No that isnt my solve, but I dont TR you.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:26 pm
Wait, is your solve just Sean & I?
You seem so certain...are Maf games usually so easy, that it's just the players that sus you are Maf?
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:28 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:37 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:32 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:03 pm
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My delta read had nothing to do with you, you just kept trying to force yourself into the conversation. If you flip w ever it basically locks delta v.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:01 pm
Your delta read was forced by me, and felt like TMI BS.
You literally said you can read Delta in minutes off very few posts, Delta had 125 posts and you were subtly shading them, but not hard-pushing them. When asked about your read on Delta, you claimed they haven't done anything AI (It IS my opinion that that is BS, and if you were at all trying to find common ground with me, you'd consider that MY opinion is what motivates MY worldview), Then you all-the-sudden had a god-read on Delta right after getting scrutiny about the fact that you didn't have a read on them. Sorry, but I don't buy it.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:52 pm
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How do you come to that conclusion when I literally used my posts to solve delta? You can say "But delta was towny before that!" well thats just your opinion and frankly I trust mine more than I trust yours.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:51 pmMost townies read posts with a critical townie mindset because they need to solve. Wolves try to fake this, but don't have the same critical townie mindset. Your assessment of Delta's posts up to that point suggests that you aren't reading with that critical townie mindset. It's possible that because of your familiarity with Delta, you were not reading their posts as carefully as you would someone you're unfamiliar with, but it's also possible that you just aren't interested in solving Delta because you're a wolf.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:47 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:46 pm
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Ah k, Id seen you post a few times so thought you were more caught up.Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:45 pmI am a late entry, so you can expect more of that.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:43 pmWhat made you go back and pick out that post to respond to?Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:41 pmSo it's towny, but not towny per say. You seem careful or cautious.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:02 am@Seanzie It doesn't mean much but I really liked this question. Obviously I see the utility coming from mafia too but eh.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:43 pm
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What made you go back and pick out that post to respond to?Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:41 pmSo it's towny, but not towny per say. You seem careful or cautious.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:02 am@Seanzie It doesn't mean much but I really liked this question. Obviously I see the utility coming from mafia too but eh.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:34 pm
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Ill admit I cleared mis-read Seans last post then. But I still am not really seeing its relevance to the argument or what about it would make me a wolf.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:33 pm
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Maybe to you they were AI, but for what Im looking for in delta most of them werent outside of his reads. Which I felt wasnt the best set of reads so I had to make him do something else. Also I said nearly all. Which isnt all.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:27 pmI didn't say you didn't read Delta's posts. I specifically said that I believe you DID read their posts, but the fact that you called them all NAI suggests you aren't actually reading Delta's posts critically in order to solve them/others, which is wolf-indicative.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:51 pmIt felt like if he should have done it much earlier. But then he said this and voted. Like come on this was hands down the absolutely worst thing you could write in a post when voting me. Vote me and say I was abrasive, vote me and say it felt like Ive just been trying to shade people or create discord. Dont vote me for saying Ive not read deltas posts lmao.Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:49 pmI mean do you think the vote was not from the collective of your posts culminating in that vote?Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:33 pmThat post I quoted right there is terrible reasoning to vote me. Of all the posts I made that was the absolute worst one to vote me over.
If the vote was squarely based off that post maybe. But as a whole Sean has very valid and openly acknowledged reasons to vote you.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:20 pm
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If this happens to be the outcome I will never stop gloating and I hope you are prepared for that.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:19 pm im being silly and planning pathways already but like
best vote today lies in sam/xan (heartbreaking)
if one flips v yeet the other
if one flips w townlock the other
sam prob works best with seanzie given her reaction to xan/sean being just kinda 'weh' despite strongly thinking xan is town
if xan you prob go ted? idk im getting a little paranoid about how he's approaching me, subtle pocket stuff, little bit spooked
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:16 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:15 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:14 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:13 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:13 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:11 pm
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Zenon who IS wolfy atm?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:11 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:10 pm
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But you didnt find the part where I did clarify? Or?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:07 pm
Yeah...I did a quick skim of Sean's ISO, and he reaches out to get clarification from you Xan more than once.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:05 pm
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For mis-repping what I said completely, refusing to re-read and re-evaluate and instead doubling down in an attempt to not give ground.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:01 pmXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:58 pmBecause Ive already got my vote where I like it?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:55 pmAs tho he hasn't already expressed sus on your slot...
Why don't ya vote me? I mean, you've got no reason it would appear to town read my slot, so what's holding you back?
What the fuck is this logic "Why dont you vote me?" Its like a terrible attempt at a "Got'cha!" I dunno if its a scummy thing to say or not but its bloody useless.
You are treating my slot like I'm scum, but not voting for me. Just a bunch of light shade.
Why is Sean Maf?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:03 pm
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Also ftr I literally did the opposite with delta, I pushed him, he SR'd me, I cleared him as town from it.Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:02 pmSeems like a meh way to read things but I've played with others who do this soXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:01 pmIt happens a fair bit. Due to my tone people often think its easy to scum read me. But then I press them and they either admit they got it wrong or they have to double down and out as a wolf. You'd be shocked at how often I end game because wolves think Im a viable ML but cant actually ever pull it off.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:02 pm
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Yeah thats what makes his vote look worse. He literally found a top wagon, made no push, hasnt made a single argument to convince someone else. He just dropped his vote and walked off. If I flip today he will then go "But everyone else was scum reading Xan too! Not my fault!"tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:00 pmto be fair, you're top wagon already lmfaoXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:59 pmBut here lets play the fun gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:55 pmAs tho he hasn't already expressed sus on your slot...
