reads, that wall needs a little attention in other post.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:17 am I'm 100% sure who Otto is

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:17 pm Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:40 pm Player salad is a subconscious pitfall that mafia people who hate Christmas fall into. They list several names at once without actually listing reasons. It allows for deniability later and gives an illusion of action without actually acting. Allows people in the mafia to talk about their teammates early on without actually pushing meaningful momentum on them so later on when one of them bites the snowball they can point back and be like "aha! I knew buntain simpson was mafia, see? I even said it on day 1".

Posts that often like this:

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:17 pm Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

Mr. Mann if you don't mind can you expand on what put Skinner, Burns, Milhouse, and Hugh Jazz on your radar?

Question number second: If one or two of Grumple, Allison, and Flanders are mafia, which one do you think is most likely.

Question number C: what is it about the current game state that leads you to believe that the mafia is laying low?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm ah i see. when you say "looking at skinner burns etc" you're not saying "i am currently investigating these four players" you're saying "these four players exemplify the thing i am talking about"

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:10 pm @Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:15 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:13 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:03 pm ah i see. when you say "looking at skinner burns etc" you're not saying "i am currently investigating these four players" you're saying "these four players exemplify the thing i am talking about"

Not sure how I could investigate 4 players so you pretty much answered your own question.

I'm taking this post as pretty scummy due to the special hunt and what feels like attempted derp clear all at once.

i didn't even ask a question. i was clarifying your ambiguity for you my dude.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:16 pm your ambiguity for myself*

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:23 pm @Otto Mann i think maybe you left but please also answer the question about the grouping, it is important, thanks.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:45 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:10 pm @Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

Because you were the three lowest posters of the active players.

The idea is to start conversation with the actives and put a little pressure on a number of players.

Ned Flanders: active?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:29 pmThe Grumple's tunneling is a good look.

changing your opinion suddenly irks my buttons, but you are correct that i am tunneling. i am going to turn off the lights and hide in the darkness from my migraine and come back to this with a clear mind.

again thank you for your patience during this holiday season. i appreciate your time and also i love you.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:30 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:26 am ^@Bart Simpson
@Lisa Simpson

O-kay, hope you are not two wolves covering each other.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:14 am

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:24 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm @Otto Mann My town pile isn't very strong as far as my certainty of them. Alison is my strongest lean, followed by you. After that it's some reads doing better than null, but by no means strong leans. Lisa, Burns, Grampa, Bart.

Scum leans on Hugh Jass, Homer, & The Grumple right now.

Here is a TR from Krusty for Otto as second TR

What makes Allison your first town read Krusty?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:43 pm

Spoiler: show

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Spoiler: show

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Interesting...has trouble putting thoughts into words, then proceeds to post an absolute novel. Ya, makes sense. Also, not a fan at all of the last minute pop-in at EoD last RD, giving Milhouse a townread on pretty much nothing (cuz' that's what Milhouse had done up to that point....nuthin') right before he gets axed. Super convenient way for a wolf to appear towny.

I like this read. Exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting for from you.

And here is an implied TR from Otto to Krusty.

Question is, how did you expect something from him, except you know who he is? Can you confirm you realised who Krusty is and if yes how confident are you? (no need to share the info, just the level of confidence}

What i dislike and it may put lower Krusty in my reads to null is the shade for Milhouse who was not the wolfiest player and a GTH would sqeeze from my brain a not guilty answer.

About Hugh 's reads, that wall needs a little attention in other post.

Alison isnt my 1st town read as in she's my top read, I just listed her first. She's been unafraid to engage the thread and multiple players & hasn't slanked.

My town read on Otto is pure meta. He and I have solved who each other are, so I'd wager he's basing his read on me from meta as well.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:59 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:35 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:23 am what do u guys think about mr. burns

I'm really stoned rn so I'm not sure I can explain it properly.
But if Burns is scum I think Allison probably is too.

Pre-flip association reads. Et tu, Otto? Nooo

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:23 am what do u guys think about mr. burns

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:08 am i am so done with walls

posting only absolute bullshit one-liners from now on*

*terms and conditions apply

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:00 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:56 pm

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:40 pm

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:29 pm Grumple could be scum.

Anything deeper than the AtE? I hAtE AtE.

Also, I'm curious about your early wolf read on Alison, can you explain that to me please.

I thought she was scummy because she seemed kinda verbose and focused on minutia.

