The Syndicate

Lawpy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:05 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:26 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:00 pm You’re right. I’m extremely dissatisfied.

I asked you for one thing. One simple thing. Give me your thoughts on the content itself.

Instead you gave another hand wavy answer that simply acknowledges the existence of the content and talk about how it was created on D1.

I wanted you to talk to me about the argument I’m making against Falcon. The specific point about what Falcon said, my rebuttal, and what you agree with or disagree with in that exchange, with specifics.

I still expect an answer here.
I think Falcon said a provocative thing about you and you were provoked. I think he made a mountain out of a molehill first, and you responded by making your out mountain out of your own molehill. Falcon's initial gripe, whether or not we believe it, was that you were not proactive enough in addressing your concerns about the early Miranda votes. Was it fair as an accusation at face value? Not really. But was it an acceptable play for early Day 1 of a crossover mafia game on Mafiathesyndicate.com? Absolutely.

You responded critically and defensively, because it was a bit of a bogus accusation. That is fair. But, in your response, I felt you took some liberties with his words, or at least presented a rather one-sided view of his position (It is not hard to see how falcon could interpret your initial concern as being simply the speed with which the votes occurred). This is reminiscent of how you have responded to me today. But, again, that is fine, because it is Day 1 of a mafia game, and we need to twist some words to get people talking.

Was I swayed by any of the arguments either of you made against one another? No. I was not. If I am to give a read, it's that both of you are town. Falcon, for playing the role of provocateur. You, because your defensive reaction turned into what looks to be a very firmly-held belief that you are onto something. But neither of those are strong reads, which is why I will again stress that I'm more interested in seeing how you respond to other things.

I do not believe there is anything meaningful to be gained by continuing this dialogue.
Get out of here with your calm and reasoning.

Also, intentionally being peacemaker and trying to stop a distracting argument feels town to me.
That argument doesn’t look distracting to me and the peacemaker role is what’s actually making me wary

I’m interested to know who you’re wolfreading, if any, in this exchange

Thank you!!!!!! I’m glad you’re seeing what I’m seeing here

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:14 pm @Zenge @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7, I'll try to get through your ISO's tonight, but it may assist me if you would iterate as to why exactly you are voting Falcon?

Let me lay this out for you:

It started with falcon pushing me for weak reasoning. This isn’t telling in and of itself, villagers makes mistakes.

But as Falcon starting building a case on me, which I obviously know is not true, Flacon’s reasoning got worse; to the point that they were making things up.

Specifically I said I was looking to see who was doing what I expected wolves to do. Falcon called that a “Wolfy mindset”.

This was a massive slip. Because no. Trying to figure out what wolves will do, and looking to see who does that isn’t Wolf itself, it’s village.

I pressed Falcon on this point. And Falcon immediately tried to change the subject and said they were going to focus on other things.

I pressed Falcon again, and Falcon used an argument to answer the question that simultaneously didn’t answer the question, but tried to shade me for something else.

This is a wolf. A villager doesn’t play this way. I could tell when I was pressing Falcon, he was wriggling. Trying to talk his way out of it. I’ve pressed wolves and I’ve pressed villagers. This is the former.

@Lawpy since you’re just joining in I encourage you to read this and join me here. Pls.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:04 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:03 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:53 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:45 pm I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.
Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.
How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei
These are my general feels on everyone
Spoiler: show
Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

But also as for the rest of it, you know me though. My reads change like the wind sometimes

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:04 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:03 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:53 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:45 pm I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.
Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.
How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei
These are my general feels on everyone
Spoiler: show
Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

I just don’t feel great about Nate’s contributions so far. I’m not ready to vote there per se. (I’m not moving my vote regardless) but on the whole I haven’t felt great about him this game.

The counter argument is that I’ve felt not great about village Nate before too so it’s not like he’s lock scum.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:53 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:45 pm I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.
Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.
How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:52 pm I'm having a hard time reading genny when she hasn't really been here. Mayo I find hard to read generally.
I think overall Miranda has been noobier vs wolfy but she hasn't been overtly town either.
But also I'm kinda just talking out of my ass. I really don't know.

No I think all of that is fair

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:45 pm I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:58 pm
miranda920 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:59 pm
miranda920 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:22 pm @miranda920 If you had to vote for somebody this instant, who would it be and why?
Hmmm, see I don’t feel like I have enough to really put down a vote I’m confident in

If I’m on the spot, I’d say Santy is suspiciously absent and that warrants some investigating
Do I feel confident in that? No, but that’s where I’m at
Why is santy’s absence suspicious? You and others have commented that they would usually be highly involved regardless of alignment.
Exactly, it’s weird that he’s absent
It’s completely out of character
Is it alignment-indicative for santy to be absent?