Why don't ya vote me? I mean, you've got no reason it would appear to town read my slot, so what's holding you back?
Why arent you convincing anyone else to vote me?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:01 pm
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It happens a fair bit. Due to my tone people often think its easy to scum read me. But then I press them and they either admit they got it wrong or they have to double down and out as a wolf. You'd be shocked at how often I end game because wolves think Im a viable ML but cant actually ever pull it off.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:59 pm
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But here lets play the fun gamefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:55 pmAs tho he hasn't already expressed sus on your slot...
Why don't ya vote me? I mean, you've got no reason it would appear to town read my slot, so what's holding you back?
Why arent you convincing anyone else to vote me?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:58 pm
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Because Ive already got my vote where I like it?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:55 pmAs tho he hasn't already expressed sus on your slot...
Why don't ya vote me? I mean, you've got no reason it would appear to town read my slot, so what's holding you back?
What the fuck is this logic "Why dont you vote me?" Its like a terrible attempt at a "Got'cha!" I dunno if its a scummy thing to say or not but its bloody useless.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:53 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:07 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:59 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:55 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:51 pm
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It felt like if he should have done it much earlier. But then he said this and voted. Like come on this was hands down the absolutely worst thing you could write in a post when voting me. Vote me and say I was abrasive, vote me and say it felt like Ive just been trying to shade people or create discord. Dont vote me for saying Ive not read deltas posts lmao.Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:49 pmI mean do you think the vote was not from the collective of your posts culminating in that vote?Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:33 pmThat post I quoted right there is terrible reasoning to vote me. Of all the posts I made that was the absolute worst one to vote me over.
If the vote was squarely based off that post maybe. But as a whole Sean has very valid and openly acknowledged reasons to vote you.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:47 pm
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Self-meta time lol. I dont throw my votes around much, I tend to use them either because I need to see someone react or because Ive made my case and Im sitting.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:44 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:40 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:33 pm
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That post I quoted right there is terrible reasoning to vote me. Of all the posts I made that was the absolute worst one to vote me over.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:26 pm
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Imo dont dwell on it too much right now. Like its a bad look, but you're right in that most wolves would feel too self-conscious to do with so long left in the day. If it was nearer to EOD Id say its much more AI.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:24 pmyeah that's
kinda what I was expecting
I mean on first glance its like 'naked vote & bounce looks weird' but also I dont know if wilgy would do that as a wolf because it's too on the nose?
i am about to make so many assumptions about wilgy's wolf game bare with me
but a naked vote just to bounce looks bad and i think he would be aware of that
maybe?
im overthinking this
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:21 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:51 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:22 pm
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- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:17 pm
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Like now you're trying to join in a conversation you have no context on just to keep pushing your read because you know youve been caught.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:15 pmNah, he dropped it because I pointed out he was telegraphing an eventual scumread on you, which made him have to pivot.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:11 pmI remember you setting up to push ghug for something and then dropping it
almost like how you dropped you setting up your godread stuff on me just to drop it because i posted a few question marks
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:13 pm
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Tell me how many games you just won in a row as a wolf?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:12 pm
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I hate fucking up quotes.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:12 pm
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I remember you setting up to push ghug for something and then dropping it
almost like how you dropped you setting up your godread stuff on me just to drop it because i posted a few question marks
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I did just godread you lol, as town.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:09 pm
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Boy, I wonder who I will believe here.
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:07 pm
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Hey delta. Remember how in champs I made a push on someone and then gave a terrible reason for voting them?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:06 pm
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I assume you have to swap your vote to the bottom thing. But I also dont get why you're so confused. Is there anything in what Ive said to you recently that seems off to you, or like Ive jumped to an incomplete conclusion? Dr Xanjori has just psycho-analyzed you and knows you're one of the good guys. Anyway ignore me for a bit and talk to me about the others.
What did you think of mine and Samacs mindmeld on Falcon? Especially with how theyve re-entered the thread at a later date.
What do you think of Seanzie's whole take on everything?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:02 pm
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No because nearly everything he had said (to my memory) was NAI. And his reads list could have been from a wolf or a pocketed town. I now know he is simply pocketed town.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:01 pmIf what you said was true, you should have had a read on Delta by then. If you read them as town at that point, your post makes no sense. If you read them as wolf at that point, your post makes no sense. That is the conclusion I came to.Xanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:01 pm
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If you dont bait the hook the fish dont bite.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:00 pmsee the thing is you made a specific point of going 'I read you perfectly when you're a wolf with absolutely nothing to go off of' when your point wouldve held up just as fine with just 'me dying benefits you because i can read you well' and that's what's weird about it. because that specific point comes across as if you have that read nowXanjori wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pmRead what I was responding to. Ofc there is no attempt at a got'cha. Im pointing out why for w!delta getting rid of me day 1 would be a good thing. I have no idea how you can come to any other conclusion to be frank.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pmIf this is true, you should know whether or not Delta is mafia, but this post isn't a "gotcha", it's a "get off my back or else". Why is that?
- Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:00 pm
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What are we, 12 players? I now only have ten to worry about and more than that once youve got your head in the game Ill be able to trust your reads lists, because Ive told you you tend to produce good reads. Think of it as this is now a hydra game, without your consent.Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:58 pm sorry if you wanted me to just be paranoid for however long this phase is
I'm aware its a towntell of mine but it's also the biggest weakness in my town play because I get too worried about my own reads
I'm trying to work on it and find a happy medium
Soz about your free read on me if you're town, you're gonna have to work for it here