The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 7:03 pm camilla / spf / kate

lemon / neon

dennis

pyxxy

rest

sixtystrings
psv

Ah.
Why are dennis and pyxxy so (relatively) high for you?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 2:25 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 12:10 am Ted's obstinance on PSV is towny to an extent.

Maybe I'd just start out tomorrow with Falcon/Six, tbh.
I like reading your thinking. Please be aware that you've got good odds to be the nk if you keep solving. So! Keep on vibing but if you could maybe make a summary post of where your thoughts are at near EON, that would be super sweet <3

This post feels... weird

Frankly though, I do think you're likely to be town. I think you're wrong on me but I feel better about you having interacted. I think Dennis/pyxxy/six contain at least one wolf, maybe both.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:44 pm yea

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:35 am There's a really good chance I will forget to vote if I don't vote now tbh so
[VOTE: Tex ] aubergine
Because I think their content has been pretty lacking and go with the flow, along with the handwavey excuse of being a bad D1 player. Feels like trying to fly under the radar.
i was among the people who've posted the most amount of content, even tho i had low posts. "feels like trying to fly under the radar" when having that in mind is a big question mark

another thing is i've never said i was a bad d1 player, just that i was lazy, and despite that i posted a lot of thoughts, arguably more than 60% of the game.

this accusation is shallow for 4 hours til elimination and bad faith as it misrepresents my actions and what i've said in posts

Sigh.
What are you feeling about the rest of the thread? Who are you SRing, TRing, etc? I remember you saying something about being sus of sig and six and then I voted you and you OMGUS'd back into Tunneltown.

We're not allowed to vote, but my personal POE is Dennis, pyxxy, sig, six, and ted.
In order of choppability, I would say: six > pyxxy > Dennis > ted > sig.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:39 pm i find it very shallow, as for your reasons for having me as a wolf, but most of that was a grand misrepresentation too

I do not understand this post. Can you clarify what you're talking about?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:37 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.
this, is what you said

Yes, and both are reflective of threadstate at the time they were said. Because the opinions were voiced at different points in time. Seanzie said I was v when most people were sussing me, Zenon continued sussing me past the expiration date of when that was favorable.
Statement stands and still not how you're painting it.

@tedxtr
You said you looked at my syndicate town game, so I'll just provide one town game from SDN.
Town:
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/thread ... a.1478466/

Mafia:
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/thread ... d.1469043/
https://forums.studentdoctor.net/thread ... d.1470278/

I mean, I won't technically anymore because Seanzie is dead and also not town, but anyway.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 2:08 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:38 pm i normally wouldn't have even made that point as it could be a silly early interaction to chit chat esp given it's n0

but given her read on sean later on which doesn't make sense to me, i figured i'd type and hit enter anyway as the whole progression feels off to me

she's warping threadflow to give sean a villa read and neon too in a way that just doesn't make sense to me. and then her push on me doesn't really make a ton of sense either and it's for very shallow reasons fmpov, i just read it as bad faith, but i didn't care to debunk why it's bad just cuz i think it should be pretty obvious to anybody

"flying under the radar, voting me to give the feeling he's doing stuff and said he's a bad d1 player which could be his excuse" when i never said im a bad d1 player, just that i was lazy and i actually posted a lot of thoughts on other people. she's just interpreting a lot of things to fit her reads in a way that i can't believe is a villa making mistakes atp, judging that she got to sean villa based on a clear dichotomy and warping of threadflow to fit her reads. just too big of a coincidence
I understand what you're saying here, but if psv is bad and she's falsely trying clear seanzie AND Neon that would mean one wolf openly defended both of her teammates in one post. I find that aspect of the theory a little hard to swallow.
i didn't say she did do that, i actually think neon is a villager

what i think happened is that she wanted to put seanzie in the same bucket as a villager to clear him that way, except the reasoning just ended up not making any sense if you backtrack

you can't have 2 villa reads for them going against threadflow when those 2 people have completely opposite beliefs from each other

I can and I will, thanks.
What I actually said was I thought their explanations for why they thought the way they did made sense.

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:13 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 2:33 pm I'm still a bit unclear on when close actually is. 4 p.m. CST?
5pm eastern.

Alright, thanks.

Going by when the poll approximately closes

I'm still a bit unclear on when close actually is. 4 p.m. CST?