Not at all. Santy loves wolfing. He lives for it. Pregnant Woman Emoji is his Mona Lisa.

So if anything him being absent leans village. But it’s 100% NAI.

Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:59 pm For clarity’s sake, I think the first part about being “easy to read” was meant to be a joke.

I guess it wasn’t a joke.

For clarity’s sake, I think the first part about being “easy to read” was meant to be a joke.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:26 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:52 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:43 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:40 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:15 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm

Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?
I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.
tbqh I'd be more down for this if the way you were pushing it didn't feel so off.

I know what you think of his initial push on you and those early interactions. Talk to me about the 2nd half of the day and EOD. How has your read developed?
Yeet me tomorrow, if I'm wrong.

I said thunderdome us and I mean it. Falcon is a wolf.
Can you sell me on your falcon read? I went through his ISO, and even did some comparison with Game of Champions where he was town.

He does seem to ask more questions here, whereas he spent more time in that game offering his specific takes. He is still doing that to some extent here, but his spending time asking questions without much followup is what gives me the most pause.

But falcon is a tough player to read and is mischopped often, so I often ignore my own read on him early in the game for that reason.

I thought I was a fairly easy player to read, whatchoo talkin' 'bout?

You're hedging my slot here pretty hard, and deferring to another to inform your read, tho you've got plenty of playing experience with me such that you should certainly be able to make your own. Why?
You're mischopped all the time, how does that make you an easy read?

Boom. The lies keep piling up.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:22 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:14 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:23 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:00 pm

GTH wolf

But also I don't won't to chop him today for :hand_wave: irl stuff or something
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
I mean, sure... you could vote there. It's...an option.

But can I interest you in a Falcon today?
Why?
Tunneled town tunneling another town for bad tunnely reasons
Neon pls. Falcon is howling
I disagree falcon is falconing

What part of Falcon’s role in my interaction with him do you find Falcon to be village? Because having had that argument with home, I can assure you he’s not. No villager engages the way Falcon engaged with me. It’s harder to see when you’re not in the thick of the debate, but if you’d been in my shoes and gotten the answers I did from Falcon, or lack there of, you’d 100% be on this vote.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:23 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:00 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:58 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:57 pm

Don't make me say the words again.

Quick GTH what is your read on Creature
GTH wolf

But also I don't won't to chop him today for :hand_wave: irl stuff or something
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
I mean, sure... you could vote there. It's...an option.

But can I interest you in a Falcon today?
Why?
Tunneled town tunneling another town for bad tunnely reasons

Neon pls. Falcon is howling

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:47 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:16 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:07 pm Like, I feel like that's a lot of data that we have to re-eval beyond just what the wagons were at a point when we didn't have that info
You clearly must think Creature is town, you questioned Creature voters yesterday too.

What are you seeing that I am not?
No, I have zero read on Creature either way. I just find Sloonei's justification for voting there completely uninspired.
The vote I cast 1 hour into a 48 hour phase is not final.

I mean sure, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:19 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:06 am I feel like there's a post restriction here.

The struggle with chaotic events: A protocol for drawing accurate conclusions based on expanding datasets

:Care:

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:00 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:58 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:57 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:55 pm You really think I forget about a game this hard when a partner would be leading huh

Don't make me say the words again.

Quick GTH what is your read on Creature
GTH wolf

But also I don't won't to chop him today for :hand_wave: irl stuff or something
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I mean, sure... you could vote there. It's...an option.

But can I interest you in a Falcon today?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:08 pm Idk how NKA is viewed here but Sporty wasn't really being widely TR'd outside of dya and I think mayo at the point when she died. She was the third wagon

I have a theory about the sporty kill but I don't want to say. I bet you can guess what it is. Waiting to see if I'm right.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:07 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:04 pm I’ll start the day with a vote on [VOTE: creature] aubergine. I have nothing nee to report. Creature was just the second option at the end of the day yesterday.
Creature was the second option at the end of the day yesterday, yes. You aren't interested in looking at anyone else given Scotty flipped town and we have AM, Sporty, pyxxy all confirmed town too?
How do we have three confirmed town on day 2?

Because they died and flipped town

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:00 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:57 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:56 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:40 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:15 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm

Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?
I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.
tbqh I'd be more down for this if the way you were pushing it didn't feel so off.