I think she's town now, though.

Does this satisfy you?

Nope. It's very different from what I remember seeing at the time.
Guess I'll have to read back looking for what you're talking about.

You didn't address your Grumple read.

I'm actually pretty easy to please, are you allergic to effort?

Don't worry about it.

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:43 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:40 pm

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:29 pm Grumple could be scum.

Anything deeper than the AtE? I hAtE AtE.

Also, I'm curious about your early wolf read on Alison, can you explain that to me please.

I thought she was scummy because she seemed kinda verbose and focused on minutia.

I think she's town now, though.

Does this satisfy you?

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:29 pm Grumple could be scum.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Interesting...has trouble putting thoughts into words, then proceeds to post an absolute novel. Ya, makes sense. Also, not a fan at all of the last minute pop-in at EoD last RD, giving Milhouse a townread on pretty much nothing (cuz' that's what Milhouse had done up to that point....nuthin') right before he gets axed. Super convenient way for a wolf to appear towny.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:56 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:39 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:46 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

why would you track otto of all people??

Because I wanted to?

Was there something specific about Otto's game that made you target him?

Why do I feel like you're approaching this game with far less aggression and snarl than I'm used to seeing from you..when you're tp?

Your start wasn't so bad but as soon as I realized who you are I kinda just said well let's see where this goes.

You usually push back against easy town clears on yourself because as tp you're paranoid af and I'm just not seeing it so far.

Turn it up buddy ol pal.

I'm town cleared? Didn't think that was the case. I blame the 24hr lock down, kinda took the gas out of my tank. It's something I'll have to get used to.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:59 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm @Krusty the Clown
Thoughts on Grandpa -
I was null on him until the attempted derp clear. A couple others have made decent scum cases on him but I haven't spent any time on him yet, so I suppose I'm scum leaning him strictly due to his bunk entrance today.

That derp clear was so derp that I'm inclined to give him a pass, for now.


Homer & CBG are on my radar at the moment.


Thoughts on why the Maf ignored the tracker claim & left Skinner alone?

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:46 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

why would you track otto of all people??

Because I wanted to?

Was there something specific about Otto's game that made you target him?

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:09 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

Bruh..

Worst.tracker.ever (sorryCBG)

And I don't believe you. The real tracker can do whatever they want, but.. yeah I just don't believe you're the tracker.

I don't believe you don't believe this.
That is a decent track.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:20 am Nah I kind of gut read it

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:08 am

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:33 am Burns you've been getting on Hugh's case for having no reads but I can't tell what reads you have other than scumreading him. Where are you at in the game right now? What's your take on CBG?

I'm reassessing so the only reads I have right now that aren't stale are on the few people who have shown up so far.

Grampa I have as low hanging fruit that may or may not be a wolf. I figure enough people are chasing him around that he is gonna get sorted so I'm paying more attention to how the chasers chase than I am to him.

Otto I had as a pretty hard town read yesterday and I think him being ready to dive in was a good look that is consistent with that. He asked the most sensible question there was available (Skinner spill results) and interacted a bit in ways that were somewhere between active probing and waiting around for Skinner. No faults.

You I think I trust, despite our disagreements on Hugh Jass. Primarily, I think Mac knew who you are and if he is right he is a very reliable read on you...and he called you town. Of course he might have been wrong and I also may be misreading who you are so that's not in stone. But for now it's good enough.

Bart I like. I liked Bart yesterday, and I like that they have at least a couple reads even though one is me and is wrong, and I like the way they looked into what I said.

And my take on CBG is that the pop in skip at SoD was not a good look. I think yesterday there was a townread there by Otto and a couple others that was too early, and CBG reacted like "oh cool, I'll coast then." I have seen townies do that, but it is much more of a wolfy thing. Usually townies who get a kind of consensus townread will feel some freedom and really 'dig in' on investigating and pushing.

Skinner..."wait I'm the tracker" kept us from killing him, and then he tracks Otto. Maybe we shoulda killed him after all.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:32 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:18 am

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 am That was a garbage elimination.

10 mins since you posted that, and crickets.
Is that really all you've got on the game so far? I'd like to read what you have to say

That's 10min I used to continue reading and responding to Gramps.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:20 am I'm honestly not sure what to do with this gamestate.