I'm having an obnoxious time pulling things up on SDN. It's fighting me. I have not forgotten.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:26 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?
this is another thing that people will maybe not get and it's def gonna be rambl-y for me, but c'est la vie

this pings me. i read her last game and when she asked questions, she was always strict to the point and when she asked a question, she wanted the raw answer.

but in here she is downplaying the seriousness of the question by tackling in the last one, almost as if she doesn't genuinely care to figure him out. if you take a look at her last game, all questions are legitimate and they get at something. the tackling of the taylor swift line is setting the dynamic to be friendly and ease up the seriousness of the first one, almost gives him a leeway not to even answer it

"how did you get to me wolf" is a perfectly fine question, but the tackling of the taylor swift line makes it so that sean shouldn't feel too much pressure in answering it and detracts from the desire to find out the answer to the former one. and idk why this would be the case from her PoV if she genuinely wanted to figure him out. why not make people sweat?

This is straight up incorrect. If you're portraying me as not goofy, then you didn't read enough, frankly.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:57 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:27 pm [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine
anyway my memory is that this vote that i made tied seanzie 3-3-3 between ted, pxy, and seanzie. i'm not sure if that memory is totally accurate but i am confident that my vote tied seanzie with the other wagons

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:32 pm I'm gonna move to seanzie.
^^and bearing that in mind, kate was the first person to switch over to seanzie and put him in the "lead", and i would probably give her the most credit for the seanzie elimination actually going through

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:32 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:36 pmVote: Sean

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:39 pm Oh cool we're jumping seanzie now

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:45 pm Seanzies iso inspired precisely 0 feelings inside me

I'd kill him [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine
^^she was followed shortly by camilia, neon, and dennis

in spite of my earlier reads, i actually think if there was a busser in this progression, it's more likely to be dennis than anyone. this is because if any of seanzie's partners were present in the thread at the time, it makes sense to me that they would want to jump on his wagon to get some last minute towncred, and dennissaying that he's "going to ISO seanzie" and then jumping on him 6 minutes later feels a bit abrupt and like he is forcing himself to find an excuse to vote for seanzie instead of coming to suspect him organically

it's actually kind of hard to understand why @Dennis felt the need to jump on the seanzie wagon at all, since he didn't seem to have any clear thoughts about him ,and since he was already gonna die anyway without the vote. i would like to hear dennis talk about that more

Exactly why I expressed discomfort clearing Dennis.

Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 12:10 am Ted's obstinance on PSV is towny to an extent.

Maybe I'd just start out tomorrow with Falcon/Six, tbh.

I would think this had I not already stated I was TRing people who tunneled me/went against consensus on me. So any savvy wolf noticing that could adapt their behavior.

Okay @tedxtr would you like to have some fun? Case me. Come up with reasons for me being wolfy besides just repeating it multiple times. Have fun. I've only played once on the syndicate before, but that game just ended and can be used as a reference (I was town). Otherwise I have mafia and town games from SDN.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:50 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:39 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:31 pm i've read sean's iso, and psv is not clear at all
What's your fixation with trying to push me, ted? There are legitimate concerns with sig/six, falcon (still disagree but not enough substance to really fight it) and Dennis, yet you insist on pooping and then throwing it at me.
big yikes

there are legitimate concerns with ~0 posters?

also, neon, have we ever played before?

Yes, ted. There are legitimate concerns with people who have popped in, said something insanely wolfy, jumped on the top wagon, and ghosted.
And someone who has said nothing.

There is villagey tunneling and then there is pushing in bad faith.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:31 pm i've read sean's iso, and psv is not clear at all

What's your fixation with trying to push me, ted? There are legitimate concerns with sig/six, falcon (still disagree but not enough substance to really fight it) and Dennis, yet you insist on pooping and then throwing it at me.

All I saw was him wagon hopping and then saying he'd vote Seanzie once it was clear Seanzie was going down. Hmm.

Idk why Dennis is being cleared from that progression frankly

Oh damn. Uhhhhh alright

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:10 pm Yeah I really have no idea who to vote, but I don't think Ted is a hit

[VOTE: psv] aubergine I guess, got those ickies I was talking about before

No

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:01 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:58 am Anyway I do tend to fall victim to highposter bias easily in general, but my POE is currently Kate, sig, six, and ted.
You're just sussing based on low posts? Bc it seems six and sig have 4 posts between them.

Not solely. But I stated I find discussion between current players to feel t/t and that makes me think maf are laying low.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:56 pm I'm going to start with the 2 voting me. You seem civ and solving.