I know what you think of his initial push on you and those early interactions. Talk to me about the 2nd half of the day and EOD. How has your read developed?
Nahhhh. Zenge is lock town, or at least lock not AM's killer. He's never participating in that NK imo.
Why not
She dies early very often and I'm morally opposed to it
I see

I assume it's to the point you would like veto a kill, them?

Yeah. It's a wide field, with a lot of potential options of people to kill. I would have advocated heavily for other options.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:56 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:40 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:15 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm Alright. Are we done puttering around like a unicycle with a flat tire?

Who's ready to YEET FALCON?

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?
I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.
tbqh I'd be more down for this if the way you were pushing it didn't feel so off.

I know what you think of his initial push on you and those early interactions. Talk to me about the 2nd half of the day and EOD. How has your read developed?
Nahhhh. Zenge is lock town, or at least lock not AM's killer. He's never participating in that NK imo.
Why not

She dies early very often and I'm morally opposed to it

Welcome @MacDougall

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:52 pm For now, [VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:40 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:15 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm Alright. Are we done puttering around like a unicycle with a flat tire?

Who's ready to YEET FALCON?

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?
I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.
tbqh I'd be more down for this if the way you were pushing it didn't feel so off.

I know what you think of his initial push on you and those early interactions. Talk to me about the 2nd half of the day and EOD. How has your read developed?

Yeet me tomorrow, if I'm wrong.

I said thunderdome us and I mean it. Falcon is a wolf.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:24 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:08 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:07 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm I think santy's entrance last EOD was pretty bad
I find it wild that he would totally forget about a game as either affiliation
as either affiliation Being key here. Let's stay focused. Seems like he legitimately got caught up with IRL stuff.
I know. I'm thinking it's totally NAI. Just odd for him

Oh i Know you know. It was more of a general sentiment for the thread.

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:16 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:15 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm Alright. Are we done puttering around like a unicycle with a flat tire?

Who's ready to YEET FALCON?

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?
I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.
sloonei?

Very possibly. I'd rather Flip Falcon first and explore the merits of that after though.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:14 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm Alright. Are we done puttering around like a unicycle with a flat tire?

Who's ready to YEET FALCON?

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
Are possible partners coming together for you, or is it all falcon to start with?

I think if Falcon flips the way I expect other people will need to answer for their crimes.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:07 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm I think santy's entrance last EOD was pretty bad
I find it wild that he would totally forget about a game as either affiliation

as either affiliation Being key here. Let's stay focused. Seems like he legitimately got caught up with IRL stuff.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:05 pm I think santy's entrance last EOD was pretty bad

Was it though? What specifically are you taking issue with?

Alright. Are we done puttering around like a unicycle with a flat tire?

Who's ready to YEET FALCON?

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:59 pm santy is dead

What?!

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:59 pm Santy can go too

No

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:56 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

It’s happening!!!!

FALCON YEET!
FALCON YEET!
FALCON YEET!

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:55 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:55 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm I forgot about this game, wild
Santy pls.

That’s not even skill issue at that point. That’s a level up.
I said 'After work I check up the game'

But then I get home and die and completely forget pls

:care:

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:54 pm Someone summarize me the cases on Scotty and Creature?

Without seeing anything I think its more likely that Creature is a hit because in my mind they tend to obtown more and have more votes from people of the same community

Can I interest you in a Falcon vote?

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm I forgot about this game, wild

Santy pls.

That’s not even skill issue at that point. That’s a level up.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:41 pm - Is Zenge always a high poster?

Almost never.

I think there are certain times in certain games where I do end up high posting. Like the end of Emoji’s or my last day in gGoats, for example.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:46 pm @Zenge you around? I want to know if Dr. Wiggly's falcon read affects your view at all

It doesn’t change anything for me, no.

Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:35 pm @Neon why do you like noble gases?

As a follow up to this why do you spell it with a Z instead of the Xenon?

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:00 pm
SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am I do actually think Sporty is being pretty weird and wouldn’t be a bad vote this game.
Ok bro

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:40 am If you’re village, you just undid any good reading you did in Hannibal lol
Meh, this reaction sits bad with me.
Zenge has hardcore wrongly tunneled me at least once before, so I'm not really interested in repeating the interactions I had with him there, especially since I like him irl.

It's emotionally taxing.

I’m not tunneling you. I was trying to have a conversation about the things I found concerning.

I’m still voting for Falcon. I think there’s a lot more reason to vote for Falcon than for Miranda. I encourage you and anyone else to join me.

Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:54 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:38 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:32 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:23 am I still don't think Miranda has done anything of note so I don't see why the pressure should dissipate. I liked how mighty handled me yesterday though.
I agree she hasn’t don’t anything of note, but that’s a two way street.
You think Sporty hasn't done anything?
I meant a two way street as in - If you’re saying Miranda should be yeeted because she hasn’t don’t anything noteworthy. Then it’s fair to say she shouldn’t be yeeted because she hasn’t done anything noteworthy, one way or the other.

We’re not in a state of the game where we should just be yeeting low hanging fruit for the lulz.

There are actual cases on people worth exploring and flipping those people.

If we flip Miranda, I’m telling you she’ll probably flip town, and then all the voters will say “well it was day one and it was a tone read”. There’s nothing of value in terms of information to be gained there beyond the 50/50 coin flip.

I’m saying we can do better than a 50/50 coin flip.
I don't subscribe to that. I'm more than happy to kill lowcontenters. LHF isn't AI, I say as a recovered LHF. I also never do it for the lulz. I'm not suggesting the entire playerlist needs to be on her, but I need to see some content that isn't just "scottie town for a memelist."

Yes, I’m familiar with your war on low posters.

I just think at least this cycle there’s better options that are more likely to bear fruit.

I miss @santygrass

Hope he’s okay.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:44 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:41 am
SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am I do actually think Sporty is being pretty weird and wouldn’t be a bad vote this game.
Ok bro
You’re being sketch. Going after what you know is low hanging fruit isn’t typically how you roll. You’ve made better pushes than this.
Okay, let’s back up for a second

“Going for low hanging fruit isn’t typically how you roll”

That argument implies I am making a selective choice to intentionally go for LHF.

Village!Sporty: doesn’t make sense if I’m a villager, because a villager goes for who they think is wolfy

Wolf!Sporty: you said yourself I don’t normally go for LHF… so why would that be different this game?

Neither circumstance makes sense with this argument.

You’re intentionally framing it in a way that’s not only disingenuous and not even remotely what I said.

So let me clarify what I said, so as not to have my words twisted.

When you’re village Sporty, you make stronger pushes than just voting for the lowest of the low hanging fruit, based on a tonal read.

This is a player whose posts have been lackluster certainly. But your tonal read is equally lackluster, considering all of the content posted by everyone else in the game.

I would expect you to have a better read on someone else. And even you yourself said so.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:30 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am So I find the argument that she’s lock wolf and the best yeet choice for today, a bad one.
She’s not lock wolf any more than anyone else is lock wolf right now

Implying that to you, this entire roster is a coin flip and you don’t actually have a strong read on anyone.

So voting for the established lowest of low hanging fruit, says a lot about your intentions this game.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:45 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:42 am And you got super weirdly defensive about it when I asked you a simple, neutral question about your vote. That’s weird, Sportponies.
Are you intentionally pretending you don’t know the definition of defensive?

I asked you why you were voting for Miranda and you freaked out and said I was being weird for daring to ask “why”?

That’s defensive.

And you got super weirdly defensive about it when I asked you a simple, neutral question about your vote. That’s weird, Sportponies.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:39 am I do actually think Sporty is being pretty weird and wouldn’t be a bad vote this game.
Ok bro

You’re being sketch. Going after what you know is low hanging fruit isn’t typically how you roll. You’ve made better pushes than this.

I do actually think Sporty is being pretty weird and wouldn’t be a bad vote this game.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:30 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am So I find the argument that she’s lock wolf and the best yeet choice for today, a bad one.
She’s not lock wolf any more than anyone else is lock wolf right now

Points to Falcon

Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:32 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:23 am I still don't think Miranda has done anything of note so I don't see why the pressure should dissipate. I liked how mighty handled me yesterday though.
I agree she hasn’t don’t anything of note, but that’s a two way street.
You think Sporty hasn't done anything?

I meant a two way street as in - If you’re saying Miranda should be yeeted because she hasn’t don’t anything noteworthy. Then it’s fair to say she shouldn’t be yeeted because she hasn’t done anything noteworthy, one way or the other.

We’re not in a state of the game where we should just be yeeting low hanging fruit for the lulz.

There are actual cases on people worth exploring and flipping those people.

If we flip Miranda, I’m telling you she’ll probably flip town, and then all the voters will say “well it was day one and it was a tone read”. There’s nothing of value in terms of information to be gained there beyond the 50/50 coin flip.

I’m saying we can do better than a 50/50 coin flip.

So I find the argument that she’s lock wolf and the best yeet choice for today, a bad one.

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