There's a lot of people who are gigantic question marks to me, mostly because they've dropped off severely in posting, and I only have one firm scumread.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 am That was a garbage elimination.

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:36 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:24 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:18 pm

Spoiler: show

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:03 pm Grandpa is creeping me out. Seems to have had a weird obsession with inactives and especially me. He tagged me, and mentioned my name a couple of times.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Grampa] aubergine

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

bro it's a #23 vote for Huge Ass what do you want from me

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:10 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

bro it's a #23 vote for Huge Ass what do you want from me

To just vote, not talk.

@Hugh Jass: This'll come across defensive as hell since it's coming from me, but was an OMGUS vote—based on a joke vote from the beginning of the game—right before EOD really the best you were able to muster in a little over half an hour? After a day of being able to read back, what are your reads, if any?

Same to you @Milhouse Van Houten. Anything beyond the town/scum wall now?

Hugh, you mentioned I have a "weird obsession" with inactives, but this is why. We have nothing (majorly actionable) to work off of from you two after an entire cycle. I'm not asking you to flood us with in-depth reads, nobody's really doing that, but like, something? Anything? After 72 hours, what's the scoop?

Before the spew clear and role claim I was pretty comfortable with the Flanders/Skinner wagons, and hadn't really built a major POE beyond that except with poking holes in what Marge was saying re: Homer and generally being unimpressed with Milhouse's empty wall. Will need to fix that today at some point.

Derp clear denied.

And your whole post is pretty gross there gramps.

I don't think so, Otto.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:18 pm

Spoiler: show

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:03 pm Grandpa is creeping me out. Seems to have had a weird obsession with inactives and especially me. He tagged me, and mentioned my name a couple of times.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Grampa] aubergine

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

bro it's a #23 vote for Huge Ass what do you want from me

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:10 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:08 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:40 pm [VOTE: Hugh Jass] aubergine for the memes

I'm not sure why he felt the need to add the "for the memes". Feels like an unnecessary attempt at justifying a vote that is nothing more than RVS on someone that hadn't posted yet.

bro it's a #23 vote for Huge Ass what do you want from me

To just vote, not talk.

@Hugh Jass: This'll come across defensive as hell since it's coming from me, but was an OMGUS vote—based on a joke vote from the beginning of the game—right before EOD really the best you were able to muster in a little over half an hour? After a day of being able to read back, what are your reads, if any?

Same to you @Milhouse Van Houten. Anything beyond the town/scum wall now?

Hugh, you mentioned I have a "weird obsession" with inactives, but this is why. We have nothing (majorly actionable) to work off of from you two after an entire cycle. I'm not asking you to flood us with in-depth reads, nobody's really doing that, but like, something? Anything? After 72 hours, what's the scoop?

Before the spew clear and role claim I was pretty comfortable with the Flanders/Skinner wagons, and hadn't really built a major POE beyond that except with poking holes in what Marge was saying re: Homer and generally being unimpressed with Milhouse's empty wall. Will need to fix that today at some point.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:51 pmI'm alive!

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:44 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:18 pm

Milhouse Van Houten wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:52 pm And i think I've figured it out...

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:06 pm Worst. Newscast. Ever.

Town

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:17 pm alright, used up all my show lore in the first two posts, let's go

Town

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:27 pm mafia time babiiiieeeeeyyyy

Town

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:05 pm Howdiddly-ho syndicatoreenos.

Scum

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:23 pm Whoa man

I never liked comic book dude. He's like evil in a bad way man, I can tell by the mustard on his goatee

Town

Homer Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:32 pm

Town

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:06 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:17 pm alright, used up all my show lore in the first two posts, let's go

yell at the kids or something

Scum

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:39 am Can i go already? I am a real child, i don't own any guns and don't want to look at this poor animal.

Scum

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:22 am Hey everyone

Town

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:22 am Has anyone seen my saxophone? I left it somewhere around here, but then I got distracted by a game of anagrams and can't find it again.

Town

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:58 am Good morning. I see some of us got the party started already. 1st thoughts...Marge has crocodile tears.

Town

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:16 pm Egads I got so busy and now my roast is ruined!

Unless.....

Scum

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:31 pm Excellent...Smithers, have the hounds run down these wolves.

Town

for context

this is Milhouse's singular contribution

Def strange that some players get scum reads in the list for posting direct character quotes, while others doing the same thing get town reads.

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:48 pm Flanders is town.