Psv doesn't know me, so her vote could simply be misplaced (combined with my law activity).

Seanzie concerns me the most, as he knows my play at least a bit better than camilla and psv and I'm surprised he would put a vote on me this early. I'm gonna start by looking at his iso.

I'm voting Ted? Unless I clicked the wrong option in the poll, which is possible

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 1:48 pm Oh 3 of you are voting me?? That's very bad guys, very bad. Sorry I'm late to the game but I'm civ.

I'm gonna start a (vanilla) town streaking like seanzie.

Isn't this game mountainous?

Anyway I do tend to fall victim to highposter bias easily in general, but my POE is currently Kate, sig, six, and ted.

I think it's pretty difficult to solve when half of the players are not being active/posting much content. That said, I do get the vibe scum are mainly lowposters hoping town will start eating its own tail.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:46 am i changed my mind, i’m likely not moving

This OMGUS does not make me feel better about your slot.

Oops, Ted, not Tex. My state infiltrating my brain again.
I am also fine with elimming Kate.

There's a really good chance I will forget to vote if I don't vote now tbh so
[VOTE: Tex ] aubergine
Because I think their content has been pretty lacking and go with the flow, along with the handwavey excuse of being a bad D1 player. Feels like trying to fly under the radar.

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:23 pm @potentialsheltervet

Vote someone?

In due time

Kate is either trying to pocket me or become my mother
I am very open to one

I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about

it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate

Concur. Obviously very early and no one has flipped but I think discussion has felt v/v. I poked lemonfairy and she felt like a lemonfairy without fur.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:26 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:08 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
Tell me more.

Tell me more, tell me more
Lemonfairy's a wolf
Tell me more, tell me more
...nothing here rhymes with wolf

Etc etc etc
...those summer nights

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:59 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:58 pm from what I can tell there's not a hammer so uh I think I'll just self-vote as a makeshift unvote :/
lol welcome to being a leading wagon PSV

I'm not unfamiliar with this position.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 2:00 pm Camilla - idk
Dennis - it's dennis
falcon - posting a lot again, sus
Kate - maybe this is the game where I try to learn to read Kate?
Lemonfairy - hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wont get murderous so quickly this time around :3
Neon - it's Zenon
potentialsheltervet - sure
Pyxxy - me
Seanzie - fine
sig - eh
SixStrings - who?
staypositivefriend - favorable
tedxtr - meh

What the hell does any of this mean

Kate wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:59 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:17 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:14 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:18 pm But I also feel like several people have barely been here and are but ghosts skulking in the background. What do they think? What do they feel? I know not.
Hi there, I'm here now gonna read through the few pages.

Why are people voting you?

I talked him into this game, don't be rude syndicaters!
Who's him? Am I him? I'm her
As for voting me, Neon thinks I reacted scummily to Seanzie's reaction test.
Oh yes it's you. I'm so sorry!!!

Nah, no worries. I'll respond to basically anything said in a nice enough tone.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:04 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:47 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:45 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
I mean, Seanzie is TRing me and Neon is scumreading me so I'm not sure how you agree with both.
I rarely give townreads. You're fine, that's all I'll give.

Hey, I'll take "fine".

Crawl off to die in secret under a bed somewhere like an old, sick cat.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:28 pm OK, so mental note: don't die in front of Kate when she's hungry

Ideally don't die in front of anyone?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:17 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:12 pm I think I feel fine about falcon, Neon, and Seanzie thus far.
why falcon?

He seems chill in a town way.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:14 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:18 pm But I also feel like several people have barely been here and are but ghosts skulking in the background. What do they think? What do they feel? I know not.
Hi there, I'm here now gonna read through the few pages.

Why are people voting you?

I talked him into this game, don't be rude syndicaters!

Who's him? Am I him? I'm her
As for voting me, Neon thinks I reacted scummily to Seanzie's reaction test.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:12 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
He's okayyyyyyy.

Are you going to eat your son?

???

I think I feel fine about falcon, Neon, and Seanzie thus far.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:08 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:03 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: psv ] aubergine

nothing personal
Whoa

Kinda sounds personal
Hi. Why are you sheeping neon?

Neon is supremely town Neon.

There are a few signs I've learned to look for...like, she might be fakin' it? But nah

Do you think her being towny means she is automatically correct?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:03 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: psv ] aubergine

nothing personal
Whoa

Kinda sounds personal

Hi. Why are you sheeping neon?

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